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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:55 am

No, he didn't tell me anything about this. Neal has a sharp tongue and doesn't need me to talk for him. He just doesn't waste his days on a message board like some of us.

Now, I see your attempt at diversion, Maria. Augeri was the problem, not Neal. Sure they all knew, but I honestly don't think some knew to what extent.

I can assure you it went down the way I said it did...there is no disputing it anylonger. I am giving the boys a pass. Why? Well, aside from knowing that this shit was going on, it wasn't Friga's fault Augeri couldn't sing. It sure as hell wasn't Deen's fault...Hell, Deen saved his wretched ass nightly. Deen should call him and ask for half of the money Augeri stole, disguised as a paycheck. It definitely isn't Neal Schon's fault. He plays his guitar (does his job) impeccably. I fail to see how this is anyone's fault but that phony fuck, Augeri. Please explain this Maria.
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Postby MCC620 » Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:58 am

I just think that they should all be held accountable for the supposed "tapegate" like you yourself suggested months ago. Would make them all phonies to have gone along with it don't you think? To give them a pass now is a little ridiculous.
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Postby wildone » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:00 am

MCC620 wrote:I just think that they should all be held accountable for the supposed "tapegate" like you yourself suggested months ago. Makes them all phonies to have gone along with it don't you think? To give them a pass now is a little ridiculous.
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:03 am

MCC620 wrote:I just think that they should all be held accountable for the supposed "tapegate" like you yourself suggested months ago. Makes them all phonies to have gone along with it don't you think? To give them a pass now is a little ridiculous.


I get what you're saying. Yeah, to an extent they are all wrong, however. As I said before, I gave these guys a total break because it was there 30th tour...They made some damned fine music in that time and I was content to not say anything. It was only when they started up AGAIN when I lost it.

After finding out Augeri himself was eager to continue this way, that's when all the "classy gentleman" and "nice guy" shit was a lie. He was more pissed than anyone....finding out he had to sing live. Imagine that? I can't believe mean old Neal Schon and Friga would demand that their singer actually sing! Terrible friends those guys are!
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Postby MCC620 » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:09 am

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MCC620 wrote:I just think that they should all be held accountable for the supposed "tapegate" like you yourself suggested months ago. Makes them all phonies to have gone along with it don't you think? To give them a pass now is a little ridiculous.


I get what you're saying. Yeah, to an extent they are all wrong, however. As I said before, I gave these guys a total break because it was there 30th tour...They made some damned fine music in that time and I was content to not say anything. It was only when they started up AGAIN when I lost it.

After finding out Augeri himself was eager to continue this way, that's when all the "classy gentleman" and "nice guy" shit was a lie. He was more pissed than anyone....finding out he had to sing live. Imagine that? I can't believe mean old neal Schon and friga would demand that their singer actually sing! Terrible friends those guys are!


Ahh but Deano.....that is where they become even more guilty in your scenario. They could have replaced Augeri before Europe. He was sick in January, perfect opportunity to replace him before the tour started. But you see, they all said "fuck it". This makes them all accountable. Just seems silly to forgive them now. And my beef is that you are trying to make Neal seem the most innocent and the one who had the wool pulled over his eyes. Being in this business since 14, he's learned quite a bit. Everyone, myself included, know Neal is, was and always will be Journey.
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Postby wildone » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:11 am

MCC620 wrote:
Rockin'Deano wrote:
MCC620 wrote:I just think that they should all be held accountable for the supposed "tapegate" like you yourself suggested months ago. Makes them all phonies to have gone along with it don't you think? To give them a pass now is a little ridiculous.


I get what you're saying. Yeah, to an extent they are all wrong, however. As I said before, I gave these guys a total break because it was there 30th tour...They made some damned fine music in that time and I was content to not say anything. It was only when they started up AGAIN when I lost it.

After finding out Augeri himself was eager to continue this way, that's when all the "classy gentleman" and "nice guy" shit was a lie. He was more pissed than anyone....finding out he had to sing live. Imagine that? I can't believe mean old neal Schon and friga would demand that their singer actually sing! Terrible friends those guys are!


Ahh but Deano.....that is where they become even more guilty in your scenario. They could have replaced Augeri before Europe. He was sick in January, perfect opportunity to replace him before the tour started. But you see, they all said "fuck it". This makes them all accountable. Just seems silly to forgive them now. And my beef is that you are trying to make Neal seem the most innocent and the one who had the wool pulled over his eyes. Being in this business since 14, he's learned quite a bit. Everyone, myself included, know Neal is, was and always will be Journey.
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Postby MCC620 » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:18 am

Perry might still be with the band if Neal didn't think Journey was all about him. Damn, I cannot believe I just said that. :shock:

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Postby heardonthestreet » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:20 am

To me, the hardest thing to get over is how the band had been presenting themselves these past few years. All the interviews about how much respect they had for each other for a change and what a family they all were. The integrity that Jon proclaimed and Augeri's white suits with his hands crossed at his chest. The nerve to fake it in Europe before the tour and the nerve to even start the tour with a disabled vocalist.

They all were in on this and they flat out cheated a lot of people and the worse part is letting one guy take the rap. So they are happy now. That makes all the deception alright?

Why in hell didn't they just put Augeri on sick leave before they began the deceit? Don't tell me that Augeri had any rights to continue on if his voice was impaired.

What makes me the most angry is all the crap that they claimed Perry did and they pull this. Yeah, the show must go on, even if they can talk you into sitting on a stool to sing or use tapes if your voice needs a rest.
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Postby wildone » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:20 am

MCC620 wrote:Perry might still be with the band if Neal didn't think Journey was all about him. Damn, I cannot believe I just said that. :shock:

I'm done now.
OMG YOU DIDN"T JUSY SAY THAT>>>>>>>>>>>>> :shock:
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Postby Rock Fn » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:25 am

MCC620 wrote:Perry might still be with the band if Neal didn't think Journey was all about him. Damn, I cannot believe I just said that. :shock:

I'm done now.



No way. All Perry has to do is say the word and he's in. Perry is more of an asshole than Neal. I mean that in a good way. You have to be an asshole to survive 30 yrs in the music buisness. :shock:
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:28 am

MCC620 wrote:Perry might still be with the band if Neal didn't think Journey was all about him. Damn, I cannot believe I just said that. :shock:

I'm done now.


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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:30 am

Rock Fn wrote:

No way. All Perry has to do is say the word and he's in. Perry is more of an asshole than Neal. I mean that in a good way. You have to be an asshole to survive 30 yrs in the music buisness. :shock:


You're clueless. That statement made by Neal no longer stands.
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Postby Rock Fn » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:38 am

Rockin'Deano wrote:
Rock Fn wrote:

No way. All Perry has to do is say the word and he's in. Perry is more of an asshole than Neal. I mean that in a good way. You have to be an asshole to survive 30 yrs in the music buisness. :shock:


You're clueless. That statement made by Neal no longer stands.


If Neal turned Perry away, I'd drop my nuts in boiling oil. No way. The bank would be too enormous to turn down.
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Postby heardonthestreet » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:47 am

Rock Fn wrote:
MCC620 wrote:Perry might still be with the band if Neal didn't think Journey was all about him. Damn, I cannot believe I just said that. :shock:

I'm done now.



No way. All Perry has to do is say the word and he's in. Perry is more of an asshole than Neal. I mean that in a good way. You have to be an asshole to survive 30 yrs in the music buisness. :shock:


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Perry did say the word! If they go on without him, "There's no going back."

Perry is the survivor so far. His sidemen are surviving by playing the hits from the Steve Perry Years. Herbie is a great fortune teller. He foretold all this a few years back and we doubted him.
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:54 am

heardonthestreet wrote:
Perry did say the word! If they go on without him, "There's no going back."


I'm so glad he said that. Thanks Steve.

Perry is the survivor so far. His sidemen are surviving by playing the hits from the Steve Perry Years. Herbie is a great fortune teller. He foretold all this a few years back and we doubted him.


Surviving from the couch is fucking tough! Boy that Steve perry is a tough cookie!

See HOTS, all you can do is tear down Neal and Friga. You can't prop up Perry because there is nothing left to prop up. You ever hear me say Perry sucked? If I did, you can cut my dick off and shove it in my mouth. However, if you can tell me with a straight honest face, that Perry is a better singer than Neal is a guitar player, I will lick your dirty meatditch.
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Postby Moon Beam » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:59 am

Shit Dean'o everywhere I go I'm seeing
you seething in one way or another.
Musta had one hell of a night last night :wink: :lol:
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:02 am

Moon Beam wrote:Shit Dean'o everywhere I go I'm seeing
you seething in one way or another.
Musta had one hell of a night last night :wink: :lol:


Pissed. My school lost to fucking USC by 6 and they should have won. I am hitting the bottle early today.
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Postby Moon Beam » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:05 am

Sorry to hear that Dean'o
I'll pound back a couple vodka shots
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:05 am

Moon Beam wrote:Sorry to hear that Dean'o
I'll pound back a couple vodka shots
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the goods.


Did you go drain his vein like I told you to?
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Postby Moon Beam » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:07 am

Like I said in an elswhere thread.
I never complain when he's awake
when it comes to matters of the snake.
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Postby heardonthestreet » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:17 am

Rockin'Deano wrote:
heardonthestreet wrote:
Perry did say the word! If they go on without him, "There's no going back."


I'm so glad he said that. Thanks Steve.

Perry is the survivor so far. His sidemen are surviving by playing the hits from the Steve Perry Years. Herbie is a great fortune teller. He foretold all this a few years back and we doubted him.


Surviving from the couch is fucking tough! Boy that Steve perry is a tough cookie!

See HOTS, all you can do is tear down Neal and Friga. You can't prop up Perry because there is nothing left to prop up. You ever hear me say Perry sucked? If I did, you can cut my dick off and shove it in my mouth. However, if you can tell me with a straight honest face, that Perry is a better singer than Neal is a guitar player, I will lick your dirty meatditch.


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_______________________++ :) =straight, honest face. Steve Perry is a better singer than Neal is a guitar player.

Pass on my winning's to your girl.

I wasn't being literal concerning Perry. He's enjoying the fruits of his labors and is making more money for the guys than the guys are making for him in more ways than one.

You call that frantic guitar playing from the clip that Ar is so crazy about good? Edge of the Blade was it? It's simply Neal and his convulsive guitar.
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:18 am

I can't even respond to you anylonger. You need to check yourself into a hospital. Seriously, you are so fucked up HOTS.
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Postby heardonthestreet » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:28 am

Go read the famous HH interview and you'll begin to see the light, Dean.
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Postby Chakra » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:30 am

Monker wrote:
jrnyman28 wrote:. And they could easily put out the empty offer, knowing that Steve would not be able to take them up on it...


Yeah, they could publicly say, "Yeah, Steve can join us to perform any time he wants to. It's an open invitation."

Then, when Augeri makes the call...They can tell him, "No, no, no, we meant Steve Perry."


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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:38 am

heardonthestreet wrote:Go read the famous HH interview and you'll begin to see the light, Dean.


Read it? I have it memorized. I specifically recall HH saying Perry is a motherfucker and if you were floating in the ocean on a raft, and he came by in his yacht, he wouldn't toss you a rope. Yeah, I read it.

Honey, you are the one who is in the dark. In fact, funny you mention it. Next year, we will be able to read more from Herbie.
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Postby Monker » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:45 am

MindFreak wrote:Neal, and the rest of the band, will only tell you "what they want you to believe". It doesn't necessarily mean it's the truth.
I hear he's been telling that story to lot's of people..... NOT his idea, had NO IDEA it was happening. :roll:


Exactly...It all sounds like a bunch of made up propaganda to keep the 'band' looking OK, and dump all the blame on Augeri.

If Neal didn't know about this, if it happened, then he is pretty damn naive and stupid.
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Postby Monker » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:47 am

JourneyRox wrote:Well we'll all soon hear an announcement methinks & then I guess Augeri's chronic throat infection will have become permanent. Will u believe then, Monker?


Not everything that Dean says, absolutely not. Which version of his tory am I to believe?

Or are u just sourgrapes because someone other than u broke this news?


Why should I care about that?
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Postby Monker » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:48 am

Rockin'Deano wrote:I find it amusing that the weak link, your guy Augeri, was the reason tapes had to be used, and you try to turn things on Neal. Yeah, that's it, blame Neal for Augeri's lack of ability to do his job. Blame Neal for everything.


If all of the various accusations you made were true, then it's not just Neal, or just Augeri, it's the entire band at fault...THAT is something YOU don't want to face.
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Postby Monker » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:50 am

MCC620 wrote:If it was going down the way you say...then THE ENTIRE BAND KNEW! You are trying to give Neal and the boys a pass now.....a couple of months ago you wanted Neal and Jon burned at the stake too. You can't make comments about this being Neal's band and Neal being Journey and want anyone to believe he knew nothing. I did notice you have changed your comment to be, it wasn't his idea. Did he tell you to say that on his behalf too?


Exactly. Whoever is making this story up now is doing it for PR and propaganda.
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Postby Monker » Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:53 am

Rockin'Deano wrote:No, he didn't tell me anything about this. Neal has a sharp tongue and doesn't need me to talk for him. He just doesn't waste his days on a message board like some of us.


YOU JUST SAID, "I can speak for Neal on this..." Can you, or can't you?

Now, I see your attempt at diversion, Maria. Augeri was the problem, not Neal. Sure they all knew, but I honestly don't think some knew to what extent.


If they 'all knew', they were ALL at fault, and it was a fundamental problem with the ENTIRE BAND. THAT is what needs fixed, not just who is singing lead vocals.

Well, aside from knowing that this shit was going on, it wasn't Friga's fault Augeri couldn't sing. It sure as hell wasn't Deen's fault...Hell, Deen saved his wretched ass nightly. Deen should call him and ask for half of the money Augeri stole, disguised as a paycheck. It definitely isn't Neal Schon's fault. He plays his guitar (does his job) impeccably. I fail to see how this is anyone's fault but that phony fuck, Augeri. Please explain this Maria.


Because they all 'knew', and they STILL all got up on stage and performed behind them. ANY of them could have stopped it just as easily as Augeri could. It's the entire band's fault for standing behind this decision, not just Augeri's.
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