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Postby ohsherrie » Wed May 09, 2007 2:52 am

I read that article that Matt posted several years ago. In fact I think I have a hard copy of it somewhere. It's genuine.
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Postby heardonthestreet » Wed May 09, 2007 2:53 am

I agree Carl, lol.

Here are a few from Perry but these look more like something the writer, Steve Perry would say. Is Perry this profound?




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The injury that we do to a man must be such that we need not fear his vengeance.
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There may or may not be a God or gods; the Siblings do not concern themselves with proving or disproving such a thing. By definition, gods are more powerful than men, and thus quite able to fend for themselves without help.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed May 09, 2007 3:07 am

It's bogus.
"I love almost everybody."---Rocky Balboa 1990
"Let's reform this thing.Let's go out and get some guys who want to work and go do it"--Neal Schon February, 2001
"I looked at Neal, and I just saw a guy who really wants his band back"-JCain 2/01
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Postby Matthew » Wed May 09, 2007 3:08 am

Red13JoePa wrote:It's bogus.


Stubborn as an ox! :)
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Postby ohsherrie » Wed May 09, 2007 3:12 am

Matthew wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:It's bogus.


Stubborn as an ox! :)


I couldn't find an ox smilie so how about saying he's bull headed. Image
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Postby Carlitto H@kk » Wed May 09, 2007 3:13 am

Red13JoePa wrote:It's bogus.


Clue me in, JoePa...
Why do you think this article is not genuine?
In other words, what is said in it that gets you so riled up???
Just curious...
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Postby Matthew » Wed May 09, 2007 3:13 am

ohsherrie wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:It's bogus.


Stubborn as an ox! :)


I couldn't find an ox smilie so how about saying he's bull headed. Image


That will do nicely, Sherrie.
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Postby Matthew » Wed May 09, 2007 3:14 am

Carlitto H@kk wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:It's bogus.


Clue me in, JoePa...
Why do you think this article is not genuine?
In other words, what is said in it that gets you so riled up???
Just curious...


The truth! That's what's getting Red all riled up. :)
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Postby Carlitto H@kk » Wed May 09, 2007 3:16 am

Matthew wrote:
Carlitto H@kk wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:It's bogus.


Clue me in, JoePa...
Why do you think this article is not genuine?
In other words, what is said in it that gets you so riled up???
Just curious...


The truth! That's what's getting Red all riled up. :)


Can you be more specific???

What the hell did Friga 'supposedly' say that
could've gotten old JoePa so riled up??? :lol:
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Wed May 09, 2007 3:18 am

Carlitto H@kk wrote:
Prime examples of why it's hard to really take everything band memebers say publically too seriously.
Depending on the year and current 'record'/tour/line-up/sponsor, everything is subject to change :D




True. Everything is subject to change.
Ask Perry the same question twice, you probably won't get the same answer twice.
He's a good one for that.
For example - according to him, he started singing around the house when he was 7 years old.
When later asked the same question, the answer was 3. (I don't know why but for some reason this particular example sticks out....LOL!)

They answer the questions as to what's in their head at the time their asked, not based on keeping their story straight trying to remember how they answered that question 2 years earlier. See the Neal examples above.
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Postby ohsherrie » Wed May 09, 2007 3:26 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
Carlitto H@kk wrote:
Prime examples of why it's hard to really take everything band memebers say publically too seriously.
Depending on the year and current 'record'/tour/line-up/sponsor, everything is subject to change :D




True. Everything is subject to change.
Ask Perry the same question twice, you probably won't get the same answer twice.
He's a good one for that.
For example - according to him, he started singing around the house when he was 7 years old.
When later asked the same question, the answer was 3. (I don't know why but for some reason this particular example sticks out....LOL!)

They answer the questions as to what's in their head at the time their asked, not based on keeping their story straight trying to remember how they answered that question 2 years earlier. See the Neal examples above.



In that Before They Were Stars thing he said that his family told him he was singing when he was 3 buy his earliest memory was when he was six or seven.

I think a lot of times when they seem to be contradicting themselves it's really because circumstances and their feelings about them change with time. Especially things that are said out of an emotional reaction, whether good or bad.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed May 09, 2007 3:27 am

Carlitto H@kk wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:It's bogus.


Clue me in, JoePa...
Why do you think this article is not genuine?
In other words, what is said in it that gets you so riled up???
Just curious...


It's the bogus quote that has Cain supposedly in 1989 before there WAS another singer, bemoaning Journey's inabilty to gain acceptance with someone other than Perry.
Not exactly riled up, just aware that I'm right.
"I love almost everybody."---Rocky Balboa 1990
"Let's reform this thing.Let's go out and get some guys who want to work and go do it"--Neal Schon February, 2001
"I looked at Neal, and I just saw a guy who really wants his band back"-JCain 2/01
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Postby Matthew » Wed May 09, 2007 3:30 am

Carlitto H@kk wrote:
Matthew wrote:
Carlitto H@kk wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:It's bogus.


Clue me in, JoePa...
Why do you think this article is not genuine?
In other words, what is said in it that gets you so riled up???
Just curious...


The truth! That's what's getting Red all riled up. :)


Can you be more specific???

What the hell did Friga 'supposedly' say that
could've gotten old JoePa so riled up??? :lol:



This interview is like a manifesto of Loondom! And the fact that these statements came from a senior figure in the band rather than some crazed fan on the internet must really get under the skin of the Go With The Flow Mob.

I'd guess that these are possibly the most rilesome statements:


1) "If anybody bled for a band and went out and proved who was No. 1, Stephen did."

2) "Neal Schon is Journey, don't get me wrong, but the two of us together doesn't constitute claiming the name whatsoever. We'd be jipping the people out of something that is real special."

3) "'Listen to me, Steve Perry was a lot of the face and the fire, and when he lost the direction and said, "You know, I don't know anymore," that was the point where everything should be laid to rest."

4) "He was the leader of the show who finally said, "No more!" We couldn't go on without him."

5) "Rather than talking about putting a new Journey together without Steve Perry, rather than forging ahead and trying to put a facelift on the situation like so many bands in the past have tried to do but failed miserably at, Neal and I chose to leave the legacy alive, and that's not taking anything away from the two of us. Journey is just not recognized as Journey without Steve Perry singing the music."

6) " I don't want Steve Perry's confusion to come across as the only reason Journey broke up."
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Postby Matthew » Wed May 09, 2007 3:31 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
Carlitto H@kk wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:It's bogus.


Clue me in, JoePa...
Why do you think this article is not genuine?
In other words, what is said in it that gets you so riled up???
Just curious...


It's the bogus quote that has Cain supposedly in 1989 before there WAS another singer, bemoaning Journey's inabilty to gain acceptance with someone other than Perry.
Not exactly riled up, just aware that I'm right.


Except history suggests that all of Cain's fears about continuing without Perry came true.

Although I guess that depends on how we define "acceptance"....
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed May 09, 2007 3:37 am

Odd "interview" we have here full of pro-perry rhetoric from schon/cain that echoed absolutely NOTHING they've ever said before or since. When it hit the boards no one had ever heard of its existence but loons who ripped it out like some holy grail and it came from a little old place shockingly titled "perryville"
"I love almost everybody."---Rocky Balboa 1990
"Let's reform this thing.Let's go out and get some guys who want to work and go do it"--Neal Schon February, 2001
"I looked at Neal, and I just saw a guy who really wants his band back"-JCain 2/01
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Postby ohsherrie » Wed May 09, 2007 3:48 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Odd "interview" we have here full of pro-perry rhetoric from schon/cain that echoed absolutely NOTHING they've ever said before or since. When it hit the boards no one had ever heard of its existence but loons who ripped it out like some holy grail and it came from a little old place shockingly titled "perryville"


I didn't originally get it from Perryville Joe. I read it before there even was a Perryville. I don't see why you think this is such a blasphemous article. In 1989 they didn't know where things were going or what was going to happen. You can bet the label wasn't going to go along with a Perryless Journey then if they weren't even keen on it in 1997. I think Jon may very well been feeling that way about the situation back then.
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Postby Carlitto H@kk » Wed May 09, 2007 3:49 am

Matthew wrote:This interview is like a manifesto of Loondom! And the fact that these statements came from a senior figure in the band rather than some crazed fan on the internet must really get under the skin of the Go With The Flow Mob.



Sure, but it does openly show Friga and Schonny's distaste
for Perry at that time (1989) and SHOULD piss you loons off a bit as well :lol:

Neal - "I can't deny I'm not upset with Steve Perry, I don't know what's going on in his head,
and to be honest with you, I really don't care. He's in the past as far as I'm concerned,
and it's the future I'm looking at now."


Friga - "The sheriff decided he didn't need his deputies around anymore," said Cain wryly,
"and he thinks he can run the town by himself now. We'll see."
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Postby ohsherrie » Wed May 09, 2007 3:52 am

Carlitto H@kk wrote:Sure, but it does openly show Friga and Schonny's distaste
for Perry at that time (1989) and SHOULD piss you loons off a bit as well :lol:

Neal - "I can't deny I'm not upset with Steve Perry, I don't know what's going on in his head,
and to be honest with you, I really don't care. He's in the past as far as I'm concerned,
and it's the future I'm looking at now."


Friga - "The sheriff decided he didn't need his deputies around anymore," said Cain wryly,
"and he thinks he can run the town by himself now. We'll see."


We're used to it. :wink:
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed May 09, 2007 3:55 am

The link is from "perryville (struggles to keep straight face while typing)" so, inasmuch as I don't actively seek out articles on p, I rely on the source from which it was posted here.

the thing is full of sentiments that a lot of people had never heard before, since, or from anywhere else about perry from schon/cain.

50,000 times after reading/hearing those 2 say they had no idea whay ROR was cancelled beyond the "toast" thing that stopped briefly then continued in '96, they say in this one piece in 1989 that no one has ever accepted them w/out perry and that they did understand why he pulled their plugs in '87?
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Postby Matthew » Wed May 09, 2007 4:05 am

Red13JoePa wrote:The link is from "perryville (struggles to keep straight face while typing)" so, inasmuch as I don't actively seek out articles on p, I rely on the source from which it was posted here.

the thing is full of sentiments that a lot of people had never heard before, since, or from anywhere else about perry from schon/cain.

50,000 times after reading/hearing those 2 say they had no idea whay ROR was cancelled beyond the "toast" thing that stopped briefly then continued in '96, they say in this one piece in 1989 that no one has ever accepted them w/out perry and that they did understand why he pulled their plugs in '87?


Maybe because they were feeling good about their own career outside Journey in '89 they could afford to be honest? Let's face it...they've had to spin the situation like crazy since '98.
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Postby *Laura » Wed May 09, 2007 4:13 am

Matthew wrote:Maybe because they were feeling good about their own career outside Journey in '89 they could afford to be honest?

Makes sense.Bad English was an awesome step outside Journey and a very promising path to stardom...Too bad it didn't last.

Sorry to derail the conversation... :lol: I just listened to Bad English today..What an amazing album!

Back to whatever... :wink:
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed May 09, 2007 4:39 am

Matthew wrote: Let's face it...they've had to spin the situation like crazy since '98.


No they haven't.
They fired him and moved on and on.
"I love almost everybody."---Rocky Balboa 1990
"Let's reform this thing.Let's go out and get some guys who want to work and go do it"--Neal Schon February, 2001
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Postby Deb » Wed May 09, 2007 4:50 am

Matthew wrote:
1) "If anybody bled for a band and went out and proved who was No. 1, Stephen did."



LOL, ok a little loon(acy) creeping out here, but I've always gotten a kick out of Jon calling Steve by his formal name Stephen. Hmmm, wonder if he calls Jeff, Jeffrey? :lol:

.....sorry, carry on. :wink:
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Postby Matthew » Wed May 09, 2007 5:02 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
Matthew wrote: Let's face it...they've had to spin the situation like crazy since '98.


No they haven't.
They fired him and moved on and on.


Or rather....down and down...until they reached a little uphill stretch recently...
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed May 09, 2007 5:05 am

strungout wrote:
Matthew wrote:
1) "If anybody bled for a band and went out and proved who was No. 1, Stephen did."



LOL, ok a little loon(acy) creeping out here, but I've always gotten a kick out of Jon calling Steve by his formal name Stephen. Hmmm, wonder if he calls Jeff, Jeffrey? :lol:

.....sorry, carry on. :wink:


Fear no, Deb.
Friga didn't say that.
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Postby Matthew » Wed May 09, 2007 5:06 am

strungout wrote:
Matthew wrote:
1) "If anybody bled for a band and went out and proved who was No. 1, Stephen did."



LOL, ok a little loon(acy) creeping out here, but I've always gotten a kick out of Jon calling Steve by his formal name Stephen.


Yes - I wish some posters here would show Stephen the same respect. :)
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Postby ohsherrie » Wed May 09, 2007 5:08 am

Red13JoePa wrote:The link is from "perryville (struggles to keep straight face while typing)" so, inasmuch as I don't actively seek out articles on p, I rely on the source from which it was posted here.

the thing is full of sentiments that a lot of people had never heard before, since, or from anywhere else about perry from schon/cain.

50,000 times after reading/hearing those 2 say they had no idea whay ROR was cancelled beyond the "toast" thing that stopped briefly then continued in '96, they say in this one piece in 1989 that no one has ever accepted them w/out perry and that they did understand why he pulled their plugs in '87?



And here all this time I thought that Egyptian river only ran through another Journey board. Image :P Of course nothing Jon ever said in '89 could possibly be different than what they said he '98. His worss couldn't possibly be as transposed as the numbers could they? :oops: But then, what about the way he was so supportive of Steve in '86 when ROR was released and so appalled by it in 2000? I guess 14 years is enough time to change your mind, or you spin, on something but 9 isn't. :roll:

Or maybe Joe just wants to argue. Image
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Postby Matthew » Wed May 09, 2007 5:12 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
strungout wrote:
Matthew wrote:
1) "If anybody bled for a band and went out and proved who was No. 1, Stephen did."



LOL, ok a little loon(acy) creeping out here, but I've always gotten a kick out of Jon calling Steve by his formal name Stephen. Hmmm, wonder if he calls Jeff, Jeffrey? :lol:

.....sorry, carry on. :wink:


Fear no, Deb.
Friga didn't say that.


Red - can you imagine anyone on a Queen board calling into question an interview in which May or Taylor said highly generous and respectful things about Freddie Mercury? No - because May and Taylor are ALWAYS generous. As are Queen fans.

The only reason you're so skeptical about this interview is because Cain and Schon are so consistently crappy and snide about Perry. But it really isn't too much of a stretch to believe that - 18 years ago - Cain was capable of speaking this way.
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Postby Deb » Wed May 09, 2007 5:17 am

Matthew wrote:
strungout wrote:
Matthew wrote:
1) "If anybody bled for a band and went out and proved who was No. 1, Stephen did."



LOL, ok a little loon(acy) creeping out here, but I've always gotten a kick out of Jon calling Steve by his formal name Stephen.


Yes - I wish some posters here would show Stephen the same respect. :)


That would be 'Sir Stephen', thank you very much. :wink: :lol:

BTW Red, Friga has said that. I've heard him call Steve Stephen in a few interviews. :P
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed May 09, 2007 5:24 am

Matthew wrote:The only reason you're so skeptical about this interview is because Cain and Schon are so consistently crappy and snide about Perry.


Oh :lol: is that it? Thanks for clearing that up for me.
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