Has JOURNEY Jumped The Shark OR are Happier Days Ahead?

[Carlitto H@kk]

Sounds like it's from the UK? Because it's goofy?

Here's a few of them:

Misunderstood British Phrases:

Accumulator (Car battery)
Afters (Dessert )
Aggro (Deliberate troublemaking)
Air screw (Propeller)
Alsatian (German shepherd)
Aluminium Aluminum
Antenatal (Prenatal)
Argy-bargy (Heated argument)
Back of beyond (Middle of nowhere)
Bap Hamburger bun (regional)
Biscuit (Cookie)
Blotto (Drunk)
Bobby (Policeman)
Bollocks (Testicles)
Bum (Buttocks)
Bun in the oven (Pregnant)
Butty (Sandwich)
Cooker (Oven)

These phrases sound goofy to Americans. There are a lot more of them here:

http://members.tripod.com/~outsidetl/la ... tish1.html

Back in the early 90s, while deployed to Saudi Arabia, I had Thanksgiving dinner at the home of a british gentleman that worked for the Oil company ARAMPCO. Anyway, there were 2 middle-aged female brits there as well and they were really hitting the wine. About half-way thru dinner, the female next to me asked,
"Have you ever had Spotted Dick?"

I spit food out all over the place...

[SteveForever]

Sounds like it's from the UK? Because it's goofy?

Here's a few of them:

Misunderstood British Phrases:

Accumulator (Car battery)
Afters (Dessert )
Aggro (Deliberate troublemaking)
Air screw (Propeller)
Alsatian (German shepherd)
Aluminium Aluminum
Antenatal (Prenatal)
Argy-bargy (Heated argument)
Back of beyond (Middle of nowhere)
Bap Hamburger bun (regional)
Biscuit (Cookie)
Blotto (Drunk)
Bobby (Policeman)
Bollocks (Testicles)
Bum (Buttocks)
Bun in the oven (Pregnant)
Butty (Sandwich)
Cooker (Oven)

These phrases sound goofy to Americans. There are a lot more of them here:

http://members.tripod.com/~outsidetl/la ... tish1.html

Back in the early 90s, while deployed to Saudi Arabia, I had Thanksgiving dinner at the home of a british gentleman that worked for the Oil company ARAMPCO. Anyway, there were 2 middle-aged female brits there as well and they were really hitting the wine. About half-way thru dinner, the female next to me asked,
"Have you ever had Spotted Dick?"
I spit food out all over the place...

Well...have you?

[Carlitto H@kk]

Sounds like it's from the UK? Because it's goofy?

Here's a few of them:

Misunderstood British Phrases:

Accumulator (Car battery)
Afters (Dessert )
Aggro (Deliberate troublemaking)
Air screw (Propeller)
Alsatian (German shepherd)
Aluminium Aluminum
Antenatal (Prenatal)
Argy-bargy (Heated argument)
Back of beyond (Middle of nowhere)
Bap Hamburger bun (regional)
Biscuit (Cookie)
Blotto (Drunk)
Bobby (Policeman)
Bollocks (Testicles)
Bum (Buttocks)
Bun in the oven (Pregnant)
Butty (Sandwich)
Cooker (Oven)

These phrases sound goofy to Americans. There are a lot more of them here:

http://members.tripod.com/~outsidetl/la ... tish1.html

Back in the early 90s, while deployed to Saudi Arabia, I had Thanksgiving dinner at the home of a british gentleman that worked for the Oil company ARAMPCO. Anyway, there were 2 middle-aged female brits there as well and they were really hitting the wine. About half-way thru dinner, the female next to me asked,
"Have you ever had Spotted Dick?"
I spit food out all over the place...

Well...have you?

Nope, I have never tried Spotted Dick; the british food or otherwise If I remeber, it is somekind of bread-pudding desert??? A little help here from the Brits???

[Voyager]

"Have you ever had Spotted Dick?"

I think I had it once as a child when I caught the Chicken Pox, but it cleared up pretty quickly. In the USA they call this "Dick Pox".

[Rantlers]

Damn if this thread didn't digress. The Fonz did jump over trash cans, by the way. That episode was certainly better than Fraugeri mimicking Steve Perry for the last eight years.

[Red13JoePa]

Damn if this thread didn't digress. The Fonz did jump over trash cans, by the way.

Yea, wannit oil drums?

[The_Noble_Cause]

So they're not even racing up the ramp? Are they even on the ramp? If not then WHERE the heck are they?

80's Nostalgia Purgatory. The place all good bands go to die.

And as I said in my Ugly Betty thread: nobody cares! Everyone's running around placing blame on band members, radio, the media, management, etc when it truly comes down to THE AUDIENCE.

JOURNEY is playing to the wrong audience. Your sig quoting SP is spot on! A change is needed: a new audience!

I don't think anything can make Journey relevant again.
I side with "ArrivalRules".
Be happy with the yearly tours and the occassional new album.
No shame in that.

[Matthew]

Sounds like it's from the UK? Because it's goofy?

Here's a few of them:

Misunderstood British Phrases:

Accumulator (Car battery)
Afters (Dessert )
Aggro (Deliberate troublemaking)
Air screw (Propeller)
Alsatian (German shepherd)
Aluminium Aluminum
Antenatal (Prenatal)
Argy-bargy (Heated argument)
Back of beyond (Middle of nowhere)
Bap Hamburger bun (regional)
Biscuit (Cookie)
Blotto (Drunk)
Bobby (Policeman)
Bollocks (Testicles)
Bum (Buttocks)
Bun in the oven (Pregnant)
Butty (Sandwich)
Cooker (Oven)

These phrases sound goofy to Americans. There are a lot more of them here:

http://members.tripod.com/~outsidetl/la ... tish1.html

Back in the early 90s, while deployed to Saudi Arabia, I had Thanksgiving dinner at the home of a british gentleman that worked for the Oil company ARAMPCO. Anyway, there were 2 middle-aged female brits there as well and they were really hitting the wine. About half-way thru dinner, the female next to me asked,
"Have you ever had Spotted Dick?"

I spit food out all over the place...

Maybe we are a bit goofy after all....

[lights1961]

Journey jumped the shark when they wrote Open Arms.

You got that shit right...

CUBBY!!!

Rick here---
aka pkrbkr from the other site years ago...

whats UP dude....too bad about the cubbies this year....My Twins are rocking!!
glad to see you in here!!


Rick

[Just Mindy]

Maybe we are a bit goofy after all....

No comment

[Wheels Of Fyre]

So they're not even racing up the ramp? Are they even on the ramp? If not then WHERE the heck are they?

80's Nostalgia Purgatory. The place all good bands go to die.

And as I said in my Ugly Betty thread: nobody cares! Everyone's running around placing blame on band members, radio, the media, management, etc when it truly comes down to THE AUDIENCE.

JOURNEY is playing to the wrong audience. Your sig quoting SP is spot on! A change is needed: a new audience!

I don't think anything can make Journey relevant again.
I side with "ArrivalRules".
Be happy with the yearly tours and the occassional new album.
No shame in that.

The shame is that that is complacent.

[cubby69]

Journey jumped the shark when they wrote Open Arms.

You got that shit right...

CUBBY!!!

Rick here---
aka pkrbkr from the other site years ago...

whats UP dude....too bad about the cubbies this year....My Twins are rocking!!
glad to see you in here!!


Rick

Rick, Hey bro, yeah I've been around, lurking mostly for quite awhile now. Good to see you too bro.

[Carlitto H@kk]

So they're not even racing up the ramp? Are they even on the ramp? If not then WHERE the heck are they?

80's Nostalgia Purgatory. The place all good bands go to die.

And as I said in my Ugly Betty thread: nobody cares! Everyone's running around placing blame on band members, radio, the media, management, etc when it truly comes down to THE AUDIENCE.

JOURNEY is playing to the wrong audience. Your sig quoting SP is spot on! A change is needed: a new audience!

I don't think anything can make Journey relevant again.
I side with "ArrivalRules".
Be happy with the yearly tours and the occassional new album.
No shame in that.

The shame is that that is complacent.

How is the band being complacent? I think their current Management and the state of the music biz in general has made Journey 'irrelevant' to this generation. They can tour and pump out 3 albums a year and it still won't make a difference unless the Big Corporate Machine pushes it. It's sad. 20-30 years ago, the schedule that Journey has maintained for the past 8 years would've made them SuperStars (and it did) but now they are looked on as a washed up nostalgia act by shit head critics and record execs and the public blindly follows along while listening to Paris-Fucking-Worthless-Tramp-Hilton on their iPods!!!

[lights1961]

Journey jumped the shark when they wrote Open Arms.

You got that shit right...

CUBBY!!!

Rick here---
aka pkrbkr from the other site years ago...

whats UP dude....too bad about the cubbies this year....My Twins are rocking!!
glad to see you in here!!


Rick

Rick, Hey bro, yeah I've been around, lurking mostly for quite awhile now. Good to see you too bro.

hope to see more your posts around here...

Rick

[Classic Rock]

How is the band being complacent? I think their current Management and the state of the music biz in general has made Journey 'irrelevant' to this generation. They can tour and pump out 3 albums a year and it still won't make a difference unless the Big Corporate Machine pushes it. It's sad. 20-30 years ago, the schedule that Journey has maintained for the past 8 years would've made them SuperStars (and it did) but now they are looked on as a washed up nostalgia act by shit head critics and record execs and the public blindly follows along while listening to Paris-Fucking-Worthless-Tramp-Hilton on their iPods!!!

Well said, I agree. Paris is a good example of the crap these record execs are pushing and promoting these days. From what I read she isn't going to tour to support the album, what the hell is up with that? Why would they back that kind of shit instead of Journey.

[jrnyman28]

How is the band being complacent? I think their current Management and the state of the music biz in general has made Journey 'irrelevant' to this generation. They can tour and pump out 3 albums a year and it still won't make a difference unless the Big Corporate Machine pushes it.

But 2 1/2 CDs in 8 years IS complacency.

[jrnyman28]

From what I read she isn't going to tour to support the album, what the hell is up with that?

What's up with that? Simple. She knows she can't sing live!! At least give her credit for recognizing her limitations. Sadly, as bad as Paris is, this is nothing different than Ricky Nelson, David and Shaun Cassidy, even William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy. There is a market for any celebrity with a substantial fan base. Don't blame the celebrity as much as the labels waving all that green in front of them....

[Carlitto H@kk]

Well said, I agree. Paris is a good example of the crap these record execs are pushing and promoting these days. From what I read she isn't going to tour to support the album, what the hell is up with that? Why would they back that kind of shit instead of Journey.

The reason she won't tour is because she's so freaking stupid that she would fuck up the lip-synching required! The song would be playing and she would just stand there and pose for the cameras in the audience and say "That's Hot" over and over again...

Hey, Memorex could sponsor the tour and it could be Paris, Lohan, Ashley Simpson and the one living dude from Milli Vanilli
Just put a cardboard cut-out of the guy that died, string it from the rafters so you can make it dance, roll the tape and, HOT DAMN, you got a monster tour of sexy (?), under-fed-looking tramps and a major renuion tour for a Grammy-winning, 90s Pop sensation!

[Classic Rock]

From what I read she isn't going to tour to support the album, what the hell is up with that?

What's up with that? Simple. She knows she can't sing live!! At least give her credit for recognizing her limitations. Sadly, as bad as Paris is, this is nothing different than Ricky Nelson, David and Shaun Cassidy, even William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy. There is a market for any celebrity with a substantial fan base. Don't blame the celebrity as much as the labels waving all that green in front of them....

Well I wouldn't expect a tour from her that wasn't lip-synced. That is a given for the pop stars that Carlitto mentioned above but she could at least do that. I think you are giving her way to much credit as the album should have never been released because the sales are not what the record company was expecting at all. I would give her credit for recognizing her limitations if she decided not to release the album at all. I agree with you on the money part though that had to be a big reason why she did it.

[fred_journeyman]

I don't think anything can make Journey relevant again.
I side with "ArrivalRules".
Be happy with the yearly tours and the occassional new album.
No shame in that.

Yep, I tend to agree with that.

[McNeil]

Sounds like it's from the UK? Because it's goofy?

Here are a few of them:

Misunderstood British Phrases:

Accumulator (Car battery)
Afters (Dessert )
Aggro (Deliberate troublemaking)
Air screw (Propeller)
Alsatian (German shepherd)
Aluminium Aluminum
Antenatal (Prenatal)
Argy-bargy (Heated argument)
Back of beyond (Middle of nowhere)
Bap (Hamburger bun)
Biscuit (Cookie)
Blotto (Drunk)
Bobby (Policeman)
Bollocks (Testicles)
Bum (Buttocks)
Bun in the oven (Pregnant)
Butty (Sandwich)
Cooker (Oven)

These phrases sound goofy to Americans. There are a lot more of them here:

http://members.tripod.com/~outsidetl/la ... tish1.html

Man... we never say "Accumulator" !!!!!! just...erm.. car battery

[cubby69]

Journey jumped the shark when they wrote Open Arms.

You got that shit right...

CUBBY!!!

Rick here---
aka pkrbkr from the other site years ago...

whats UP dude....too bad about the cubbies this year....My Twins are rocking!!
glad to see you in here!!


Rick

Rick, Hey bro, yeah I've been around, lurking mostly for quite awhile now. Good to see you too bro.

hope to see more your posts around here...

Rick

Don't worry about that, you will...

[Rockindeano]

Sounds like it's from the UK? Because it's goofy?

Here are a few of them:

Misunderstood British Phrases:

Accumulator (Car battery)
Afters (Dessert )
Aggro (Deliberate troublemaking)
Air screw (Propeller)
Alsatian (German shepherd)
Aluminium Aluminum
Antenatal (Prenatal)
Argy-bargy (Heated argument)
Back of beyond (Middle of nowhere)
Bap (Hamburger bun)
Biscuit (Cookie)
Blotto (Drunk)
Bobby (Policeman)
Bollocks (Testicles)
Bum (Buttocks)
Bun in the oven (Pregnant)
Butty (Sandwich)
Cooker (Oven)

These phrases sound goofy to Americans. There are a lot more of them here:

http://members.tripod.com/~outsidetl/la ... tish1.html

Jesus.

You forgot these gems:


Yellow/gray chicletts (Teeth)
Rancid smell (Euro Armpits)
Pussies (soccer players)
Windbag (Queen)

[yulog]

Carlitto wrote: "How is the band being complacent? I think their current Management and the state of the music biz in general has made Journey 'irrelevant' to this generation. They can tour and pump out 3 albums a year and it still won't make a difference unless the Big Corporate Machine pushes it. It's sad. 20-30 years ago, the schedule that Journey has maintained for the past 8 years would've made them SuperStars (and it did) but now they are looked on as a washed up nostalgia act by shit head critics and record execs and the public blindly follows along while listening to Paris-Fucking-Worthless-Tramp-Hilton on their iPods!!!
i told you to BE NICE you know she is an ARTEEST just check out her video especialy the bootleg ones

[Monker]

Anyway, the point being that Happy Days abandoned nostalgia and resulted to spectacle in order to maintain an audience. They didn't stay true to the endearing quality of the show and therefore jumped the shark.

How ironic...Journey has abandoned the spectacle of headlining top-notch concerts and creating adventurous albums for the nostalgia of touring with other 80's bands, and therefore has jumped the shark.

[Rockindeano]

Anyway, the point being that Happy Days abandoned nostalgia and resulted to spectacle in order to maintain an audience. They didn't stay true to the endearing quality of the show and therefore jumped the shark.

How ironic...Journey has abandoned the spectacle of headlining top-notch concerts and creating adventurous albums for the nostalgia of touring with other 80's bands, and therefore has jumped the shark.

Dude, with Augeri, they were VERY limited in what they couldn't do. ..Nothing much.

Let's see if they can and will, now. I believe you will be amazed.

[Monker]

Be happy with the yearly tours and the occassional new album.
No shame in that.

Gee, you sound like a Styx fan.

Where did Sadie go?

"Pay no attention to the band playing behind that balloon."

[Clasicrockldy]

Well I wouldn't expect a tour from her that wasn't lip-synced. That is a given for the pop stars that Carlitto mentioned above but she could at least do that. I think you are giving her way to much credit as the album should have never been released because the sales are not what the record company was expecting at all. I would give her credit for recognizing her limitations if she decided not to release the album at all. I agree with you on the money part though that had to be a big reason why she did it.

Maybe if the execs of the record company put out a companion dvd of Paris naked......... maybe the record would of sold more! LOLOL !

[Ms_M]

Well I wouldn't expect a tour from her that wasn't lip-synced. That is a given for the pop stars that Carlitto mentioned above but she could at least do that. I think you are giving her way to much credit as the album should have never been released because the sales are not what the record company was expecting at all. I would give her credit for recognizing her limitations if she decided not to release the album at all. I agree with you on the money part though that had to be a big reason why she did it.

Maybe if the execs of the record company put out a companion dvd of Paris naked......... maybe the record would of sold more! LOLOL !

That's one way to make a sale....

[Wheels Of Fyre]

Anyway, the point being that Happy Days abandoned nostalgia and resulted to spectacle in order to maintain an audience. They didn't stay true to the endearing quality of the show and therefore jumped the shark.

How ironic...Journey has abandoned the spectacle of headlining top-notch concerts and creating adventurous albums for the nostalgia of touring with other 80's bands, and therefore has jumped the shark.

As TNC's sig indicates: the very nature of JOURNEY is change and motion. JOURNEY has ALWAYS changed. They've changed personnel and they've changed musical directions many times over. They've abandoned this endearing quality and have reduced themselves to a glorified Sha Na Na act.

And the fans don't care. They're happy with the yearly greatest hits tours and the occasional album or EP.

If it were me I'd be looking for some new fans who actually gave a damn.