just listened to a boot from one of the shows with JSS

by **Voyager** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 4:45 am

conversationpc wrote:
Voyager wrote:Journey needs Hugo.

...like another hole in the ass.

They need your opinion like another hole in their ass too.

by **Eric** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 4:47 am

[quote="Voyager"]Journey needs Hugo.

THAT, would be a huge joke. A HUGO joke if you will!

by **NealIsGod** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 4:47 am

Voyager wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Voyager wrote:Journey needs Hugo.

...like another hole in the ass.

They need your opinion like another hole in their ass too.

His is more accurate than yours.

by **conversationpc** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 4:49 am

NealIsGod wrote:
Voyager wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Voyager wrote:Journey needs Hugo.

...like another hole in the ass.

They need your opinion like another hole in their ass too.

His is more accurate than yours.

Thank you, sir.

by **Voyager** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 4:54 am

Journey doesn't need any of our opinions. But if you start dissing mine, and I start dissing yours, it just degrades the forum.

Hugo is a better candidate as a Steve Perry replacement that Augeri or JSS are in my opinion. Hugo's live videos sound 10 times better than the JSS bootlegs. Plus, he looks almost identical to Steve Perry. If Journey wants someone to sing the Steve Perry songs, then they should try to find someone who looks and sounds like Perry - Hugo being the most ideal candidate. Otherwise they should come up with new music and skip the Perry stuff entirely.

As far as Journey needing Hugo "like another hole in the ass", the same could be said about Augeri and JSS. It's all a matter of opinion, and forums like this are full of nothing but opinions.

by **Lula** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 4:55 am

No Hugo.... too weird. I'm on board with Jeff as frontman. I'll be catching some shows in a few weeks, I expect I'll enjoy the performances very much.

by **Voyager** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 4:57 am

NealIsGod wrote:His is more accurate than yours.

According to who? His forum buddy?

:roll:

by **conversationpc** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 4:59 am

Voyager wrote:Hugo is a better candidate as a Steve Perry replacement that Augeri or JSS are in my opinion. Hugo's live videos sound 10 times better than the JSS bootlegs. Plus, he looks almost identical to Steve Perry. If Journey wants someone to sing the Steve Perry songs, then they should try to find someone who looks and sounds like Perry - Hugo being the most ideal candidate. Otherwise they should come up with new music and skip the Perry stuff entirely.

Hugo is a great singer, no doubt about it. However, he would turn them into a karaoke/lounge act (if they haven't already become one...). The band doesn't want a doppelganger and neither do most of the fans.

by **NealIsGod** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 4:59 am

Voyager wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:His is more accurate than yours.

According to who? His forum buddy?

No, Neal Schon said it would be too "weird" having Hugo sing for the band. Most people in here agree.

Wasn't aware I was his forum buddy. Seems to know a lot more than you, though.

by **conversationpc** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 5:00 am

Voyager wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:His is more accurate than yours.

According to who? His forum buddy?

Forum buddy? I haven't been posting in this forum long enough to have any "buddies".

by **Eric** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 5:01 am

They don't need a Steve Perry replacement.

I mean, imagine saying...."We can't get Perry but we have a look-alike that sounds like him, but is like half as good."

JSS represents a new beginning....

by **Lula** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 5:01 am

Neal Schon said it and so did Lula!! :lol:

by **conversationpc** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 5:02 am

Eric wrote:I mean, imagine saying...."We can't get Perry but we have a look-alike that sounds like him, but is like half as good."

by **Voyager** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 5:02 am

Okay, so I've been outvoted. I can agree to disagree.

Here's my take on this issue:

Augeri replaces Perry = Soundalike with no new hits but Journey able to tour & drive the crowd into a frenzy when Open Arms kicks in.

JSS replaces Augeri = Good frontman, but doesn't look or sound like Steve Perry.

Hugo replaces JSS = Looks and sounds like Steve Perry, which gives the Journey fans exactly what they are looking for in a Steve Perry replacement.

All it takes is a little logic. If you're gonna replace Elvis with an impersonator to front Elvis' old band, common sense would tell you to get someone who looks and sounds like him.

by **conversationpc** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 5:05 am

Voyager wrote:Hugo replaces JSS = Hugo looks and sounds like Steve Perry, which gives the Journey fans exactly what they are looking for in a Steve Perry replacement.

Not going to happen.

The day they do that is the day they finally lose ALL respect anyone has for them (which ain't much at this point).

by **Lula** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 5:10 am

No one will ever be able to do Perry's vocals as Perry did them. Perry himself probably can't duplicate his phenominal voice of the 70s and 80s. No need to sound like a cd from the 80s at a live show. Live is just that- LIVE, mistakes and all.... remember these are human beings not gods (sorry NIG)

. Hugo does not have his own personality to front. Jeff is his own- he's got his style, presence, and sound that works. No need to be a Perry clone. I don't consider Augeri a clone- I never saw Perry in his stage performance. Whatever.... just passing time before a meeting :lol:

by **Voyager** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 5:25 am

Lula wrote:Live is just that- LIVE, mistakes and all... remember these are human beings not gods (sorry NIG)

Yeah NIG, maybe you should have live bands in your bar - then you would understand.

by **Voyager** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 5:36 am

Let's all head out to NIG's and have a few swigs!

by **junky** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 5:43 am

Voyager wrote:
Lula wrote:Live is just that- LIVE, mistakes and all... remember these are human beings not gods (sorry NIG)

Yeah NIG, maybe you should have live bands in your bar - then you would understand.

Looks like the place I saw Hugo and Evolution at last year.

by **FormerJrnyFan** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:04 am

Eric wrote:... JSS represents a new beginning...

Change is good.

by **NealIsGod** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:05 am

Damn, now everyone will be asking me for free drinks... :twisted:

by **Voyager** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:07 am

NealIsGod wrote:Damn, now everyone will be asking me for free drinks...

Your secret's out of the bag dude.

Hey everyone - NIG owns his own bar. Drinks are on the house for all forum members!

by **NealIsGod** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:08 am

Voyager wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:Damn, now everyone will be asking me for free drinks...

Your secret's out of the bag dude.

Hey everyone - NIG owns his own bar. Drinks are on the house!

Sorry, Voyager, Loons pay double. :twisted:

by **Voyager** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:10 am

NealIsGod wrote:Sorry, Voyager, Loons pay double.

LOL! And trolls pay triple. Better get your wallet out.

by **yulog** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:17 am

The boot i heard was from Andrews mr x (georgia july 17th)and vocally it was very clear, hardly any crowd interference, Everything i heard before that was horribly riddled with crowd interference and i couldnt get a clear picture of how it sounded i would love to hear another "GOOD" boot anybody please let me hear something better but honestly Neal is going to play the dirty dozen the rest of his playing days its what the majority want to hear and my disappointment was not with little flaws or missed words it was the overall sound of his voice it changes everything for me and doesnt sound right at all i cant say what i want to because i know JSS can sing. the best way to say this is his voice is too deep and low for the sound of journey i hear a few points where he brings it high but it just doesnt fit i dont have a problem with change i had no trouble when Augeri came in but he fit pretty well into the mix. its a sad state of affairs for me if this is the permanent direction of the band .

by **NealIsGod** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:37 am

Voyager wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:Sorry, Voyager, Loons pay double.

LOL! And trolls pay triple. Better get your wallet out.

You do know what a troll is, don't you?

by **jrnyman28** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:40 am

Voyager wrote:Here are the offical record sales as of may 2004 according to Van Halen's offical site:

But what we need to know is what DLR-era record sales were in 1985 before Sammy came in.

by **Rockindeano** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:40 am

Nunnayerbiz Ness wrote: The rave/amazing reviews began pretty much just after that, start with the review section on the Journey site alone for starters, see what I'm talking about.

Yeah, those are unbiased reviews to be sure :roll:

Don't you know you cannot, I repeat cannot post the truth over there.

Jeff is the new singer, but I think he is Earth, and Journey is water, and together they make mud. Fucking awful.

My kids want to go to the Irvine show. I don't. However, just thinking of seeing the herd of Holmsteins and Frank throwing Pizzas and mowing Burgers is worth the ticket price. I am going to take about 500 pics of that guy. He is amazing.

by **Nunnayerbiz Ness** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:41 am

[quote="yulog"]The boot i heard was from Andrews mr x (georgia july 17th)and vocally it was very clear, hardly any crowd interference, Everything i heard before that was horribly riddled with crowd interference and i couldnt get a clear picture of how it sounded i would love to hear another "GOOD" boot anybody please let me hear something better but honestly Neal is going to play the dirty dozen the rest of his playing days its what the majority want to hear and my disappointment was not with little flaws or missed words it was the overall sound of his voice it changes everything for me and doesnt sound right at all i cant say what i want to because i know JSS can sing. the best way to say this is his voice is too deep and low for the sound of journey i hear a few points where he brings it high but it just doesnt fit i dont have a problem with change i had no trouble when Augeri came in but he fit pretty well into the mix. its a sad state of affairs for me if this is the permanent direction of the band .[/quote]

From what I saw, Ross & Jon were playing the dirty dozen too....hell, even Deen joined in!! Why the hell do you blame Neal for making this choice? Are there no other 'voices' in this band? Management....'general fan's picks....seems Neal gets the brunt of shit for everything Journey, especially when you all don't like something going on in the band. Have you not read other threads about this subject? A package tour like this is forcing BOTH bands to stick to familiarity, why would you want a SINGLE person to head to the beer tents at any part of the show? I wouldn't, I'd give em what they want till the cows came home, especially risking they wouldn't come back next year cuz all I did was play diehard's album cuts.

Seems these threads easily stray from the original ideas & theories/opinions take over like they're factual or directly from the band. We have no idea what's going on in their camp, should we even care past the point of we love the music, the music is being brought to us with the 'postman mentality...through rain, sleet or snow'? I for one am happy to see Styx still going even though JY is the only ORIGINAL member (outside of the 2-3 song appearances by Chuck Panozzo), still happy to rock out to Foreigner even though Lou Gramm was the MAN, & will continue to support Journey bringing it every year until they drop...regardless of who is fronting. You want Perry & Augeri? Thank God for CD's & DVD's, stay home & watch to your hearts content. I mean this with respect not as a bag to anyone.

by **Nunnayerbiz Ness** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:45 am

[quote="Rockn'deano"][quote="Nunnayerbiz Ness"] The rave/amazing reviews began pretty much just after that, start with the review section on the Journey site alone for starters, see what I'm talking about.
[/quote]

Yeah, those are unbiased reviews to be sure :roll: Don't you know you cannot, I repeat cannot post the truth over there.

Jeff is the new singer, but I think he is Earth, and Journey is water, and together they make mud. Fucking awful.

My kids want to go to the Irvine show. I don't. However, just thinking of seeing the herd of Holmsteins and Frank throwing Pizzas and mowing Burgers is worth the ticket price. I am going to take about 500 pics of that guy. He is amazing.[/quote]

Strange Deano, I thought you were into a JSS Journey...guess I was wrong! Who would you think is right for them, obviously we're just talking singers known, there might just be someone undiscovered out there just as qualified.

MR

just listened to a boot from one of the shows with JSS

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