Lora Beard-

[larryfromnextdoor]

the band should do their own version of BTM... so they can be in total control.. other bands have done it ..talk to all members, tell stories the fans dont know about.. i would buy it..

[Rick]

the band should do their own version of BTM... so they can be in total control.. other bands have done it ..talk to all members, tell stories the fans dont know about.. i would buy it..

Hell, me too! That's a great idea. Have them all get together in the same room and tell stories about each other. I'd watch that if it were 6 hours long.

[Just Mindy]

the band should do their own version of BTM... so they can be in total control.. other bands have done it ..talk to all members, tell stories the fans dont know about.. i would buy it..

I like it, Larry.

[Saint John]

the band should do their own version of BTM... so they can be in total control.. other bands have done it ..talk to all members, tell stories the fans dont know about.. i would buy it..

Great idea....not going to happen. Perry wants his private life kept secret. What happened on the road stays on the road. Besides, it would only pull them farther apart. If Journey is indeed going to move forward, they should cherish and remember the past, not live in it. Learning from your mistakes is a good idea, too. We're just not supposed to know some things. Personally, I just care about the music and the guys being happy and safe. All of them....even Augeri.

[Classic Rock]

I have always wondered about Perry's "I never felt like part of the band" comment on BTM.....was there more said before or after that part saying "why" he felt that way??? Or was only that part used for more shock value?

they definitely edited it for extra drama

That has always been my suspicion. It was probably preceded by something like "When I joined in 1978..." (or something along that type of line) or possibly followed by some kind of qualifying statement that would make the comment unimportant and less dramatic. We can't have THAT going on. Must milk drama! Must create drama where there isn't any! Whatever the rest of that comment was, we may never know, but I always try to keep those things in mind watching those kind of shows. You're only seeing what they want you see, which is usually a completely distorted version of what actually took place.

I thought Steve Perry had final editorial control?

I was surprised to be involved in the history at all. I mean, I can’t imagine – with Steve Perry having the editorial control that he had… that control, I mean geez – I wholly expected to be written out of the history when the camera crew showed up. I told the director – who really insulted my intelligence – ‘you have no editorial content credibility with Steve Perry having the final cut… And, if you saw the very first promos for VH-1 that came out, it showed Steve Perry saying, 'I never really felt like I was a part of the band.' Then it washed to me, where I'm saying, 'Yeah, that's like the Pope saying he never really felt Catholic.'…Do you know how quick that was taken out? Perry launched like an MX missile when he saw that. He went crazy. That promo was eliminated and that little segment was taken out of VH-1.

Those statements lead me to believe that if Steve Perry didn’t like how that statement came across it would have been edited or put back into context.

Unless of course Herbie is lying because he is bitter and angry.

[Playitloudforme]

I'd prefer a band edited version of BTM to be sure, but I highly doubt you'd get everyone in agreement on what was ok to air and what wasn't. At least we'd get complete concepts as opposed to the drama-ensuing cut & paste job VH1 did.

[jrnyfan@nc.rr.com]

Slightly off the topic of this post, but I've always been curious if Lora/Cyndy were in Frontiers & Beyond?

[Lora]

Slightly off the topic of this post, but I've always been curious if Lora/Cyndy were in Frontiers & Beyond?

There is one quick shot of Cyndy when they are talking about the fan club. I think they show Tim sitting behind his desk processing orders and Cyndy is sitting on the floor sorting fan mail. I was working for the fan club parttime then (and working my other job in Sacramento) and was out of town when that was filmed.

[tammy]

Slightly off the topic of this post, but I've always been curious if Lora/Cyndy were in Frontiers & Beyond?

There is one quick shot of Cyndy when they are talking about the fan club. I think they show Tim sitting behind his desk processing orders and Cyndy is sitting on the floor sorting fan mail. I was working for the fan club parttime then (and working my other job in Sacramento) and was out of town when that was filmed.

That was Cyndy? Honestly, did you have to open & read ALL those fan mail letters? What did you do with them all - I can't imagine the band kept them or did they - maybe, some. Who here wrote a fan letter to Journey back then? (I wrote my first one when I was 44!!)

[Saint John]

I have always wondered about Perry's "I never felt like part of the band" comment on BTM.....was there more said before or after that part saying "why" he felt that way??? Or was only that part used for more shock value?

they definitely edited it for extra drama

That has always been my suspicion. It was probably preceded by something like "When I joined in 1978..." (or something along that type of line) or possibly followed by some kind of qualifying statement that would make the comment unimportant and less dramatic. We can't have THAT going on. Must milk drama! Must create drama where there isn't any! Whatever the rest of that comment was, we may never know, but I always try to keep those things in mind watching those kind of shows. You're only seeing what they want you see, which is usually a completely distorted version of what actually took place.

I thought Steve Perry had final editorial control?

I was surprised to be involved in the history at all. I mean, I can’t imagine – with Steve Perry having the editorial control that he had… that control, I mean geez – I wholly expected to be written out of the history when the camera crew showed up. I told the director – who really insulted my intelligence – ‘you have no editorial content credibility with Steve Perry having the final cut… And, if you saw the very first promos for VH-1 that came out, it showed Steve Perry saying, 'I never really felt like I was a part of the band.' Then it washed to me, where I'm saying, 'Yeah, that's like the Pope saying he never really felt Catholic.'…Do you know how quick that was taken out? Perry launched like an MX missile when he saw that. He went crazy. That promo was eliminated and that little segment was taken out of VH-1.

Those statements lead me to believe that if Steve Perry didn’t like how that statement came across it would have been edited or put back into context.

Unless of course Herbie is lying because he is bitter and angry.

I might be missing something here, but are we to believe that the person whose screen name is Herbie Herbert is actually THE Herbie Herbert?

[daytrpr]

Is that Lora is my hero because when I was a twelve year old kid, the first letter I received from Journey Force was from Lora. And I decided right away that she was awesome. That was only what, 25 years ago now?

[Saint John]

Is that Lora is my hero because when I was a twelve year old kid, the first letter I received from Journey Force was from Lora. And I decided right away that she was awesome. That was only what, 25 years ago now?

Sounds to me like you're still twelve. What the fuck did you just say?

[Classic Rock]

I thought Steve Perry had final editorial control?

I was surprised to be involved in the history at all. I mean, I can’t imagine – with Steve Perry having the editorial control that he had… that control, I mean geez – I wholly expected to be written out of the history when the camera crew showed up. I told the director – who really insulted my intelligence – ‘you have no editorial content credibility with Steve Perry having the final cut… And, if you saw the very first promos for VH-1 that came out, it showed Steve Perry saying, 'I never really felt like I was a part of the band.' Then it washed to me, where I'm saying, 'Yeah, that's like the Pope saying he never really felt Catholic.'…Do you know how quick that was taken out? Perry launched like an MX missile when he saw that. He went crazy. That promo was eliminated and that little segment was taken out of VH-1.

Those statements lead me to believe that if Steve Perry didn’t like how that statement came across it would have been edited or put back into context.

Unless of course Herbie is lying because he is bitter and angry.

I might be missing something here, but are we to believe that the person whose screen name is Herbie Herbert is actually THE Herbie Herbert?

Sorry I wasn't clear. That was taken from the Castles Burning Interview:

http://members.cox.net/mrcarty/

Part One, Page 02

[Rockindeano]

Sounds to me like you're still twelve. What the fuck did you just say?

Dude stop it. I had the SAME EXACT THING typed out. You beat me to it.

[Saint John]

I thought Steve Perry had final editorial control?

I was surprised to be involved in the history at all. I mean, I can’t imagine – with Steve Perry having the editorial control that he had… that control, I mean geez – I wholly expected to be written out of the history when the camera crew showed up. I told the director – who really insulted my intelligence – ‘you have no editorial content credibility with Steve Perry having the final cut… And, if you saw the very first promos for VH-1 that came out, it showed Steve Perry saying, 'I never really felt like I was a part of the band.' Then it washed to me, where I'm saying, 'Yeah, that's like the Pope saying he never really felt Catholic.'…Do you know how quick that was taken out? Perry launched like an MX missile when he saw that. He went crazy. That promo was eliminated and that little segment was taken out of VH-1.

Those statements lead me to believe that if Steve Perry didn’t like how that statement came across it would have been edited or put back into context.

Unless of course Herbie is lying because he is bitter and angry.

I might be missing something here, but are we to believe that the person whose screen name is Herbie Herbert is actually THE Herbie Herbert?

Sorry I wasn't clear. That was taken from the Castles Burning Interview:

http://members.cox.net/mrcarty/

Part One, Page 02

Gotcha. I didn't think Herbie would post on this sight. He too busy poking pins into his Steve Perry voodoo doll.

[Rockindeano]

A little birdy told me today that the Lora would be making a trip to the Old Dominion State in May.

That is good news...She is awesome.

[Saint John]

A little birdy told me today that the Lora would be making a trip to the Old Dominion State in May.

That is good news...She is awesome.

Looking forward to meeting her. In Journey circles, she's practically celebrity status.

[tammy]

Is that Lora is my hero because when I was a twelve year old kid, the first letter I received from Journey Force was from Lora. And I decided right away that she was awesome. That was only what, 25 years ago now?

Sounds to me like you're still twelve. What the fuck did you just say?

What's wrong with what daytrpr said - I understood it? The beginning of his/her sentence is in the Re: above.

[sindee67]

Is that Lora is my hero because when I was a twelve year old kid, the first letter I received from Journey Force was from Lora. And I decided right away that she was awesome. That was only what, 25 years ago now?

Sounds to me like you're still twelve. What the fuck did you just say?

What's wrong with what daytrpr said - I understood it? The beginning of his/her sentence is in the Re: above.

DITTO!

I agree with Cyndy,

I was a little disappointed in how they edited it & highlighted all the negativity, but i wasn't surprised. the point of BTM is to attract viewers with drama & controversy - not to tell a complete, fair story.

For what it's worth..
The one GOOD thing that did come out of all this, my children at the time were very young, and because they watched that, they drug out my albums and cassettes, and, brought back a lot of memories, and are still Steve/JOURNEY fans to this day. As for Sherrie and Steve, let it go, let something in Steve's life stay sacred. If they were trying to make Mr. Perry look like the bad guy in this, I'm sorry, it backfired. My heart broke for him, so badly. Poor guy.. Why people in the position that these people were in, chose to tell their own story, and NOT JOURNEY'S, is far beyond my knowledge. That's fine, though, whatever it takes to have the DRAMA, I guess!!!!

[Ftloperry]

Sometimes it is not about the truth of something but what can be said to make it a shocker so the people will watch....sad that VH1 feels the need to make a mountain out of a mole hill with some of there BTM shows. Granted that these shows shed light on a person and bands life good or bad but they don't have to dig for dirt to make it more interesting to the viewer. Give them a little privacy.....BTM and VH1 sure did wrong with Steve and Journey oh well who am I to say I'm just a viewer.

[Perry86fan]

Sometimes it is not about the truth of something but what can be said to make it a shocker so the people will watch....sad that VH1 feels the need to make a mountain out of a mole hill with some of there BTM shows. Granted that these shows shed light on a person and bands life good or bad but they don't have to dig for dirt to make it more interesting to the viewer. Give them a little privacy.....BTM and VH1 sure did wrong with Steve and Journey oh well who am I to say I'm just a viewer.

Thanks! I just could never believe any of the crap that was being said. It's just TV and they can say or do what ever they want. I am very pro Perry but i am still a jouney fan too. I guess they could not find any dirt on them.And as for Steve & Sherrie it should be left alone we do not need to know. Thank you both L & C for being true friends to them.

[Lora]

Is that Lora is my hero because when I was a twelve year old kid, the first letter I received from Journey Force was from Lora. And I decided right away that she was awesome. That was only what, 25 years ago now?

Thanks daytrpr. And Deano & St John, too. You guys are making we want to jump into my Way Back machine to revisit those Journey Force days.

[Saint John]

Is that Lora is my hero because when I was a twelve year old kid, the first letter I received from Journey Force was from Lora. And I decided right away that she was awesome. That was only what, 25 years ago now?

Thanks daytrpr. And Deano & St John, too. You guys are making we want to jump into my Way Back machine to revisit those Journey Force days.

If that is at all possible, I would gladly lend all of my free time to starting that back up.

[sindee67]

daytrpr wrote:
Is that Lora is my hero because when I was a twelve year old kid, the first letter I received from Journey Force was from Lora. And I decided right away that she was awesome. That was only what, 25 years ago now?

Oh Dear God!
Don't remind me..I could have gone all my life without knowing how long ago it was...LOL
Seems like YESTERDAY though, doesn't it?

[Rockindeano]

Just a reminder, that Lora has a bitrthday tomorrow.

She will turn 37.

Happy Birthday LB. You can see her on my Myspace pics page.

[Saint John]

Just a reminder, that Lora has a bitrthday tomorrow.

She will turn 37.

Happy Birthday LB. You can see her on my Myspace pics page.

And I wish her a very happy birthday, as well as health and happiness.

[AR]

I'd be happy to give VH1 some comments on Steve Perry.

[Saint John]

I'd be happy to give VH1 some comments on Steve Perry.

Stay out of our "Hero Worship" thread, fucker.

[Lora]

Just a reminder, that Lora has a bitrthday tomorrow.

She will turn 37.

Happy Birthday LB. You can see her on my Myspace pics page.

awwwww. You are too sweet. 37? um, yeah, right.

[Rockindeano]

Just a reminder, that Lora has a bitrthday tomorrow.

She will turn 37.

Happy Birthday LB. You can see her on my Myspace pics page.

awwwww. You are too sweet. 37? um, yeah, right.

I AM sweet to you. Don't you forget it either. The hard part is juggling you and Cyndy. CP is always jealous it seems. That is why the pic on my Myspace has BOTH of you there.