Steve Augeri : The Arrival Interview Revisited

[Granny]

I might also add that Steve A's career was given a huge boost by his joiniong Journey. No way he would have earned the same money had he been with anyone else or a solo artist.

Andrew, you are right on the money with that statement...I never thought he was that good, just an instrument to sing Perry's songs and have a band to listen to...at least there was still Journey, I'll give him that much...Granny

[Mandi]

Hi Carol,

I know you aren't much of an Augeri supporter, and that's fine, but I am just wondering if you have heard anything from the Tall Stories cd? Steve did an awesome job (IMO) with that cd and it is from 1991. I know you don't like him with Journey but maybe you would consider his talent differently if you heard him do his own songs?

Just wondering. Tall Stories is hard to track down, but if you are interested, just pm me. If I knew how to download clips like everyone else does, I would. Sorry, I am not very savvy with the computer.

Regards
Mandi

[ohsherrie]

[Steve was handed possibly the hardest job in music and against what many predicted, helped get Journey into a new phase of their career - touring without Mr. Perry.

Not sure anyone can really argue that point. I said from the beginning that Augeri was stepping into an absolute IMPOSSIBLE position. I mean...would you want to replace Perry and sing mostly songs that he wrote or co-wrote and then made famous with his one of a kind voice? I certainly wouldn't have signed on for that gig, for all the money under the sun! That said, I trust Augeri is a bright guy and knew what he was walking into. I'm guessing he was well aware of who Journey was and the legacy of Journey and Perry, before agreeing to step in.

I think Jeff is also stepping into an impossible situation. Even though many will say he's replacing Augeri and not Perry, he is still ultimately replacing Perry and singing Perry's music. I think a huge thing in Jeff's favor is he looks VERY different than Perry and in my opinion, really sounds nothing at all like Perry, from what I can tell. Then again, the more I listened to Augeri, the less I thought he sounded anything like Perry, either. Let's just hope they at least get this announcement out, as the waiting seems kind of crazy, especially considering they are about to release the worst-kept secret, EVER!


John from Boston

Great post!

Augeri certainly did step into an impossible position, and then he didn't meet the standard. I never thought he sounded like Perry at all. IMO he always sounded like someone trying to sound like Perry without the voice to do so.

I think the biggest thing in Jeff's favor is that he isn't trying to sound like Perry at all. He's singing the songs with his voice and with a few Perryisms thrown in as a tribute to Perry.

The truth is out there(yes Mulder it is ) for anyone to see if they're willing to accept it. The problem seems to be that one of the principle players isn't willing to accept it and his "wiggle team" won't accept it until he does.

[Vladan]

Well as a Journey album Arrival is average, or not very good, but as a stand alone album it's not too bad in my opinion. I don't know why Steve Augeri was chosen originally to front Journey, when JSS could of been there or another excellent singer. Steve Augeri looked good, but as for anything else - for me sounds just average. I don't buy into it, and I never has been convinced. But with JSS at the helm, I am convinced this guy can give the classics justice. I am also one of those fans who wished Journey called it quits 20 years ago, that's how I feel. Perry's gone, why the hell bother.

Forget Steve Augeri, and remember Steve Perry.

[fred_journeyman]

For the record, Fred is dead wrong (in spite of his college degree comments) that your thread was met with resistance because others "didn't agree" with what you posted. With all of Fred's intellect, he should have been astute enough to understand that there wasn't really much to not "agree" with. You simply posted an interview with Augeri talking to Drew. The reality is that most people know you and your act, so that's why it was meant with some resistance. Also, for what it's worth, I have no desire to read interviews with Neal, Jon, or any other member of Journey from 5 years ago...5 years was a lifetime ago and really has NOTHING at all to do with what is going on in Journey today. Go post that interview in "Precious Time", Rich. You know...the forum devoted to past members of Journey, where it belongs!


John from Boston

Hi John,

Thanks for correcting "the record." I'm very aware that what Rich posted and WHY he posted it is open to interpretation.

The reality though for me is simple - if people are bothered by what Rich posts, then instead of spending so much time arguing with Rich, why not just let the thread go to bottom of the forum? The reason? Because people LIKE to argue. It's THAT simple. Give 'em a chance to get all heated up and they go for it! Yeah baby! It's more fun. It's a chance to show your mettle. Whoo hoo!

No one is going to change Rich's opinion about anything. Moreover, no one is going to "prove" beyond doubt WHY he posts WHAT he posts here. It's absurd to think that this CAN happen.

I don't care if Rich posts here. He and I have had our major share of disagreements on BT. His presence doesn't bother me. NO ONE's presence here bothers me anymore (or even the WAY they post). The only thing that I find incredibly funny is that for all the back and forth posting, NOTHING is accomplished. Not ONE thing, except of course people trying to outdo each other with new posts. The thread very quickly degenerates into hate-filled spew and everyone sits back, proud of how they have defended the board in Andrew's absence.

Who gives a rip?

[fred_journeyman]

I can't speak for NJT Fred but it's Rich's thinly veiled motive and his method that really irked me. He wanted to start a "rah rah for Stevie Awesome" thread here to stir people up and start a fight on this board. He thought he could come out of it looking innocent and righteous to Andrew by using one of his own interviews to do it.

Hey Sherrie,

I'm not disagreeing with you. You could be 100% right. BUT, I was responding to Wyngz' remark about how ANGRY people get here over Rich's initial post in this thread. I'm looking back to last week at my own reaction to some things, and I am STILL scratching my head as to why - for a few minutes - I got angry over the other stuff. It fails to make sense to me.

Do you read what people are saying in this thread? All because Rich posted an old interview about Augeri. Sure, he may be doing that to get things riled up over here. If he is, he is. Does anyone actually think that by goading him and getting on his case, he's either 1) going to admit it, or 2) change his opinion about posting something like this again? No.

There is also the possibility that he just felt like posting it. I've posted things from an honest standpoint before and it's been taken so hugely out of context and met with derision and verbal assault, you're left going "Huh?!"

The way people are reacting to the initial post in this thread is what makes it worth reading.

[ohsherrie]

Well as a Journey album Arrival is average, or not very good, but as a stand alone album it's not too bad in my opinion. I don't know why Steve Augeri was chosen originally to front Journey, when JSS could of been there or another excellent singer. Steve Augeri looked good, but as for anything else - for me sounds just average. I don't buy into it, and I never has been convinced. But with JSS at the helm, I am convinced this guy can give the classics justice. I am also one of those fans who wished Journey called it quits 20 years ago, that's how I feel. Perry's gone, why the hell bother.

Forget Steve Augeri, and remember Steve Perry.

I agree with every word of this post. In fact, I could have written it if you hadn't said Augeri looked good.

[Enigma869]

Thanks for correcting "the record." I'm very aware that what Rich posted and WHY he posted it is open to interpretation.

The reality though for me is simple - if people are bothered by what Rich posts, then instead of spending so much time arguing with Rich, why not just let the thread go to bottom of the forum? The reason? Because people LIKE to argue. It's THAT simple. Give 'em a chance to get all heated up and they go for it! Yeah baby! It's more fun. It's a chance to show your mettle. Whoo hoo!

No one is going to change Rich's opinion about anything. Moreover, no one is going to "prove" beyond doubt WHY he posts WHAT he posts here. It's absurd to think that this CAN happen.

I don't care if Rich posts here. He and I have had our major share of disagreements on BT. His presence doesn't bother me. NO ONE's presence here bothers me anymore (or even the WAY they post). The only thing that I find incredibly funny is that for all the back and forth posting, NOTHING is accomplished. Not ONE thing, except of course people trying to outdo each other with new posts. The thread very quickly degenerates into hate-filled spew and everyone sits back, proud of how they have defended the board in Andrew's absence.

Who gives a rip?

Hey Fred...

For once, I find myself actually agreeing with you! I guess there is some wisdom to not respond to someone's posting and just let it fall out of sight. That said, Rich and I have been going back and forth on BT for years, and I've ALWAYS called him out on his antics! Sorry...just the way it is! Also, for the record, I've NEVER tried to change Rich's opinion about ANYTHING! I not an evangelist, so changing a person's opinion has never been remotely important to me. This would be a VERY boring world if we all felt exactly the same. One of the main reasons I stopped posting on the other site was that I simply got tired of reading the same opinions over and over again, because that's all that site allows for! Rich is free to express his opinions, as is everyone else. When he comes here simply to stir the shit, as he was earlier, I will call him out EVERY time. That said, feel free to come to his defense, anytime you wish. Sorry to say it, but he's probably one of the few people in this world who I wouldn't stop and help if he was stuck on the road! I couldn't stand the "H2H" quiz, on the way to the service station

John from Boston

[ohsherrie]

I can't speak for NJT Fred but it's Rich's thinly veiled motive and his method that really irked me. He wanted to start a "rah rah for Stevie Awesome" thread here to stir people up and start a fight on this board. He thought he could come out of it looking innocent and righteous to Andrew by using one of his own interviews to do it.

Hey Sherrie,

I'm not disagreeing with you. You could be 100% right. BUT, I was responding to Wyngz' remark about how ANGRY people get here over Rich's initial post in this thread. I'm looking back to last week at my own reaction to some things, and I am STILL scratching my head as to why - for a few minutes - I got angry over the other stuff. It fails to make sense to me.

Do you read what people are saying in this thread? All because Rich posted an old interview about Augeri. Sure, he may be doing that to get things riled up over here. If he is, he is. Does anyone actually think that by goading him and getting on his case, he's either 1) going to admit it, or 2) change his opinion about posting something like this again? No.

There is also the possibility that he just felt like posting it. I've posted things from an honest standpoint before and it's been taken so hugely out of context and met with derision and verbal assault, you're left going "Huh?!"

The way people are reacting to the initial post in this thread is what makes it worth reading.

You're absolutely right Fred. I regret even responding to his post, but I let my initial reaction to it override my common sense. It would have been much better if we had all just ignored it. We gave it a life that it didn't deserve. That happens to all of us on messageboards.

[ArnelRox]

Hi Carol,

I know you aren't much of an Augeri supporter, and that's fine, but I am just wondering if you have heard anything from the Tall Stories cd? Steve did an awesome job (IMO) with that cd and it is from 1991. I know you don't like him with Journey but maybe you would consider his talent differently if you heard him do his own songs?

Just wondering. Tall Stories is hard to track down, but if you are interested, just pm me. If I knew how to download clips like everyone else does, I would. Sorry, I am not very savvy with the computer.

Regards
Mandi

I agree w/u Mandi. There is one song on that CD I think is killer work: Sister of Mercy. I would never have gone to see Journey w/Augeri if my friend hadn't given me that CD to listen to. Everyone should hear that song.

[fred_journeyman]

Hey Fred...

For once, I find myself actually agreeing with you! I guess there is some wisdom to not respond to someone's posting and just let it fall out of sight. That said, Rich and I have been going back and forth on BT for years, and I've ALWAYS called him out on his antics! Sorry...just the way it is! Also, for the record, I've NEVER tried to change Rich's opinion about ANYTHING! I not an evangelist, so changing a person's opinion has never been remotely important to me. This would be a VERY boring world if we all felt exactly the same. One of the main reasons I stopped posting on the other site was that I simply got tired of reading the same opinions over and over again, because that's all that site allows for! Rich is free to express his opinions, as is everyone else. When he comes here simply to stir the shit, as he was earlier, I will call him out EVERY time. That said, feel free to come to his defense, anytime you wish. Sorry to say it, but he's probably one of the few people in this world who I wouldn't stop and help if he was stuck on the road! I couldn't stand the "H2H" quiz, on the way to the service station

John from Boston

John, I think we've agreed once before this...

If I was somehow giving you the impression that you should NOT take Rich on, or anyone else, my apologies because that wasn't the case. I was simply making observations. It's just really interesting to watch some people become thoroughly unglued (no one in particular because that changes with the thread) over a topic. Call out anyone you want, John (or Sherrie). That's yours to decide.

You know what's funny to me? I've been doing some research and spending some time reading back through the archives here (and on other forums not even related to Journey or music) and here's what I've found: the same opinions are often stated...over and over again. Not just by me on this forum (as some will quickly point out), but by nearly everyone on nearly any forum. It seems to be because most of the "conversations" get stuck in ruts and people wind up posting the same thing. Then someone like Deano comes along and posts something totally outrageous and people generally like it simply because it's outrageous and therefore unique or different from what is normally posted. Because of that, many gravitate toward that type of posting. It's out of the norm and gives them a chance to react to something different.

One of the problems with BT, like you stated, is what can be posted over there and how it can be posted. Because of that, there's not a great deal of creativity, and there are often periods of silence between worthwhile threads. People get really tired of that type of posting because it becomes too namby-pamby and predictable. BUT, give them a thread they can sink their teeth into (and if it becomes fiery and full of anger, that's even better) and the juices REALLY get flowing! Like I said, people seem to latch onto those because it sparks their creativity and can be a lot of fun for those involved. (Sorry, don't mean to preach - I'm talking to myself just as much as to anyone else.)

Here, the difference is that anyone can say what they want to say as often as they want to say it and just about everyone here DOES. That's neither good, nor bad - I'm just making an observation about what is.

How cool would it be to do a really indepth documentary on the social aspects of posting on Internet forums? I mean, I'm doing a "short" which is almost nearly written now, but that's going to be a bit of a parody. Imagine talking to people the world over - owners of forums and those who post on them - to find out what it's all about for THEM?

[fred_journeyman]

You're absolutely right Fred. I regret even responding to his post, but I let my initial reaction to it override my common sense. It would have been much better if we had all just ignored it. We gave it a life that it didn't deserve. That happens to all of us on messageboards.

Sherrie, please don't think that I was trying to tell you how to post or how often, or in response to whom. That's for you to decide. I was simply making an observation and that's all. I saw myself in some of the responses in that thread and I didn't like it.

[AR]

Forget Steve Augeri, and remember Steve Perry.

I can not do that. My wife and I chose "With Your Love" as our wedding song. She wanted a bunch of shitty Shania Twain songs (hottie - granted) or some other country stuff. I wanted a song from a band I grew up with, but not something too well known. Our wedding was so fucking close to the "Arrival" release date that the stupid fucking DJ was telling us he couldn't use our advance copy. I told the fucker he was fired if he didn't play it. What a cocksucker!!!!!!!

In the end, the song came out, and the DJ did well. Played my Journey and Kiss selections and no annoying electric slide horseshit.

Not forgetting Augeri. Liked him. Just pissed off and think he should be selling me Levi's these days. That's all.

[Enigma869]

Forget Steve Augeri, and remember Steve Perry.

I can not do that. My wife and I chose "With Your Love" as our wedding song.

And to think I told my wife that we were probably the only people on the planet who had "With Your Love" as our wedding song, AR!!!! VERY obscure song, but I thought it was a well-done Journey ballad by Augeri. And hell, it's one of the only songs I've ever heard that was written for a wedding day (at least, that's what I got out of the lyrics)! For the record, I actually had to give our DJ "Arrival", as he told me he couldn't find it anywhere!

Because I'm a much bigger Perry fan, the night had to be wrapped up with "Faithfully". One final note...I also banned the dopey "Electric Slide" from our wedding! It just annoys me too much to see a bunch of slobbering drunks who can't dance make complete buffoons out of themselves

John from Boston

[Rockindeano]

you believe there might have been something going on when it was a tape and not Live vocals, that Steve Augeri is a decent man and did bring something positive to this band.

Is Steve's cock in your mouth? Because I can't discern any fucking thing you say
This statement is a contradiction unto itself. How is a man decent if he is knowingly deceiving thousands nightly, and then goes and cashes a check he in no way earned?

but still had the guts to take on the job.

Guts? Dude, he made a few millin in eight years. Where is the "guts: in that?

Why? Because he respected the music, the band and the legacy of Steve Perry within the band.

This is absolutely the funniest thing I have ever read on MR.

He respected the music? He even thanked Perry for the inspiration on a CD, and then promptly went out and mimed his way to the Bank. Respect? You are fucked up, Rich. I know you won't respond to me. You never do. You always wait til I am out on the road or flying somewhere. Get this Rich, you twat; I will get you. I will always fucking get you and your horseshit you spew I will throw right back in your face.

[Liam]

Forget Steve Augeri, and remember Steve Perry.

I can not do that. My wife and I chose "With Your Love" as our wedding song.

And to think I told my wife that we were probably the only people on the planet who had "With Your Love" as our wedding song, AR!!!! VERY obscure song, but I thought it was a well-done Journey ballad by Augeri. And hell, it's one of the only songs I've ever heard that was written for a wedding day (at least, that's what I got out of the lyrics)! For the record, I actually had to give our DJ "Arrival", as he told me he couldn't find it anywhere!

Because I'm a much bigger Perry fan, the night had to be wrapped up with "Faithfully". One final note...I also banned the dopey "Electric Slide" from our wedding! It just annoys me too much to see a bunch of slobbering drunks who can't dance make complete buffoons out of themselves

John from Boston

I think I'll ask my future wife (if that ever happens) if we could have "One More" as our wedding song.
I think we'd get an annulment right after the reception for that.

[Clasicrockldy]

Deano,

I have been kind of blowing up the newly created "Back Talk" forum the past few days about Augeri, and his lack of manners for saying "Thank you" for all the well wishes, etc........ Man, do they come out of the woodwork ! lmao

[Mrs H]

Deano,

I have been kind of blowing up the newly created "Back Talk" forum the past few days about Augeri, and his lack of manners for saying "Thank you" for all the well wishes, etc........ Man, do they come out of the woodwork ! lmao

If you need a job or something else to do to occupy your precious time on this earth, I hear than Dean O knows some high ranking people in Lowe's, maybe he can give them a call.

[Clasicrockldy]

Deano,

I have been kind of blowing up the newly created "Back Talk" forum the past few days about Augeri, and his lack of manners for saying "Thank you" for all the well wishes, etc........ Man, do they come out of the woodwork ! lmao

If you need a job or something else to do to occupy your precious time on this earth, I hear than Dean O knows some high ranking people in Lowe's, maybe he can give them a call.

Oh do shut the fuck up. Augeri was caught. Augeri hasn't any manners to thank his devoted fans for all the well wishes, etc. Too many fuck ups in my book.

[Andrew]

Ok, ENOUGH.

No more back and forth fighting from anyone please.

[Saint John]

Deano,

I have been kind of blowing up the newly created "Back Talk" forum the past few days about Augeri, and his lack of manners for saying "Thank you" for all the well wishes, etc........ Man, do they come out of the woodwork ! lmao

If you need a job or something else to do to occupy your precious time on this earth, I hear than Dean O knows some high ranking people in Lowe's, maybe he can give them a call.

Very original.

[Deb]

Forget Steve Augeri, and remember Steve Perry.

I can not do that. My wife and I chose "With Your Love" as our wedding song.

And to think I told my wife that we were probably the only people on the planet who had "With Your Love" as our wedding song, AR!!!! VERY obscure song, but I thought it was a well-done Journey ballad by Augeri. And hell, it's one of the only songs I've ever heard that was written for a wedding day (at least, that's what I got out of the lyrics)! For the record, I actually had to give our DJ "Arrival", as he told me he couldn't find it anywhere!

Because I'm a much bigger Perry fan, the night had to be wrapped up with "Faithfully". One final note...I also banned the dopey "Electric Slide" from our wedding! It just annoys me too much to see a bunch of slobbering drunks who can't dance make complete buffoons out of themselves

John from Boston

I think I'll ask my future wife (if that ever happens) if we could have "One More" as our wedding song.
I think we'd get an annulment right after the reception for that.

LMAO, it beats our wedding song '86.......Keep on Loving you (Reo Speedwagon)....how 80s could you get.

[Mrs H]

Andrew, that is hilarious.
This place is notorious for breeding volatility.
When did it change?

[Rockindeano]

Deano,

I have been kind of blowing up the newly created "Back Talk" forum the past few days about Augeri, and his lack of manners for saying "Thank you" for all the well wishes, etc........ Man, do they come out of the woodwork ! lmao

If you need a job or something else to do to occupy your precious time on this earth, I hear than Dean O knows some high ranking people in Lowe's, maybe he can give them a call.

You are completely moronic. Keep on praying for the Wiggler. God ain't listening. God is pissed. God is a Journey fan and was frankly disgusted as fuck at last years shenanigans.

[ArnelRox]

LMAO, it beats our wedding song '86.......Keep on Loving you (Reo Speedwagon)....how 80s can you get.

But the big question is: did u (keep on loving him)? If u did, then it's cool.

[Deb]

LMAO, it beats our wedding song '86.......Keep on Loving you (Reo Speedwagon)....how 80s can you get.

But the big question is: did u (keep on loving him)? If u did, then it's cool.

Nope, divorcing, but friendly.

[ArnelRox]

LMAO, it beats our wedding song '86.......Keep on Loving you (Reo Speedwagon)....how 80s can you get.

But the big question is: did u (keep on loving him)? If u did, then it's cool.

Nope, divorcing, but friendly.

Awwww. I'm sorry. I know the feeling!

[Moose]

Ok, ENOUGH.

No more back and forth fighting from anyone please.

right, that might happen

[Rockindeano]

The artistry is flowing from my brain and heart, merging in my wrists and flowing onto the keyboard. These stupid asses bring the fire out of me. Fuck, I cannot deal with this idiocy.

[r@y]

Andrew, that is hilarious.
This place is notorious for breeding volatility.
When did it change?

Oh, puh-leezz....

What are you, 8 yrs old..? Or just feeling that way....?




Ray