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by **journeyrock** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 3:17 am

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Fuck, how did I NOT see this stupid shit?

Dude, check yourself. You prefer Augeri to Perry? What the Hell is wrong with British people? He wasn't fit to be his baggage handler.

You ever see Perry in a live environment? There was NONE better....NONE.[/quote]

Deano,

I had you figured ALL wrong. I am new here on the board and somehow came to the conclusion from my reading that you hated Perry. I agree with you on Augeri AND I think JSS is a great addition to Journey.

by **ArnelRox** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:13 am

Rockin'Deano wrote:
JourneyRox wrote:
DV is really a very very very nice person honestly if u take the time to get to know him & the ultimate expert in Journey history. He just gets upset on here when he reads things that are incorrect or misquoted.

You are delusional. DV doesn't know dick. He thinks I don't know anything. That's fine. You all believe what you want.

No Dean I'm not delusional. Have u ever talked to DV?

by **ArnelRox** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:16 am

MartyMoffatt wrote:
I don't dislike Perry, and I certainly acknowledge that he is a great singer. However, personally I prefer versions of the songs as sung by Augeri, and especially JSS, sung in a live environment.

Marty

Yeah Marty I did forget ur category. I guess ur a wigglin' loco. I guess I never thought anyone would have come to like the band cos of Augeri if they didn't already like Perry. I was wrong. U surprised me.

by **whocares** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:59 am

I have no class, where's that option?

by **Stumpflower** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 7:05 am

I went with the majority. I'll listen to Journey under any circumstances.

by **JeremyP** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:12 am

I have to say that I became a fan because of Augeri. I first heard Journey on the Armageddon soundtrack and I was blown away. I didn't know anything about them except that they had been around for a long time. (I was 15) I had no clue who Steve Perry was. I assumed that Steve Augeri was their original singer and I became a fan based on that.

Later on, I became a fan of the Pre-Perry and Perry lineups as well, but the Augeri lineup will always hold a special place for me, that's the lineup that I saw live and connected to and thought "that's MY Journey"

Just one fan's perspective

by **Moose** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:14 am

JeremyP wrote:I have to say that I became a fan because of Augeri. I first heard Journey on the Armageddon soundtrack and I was blown away. I didn't know anything about them except that they had been around for a long time. (I was 15) I had no clue who Steve Perry was. I assumed that Steve Augeri was their original singer and I became a fan based on that.

Later on, I became a fan of the Pre-Perry and Perry lineups as well, but the Augeri lineup will always hold a special place for me, that's the lineup that I saw live and connected to and thought "that's MY Journey"

Just one fan's perspective

I'm sure you are in the minority, but hang on to your Journey. Don't let the people here bully you. No doubt they will try!

by **SuiteMadameBlue** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:22 am

I chose FAN

I'm just happy to go to any Journey concert and enjoy the music. I'm looking forward to their new cd :lol:

by **JeremyP** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:23 am

Moose wrote:
JeremyP wrote:I have to say that I became a fan because of Augeri. I first heard Journey on the Armageddon soundtrack and I was blown away. I didn't know anything about them except that they had been around for a long time. (I was 15) I had no clue who Steve Perry was. I assumed that Steve Augeri was their original singer and I became a fan based on that.

Later on, I became a fan of the Pre-Perry and Perry lineups as well, but the Augeri lineup will always hold a special place for me, that's the lineup that I saw live and connected to and thought "that's MY Journey"

Just one fan's perspective

I'm sure you are in the minority, but hang on to your Journey. Don't let the people here bully you. No doubt they will try!

Thanks for your kind words, I really appreciate them.

by **Lula** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:26 am

JeremyP wrote:I have to say that I became a fan because of Augeri. I first heard Journey on the Armageddon soundtrack and I was blown away. I didn't know anything about them except that they had been around for a long time. (I was 15) I had no clue who Steve Perry was. I assumed that Steve Augeri was their original singer and I became a fan based on that.

Later on, I became a fan of the Pre-Perry and Perry lineups as well, but the Augeri lineup will always hold a special place for me, that's the lineup that I saw live and connected to and thought "that's MY Journey"

Just one fan's perspective

Well said and good for you!

I have a few years on ya, my Journey started with Perry and the Infinity album. My first show was Evolution. I was bummed when Rolie left, but liked the Babys so the 'new' guy was okay

. I enjoyed the 04 and 05 tours and am enjoying the Journey of today.

by **Moose** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:31 am

Lula wrote:
JeremyP wrote:I have to say that I became a fan because of Augeri. I first heard Journey on the Armageddon soundtrack and I was blown away. I didn't know anything about them except that they had been around for a long time. (I was 15) I had no clue who Steve Perry was. I assumed that Steve Augeri was their original singer and I became a fan based on that.

Later on, I became a fan of the Pre-Perry and Perry lineups as well, but the Augeri lineup will always hold a special place for me, that's the lineup that I saw live and connected to and thought "that's MY Journey"

Just one fan's perspective

Well said and good for.

I have a few years on ya, my Journey started with Perry and the Infinity album. My first show was Evolution. I was bummed when Rolie left, but liked the Babys so the 'new' guy was okay . I enjoyed the 04 and 05 tours and am enjoying the Journey of today.

ahhh, but you must admit, the new guy from the Babys helped the band go to a new level

by **Lula** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:34 am

I love Jon and think his talent is endless.

by **Crazie Scarab** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:38 am

Lula wrote:
JeremyP wrote:I have to say that I became a fan because of Augeri. I first heard Journey on the Armageddon soundtrack and I was blown away. I didn't know anything about them except that they had been around for a long time. (I was 15) I had no clue who Steve Perry was. I assumed that Steve Augeri was their original singer and I became a fan based on that.

Later on, I became a fan of the Pre-Perry and Perry lineups as well, but the Augeri lineup will always hold a special place for me, that's the lineup that I saw live and connected to and thought "that's MY Journey"

Just one fan's perspective

Well said and good for you!

I have a few years on ya, my Journey started with Perry and the Infinity album. My first show was Evolution. I was bummed when Rolie left, but liked the Babys so the 'new' guy was okay . I enjoyed the 04 and 05 tours and am enjoying the Journey of today.

Showing your age again, Lula.. Let me guess? You're 29!

by **Moose** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:39 am

Lula wrote:I love Jon and think his talent is endless.

Agreed... I even like his instrumental stuff. He is truly talented. Even if Deano likes to make fun of his name!

by **Crazie Scarab** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:42 am

I find the results of this poll quite interesting and telling about who we are as fans. Seems most of us are true blue Journey fans & really don't care who the lead singer is. So, it is about the music!

by **donnaplease** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:13 am

I voted as "a fan", 'cause I am a fan of Journey. However, I became a fan because of the voice of Steve Perry--it just grabbed me as a silly 9th grader at a high school dance...plus I had a boyfriend that idolized them. As I've matured, I've learned to respect not only the beautiful voice, but also the music itself, and the way each member brings it together like no other group I can think of.

I have not been a 'fan' of Journey with Steve Augeri, not out of spite because of what happened with SP, but rather because I had been busy 'living my life' and raising my kids. Musical interests change, and Journey kinda fell off my radar.

However... in recent months my interest has renewed itself in a BIG WAY!!! Thanks to you guys, who have taught me a lot about the history of the band and it's members. I'm so psyched about the November 9 concert in Baltimore, and I can't wait to hear new music from Journey, WHOEVER is fronting them!!! I will hold out just a little hope for a SP/Journey reunion though...

by **Crazie Scarab** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:29 am

donnaplease wrote:I will hold out just a little hope for a SP/Journey reunion though...

I think that deep down a lot of us do. However, I feel it is very unlikely to happen. On the other-hand, I am thinking now that he may be interested in doing something solo-wise. I sure hope for at least that much, as we are all missing him to one degree or another. At least most of us do.

by **donnaplease** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:42 am

Crazie Scarab wrote:
donnaplease wrote:I will hold out just a little hope for a SP/Journey reunion though...

I think that deep down a lot of us do. However, I feel it is very unlikely to happen. On the other-hand, I am thinking now that he may be interested in doing something solo-wise. I sure hope for at least that much, as we are all missing him to one degree or another. At least most of us do.

You're right, I know...it would just be SO AWESOME!!!

by **Enigma869** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:08 am

MartyMoffatt wrote:On album recordings, whilst I fully acknowledge SP's ability, I always found his voice TOO powerful (or at least too high in the mix), to the extent that all the other instruments were pushed into the background. When it comes to rock music, I am a fan of the music and the melody rather than just the voice. Augeri's voice, because it was not as powerful as Perry's, allowed the rest of the music to come to the fore.
Marty

This might be the most bizarre logic that I've ever read about liking Augeri over Perry. Most of the wackos over at BT like Augeri over Perry because they're 40 year old women, who are in heat and have a red leather fetish. Now, I read from a dude that he actually likes Augeri's voice over Perry's because it just isn't quite as good as Perry's???? Perhaps Journey should find someone who sucks a bit more than Augeri, and then that may well be the very perfect vocalist for Journey. Perhaps, they can ditch this whole lead singer thing, completely, and just become the jam band they started out as!

John from Boston

by **donnaplease** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:15 am

Enigma869 wrote:
MartyMoffatt wrote:On album recordings, whilst I fully acknowledge SP's ability, I always found his voice TOO powerful (or at least too high in the mix), to the extent that all the other instruments were pushed into the background. When it comes to rock music, I am a fan of the music and the melody rather than just the voice. Augeri's voice, because it was not as powerful as Perry's, allowed the rest of the music to come to the fore.
Marty

This might be the most bizarre logic that I've ever read about liking Augeri over Perry. Most of the wackos over at BT like Augeri over Perry because they're 40 year old women, who are in heat and have a red leather fetish. Now, I read from a dude that he actually likes Augeri's voice over Perry's because it just isn't quite as good as Perry's???? Perhaps Journey should find someone who sucks a bit more than Augeri, and then that may well be the very perfect vocalist for Journey. Perhaps, they can ditch this whole lead singer thing, completely, and just become the jam band they started out as!

John from Boston

You're right, John, that has to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard!!! No offense, Marty, but...Steve Perry's voice BROUGHT the rest of the music alive. It was the combination of SP's voice and Neal's guitar that made Journey what is was...and it will never be what it once was. Still lookin' forward to JSS though.

by **ohsherrie** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:19 am

Crazie Scarab wrote:
donnaplease wrote:I will hold out just a little hope for a SP/Journey reunion though...

I think that deep down a lot of us do. However, I feel it is very unlikely to happen. On the other-hand, I am thinking now that he may be interested in doing something solo-wise. I sure hope for at least that much, as we are all missing him to one degree or another. At least most of us do.

Good post.

by **Enigma869** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:21 am

donnaplease wrote: It was the combination of SP's voice and Neal's guitar that made Journey what is was...and it will never be what it once was. Still lookin' forward to JSS though.

Don't forget the songwriting of Cain. I'm as big of a Perry fan you will ever find, but, Cain's contributions simply can't be overlooked. The fucker should never sing lead, because he sucks ass as a vocalist. That said, he's really a great musician and was quite the find for Journey, when Rolie exited stage left.

John from Boston

by **Rockindeano** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:22 am

Well MM, that was a clear and concise post, but very different than saying you prefer Fraudgeri to Perry.

by **donnaplease** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:25 am

Enigma869 wrote:
donnaplease wrote: It was the combination of SP's voice and Neal's guitar that made Journey what is was...and it will never be what it once was. Still lookin' forward to JSS though.

Don't forget the songwriting of Cain. I'm as big of a Perry fan you will ever find, but, Cain's contributions simply can't be overlooked. The fucker should never sing lead, because he sucks ass as a vocalist. That said, he's really a great musician and was quite the find for Journey, when Rolie exited stage left.

John from Boston

You're right, Cain is awesome too! Not too bad on the eyes, either. And his nose is nicely proportionate to the rest of his face... :wink:

by **A Fire Inside** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:41 pm

donnaplease wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:
MartyMoffatt wrote:On album recordings, whilst I fully acknowledge SP's ability, I always found his voice TOO powerful (or at least too high in the mix), to the extent that all the other instruments were pushed into the background. When it comes to rock music, I am a fan of the music and the melody rather than just the voice. Augeri's voice, because it was not as powerful as Perry's, allowed the rest of the music to come to the fore.
Marty

This might be the most bizarre logic that I've ever read about liking Augeri over Perry. Most of the wackos over at BT like Augeri over Perry because they're 40 year old women, who are in heat and have a red leather fetish. Now, I read from a dude that he actually likes Augeri's voice over Perry's because it just isn't quite as good as Perry's???? Perhaps Journey should find someone who sucks a bit more than Augeri, and then that may well be the very perfect vocalist for Journey. Perhaps, they can ditch this whole lead singer thing, completely, and just become the jam band they started out as!

John from Boston

You're right, John, that has to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard!!! No offense, Marty, but...Steve Perry's voice BROUGHT the rest of the music alive. It was the combination of SP's voice and Neal's guitar that made Journey what is was...and it will never be what it once was. Still lookin' forward to JSS though.

Jesus Christ, the guy doesn't like Steve Perry, let him!! We all have opinions.

IMO, Marty, the reason Perry's voice is to "out there" is because he had it mixed that way... Augeri had no such authority...

by **ArnelRox** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:27 pm

A Fire Inside wrote:IMO, Marty, the reason Perry's voice is to "out there" is because he had it mixed that way... Augeri had no such authority...

Sorry AFI. Nah!

It's because Perry's voice was the best there ever was & probably ever will be (maybe someone will come along some day that's better, but it sure ain't happened yet). Perry's vox could NOT be overshadowed. & who in their right fuckin mind would want to mix the music over the greatest instrument of all: Perry's vox? They'd be fuckin nuts.

by **Deb** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:31 pm

A Fire Inside wrote:IMO, Marty, the reason Perry's voice is to "out there" is because he had it mixed that way... Augeri had no such authority...

He also had a lot stronger/powerful voice than Augeri.

by **ArnelRox** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:35 pm

strungout wrote:
A Fire Inside wrote:IMO, Marty, the reason Perry's voice is to "out there" is because he had it mixed that way... Augeri had no such authority...

He also had a lot stronger/powerful voice than Augeri.

Uh yeah like woah...duh...loads STRONGER. Fuck ...let's tell the truth. Perry's vox & Augeri's vox ain't even in the same ballpark.

(don't mind me I been drinking & perrying :lol:

)

by **A Fire Inside** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:14 pm

I agree that Perry's voice is stronger than Augeri's. But studio magic could have put Augeri right out there, or toned Perry down. I have heard it argued that Perry's vox were way down in the mix on TBF. If they had wanted it to I'm sure Augeri's voice could have overpowered the music as well.

by **ArnelRox** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:22 pm

A Fire Inside wrote:I agree that Perry's voice is stronger than Augeri's. But studio magic could have put Augeri right out there, or toned Perry down. I have heard it argued that Perry's vox were way down in the mix on TBF. If they had wanted it to I'm sure Augeri's voice could have overpowered the music as well.

Live? I think not. Come now. I sincerely hope u jest. U think Augie-Waugie could ever have done this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuxleqU0iDg

Not even with 100,000 vocal coaches.

MR

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