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Postby Mandi » Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:24 pm

While I agree with those of you who have stated that if Steve Augeri cannot sing any more, then he shouldn't be in the band. Obviously a frontman with no voice is useless to them.

However, I do not feel that Steve Augeri was useless to Journey in the eight years the was with them. He gave Neal and JC what they wanted, someone who was willing to sing Steve Perry's songs, someone who was willing to stand in the mighty shadow of Steve Perry and sing the songs he gave to the world, and be the frontman of the band Steve Perry once led. Not an easy thing to do, especially since SA was a huge fan of Mr. Perry's. He knew he would be setting himself up for comparisons and critiques, but he took the job anyway. He knew he was leaving a stable job with a pension and benefits(YES, it was the GAP, but it paid the bills, so laugh all you want) that he needed to support his family, but he did it any way.

He went into the studio with the band and recorded one of the best Journey albums ever (Arrival). He allowed the band to make a ton of money by touring for eight years. Sure, the Steve Augeri era music didn't put Journey back on the charts, but at this time in music, no one short of Mr. Perry himself could do that. Journey is quite frankly, past their prime when it comes to radio air play. Maybe JSS will change that, but maybe no one can change that. Maybe their time is just past.

Steve Augeri gave Journey eight years of his life, and he gave them happily because he lived out a dream. Now, his voice may be ruined for the rest of his life and all people can do is bash and make jokes about him. He brought Journey a ton of new fans. He brought Journey some much needed class, too. People began to see what a great person SA is, and his reputation for caring about the fans spread to the rest of the band. They ALL benefited from having SA in the band.
And when he couldn't sing anymore, they ALL knew it, and they ALL agreed to using tapes so they could keep on touring. And now the shit has hit the fan (no pun intended) and they ALL blame Steve Augeri.

I hope he does get millions out of them, although I doubt that will be the case. He is real person with a real family and very real bills to pay and a real life to live. He deserves to be compensated for not being able to continue. People will always blame him for the tapegate scandal, and now they will all blame him for the hold-up to "big News". The blame for all of this should fall on all five shoulders, not just one.

I don't mean to sound like an attorney and I certainly don't want to come in here and preach to all of you who know much more about Journey and music than I do. I just feel that there is nothing to be gained from belittling this man any more. If he is hesitating to signing anything that will effect the rest of his life, so what? Would any one here do anything less than that if it was YOUR life??
Cut him a little slack. He is gone from Journey. Jeff is the new lead singer, and Journey's future looks very bright again. Remember when we all said that eight years ago?

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Postby Rosebud » Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:29 pm

This place is getting to be like Backtalk, all the posts sound the fucking same~
are the same people posting over and over or what!? :!:
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Postby kbo » Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:31 pm

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I had sympathy for Augeri when all this first happened. He didn't ask to lose what was a good singing voice. He was never, IMO, vocally worthy of being the frontman for Journey, but he tried. He had a good voice, just not good enough to sing the Perry oriented material. The CDs they did after he joined were good, but not great. His bread has been buttered during his time with Journey by the Perry material that was too much for him. He should be thankful for that butter because he sure hasn't churned any of his own. Instead of thanking Journey for the time that they allowed him to have with them he's holding out for something that he hasn't earned. I no longer have any sympathy for him.


OhSherrie: Please tell me how much butter JSS has churned during his long and illustrious career? I knew about as much about JSS's work as I did about Steve Augeri prior to them both participating in Journey.
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Postby JeremyP » Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:57 pm

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JeremyP wrote:
I have to respectfully disagree about Steve A. not having churned his own butter. (that sounds funny lol)

That lineup got me into Journey in the first place. They may not appeal to everyone's taste, but the Augeri era albums are very musically interesting and relevant. As a musician myself, trust me, I'm a stickler. lol

I do agree about the songs being too much for him night after night, as I think they were for Perry. Those songs have vocals which are verrry high and extremely demanding. To consistantly hit every single note as they're sung on the albums night after night on a months-long tour would be super human and I haven't heard the Journey frontman yet who could do it.

Lou Gramm has mentioned that it's been hard for him to sing the songs the way they're sung on the record, and we all know what an amazing voice he's been in the classic rock scene.

I feel like some think, "If it ain't Perry, it ain't good." I don't wanna put words into anybody's mouth so please correct me if that's what I'm doing.


Jeremy, I'm glad that you became a Journey fan for whatever reason. I'm glad you appreciated the humor of the "churned butter" thing. :) Yes, the songs became too much for Perry too, but they were and still are his songs. He did them in their time. None of the songs that Augeri sung were anywhere near comparable in quality or range.

I used to feel that it couldn't be Journey if it wasn't Perry. I don't anymore. It couldn't become Journey to some of we "oldtimers" with Augeri because he just couldn't deliver the same quality goods. I guess the fact that someone who never knew "Perry quality" in it's time thought the Augeri sung songs were good speaks to the quality of what's out there today.

Stick around though. With JSS onboard more great stuff is still to come. :D


I totally hear you about the Perry era songs being his songs. I feel that way about most artists. I prefer the original over anyone else in most cases. However, it's a bit different in my case when I hear the Augeri stuff. I just feel he has, in terms of live performances, a better delivery than Perry. I can post specific examples of what I'm talking about if you'd like. Since all this is subjective to the listener anyway, I doubt we'd hear the same thing, but it'd be fun to listen and compare.

Btw, I LOVE comparing Perry, Augeri, and now JSS performances of the same songs, I don't know why, it's just fun to hear the little different touches that they put on the songs.

As far as studio albums go, I'd never put down the Perry or Pre-Perry albums because they are amazing. I also feel that the Augeri albums are equally amazing. (With the exception of Generations...I like a some songs on there, the rest I skip)

I don't understand why I would have had to be alive in 1981 to understand what great songs are on Escape. I think they stand well enough on their own and will continue to do so. I think the Augeri lineup could have been HUGE if Arrival had come out then. Unfortunately, in 2000, rap and bubblegum pop were dominant on the mainstream charts which didn't leave actual BANDS like Journey a chance.

Tell me Neal's solo in "World Gone Wild" isn't amazing!! :P

Frontiers came out on the day that I was born, so that album holds a special place for me. I was driving home from college on my 20th birthday, and the DJ goes, "1983" and the "Seperate Ways" keyboard riff started. I was like, "YES!!" :P :P

Btw, Trial By Fire is one of my favorite albums EVER!! I can listen to the whole album without skipping a track, and that's saying something.
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Postby Saint John » Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:59 pm

kbo wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:
I had sympathy for Augeri when all this first happened. He didn't ask to lose what was a good singing voice. He was never, IMO, vocally worthy of being the frontman for Journey, but he tried. He had a good voice, just not good enough to sing the Perry oriented material. The CDs they did after he joined were good, but not great. His bread has been buttered during his time with Journey by the Perry material that was too much for him. He should be thankful for that butter because he sure hasn't churned any of his own. Instead of thanking Journey for the time that they allowed him to have with them he's holding out for something that he hasn't earned. I no longer have any sympathy for him.


OhSherrie: Please tell me how much butter JSS has churned during his long and illustrious career? I knew about as much about JSS's work as I did about Steve Augeri prior to them both participating in Journey.


JSS has toured solo and as part of various groups since he was 18. He has built enough of a base to tour throughout many different countries. Additionally, he is very respected by his peers in music circles. Album sales from collaborations he was a part of are in the millions. Something Augeri can't come close to saying. There is NO comparison between the two.....none at all. JSS is better in every facet.
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Postby JeremyP » Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:08 pm

The problem is that this incarnation of Journey didn't get many others other than yourself to buy their new music. While they were "relevant" to you, to most they were only relevant as karaoke with live music. Album sales prove that


I don't equate mainstream relevance with musical skill. That's the context in which I was speaking of relevance. The Augeri albums are as filled to the brim with talent as the Perry and Pre-Perry ones.

If mainstream chart positions determined musical relevance, Nsync or Jessica Simpson would be on the same level as bands like Boston and Foreigner...ect...bands with musicians who actually wrote their own songs and played instruments.

I think there's a difference between "bands" and "acts".
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Postby Melissa » Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:12 pm

kbo wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:
I had sympathy for Augeri when all this first happened. He didn't ask to lose what was a good singing voice. He was never, IMO, vocally worthy of being the frontman for Journey, but he tried. He had a good voice, just not good enough to sing the Perry oriented material. The CDs they did after he joined were good, but not great. His bread has been buttered during his time with Journey by the Perry material that was too much for him. He should be thankful for that butter because he sure hasn't churned any of his own. Instead of thanking Journey for the time that they allowed him to have with them he's holding out for something that he hasn't earned. I no longer have any sympathy for him.


OhSherrie: Please tell me how much butter JSS has churned during his long and illustrious career? I knew about as much about JSS's work as I did about Steve Augeri prior to them both participating in Journey.


lol- Go to JSS's site & check his discography. Grab a snack, something to drink, & get comfy, it's looooong.

He's churned a SHITLOAD. 8)
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Postby JeremyP » Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:18 pm

Actually, Journey did have a frontman who could do it.


I have bootlegs that I feel could disprove this. However, since taste is objective, we'd probably hear different things. You say tomato, I say.....tomato. :P

Of course, he didn't have to sing the same songs over and over again, because their albums were successful enough that they didn't have to rely on the same 'dirty dozen' songs.


I think that:

"Wheel In The Sky"
"Lights"
"Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin'"
"Anyway You Want It"
"Who's Crying Now"
"Stone In Love"
"Open Arms"

were all played at every Perry era concert from when the songs came out on the original albums through when Perry put a halt on the ROR tour.


BTW, I happen to really love his lower range, sometimes I think I like it better than his early 80's sound


Me too! :D
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Postby Saint John » Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:36 pm

JeremyP wrote:
The problem is that this incarnation of Journey didn't get many others other than yourself to buy their new music. While they were "relevant" to you, to most they were only relevant as karaoke with live music. Album sales prove that


The Augeri albums are as filled to the brim with talent as the Perry and Pre-Perry ones.



Not vocally they're not. Not even close. Augeri's vocals are muddled. He doesn't have the range, power or songwriting ability Perry had either. He is comparable to Perry on NO level.
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Postby ArnelRox » Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:52 pm

JeremyP wrote: I just feel he has, in terms of live performances, a better delivery than Perry. I can post specific examples of what I'm talking about if you'd like. Since all this is subjective to the listener anyway, I doubt we'd hear the same thing, but it'd be fun to listen and compare.


Go ahead Jeremy put up those examples. There is NOT one single song from Perry's days w/the bands that Augeri ever did better. Not one. How u could say that is beyond me. People who followed this band for 30 yrs & supported Augeri as the frontman would not say that. Perry is the best there ever was. Jeff owns those songs but even he has said he couldn't even carry Perry's suitcases. Put up ur example. Go ahead.
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Postby ArnelRox » Sat Nov 25, 2006 2:59 pm

Mandi wrote: He went into the studio with the band and recorded one of the best Journey albums ever (Arrival).


Sorry Mandi. Arrival was decent. But put it up against Infinity, Evolution, Departure & most especially Escape. The vocals fall way short.

Mandi wrote: Steve Augeri gave Journey eight years of his life, and he gave them happily because he lived out a dream.


No. Steve Augeri took on a job that paid him very well. More than he ever made before. He didn't volunteer to be Journey's frontman. He didn't do it for minimum wage. Get real.

Mandi wrote: He brought Journey a ton of new fans.


Hardly. & the ones he brought could never make up for the multitude lost b/c Perry wasn't w/them. It wasn't Augeri's fault that Perry-only fans left. But NO Augeri brought the band a FEW new fans, not tons.

Mandi wrote: He brought Journey some much needed class, too.


What? Hardly. Perry had/has more class in his little finger than Augeri. What? B/c Augeri was married & a family man means he had more class than Perry? Is that what ur saying? Or was it the red leather pants?

Mandi wrote: People began to see what a great person SA is, and his reputation for caring about the fans spread to the rest of the band.


Oh so u think all the hours the rest of the band spent signing autographs, MORE hours btw, back when Perry was w/them were not done b/c they cared about the band? Get real.

Mandi wrote: They ALL benefited from having SA in the band.


Not the past yr they didn't.

Mandi wrote: He is real person with a real family and very real bills to pay and a real life to live. He deserves to be compensated for not being able to continue.


Oh I see. So Neal, Ross, Jon & Deen aren't "real" people w/real families & they don't have real bills to pay & a real life to live? Go tell them that. See how they like it. WTF.

Mandi wrote: People will always blame him for the tapegate scandal, and now they will all blame him for the hold-up to "big News". The blame for all of this should fall on all five shoulders, not just one.


Yeah & who's holding up the news?

Mandi wrote: Remember when we all said that eight years ago?


Maybe u said that. I didn't.
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Postby JeremyP » Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:01 pm

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Not vocally they're not. Not even close. Augeri's vocals are muddled. He doesn't have the range, power or songwriting ability Perry had either. He is comparable to Perry on NO level.


I totally respect your opinion, and I wanna thank everyone who has made this conversation (for me) very pleasant and fun without descending into hostilities. I love talking about Journey like this. :)

Can you please define muddled for me? You mean like not clear?

See, people who's fanship of Journey originated from different lineups can interact peacefully and constructively.

Once again, thanks everybody!
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Postby JeremyP » Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:04 pm

JourneyRox wrote:
JeremyP wrote: I just feel he has, in terms of live performances, a better delivery than Perry. I can post specific examples of what I'm talking about if you'd like. Since all this is subjective to the listener anyway, I doubt we'd hear the same thing, but it'd be fun to listen and compare.


Go ahead Jeremy put up those examples. There is NOT one single song from Perry's days w/the bands that Augeri ever did better. Not one. How u could say that is beyond me. People who followed this band for 30 yrs & supported Augeri as the frontman would not say that. Perry is the best there ever was. Jeff owns those songs but even he has said he couldn't even carry Perry's suitcases. Put up ur example. Go ahead.


Ok, I'll put them up. This will be fun. I've been boring everyone in my family to death with Perry/Augeri song comparisons, it's so fun to do this with Journey fans.

I know what Jeff said, but I think he does himself and Mr. Augeri a disservice. At least in this humble fan's opinion.
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Postby Saint John » Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:09 pm

JeremyP wrote:
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Not vocally they're not. Not even close. Augeri's vocals are muddled. He doesn't have the range, power or songwriting ability Perry had either. He is comparable to Perry on NO level.


I totally respect your opinion, and I wanna thank everyone who has made this conversation (for me) very pleasant and fun without descending into hostilities. I love talking about Journey like this. :)

Can you please define muddled for me? You mean like not clear?

See, people who's fanship of Journey originated from different lineups can interact peacefully and constructively.

Once again, thanks everybody!



Muddled as far as production quality...something that wasn't really his fault. However, I just never thought he had that clear, "in your face" voice that Perry did. I grew up singing Journey songs because I learned the lyrics from repititious listening. Many of Augeri's songs, live included, seemed impossible to decipher the lyrics. His voice just wasn't clear to me. Additionally, his era of music didn't have the "catchy" choruses that Perry's era did. Higher Place came close, but that's the only one I can think of.
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Postby JeremyP » Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:15 pm

[quote="saint John]

Muddled as far as production quality...something that wasn't really his fault. However, I just never thought he had that clear, "in your face" voice that Perry did. I grew up singing Journey songs because I learned the lyrics from repititious listening. Many of Augeri's songs, live included, seemed impossible to decipher the lyrics. His voice just wasn't clear to me. Additionally, his era of music didn't have the "catchy" choruses that Perry's era did. Higher Place came close, but that's the only one I can think of.[/quote]

I understand what you're saying. I've heard that before from people. I've never really experienced it, but I acknowledge that you do. Plus, Perry was working the whole enunciation thing. "She needed so much mo-ah, than I could give...."

As far as the catchiness of the choruses....(or chori :P ) I am all about catchiness. If I feel a song or a band doesn't have the required hooks to maintain my interest, I am out.

I have to say that the chorus of "Signs of Life" has possibly the most Journey sounding chorus I've ever heard.
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Postby Saint John » Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:21 pm

JeremyP wrote:[quote="saint John]

Muddled as far as production quality...something that wasn't really his fault. However, I just never thought he had that clear, "in your face" voice that Perry did. I grew up singing Journey songs because I learned the lyrics from repititious listening. Many of Augeri's songs, live included, seemed impossible to decipher the lyrics. His voice just wasn't clear to me. Additionally, his era of music didn't have the "catchy" choruses that Perry's era did. Higher Place came close, but that's the only one I can think of.


I understand what you're saying. I've heard that before from people. I've never really experienced it, but I acknowledge that you do. Plus, Perry was working the whole enunciation thing. "She needed so much mo-ah, than I could give...."

As far as the catchiness of the choruses....(or chori :P ) I am all about catchiness. If I feel a song or a band doesn't have the required hooks to maintain my interest, I am out.

I have to say that the chorus of "Signs of Life" has possibly the most Journey sounding chorus I've ever heard.[/quote]


Good, valid points. And yes, Signs Of Life does indeed have a pretty cool chorus.

PS "chori" was funny as hell!
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Postby JeremyP » Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:36 pm

Good, valid points. And yes, Signs Of Life does indeed have a pretty cool chorus.

PS "chori" was funny as hell!


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Postby ArnelRox » Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:42 pm

JeremyP wrote: I have to say that the chorus of "Signs of Life" has possibly the most Journey sounding chorus I've ever heard.


Most Journey sounding compared to all the post-Perry hits? Hmm. To me, A Better Life would be the one????

P.S. Still waiting for those clip comparisons.
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Postby JeremyP » Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:54 pm

JourneyRox wrote:
Most Journey sounding compared to all the post-Perry hits? Hmm. To me, A Better Life would be the one????

P.S. Still waiting for those clip comparisons.


Yeah, "A Better Life" is really Journey sounding, I agree. I just think that SOL is moreso.

I'm freeing hard drive space for the clips right now. I'm gonna inlcude Perry singing a phrase, then Augeri, and (when I can) JSS. These things are so fun to do.
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:05 pm

Journeyrox,

I Love you, you know that baby, but.....

there was one song, for whatever reason Perry didn't do justice to.

Ask the Lonely.

Am I saying Fraudgeri did it better? Hell no. But the slow down and the piano arraingement was much better. They played it way too fast under SP.
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Postby YoungJRNYfan » Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:07 pm

It seems like Augeri sung with more of an accent, and that tied into many of the songs that were sung, Perry era, and the Augeri era. Like Deano mentioned Ask the Lonely, for S.A it would come out, "Yew Juss ast the lonelaay" or somewhere along those lines. It's just how a certain singer brings their own qualities to a song.
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Postby Carrington » Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:11 pm

donnaplease wrote:
JeremyP wrote:
I do agree about the songs being too much for him night after night, as I think they were for Perry. Those songs have vocals which are verrry high and extremely demanding. To consistantly hit every single note as they're sung on the albums night after night on a months-long tour would be super human and I haven't heard the Journey frontman yet who could do it.
Lou Gramm has mentioned that it's been hard for him to sing the songs the way they're sung on the record, and we all know what an amazing voice he's been in the classic rock scene.

I feel like some think, "If it ain't Perry, it ain't good." I don't wanna put words into anybody's mouth so please correct me if that's what I'm doing.


Actually, Journey did have a frontman who could do it. I don't happen to believe it was the music that has kept SP from performing, although it is a well-known fact that his voice did become lower over the years. Of course, he didn't have to sing the same songs over and over again, because their albums were successful enough that they didn't have to rely on the same 'dirty dozen' songs. For those of you who were fortunate enough to see the SP-era Journey in concert (lucky bastards!!! :evil: ), am I right about this????? Please correct me if I am wrong.

BTW, I happen to really love his lower range, sometimes I think I like it better than his early 80's sound... :)




You are not wrong..........I saw Perry/Journey 4 times through 81-86, 3 albums worth of material to work with and as one would expect, Perry was brilliant in every show......did his register change from Escape to ROR, maybe, but the key point is this..........




it's still Perry singing Perry/Journey songs.......
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Postby JeremyP » Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:18 pm

Ok, here be the first one.

Let me know if it's better to post these things in seperate posts, or just come back and edit them into the original one.

This is from the first chorus of "Open Arms". It's always irked me how Perry would hold the same note on "oooopen aaaarms" instead of singing it like on the album. I realize that it's very hard to get it exactly that way live though.

Anyway, this from the first chorus on the Perry version, and then the Augeri version.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XDTRD5TT
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Postby ArnelRox » Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:37 pm

Rockin'Deano wrote:Journeyrox,

I Love you, you know that baby, but.....

there was one song, for whatever reason Perry didn't do justice to.

Ask the Lonely.

Am I saying Fraudgeri did it better? Hell no. But the slow down and the piano arraingement was much better. They played it way too fast under SP.


Ok I'll give u that much. Perry never sang ATL well as well live as the studio version. But he fucking sang every single other song BETTER than the studio version. & I still don't think SA's version of ATL was better than Perry & from the sounds of it, nor do u. That's all I was saying. I wanna hear ONE song SA nailed better than Perry. There isn't one that I've ever heard. Perry was the best. Even u admit that Dean baby, right?

BTW, I love u too, man ur the best. I love Lula as well. U two are one heck of a couple. Don't EVER change for anyone, ok?
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:40 pm

Susie, I agree 100% with your post.

By the way, next year in Canada is the BIG day. You are invited.
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Postby YoungJRNYfan » Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:42 pm

JourneyRox wrote:
Rockin'Deano wrote:Journeyrox,

I Love you, you know that baby, but.....

there was one song, for whatever reason Perry didn't do justice to.

Ask the Lonely.

Am I saying Fraudgeri did it better? Hell no. But the slow down and the piano arraingement was much better. They played it way too fast under SP.


Ok I'll give u that much. Perry never sang ATL well as well live as the studio version. But he fucking sang every single other song BETTER than the studio version. & I still don't think SA's version of ATL was better than Perry & from the sounds of it, nor do u. That's all I was saying. I wanna hear ONE song SA nailed better than Perry. There isn't one that I've ever heard. Perry was the best. Even u admit that Dean baby, right?

BTW, I love u too, man ur the best. I love Lula as well. U two are one heck of a couple. Don't EVER change for anyone, ok?


You can put God himself in there to sing Journey songs, and he wouldn't even come close to singing those songs as good as Steve Perry did. Steve Perry is a legend and is no force to be compared to, it simply just isn't fair. Augeri sang the songs his way, he had to since he lacked the vocal power and energy S.P had, but who does. Steve A. had no choice but to butcher his voice to land the lead role. Steve Perry is a mother fucker and a vocal demon. That's why SOMEDAY Perry and Journey will reunite one more time. Too much money to be made.
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Postby ArnelRox » Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:49 pm

JeremyP wrote:Ok, here be the first one.

Let me know if it's better to post these things in seperate posts, or just come back and edit them into the original one.

This is from the first chorus of "Open Arms". It's always irked me how Perry would hold the same note on "oooopen aaaarms" instead of singing it like on the album. I realize that it's very hard to get it exactly that way live though.

Anyway, this from the first chorus on the Perry version, and then the Augeri version.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XDTRD5TT


Ok we're gonna do this one chorus of one performance? Damn. We could be here all night. U need to name ur shows. I don't remember how to make clips & too many wines tonite ain't gonna help me. But I have let's see...at least 8 or 9 live versions of Perry doing Open Arms that I could upload & they will kick Augeri's ass wide open. Even on the one u uploaded, Augeri sound nasal & like he's just singing. To me, Perry is feeling it big time.
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Postby JeremyP » Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:09 pm

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Ok we're gonna do this one chorus of one performance? Damn. We could be here all night. U need to name ur shows. I don't remember how to make clips & too many wines tonite ain't gonna help me. But I have let's see...at least 8 or 9 live versions of Perry doing Open Arms that I could upload & they will kick Augeri's ass wide open. Even on the one u uploaded, Augeri sound nasal & like he's just singing. To me, Perry is feeling it big time.


I was being very specific in the example regarding exactly what I felt was superior in Augeri's performance. Namely, what I perceived to be the more accurate vocal rendition of the chorus. When you refer to Perry feeling it, that's the kind of intangible thing that doesn't always come across to everyone the same way. Kind of like when bands are recording and they talk about the first take having a certain "magic" or "feel" that a later, more technically accurate take doesn't have.

Hence my earlier statement that we'll probably hear things differently. But oh well, this is fun :)

Perry clip is from Greatest Hits Live, which is the same as the Houston dvd and the Greatest Hits dvd, but mixed a tad differently. (Not by me, by Kevin Shirley :P )

Augeri clip is from the Vegas dvd.

I didn't think it was really fair to either guy to use non-soundboard stuff because of sometimes dodgy bootleg quality, but I can if you want. It's just that nobody can go, "Oh, that was just a bad recording" if it's soundboard.

If you want to go whole songs I can do that, but not tonight, I'm too sleepy. :P

Here's one more that I was about to send. It's "Wheel" from GH Live and Vegas dvd. Don't you find Perry's voice to be kind of warbly here whereas Augeri's is more smooth? Steve A. just has a more pleasing-to-my-ears sound on this stuff. *shrugs*

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E4MWBW9A

I'm hittin' the hay, see you all tomorrow, hope everyone gets a good nights rest. :)
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Postby ArnelRox » Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:13 pm

JeremyP wrote: Augeri clip is from the Vegas dvd.


Ok but that's pro-tooled. I have an actual audience boot of that show somewhere & it's waaaaaay different so that's not a fair comparison anyway.

JeremyP wrote:Here's one more that I was about to send. It's "Wheel" from GH Live and Vegas dvd. Don't you find Perry's voice to be kind of warbly here whereas Augeri's is more smooth? Steve A. just has a more pleasing-to-my-ears sound on this stuff. *shrugs*


I'll download & listen but remember, GH Live is LIVE. Vegas DVD is pro-tooled & not the same as the actual LIVE version. That's important to remember.
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Postby YoungJRNYfan » Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:15 pm

My mom is a 50's era fan, so she doesn't know too much about Journey. Since most of the songlist on my computer is Journey, I got her hooked on them now. Seperate Ways is her favorite song to date now, and I occasionly switch From Perry's studio version to Augeri's LIVE DVD. She likes S.A better because she thinks Steve Perry has a "Squeeky" voice. I tried explaining to her who Steve Perry is but she won't bother to listen to me as she says, "I like the guy in the red leather pants, love his voice, lower and easier on the ears."

I can see where she is comming from, but that's just a person listening for a sound. People who know music know that S.P's voice is really legendary and both singers certainly have their own taste.
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