Why no TBF tunes on tour ??

by **Liquid_Drummer** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:44 am

I really think this is a great album. It has an airy huge sound and I think quite a few songs would come off great live. Color of the spirit being a fav. Would love to hear JSS take a stab at that one.

by **Liquid_Drummer** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:49 am

And might I add that the album has the most incredible drum sound ! The drum production is fucking flawless and bows to Steve Smith !

by **heardonthestreet** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:18 am

Liquid_Drummer wrote:And might I add that the album has the most incredible drum sound ! The drum production is fucking flawless and bows to Steve Smith !

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In an interview, Smitty spoke of how hard he worked at perfecting it. The work, for all the guys, was tops, imo. Cain said, at the time, that he considered it their best effort.

You have great pipes, LD. Is it something that you are taking seriously or is it just a hobby?

by **Liquid_Drummer** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:55 am

I dunno. I have thought about taking it serious however I dont have the vocal stamina for it at the moment. Top end of my range gets tired too fast from either lack of doing it or bad technique. For now its for fun however I do sing backups in most of the bands I have been in when I am on drums and I know my voice can hold up when I sing in a lower register...

by **froy** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:52 am

Liquid_Drummer wrote:I really think this is a great album. It has an airy huge sound and I think quite a few songs would come off great live. Color of the spirit being a fav. Would love to hear JSS take a stab at that one.

Colors of the Spirit
ROCKS

They need Perry for it though
He double tracks the haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa part
I love that tune

by **squirt1** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:24 am

I would think that Neal NEVER liked that album. Simple as that. He should think about the many fans that did.

by **froy** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:40 am

squirt1 wrote:I would think that Neal NEVER liked that album. Simple as that. He should think about the many fans that did.

Great cd
One of there Best

Easy To Fall
Colors of The Spirit
Can't Tame the Lion
Message of Love
Still She Cries
When You Love a Women
Its Just The Rain
Castles Burning live burns

All great songs.

by i » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:51 am

Probably because (beyond us) nobody knows the songs. They have a limited set now, and a crowd mixed with DL fans.
They barely get away with DOA and EOTB. I’m thankful for them slipping those in there.
Maybe next tour they can experiment more. I’d love to hear MOL and OM!!!

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by **Wally_Hatchet** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:27 am

They ran through Message Of Love during a recent soundcheck - hopefully they will add it soon.

by **Matthew** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:36 pm

Liquid_Drummer wrote:And might I add that the album has the most incredible drum sound ! The drum production is fucking flawless and bows to Steve Smith !

I agree LD.

Drum production has possibly been the weakest aspect of Journey's recording career - but they got it right on TBF.

by **Andrew** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:49 pm

Message Of Love will be added for headling shows coming up...

by **ArnelRox** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:01 pm

Andrew wrote:Message Of Love will be added for headling shows coming up...

Do u mean the UK shows & next yr's shows? Not the ones w/Def Leppard?

Thanks for the info btw.

by **Andrew** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:07 pm

UK and upcoming Mexico show

by **ArnelRox** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:16 pm

Andrew wrote:UK and upcoming Mexico show

Thanks Andrew. I didn't realize that was a Journey headliner show. I just thought it was a Journey/Def Leppard one. That's awesome. Now I wish I was going tho.

by **ohsherrie** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:19 pm

You know this could be a good way to break audiences in to hearing new songs. First the album tracks like EOTB and DOA(familiar though not part of the DD), then some tracks from TBF(familiar to some of the fans), then next some altogether new stuff.

by **NoMoreTails** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:08 am

Jeff's voice isn't low enough to do any TBF tunes. :wink:

by **ohsherrie** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:13 am

NoMoreTails wrote:Jeff's voice isn't low enough to do any TBF tunes.

I'm assuming you mean that as a joke, right? I'd love to hear him do Don't Be Down on Me Baby.

by **NoMoreTails** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:16 am

ohsherrie wrote:
NoMoreTails wrote:Jeff's voice isn't low enough to do any TBF tunes.

I'm assuming you mean that as a joke, right? I'd love to hear him do Don't Be Down on Me Baby.

Yes, JSS has the lows as well as the highs. Just about as versatile a singer as I've heard.

by **Big J** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:27 am

One More would be awesome too. Throw in a vote for It's Just the Rain too.

by **NoMoreTails** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:32 am

Big J wrote:One More would be awesome too. Throw in a vote for It's Just the Rain too.

I'd second that, One More in 98 was cool, always liked IJTR too but would go with something more aggresive live.
Big Viv Campbell fan? More a fan of his work outside Lep myself.

by **ohsherrie** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:39 am

NoMoreTails wrote:
Big J wrote:One More would be awesome too. Throw in a vote for It's Just the Rain too.

I'd second that, One More in 98 was cool, always liked IJTR too but would go with something more aggresive live.
Big Viv Campbell fan? More a fan of his work outside Lep myself.

This may sound kind of hokey to some of you guys but I think it would make for a fabulous show to had IJTR with the thunder storm sound and light effects going into TBF.

by **NoMoreTails** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:43 am

ohsherrie wrote:....the thunder storm sound and light effects going into TBF.

I always thought they kind of "stole" this from the Storm, but an old boot posted here recently showed that Journey used that on (I think) Winds of March in 79 I believe.

by **Chevypv** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:01 am

NoMoreTails wrote:
Big J wrote:One More would be awesome too. Throw in a vote for It's Just the Rain too.

I'd second that, One More in 98 was cool, always liked IJTR too but would go with something more aggresive live.
Big Viv Campbell fan? More a fan of his work outside Lep myself.

I had no clue they did "One More" live....I wish I could hear a recording of that...Well, Id like to hear JSS do it live more than anything....

by **NoMoreTails** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:06 am

Chevypv wrote:
NoMoreTails wrote:
Big J wrote:One More would be awesome too. Throw in a vote for It's Just the Rain too.

I'd second that, One More in 98 was cool, always liked IJTR too but would go with something more aggresive live.
Big Viv Campbell fan? More a fan of his work outside Lep myself.

I had no clue they did "One More" live....I wish I could hear a recording of that...Well, Id like to hear JSS do it live more than anything....

I saw them do MOL, OM, Cant Tame the Lion and Castles Burning at '98 shows, thought SA did them better than the album version, thought they'd pursue the heavier side more than they ultimately did as I thought the rock stuff would be his forte. No doubt that JSS would do a great job on them as well.

by **Chevypv** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:09 am

NoMoreTails wrote:
Chevypv wrote:
NoMoreTails wrote:
Big J wrote:One More would be awesome too. Throw in a vote for It's Just the Rain too.

I'd second that, One More in 98 was cool, always liked IJTR too but would go with something more aggresive live.
Big Viv Campbell fan? More a fan of his work outside Lep myself.

I had no clue they did "One More" live....I wish I could hear a recording of that...Well, Id like to hear JSS do it live more than anything....

I saw them do MOL, OM, Cant Tame the Lion and Castles Burning at '98 shows, thought SA did them better than the album version, thought they'd pursue the heavier side more than they ultimately did as I thought the rock stuff would be his forte. No doubt that JSS would do a great job on them as well.

Yeah, I never thought his voice fit the ballads as well...Too bad theres no boots of any of those concerts floating around

by **maverick218** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:32 am

whenpigsfly wrote:same reason you don't hear new songs. Nobody beyond us know the songs...
they barely get away with DOA and EOTB. Thank God for them slipping those in there
maybe next tour they can experiment more

I wish they would experiment more, I'm burnt out with just hearing the dirty dozen.

by *Laura » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:29 am

Would love to hear Message Of Love live...

I also think that JSS would do a great job with When You Love A Woman.He has the voice for it.
I believe he would produce some goosebumps on people with a live performance of that one.

by **Granny** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:51 am

Shania wrote:Would love to hear Message Of Love live...

I also think that JSS would do a great job with When You Love A Woman.He has the voice for it.
I believe he would produce some goosebumps on people with a live performance of that one.

Ditto!....especially those 2 songs...2 of my fav....Granny

by **Monker** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:10 am

Liquid_Drummer wrote:I really think this is a great album. It has an airy huge sound and I think quite a few songs would come off great live. Color of the spirit being a fav. Would love to hear JSS take a stab at that one.

They are not performed on this tour because this is a GH tour, and there were no "greatest" hits on TBF. You don't go on a nostalgia tour and perform songs that are not nostalgic.

by **TRAGChick** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:14 am

Big J wrote:Throw in a vote for It's Just the Rain too.

Personally, I would've LOVED this song....if Steve P. had gotten more "strength" behind the vocals.

SO much potential...but no strength...IMO...

MR