Who was at the Virginia gig? Can you shed any light?

[ohsherrie]

I thought it was evident in Andrew's interview with Fridga that he wasn't too keen on JSS. I'll go back and re-read it but I didnt come away with the feeling that Fagga was convinced that JSS was right from the start.

Fro and Fagga....

It was very obvious in the interviews. Check out the differences between what Fro said and what Frig said.

[SDinVA]

"I actually got backstage for the Leesburg show. Neal seemed disinterested and was kind of a prick frankly; Ross wasn't too friendly; Jon was nowhere to be found. Dean was engaging and Jeff was quite friendly. To your question - I really couldn't tell that there were issues by their actions on or off stage. "

Were you at the Meet and Greet in Virginia? So how was Neal a prick? Just curious!!

Wasn't at the M&G - just wrangled my way back there via a few folks I knew. I live in the Leesburg area, so there were quite a few familiar faces. I've met Neal before and I must say, he was actually quite engagable - especially before the Soul Sirkus show in April 2006 @ the Birchmere. But I digress...they wheeled him in on a golf cart. A few of us approached him, we got a dirty look and off he went. Nothing more than that. Looking back - he obviously had the shit canning of Jeff on his mind OR he just didn't want to be there. I spoke with Deen and Jeff briefly and both were very cool.

Sorry I can't offer more dirt...

[ohsherrie]

I was there but I didn't meet anyone but Jeff. He and Rebecca were very sweet, friendly and gracious.

This was my first ever Journey concert, so I can't compare what was happening on stage to any other experience. I can tell you that Jeff was superb. He was electrifying. My daughter, who was never as big a Journey fan as I am but like them with Perry, left the show saying that Jeff was a better frontman than they were a band.

One thing that I've thought of since you started this thread may be of some significance, but maybe not.

Neal started playing the National Anthem earlier than the program said he would. DonnaPlease and I were among the first people to make our way down to the foot of the stage when he started. As we were walking up Jeff and Rebecca were standing to the side of the stage looking our of the tent and waving at us. We waved back and gave them more of our attention that we did Neal at first. Maybe those kinds of little things were beginning to show up more often than Neal and/or Jon liked.

I thought Neal had somewhat of an attitude on stage, but this being my first time seeing him live, and having long ago formed the opinion that he's a spoiled, socially dysfunctional, egotistical prick, I didn't really think anything of it. He did look down at the handful of us who had come down to the foot of the stage and interact a little. I thought at one point he even may have looked a little relieved that there was someone down there. He wasn't what I would have called friendly or engaging though.

He was billed to be playing both the American and British National Anthems, but he only played the American then rather abruptly left the stage.

Make of that what you will.

[Red13JoePa]

LOL, I "make of that" a biased slanted total axe to grind against Neal.

[ohsherrie]

LOL, I "make of that" a biased slanted total axe to grind against Neal.

Oh my goodness, I never would have expected you to think that.

[Red13JoePa]

LOL, I "make of that" a biased slanted total axe to grind against Neal.

Oh my goodness, I never would have expected you to think that.

LOL, well yea I know but you could at least disguise your agenda a LITTLE bit for chist sakes.

But this one was the beaute of that post:

"having long ago formed the opinion that he's a spoiled, socially dysfunctional, egotistical prick..."


BTW, mind if I ask what personal experience you base the spoiled and sociallyy dysfunctional tag on?

[NoMoreTails]

"having long ago formed the opinion that he's a spoiled, socially dysfunctional, egotistical prick..."

....I thought we were talking about Perry there for a sec...

[ohsherrie]

LOL, I "make of that" a biased slanted total axe to grind against Neal.

Oh my goodness, I never would have expected you to think that.

LOL, well yea I know but you could at least disguise your agenda a LITTLE bit for chist sakes.

But this one was the beaute of that post:

"having long ago formed the opinion that he's a spoiled, socially dysfunctional, egotistical prick..."


BTW, mind if I ask what personal experience you base the spoiled and sociallyy dysfunctional tag on?

I don't know what you think is my agenda. I don't like Neal. I've never liked Neal and I've always been pretty frank about that. It's not an agenda, it's just a fact. I think he's a hell of a guitar player and as long as he keeps his mouth shut and doesn't make dumb ass decisions that's enough.

I formed my opinion based on the way he speaks and acts in a multitude of print, radio and TV interviews as well as the F & B, the ROR Doc and the BTM. Going through frontmen like he goes through wives is indicative of a bit of problem as well.

[Red13JoePa]

LOL, I "make of that" a biased slanted total axe to grind against Neal.

Oh my goodness, I never would have expected you to think that.

LOL, well yea I know but you could at least disguise your agenda a LITTLE bit for chist sakes.

But this one was the beaute of that post:

"having long ago formed the opinion that he's a spoiled, socially dysfunctional, egotistical prick..."


BTW, mind if I ask what personal experience you base the spoiled and sociallyy dysfunctional tag on?

I don't know what you think is my agenda. I don't like Neal. I've never liked Neal and I've always been pretty frank about that. It's not an agenda, it's just a fact.
I formed my opinion based on the way he speaks and acts in a multitude of print, radio and TV interviews as well as the F & B, the ROR Doc and the BTM. Going through frontmen like he goes through wives is indicative of a bit of problem as well.

About what I thought.
No personal knowledge at all.
Going through frontmen? I don't remember you attacking schon's personal life and marriages (how do we know the women weren't going through HIM and his wallet btw?) while in mourning over the prior frontman.

Here is what it is:
Neal could solve the national debt, stablize the Gulf region and cure cancer.
All before lunch.

And people like you would not like him because perry's not in the band anymore.

You've already shown your inclination to do petty little shit like this in the name of a pro perry cause in another thread.

[ohsherrie]

About what I thought.
No personal knowledge at all.
Going through frontmen? I don't remember you attacking schon's personal life and marriages (how do we know the women weren't going through HIM and his wallet btw?) while in mourning over the prior frontman.

Here is what it is:
Neal could solve the national debt, stablize the Gulf region and cure cancer.
All before lunch.

And people like you would not like him because perry's not in the band anymore.

You've already shown your inclination to do petty little shit like this in the name of a pro perry cause in another thread.

Pulling that Perry card out constantly is just bullshit 13. I mentioned Perry in the other thread in reference to the fact that Jon hasn't had a hit without Perry, but doesn't want to try to write one with JSS. That's a damned fact, not a promotion of Perry. If I can't have a discussion with you on the issues at hand without you trying to discredit what I say by diverting it to a discussion of Perry loonism I'll just quit responding. This is about JSS not Perry.

I have as much personal knowledge of Schon as the guys(including you) who have been assassinating Perry's character on this board for years have of Perry.

No, I have never attacked Neal's personal life before. I see no need to attack any of these men's personal lives. You asked me how I formed my opinion of Neal and I answered you. That's all.

I'll quit discussing this now because it'll probably just becone tedious, 'loon war idiocy.

[nolippin]

"having long ago formed the opinion that he's a spoiled, socially dysfunctional, egotistical prick..."

So, in your reality, this is not a personal attack on Neal. Thanks for clearing that up.

About what I thought.
No personal knowledge at all.
Going through frontmen? I don't remember you attacking schon's personal life and marriages (how do we know the women weren't going through HIM and his wallet btw?) while in mourning over the prior frontman.

Here is what it is:
Neal could solve the national debt, stablize the Gulf region and cure cancer.
All before lunch.

And people like you would not like him because perry's not in the band anymore.

You've already shown your inclination to do petty little shit like this in the name of a pro perry cause in another thread.

Pulling that Perry card out constantly is just bullshit 13. I mentioned Perry in the other thread in reference to the fact that Jon hasn't had a hit without Perry, but doesn't want to try to write one with JSS. That's a damned fact, not a promotion of Perry. If I can't have a discussion with you on the issues at hand without you trying to discredit what I say by diverting it to a discussion of Perry loonism I'll just quit responding. This is about JSS not Perry.

I have as much personal knowledge of Schon as the guys(including you) who have been assassinating Perry's character on this board for years have of Perry.

No, I have never attacked Neal's personal life before. I see no need to attack any of these men's personal lives. You asked me how I formed my opinion of Neal and I answered you. That's all.

I'll quit discussing this now because it'll probably just becone tedious, 'loon war idiocy.

[ohsherrie]

"having long ago formed the opinion that he's a spoiled, socially dysfunctional, egotistical prick..."

So, in your reality, this is not a personal attack on Neal. Thanks for clearing that up.

I said I didn't attack their personal lives, there's a difference between that a personally attacking them, but in fact I haven't made a habit of personally attacking them either. I've done it though, at times like this when they do something so totally stupid that they piss me off.

Is that clear enough for you?

[nolippin]

LOL!!!! I'm sure in your reality it's clear.

"having long ago formed the opinion that he's a spoiled, socially dysfunctional, egotistical prick..."

So, in your reality, this is not a personal attack on Neal. Thanks for clearing that up.

I said I didn't attack their personal lives, there's a difference between that a personally attacking them, but in fact I haven't made a habit of personally attacking them either. I've done it though, at times like this when they do something so totally stupid that they piss me off.

Is that clear enough for you?

[Kimmy]

The reason nobody saw/knew anything at the VA show is because Neal and the guys are really good at being Lying, backstabbing bastards.. They should be actors instead of singers. With friends like that, who needs enemies?

[Red13JoePa]

Pulling that Perry card out constantly is just bullshit 13. I mentioned Perry in the other thread in reference to the fact that Jon hasn't had a hit without Perry

That's not the perry card I'm pulling out.
That's parcel to another tried and true loon grudge against Cain I know he had a hit w/ WISYS but Diane Warren wrote the damn thing.

No, the perry card I'm pulling out NOW is the "Osama" episode.


You know GODdamn well if it was an All Eras Journey fan saying that you would not have backed that up.

[ArnelRox]

And people like you would not like him because perry's not in the band anymore.

You've already shown your inclination to do petty little shit like this in the name of a pro perry cause in another thread.

Give it a rest. U are a broken record w/an agenda of ur own to crush Sherrie every chance u get.

I read what u said about us MR people on another forum. Ur just here to make trouble & u admitted that over there. Yet, u have the nerve to trash Sherrie for shedding some light on things about an event she attended...as she was asked to do.

Go away.

[Red13JoePa]

I read what u said about us MR people on another forum.

Post it.






I'm waiting. Your band of asylum escapees might come at me for whatever it is, but the people I know and give a rip about will know they're exempt from whatever criticism I supposedly levied.


Do me a favor, too. Spare me the PMs challenging me to face to face meeting again over shit like this.

[ArnelRox]

Post it.

U post it. U wrote it! It's over there for anyone to look at.

Do me a favor, too. Spare me the PMs challenging me to face to face meeting again over shit like this.

Huh? Are u delusional? What PMs? Never sent u one in my life.

[ohsherrie]

Huh? Are u delusional? What PMs? Never sent u one in my life.

I've sent you one PM 13 and it was a friendly one. I don't know why you have this hate case going against me. I thought we were friends. Poor fool me.

I'm sorry you feel as you do, but I don't have any agenda regarding Perry. If I have an agenda right now it's to try and vindicate JSS in whatever way possible. That's all.

[Red13JoePa]

Post it.

U post it. U wrote it! It's over there for anyone to look at.

Do me a favor, too. Spare me the PMs challenging me to face to face meeting again over shit like this.

Huh? Are u delusional? What PMs? Never sent u one in my life.

i don't know the post to which you are referring, you insane bullshitting nitwit. Plus the burden of proof is on you. Don't accuse ME and tell ME to go finding supposedly damning evidence. You're coompletely out of your skull.

You HAVE pm'd me in (and you KNOW it) your previous (and equally hysterical) existence here challenging me to a meeting.

What did you want to do pace off 10, turn, and fire at high noon?

because I made a perry joke?

[ohsherrie]

13, you're hung up on this idea that all the Perry fans have alternate identities on here. I don't and Suz doesn't. If she says she didn't PM you, she didn't PM you. I don't know why I think you would believe that though, you evidently think I have no credibility whatsoever.

[Red13JoePa]

13, you're hung up on this idea that all the Perry fans have alternate identities on here. I don't and Suz doesn't. If she says she didn't PM you, she didn't PM you. I don't know why I think you would believe that though, you evidently think I have no credibility whatsoever.

sherrie, buy a clue.
he or she was journeyrox that's what i meant by that. If SHE says she didn't pm me then she's lying or her alter ego did it. then she was gone forever (sorry if they were sick) but she was screamy confrontational SOB then and has upped the ante now.

what perry loon an I wrong and "hung up" on having multiple ids? Reardon. And that's beyond proven.

[ohsherrie]

13, you're hung up on this idea that all the Perry fans have alternate identities on here. I don't and Suz doesn't. If she says she didn't PM you, she didn't PM you. I don't know why I think you would believe that though, you evidently think I have no credibility whatsoever.

sherrie, buy a clue.
he or she was journeyrox that's what i meant by that. then she was gone forever (sorry if they were sick) but she was screamy confrontational SOB then and has upped the ante now.

I know she was JRox that was just the other day. I thought you meant you thought she was someone else. I didn't think she was ever screamy or any more confrontational than a great many other people on here.

It's as if confrontational is OK as long as you don't proclaim yourself as a fan of Perry but not of Augeri.

[Red13JoePa]

I'm waiting for the damning post, JRox.


Or could it be "Don't worry Frank. I'm sure Andrew McNiece both empathizes and sympathizes?"

[ArnelRox]

You HAVE pm'd me in (and you KNOW it) your previous (and equally hysterical) existence here challenging me to a meeting.

What did you want to do pace off 10, turn, and fire at high noon?

because I made a perry joke?

Prove it. Post the PM u claim I sent u. I have NEVER sent u a PM NEVER. Prior to last week, due to serious illness, I wasnt even posting on this board for months. I'm a short female. Ur a man. Why would I challenge u to a meeting anyway? Ur delusional. Get a life.

[ArnelRox]

he or she was journeyrox that's what i meant by that. If SHE says she didn't pm me then she's lying or her alter ego did it. then she was gone forever (sorry if they were sick) but she was screamy confrontational SOB then and has upped the ante now.

I was journeyrox until they fired Jeff. I didnt want to be known as that anymore b/c journey don't rock anymore. I havent tried to hide who I am. A couple of friends suggested JourneyFuxSingers so I changed my name for a while.

I'm a screamy confrontational SOB? Pot, kettle, black, dude. U have had it in for me forever all b/c I'm a Perry fan. U hate ALL of us. Ur one of the reasons I stopped posting while I was sick. U think ur some kind of big bully. All u are is a lying stupid sack of shit.

Here's the link where u said tough shit to "those MR people":

http://journeyforums.com/those-mr-peopl ... rt,15.html

[Red13JoePa]

Here's the link where u said tough shit to "those MR people":

http://journeyforums.com/those-mr-peopl ... rt,15.html

You're kidding me with this, right?



Me saying it's Neal's band for better or worse and tough shit to those who don't like it?

And where'd I address it to "those MR people?" That was the thread author and in fact I avoided that phrasing b/c I meant if for here, there, everywhere. That's different from my stances here HOW


I guess you've had a modicum of success with this, because I was goaded into justifying it.








PS. God, you're weird. Get help.

[ArnelRox]

No I was referring to the "tough shit" part.

Still waiting for the PM where I allegedly challenged u to a meeting. Come on liar. Either post it or admit u lied to the world. U cant post it b/c it doesnt exist. So u might as well admit ur a liar who is trying to bully a female on here. At least pick on someone ur own size. Now u say I'm weird & I should get help? One more time: Pot, kettle, black.

LIAR

[Red13JoePa]

No I was referring to the "tough shit" part.

Still waiting for the PM where I allegedly challenged u to a meeting. Come on liar. Either post it or admit u lied to the world. U cant post it b/c it doesnt exist. So u might as well admit ur a liar who is trying to bully a female on here. At least pick on someone ur own size.

Oh, it IS tough shit.


Dude, the pms were numerous (including your holding that perry rerecorded in 2006 vocal parts for ST) and were before you ended your first tuturous existence here. FOREVER ago. I've had some pm traffic since then and cleaned my pms out. I also don't use the save function b/c I NEVER EVER need them to go moaning and bitching to Andrew about other posters.

[ArnelRox]

Dude, the pms were numerous (including your holding that perry rerecorded in 2006 vocal parts for ST) and were before you ended your first tuturous existence here. FOREVER ago. I've had some pm traffic since then and cleaned my pms out. I also don't use the save function b/c I NEVER EVER need them to go moaning and bitching to Andrew about other posters.

If u really think u got PMs saying this, u have me confused w/someone else here. I have NEVER EVER EVER sent u a PM. I also wasnt here "forever ago". I joined last August.

U are either confused or u are a LIAR. Either way, u owe me an apology.