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RockinDeano wrote:LarryFromNextDoor wrote:Andrew wrote:RockinDeano wrote:AR wrote:FUCK that Hall of Fame.
Alice Cooper isn't in. Kiss isn't in.
Why worry?
And neither should be. They BOTH suck.
Dean - let go of it! Any artist that have been around 30 years + does NOT suck. You may not like them because Neal and Steve were not part of their line-ups, but they do not suck.
he was just foolin
No I wasn't.
I am NOT letting go of anything, Andrew. You are making me feel like I am an obsessed Journey fan or some shit. So let me ask you Andrew and anyone else for that matter.
How in the Hell is Journey NOT in the Hall of Fame? You can't answer that without spinning, lying or both.
RockinDeano wrote:LarryFromNextDoor wrote:Andrew wrote:RockinDeano wrote:AR wrote:FUCK that Hall of Fame.
Alice Cooper isn't in. Kiss isn't in.
Why worry?
And neither should be. They BOTH suck.
Dean - let go of it! Any artist that have been around 30 years + does NOT suck. You may not like them because Neal and Steve were not part of their line-ups, but they do not suck.
he was just foolin
I won't argue Alice with you (though I could- the guy is one of the godfather's of Rock and Roll. Just because someone doesn't sing like Steve Perry doesn't mean they don't rock and aren't valid! "I'm 18"? Schools out? I never Cry?- but wait...I wan't gonna argue for Alice)...
but say what you will KISS is the most glaring omission the R and R HOF has ever made. There isn't a band out there (Journey included) that doesn't owe SOME aspect of their live performance to what KISS started in the early 70's. The Live Rock and Roll show as we know it was basically invented by these guys. And everyone from Priest to Metallica to Pearl Jam to Garth Friggin Brooks has acknowledged it...so why can;t the friggin hall of shame? WHY? Because Jann WEINER and his cronies have never liked KISS, thus they'll play hell ever getting in. And why don't they like em? Cause they were WRONG about them...they WERNE'T no talent a flash in the pan...30 + year career, tons of platnum and gold albums, over 40 million records sold in the US alone, and a standard for live performance that, in their heyday, was unmatched! And you simply can't deny the songs of their early catalogue..DEUCE? STRUTTER? BLACK FREAKIN DIAMOND???? "they suck..." Gimmie a break!
...end of tirade...
btw- I also agree the JOURNEY is a huge omission...and one I hope the see those pricks at the hall of shit rectify...
And btw- why all the hate for VR? They may have stunk up the joint last night, but shit, they're about the closest thing to a real rock band we got left...
No I wasn't.
I am NOT letting go of anything, Andrew. You are making me feel like I am an obsessed Journey fan or some shit. So let me ask you Andrew and anyone else for that matter.
How in the Hell is Journey NOT in the Hall of Fame? You can't answer that without spinning, lying or both.
7 Wishes wrote:He is the greatest frontman in the history of rock, period.
Seven Wishes wrote:"Abysmal? He's the most proactive President since Clinton, and he's bringing much-needed change for the better to a nation that has been tyrannized by the worst President since Hoover."- 7 Wishes on Pres. Obama
RedWingFan wrote:7 Wishes wrote:He is the greatest frontman in the history of rock, period.
Dude, that title belongs to Freddie Mercury. You need to have the vocals to go with the tights
whocares wrote:you didn't list any hip/hop or rap acts there, nor jazz.
I fully agree that R & B influenced rock & Roll, that's why I didn't say anything about it above. Hell, I'd even say that early folk music was a HUGE influence, especially on Springsteen. Rap didn't influence early rock & roll. Maybe the other way around, the way rap samples rock music all the time. Name some rap groups and jazz musicians and I'm not talking about Miles Davis, that influenced Rock & Roll back in the day, and maybe I'll agree it's a silly arguement. No Run DMC doesn't count either. I'm talking about back in the day, BEFORE Rap and Rock got mixed all up.
lights1961 wrote:Ronnettes were the CLASS act of the nite... Ronnie ROCKS still!! BE MY LITTLE BABY!! why did the jam session NOT do that song at the end... way beyond me.
Rick
NealIsGod wrote:RedWingFan wrote:7 Wishes wrote:He is the greatest frontman in the history of rock, period.
Dude, that title belongs to Freddie Mercury. You need to have the vocals to go with the tights
My favorite that I have seen live is Steve Whiteman of Kix.
Jeremey wrote:whocares wrote:you didn't list any hip/hop or rap acts there, nor jazz.
I fully agree that R & B influenced rock & Roll, that's why I didn't say anything about it above. Hell, I'd even say that early folk music was a HUGE influence, especially on Springsteen. Rap didn't influence early rock & roll. Maybe the other way around, the way rap samples rock music all the time. Name some rap groups and jazz musicians and I'm not talking about Miles Davis, that influenced Rock & Roll back in the day, and maybe I'll agree it's a silly arguement. No Run DMC doesn't count either. I'm talking about back in the day, BEFORE Rap and Rock got mixed all up.
Uh...Well, the only jazz musician in the HOF is Miles Davis, and the only rap group is Grandmaster Flash, so you just kind of tied my hands there, seeing as how I can't list the only 2 inductees as who may have influenced the direction of rock and roll....But let's throw Bob Marley up there. Anyone want to deny his influence on rock and roll? Or Al Green, Parliment, or Curtis Mayfield...Ask JSS if those guys may have had any influence on rock and roll...
I should make it clear that I'm not going to defend the HOF and the choices they've made, because I think it's become a bogus art house wankfest....But to say that the inductees have to fit one particular definition of rock, or fit into a tight, defined catagory just isn't very insightful. Grandmaster Flash influenced tons of rock bands. Three off the top of my head are Red Hot Chili Peppers, Rage Against The Machine, and Anthrax.
strungout wrote:lights1961 wrote:Ronnettes were the CLASS act of the nite... Ronnie ROCKS still!! BE MY LITTLE BABY!! why did the jam session NOT do that song at the end... way beyond me.
Rick
She's the one in Eddie Money's song Take Me Home Tonight isn't she? Great voice........love this song, one of my favorites from the 80s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbhXmSBlS_U
Poor Eddie, sure doesn't have JSS's moves.
whocares wrote:Jeremey wrote:whocares wrote:you didn't list any hip/hop or rap acts there, nor jazz.
I fully agree that R & B influenced rock & Roll, that's why I didn't say anything about it above. Hell, I'd even say that early folk music was a HUGE influence, especially on Springsteen. Rap didn't influence early rock & roll. Maybe the other way around, the way rap samples rock music all the time. Name some rap groups and jazz musicians and I'm not talking about Miles Davis, that influenced Rock & Roll back in the day, and maybe I'll agree it's a silly arguement. No Run DMC doesn't count either. I'm talking about back in the day, BEFORE Rap and Rock got mixed all up.
Uh...Well, the only jazz musician in the HOF is Miles Davis, and the only rap group is Grandmaster Flash, so you just kind of tied my hands there, seeing as how I can't list the only 2 inductees as who may have influenced the direction of rock and roll....But let's throw Bob Marley up there. Anyone want to deny his influence on rock and roll? Or Al Green, Parliment, or Curtis Mayfield...Ask JSS if those guys may have had any influence on rock and roll...
I should make it clear that I'm not going to defend the HOF and the choices they've made, because I think it's become a bogus art house wankfest....But to say that the inductees have to fit one particular definition of rock, or fit into a tight, defined catagory just isn't very insightful. Grandmaster Flash influenced tons of rock bands. Three off the top of my head are Red Hot Chili Peppers, Rage Against The Machine, and Anthrax.
Jeremey, I'm not trying to bust your balls here, but influencing a few bands is not influencing the Rock & Roll genre.
7 Wishes wrote:You see? The talentless progressive bands such as REM and the god-awful hacks like Patt Smith get the approval of idiots like these...I mean, this is just wrong.
JeremyP wrote:RedWingFan wrote:7 Wishes wrote:He is the greatest frontman in the history of rock, period.
Dude, that title belongs to Freddie Mercury. You need to have the vocals to go with the tights
Seconded.
7 Wishes wrote: (David Lee Crotch)He is the greatest frontman in the history of rock, period.
RedWingFan wrote:7 Wishes wrote:He is the greatest frontman in the history of rock, period.
Dude, that title belongs to Freddie Mercury. You need to have the vocals to go with the tights
RockinDeano wrote:RedWingFan wrote:7 Wishes wrote:He is the greatest frontman in the history of rock, period.
Dude, that title belongs to Freddie Mercury. You need to have the vocals to go with the tights
And you are wrong too, just not as wrong as 7.
Seven Wishes wrote:"Abysmal? He's the most proactive President since Clinton, and he's bringing much-needed change for the better to a nation that has been tyrannized by the worst President since Hoover."- 7 Wishes on Pres. Obama
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