Augeri out due to vocal illness, but launching new solo CD?

[roknroseville]

Hey,
If it wasn't for Augeris songs The Generation cd would of totally sucked....
J Cains songs ( aside from Every generation ) weren't his best!
Still i look forward to a new Journey cd ( i have nothing against JSS ) In fact i have all his cds , side projects , dvds etc..
Will see what the new year brings....

[larryfromnextdoor]

J Cains songs ( aside from Every generation ) weren't his best!

said a mouthful there man!!

[Saint John]

Hey,
If it wasn't for Augeris songs The Generation cd would of totally sucked....
J Cains songs ( aside from Every generation ) weren't his best!
Still i look forward to a new Journey cd ( i have nothing against JSS ) In fact i have all his cds , side projects , dvds etc..
Will see what the new year brings....

The generations CD DID suck BECAUSE of Augeri's songs. I hated Ross's song, Neal's remake and Jon's song too. That album was terrible. Butterfly and Believe? Yuck.

[Deb]

it takes a BIG man to hug another, Larry.

Smoochies!

LMAO at you two.

[whocares]

Hey,
If it wasn't for Augeris songs The Generation cd would of totally sucked....
J Cains songs ( aside from Every generation ) weren't his best!
Still i look forward to a new Journey cd ( i have nothing against JSS ) In fact i have all his cds , side projects , dvds etc..
Will see what the new year brings....

Sorry, I take the crabby comment back, you aren' crabby, you are demented. Obvisouly.

Deen's songs were THE BEST singing on Generations.

I will however agree with you that Cain's songs weren't so good. Then agin, I don't care for his "lead" singing voice.

Strungout, I'm man enough to be in touch with my fem side. It'd be nice if Lar would be a bit more thoough.

[roknroseville]

Generations sucked because of Augeris songs?
Please....... That's BS....
Songs like Better together , self defense , Knowing that you love me , Gone crazy , Harms way-wouldn't had made it onto Frontiers or Arrival......................
When the so called first single is Place in your heart you know it's not a good thing!!!
But blame it all on Steve Augeri.................

[whocares]

The Blame is on Auggie for the fact that his songs sucked. Hell for that matter so did the remake of Self Defense, and ESPECIALLY Gone Crazy. Ross doesn't belong on lead, and that song was by far the worst NON SA sung song on the CD. You ARE aware that it's a remake aren't you? Wasn't so great the first time around with Perry doing bg vox.

There's so many things wrong with Generations, even the band members say that much.

[roknroseville]

Demented? Everybody has there opinion.. I think Deen is a fantastic singer BUT ON Generations The songs he sang weren't the best............
When J Cain writes the words by himself there.......... ( Xcept Faithfully )
Sounds like he was trying to write like J Mellencamp............
I just bought his Windy city breakdown cd.. it's ok....

[larryfromnextdoor]

Demented? Everybody has there opinion.. I think Deen is a fantastic singer BUT ON Generations The songs he sang weren't the best............
When J Cain writes the words by himself there.......... ( Xcept Faithfully )
Sounds like he was trying to write like J Mellencamp............
I just bought his Windy city breakdown cd.. it's ok....

you might think of writing a review of that,, ive got 3 of cains solo cds.. uhh, yea.. ..they are fun to guitar solo over...

[roknroseville]

Yes i know Self defense is a remake I have BOTH Schon n Hammer cds...............
It's all S Augeri... Put all the blame on him.... whatever.......

[whocares]

You're reading what you want to read. I blame Auggy for writing bad material, I also blame the WHOLE band for making an overall sucky product.

[roknroseville]

That's right the whole band did it together!!!!!!!!!
I thought Arrival was a good record, Too many filler songs But at least 7 solid tunes.
The record company just dropped the ball!
I was just shocked that with all the talk of this generaations cd coming out & how this was the real journey sound They could release something so weak...............
Sounds like Neal is gonna write some hooky songs this time around..
But will there manager do anything for them?
Def Leppard got to be on tv shows like The morning show etc ... Why not Journey???

[larryfromnextdoor]

Def Leppard got to be on tv shows like The morning show etc ... Why not Journey???

uhh, dude,, another can o' worms .. your like a big can opener tonight!!

[whocares]

um, because they either didn't want to, or weren't asked? I opt for not wanting to, BECAUSE of Auggy and everything surrounding the Fiasco. Who wants to answer a bunch of questions about their lead singer lipping? btw, Arrival wasn't such a great record either. (imo)

[roknroseville]

Who knows maybe......
But even years ago aside from The Behind the music special Not much Journey on tv...
I would think there new manager Irving A???????? Would have them booked all over tv etc...
How cool would it to see them performing at this years superbowl instead of Prince....
I figure they'd have enough time for 4 songs.... what would they be??
Don't stop believin ( perfect football song ) , Lovin touchin squeezin , Stone in love , Faithfully .

[whocares]

What's wrong with Prince? At least he has a voice.

I don't want to see Jrny at the Superbowl. I'd rather the guys take time off and do their commitments that they have scheduled and then do what they are going to do, hopefully write and who knows what.

While I wnat to see more of Journey on TV, haven't really done TV promo since ROR, I don't want them whoring themselves out like the Eagles and many other acts do, just for the almighty dollar. Don't get me wrong, teh Eagles are a great band, but the regular fan can't afford a decent seat at their concert. THAT is what you get when Irving is totally behind a band FOR the money.

[larryfromnextdoor]

What's wrong with Prince? At least he has a voice.

I don't want to see Jrny at the Superbowl. I'd rather the guys take time off and do their commitments that they have scheduled and then do what they are going to do, hopefully write and who knows what.

While I wnat to see more of Journey on TV, haven't really done TV promo since ROR, I don't want them whoring themselves out like the Eagles and many other acts do, just for the almighty dollar. Don't get me wrong, teh Eagles are a great band, but the regular fan can't afford a decent seat at their concert. THAT is what you get when Irving is totally behind a band FOR the money.

what did you think of that piece where it was stated that .." irving caught a couple of soto dates.. (paraphrasing),,, man,, HH or doc mcgee would have seen them all.. too many interests and too little interest in our band.. too many "helpers" i guess..

[whocares]

Absolutely Lar, Herbie for sure would have been there for everything. Him (Irving) having two other people "in charge" of Journey, isn't working so well. IF (and that's a big IF, Irving is so behind this band, then he's better off putting his money where his mouth is and FULLY supprting the band. Not just a "few dates". That's BS!

I don't know about Doc, other than the bad stuff I've heard, more than good stuff, about him. The band NEEDS to get John Kalodner involved. Will they with him being buddy buddy with Perry the last few years? I doubt it, but smart money is on getting John involved somehow. HE would do a hell of a job promoting the band and a few hundred thousand other things that they don't have right now with current PR/mgmt in place.

[roknroseville]

Nothing wrong with Prince But there gonna be watching him closely.....
I just thought What it would n could be like with Journey playing the superbowl...
imagine millions of people singing lovin touchin squeezin in TV land...
Larry we finally agree....

[whocares]

So Prince had a few dozen sex related songs, what makes you think they'll be watching him closely? You're implying there's soemthing to worry about, like pulling a Janet Jackson. Most sporting events and the people who run them are out of touch on who people "out there" REALLY want to see. You don't get on TV sports events anymore unless you are THE popular thing right now, or are country music. (BLECH!) Oh, or unless you are irrelevant. Come to think of it, in most eyes, JRNY is just that, maybe they could be on one of those things.

Let the guys have a rest, they just got off the road a few weeks ago, let them enjoy vegging out. Like neal inacurately said - "how can you like someone if they don't go away"?

[ohsherrie]

This seemed to be a strategic blunder in the press release.

I'm sure that was part of "the deal".

Yeah, that way they don't leave it sounding like Augeri just can't sing anymore. It leaves just enough ambiguity about what the situation really is to keep his loyal fans hanging on.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Songs like Better together , self defense , Knowing that you love me , Gone crazy , Harms way-wouldn't had made it onto Frontiers or Arrival

"Self-Defense" was actually written for Frontiers and "Gone Crazy" was written for Arrival.
"Better Together" is an OK track that suffers from poor track placement on the album.
Augeri helped write it, so why r u now bashing it?
Care to make up your mind please?

I think "Out of Harm's Way" is one of Journey's strongest rock tracks in a long time.

When the so called first single is Place in your heart you know it's not a good thing!!!

Great song. Whats the problem here?

[The_Noble_Cause]

Def Leppard got to be on tv shows like The morning show etc ... Why not Journey???

The band was on the CBS Morning Show and Blind Date and Augeri's live performance embarassed the band both times.
The pro-tooled DirectTV Vegas concert sure sounded immaculate though.

[fred_journeyman]

Maybe Augeri can sing and maybe he can't. It really doesn't matter, does it? Obviously, he's unable to do any type of justice to the classics - he simply doesn't have the voice for it anymore.

As far as his own music and/or CD, more power to him if he goes into the studio and produces something that turns out to be halfway decent. It's no skin off my nose if that does or doesn't happen.

If he DOES manage to produce NEW music, I'll certainly be interested to hear what it sounds like. If I like it, I'll buy it. If not, I won't. Simple. In the meantime, I'm certainly more interested at this point to see what Journey is able to do with Jeff officially at the lead singing helm. They certainly have the potential of producing something awe-inspiring and here's hoping they do. That will at least get them half way to where I'd like to see them and if they follow through with a tour to promote/support the new music by playing at least some of it live during their concerts, then they will have crossed the finish line as far as I'm concerned.

[Jeremey]

Maybe Steve can sing, and maybe he can't - Who here knows? Has anyone heard Steve singing anytime in the past 8 months? So how can anyone say for sure? Recently it's been mentioned that he has his voice back and has been in the studio....But if he truly is recording a solo record, I am sure it will be on his own time, and he will want to make sure he sounds great to dispell all those naysayers out there. Besides, Steve doesn't owe anyone anything. Considering the circumstances surrounding his departure of the band, I wouldn't be surprised if he just needed some time to reconnect with life off the carousel.

[fred_journeyman]

Maybe Steve can sing, and maybe he can't - Who here knows? Has anyone heard Steve singing anytime in the past 8 months? So how can anyone say for sure? Recently it's been mentioned that he has his voice back and has been in the studio....But if he truly is recording a solo record, I am sure it will be on his own time, and he will want to make sure he sounds great to dispell all those naysayers out there. Besides, Steve doesn't owe anyone anything. Considering the circumstances surrounding his departure of the band, I wouldn't be surprised if he just needed some time to reconnect with life off the carousel.

I agree on all points, Jeremey.

[ohsherrie]

Maybe Augeri can sing and maybe he can't. It really doesn't matter, does it? Obviously, he's unable to do any type of justice to the classics - he simply doesn't have the voice for it anymore.

As far as his own music and/or CD, more power to him if he goes into the studio and produces something that turns out to be halfway decent. It's no skin off my nose if that does or doesn't happen.

If he DOES manage to produce NEW music, I'll certainly be interested to hear what it sounds like. If I like it, I'll buy it. If not, I won't. Simple.

I probably wouldn't buy his new CD because I'm just not that big a fan of his, but if he wants to do one and is able to I wish him luck with it.

In the meantime, I'm certainly more interested at this point to see what Journey is able to do with Jeff officially at the lead singing helm. They certainly have the potential of producing something awe-inspiring and here's hoping they do. That will at least get them half way to where I'd like to see them and if they follow through with a tour to promote/support the new music by playing at least some of it live during their concerts, then they will have crossed the finish line as far as I'm concerned.

For me they're already half way there just by having a real voice and solid performer singing the songs. A successful new CD with accompanying videos and supporting tour with TV appearances would be a slam dunk, a touchdown, a home run, and crossing the finish line by several lengths.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I probably wouldn't buy his new CD because I'm just not that big a fan of his, but if he wants to do one and is able to I wish him luck with it.

I would've bought it until I heard "Butterfly" and "Believe".
Either Steve has suffered severe mental trauma since penning Tall Stories OR he wasn't the one responsible for its triumphant glory in the first place.

[SteveForever]

Maybe Steve can sing, and maybe he can't - Who here knows? Has anyone heard Steve singing anytime in the past 8 months? So how can anyone say for sure? Recently it's been mentioned that he has his voice back and has been in the studio....But if he truly is recording a solo record, I am sure it will be on his own time, and he will want to make sure he sounds great to dispell all those naysayers out there. Besides, Steve doesn't owe anyone anything. Considering the circumstances surrounding his departure of the band, I wouldn't be surprised if he just needed some time to reconnect with life off the carousel.

I'd be curious to know what kind of PR he's going to spin and do to follow this whole drama? When is he actually going to address his fans? will it be in person or on line or what because if you read other places they are really really really upset!

[Jeremey]

Maybe Steve can sing, and maybe he can't - Who here knows? Has anyone heard Steve singing anytime in the past 8 months? So how can anyone say for sure? Recently it's been mentioned that he has his voice back and has been in the studio....But if he truly is recording a solo record, I am sure it will be on his own time, and he will want to make sure he sounds great to dispell all those naysayers out there. Besides, Steve doesn't owe anyone anything. Considering the circumstances surrounding his departure of the band, I wouldn't be surprised if he just needed some time to reconnect with life off the carousel.

I'd be curious to know what kind of PR he's going to spin and do to follow this whole drama? When is he actually going to address his fans? will it be in person or on line or what because if you read other places they are really really really upset!

I dunno. Uncle Joe Benson always seems to work for him. And at least on Fan Asylum Q&As they can screen his questions, so that might work as well. Regardless, I'd be surprised if we actually see this solo record come out next year.