JSS singing Faith in the Heartland - video

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JSS singing Faith in the Heartland - video

Postby AR » Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:07 am

Ok this one has a lot of obstructions and is not the best of quality. However if you are patient, you will see some decent footage. From JSS's 2nd night ever with the Frig and Fro's in Virginia Beach - Faith in the Heartland (not quite complete - missing the last few seconds - I need a better DVD ripper)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNXY7EY5Ib8
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:17 am

Holy Shit did that rock.. 8) ..2 nights in and the guy was a flat out stud on this number.

That song is an 850 lb gorilla.
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Postby (Crazy)Dulce Lady » Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:45 am

that's nice, Ed. thanks. one of my favorite songs.

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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:13 am

wow,, thanks ed!! why would you want to move away from THIS direction?? jeff and
"the drummer" , harmonize like a mother on this!

p.s.- im not at home , who exactly gets writing credits on this number??
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Postby belar » Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:33 am

That rocks! Thanks for posting that one, Ed.
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Postby journeyinto2001 » Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:29 am

My thoughts are that JSS covered Augeri "passable" for only the 2nd night, have to give him credit for the fast takeover. That being said, he bailed on some of the tough parts, including the beginning Augeri "Yeah.....", used Dean for others, and they used Augeri backing vocals mixed in (which I have to say made the song).

I know that this will piss some people off, but truth be told.... bottom line to me is that while Augeri never measured up to Perry in form/vocal strength, he did "fit" Journey vocals very well. JSS is simply a very good singer that never "fit" the Journey vocal style that has sold 70 million records, thus Schon recruiting him into the band was a mistake from day 1. I don't think Augeri will ever return to this bunch of clows, even if his voice is healthy and he gets the chance.

Schon needs to get Rollie and Perry back in the studio, keeping Deen or bringing Smitty back. Otherwise this band is on it's last legs.
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Postby Món » Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:39 am

journeyinto2001 wrote:My thoughts are that JSS covered Augeri "passable" for only the 2nd night, have to give him credit for the fast takeover. That being said, he bailed on some of the tough parts, including the beginning Augeri "Yeah.....", used Dean for others, and they used Augeri backing vocals mixed in (which I have to say made the song).

I know that this will piss some people off, but truth be told.... bottom line to me is that while Augeri never measured up to Perry in form/vocal strength, he did "fit" Journey vocals very well. JSS is simply a very good singer that never "fit" the Journey vocal style that has sold 70 million records, thus Schon recruiting him into the band was a mistake from day 1. I don't think Augeri will ever return to this bunch of clows, even if his voice is healthy and he gets the chance.

Schon needs to get Rollie and Perry back in the studio, keeping Deen or bringing Smitty back. Otherwise this band is on it's last legs.


I concur 100%

Bad timing for this post, tho. :|
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:10 am

I don't personally see how any artist would want to stagnate trying to imitate and recreate what they'd already done in the past, rather than take a chance and move in a different direction. That's what pisses me off about this whole ordeal. Journey had a massive opportunity to explore new musical avenues and dropped it. So what if Jeff didn't sound like Augeri or Perry? He brought an edge and some much-needed soul to Journey and his input and creativity could've kept them going for a few more years. Now that Jeff's out, I don't see Journey lasting much longer at all. I'll support them if Jeremey gets the gig and try out any new music, but Jeff was the best option Journey could've taken.

Songs like FITH were perfect for Jeff. Good performance.
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Postby AR » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:11 am

journeyinto2001 wrote:My thoughts are that JSS covered Augeri "passable" for only the 2nd night, have to give him credit for the fast takeover. That being said, he bailed on some of the tough parts, including the beginning Augeri "Yeah.....", used Dean for others, and they used Augeri backing vocals mixed in (which I have to say made the song).

I know that this will piss some people off, but truth be told.... bottom line to me is that while Augeri never measured up to Perry in form/vocal strength, he did "fit" Journey vocals very well. JSS is simply a very good singer that never "fit" the Journey vocal style that has sold 70 million records, thus Schon recruiting him into the band was a mistake from day 1. I don't think Augeri will ever return to this bunch of clows, even if his voice is healthy and he gets the chance.

Schon needs to get Rollie and Perry back in the studio, keeping Deen or bringing Smitty back. Otherwise this band is on it's last legs.


JSS sang this song live - Augeri never did you stupid fuck.

I'm glad people are going easier on SA now, but your post is as Mon said, BAD TIMING.
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:29 am

journeyinto2001 wrote:My thoughts are that JSS covered Augeri "passable" .


corey, you missed the entire point of this post,,.... sometimes its just rock n roll ,, and its to be enjoyed..no comparing .. none of the past matters anymore anyway,, jeff and SA will both record solid new material in time,, have great live shows.. and move away from the journey nightmare,, i hope both of them release, "how it really was" statements in the new future,,, happy rockin!!!! 8)
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Postby Rick » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:40 am

journeyinto2001 wrote:My thoughts are that JSS covered Augeri "passable" for only the 2nd night, have to give him credit for the fast takeover. That being said, he bailed on some of the tough parts, including the beginning Augeri "Yeah.....", used Dean for others, and they used Augeri backing vocals mixed in (which I have to say made the song).

I know that this will piss some people off, but truth be told.... bottom line to me is that while Augeri never measured up to Perry in form/vocal strength, he did "fit" Journey vocals very well. JSS is simply a very good singer that never "fit" the Journey vocal style that has sold 70 million records, thus Schon recruiting him into the band was a mistake from day 1. I don't think Augeri will ever return to this bunch of clows, even if his voice is healthy and he gets the chance.

Schon needs to get Rollie and Perry back in the studio, keeping Deen or bringing Smitty back. Otherwise this band is on it's last legs.


This post is meant to do nothing but cause trouble. JSS is 10x the singer/performer Augeri is. Augeri couldn't carry Jeff's jock strap.
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Postby YoungJRNYfan » Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:01 am

At the beginning of this song, Neals guitar songs fuckin' amazing. JSS sounds good here.
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Postby nikki » Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:06 am

larryfromnextdoor wrote:
journeyinto2001 wrote:My thoughts are that JSS covered Augeri "passable" .


corey, you missed the entire point of this post,,.... sometimes its just rock n roll ,, and its to be enjoyed..no comparing .. none of the past matters anymore anyway,, jeff and SA will both record solid new material in time,, have great live shows.. and move away from the journey nightmare,, i hope both of them release, "how it really was" statements in the new future,,, happy rockin!!!! 8)


Thanky you, Larry! I get tired of all of the comparing....every singer, whether it's SP, Augeri, or JSS brings something different to the table and I would much prefer seeing someone put their own style into a song instead of trying to emulate the original singer, and yes, sometimes it is nice to just enjoy the music as opposed to over-analyzing and picking it to shreds.
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Postby YoungJRNYfan » Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:31 am

I don't think Augeri tried to be Perry at all to be honest. Some people make it out to be that all Augeri did was watch tape on Perry , took notes, studied and wanted to be JUST LIKE HIM. I think SA was just being SA. Everyone always says he was too much like Perry, but some people forget that's what the whole point was. When people hack on JSS, it's that he doesn't sound like Perry.

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Postby conversationpc » Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:40 am

YoungJRNYfan wrote:I don't think Augeri tried to be Perry at all to be honest. Some people make it out to be that all Augeri did was watch tape on Perry , took notes, studied and wanted to be JUST LIKE HIM. I think SA was just being SA. Everyone always says he was too much like Perry, but some people forget that's what the whole point was. When people hack on JSS, it's that he doesn't sound like Perry.


Other than the very first time I saw Journey live with Augeri, in November '98, I never thought he sounded like Perry or even tried to sound like him. His tone was different. His inflections were different. Totally different delivery. Just nothing similar except both guys are named Steve, have a long "e" sound at the end of their last name, and have an extremely slight resemblance to each other.
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Postby Granny » Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:49 am

Ed, thanks for posting that..I had never heard Jeff sing FITH...always liked that song but boy did he make it rock.
Much better than SA..Loved that performance.
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Postby YoungJRNYfan » Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:54 am

conversationpc wrote:
YoungJRNYfan wrote:I don't think Augeri tried to be Perry at all to be honest. Some people make it out to be that all Augeri did was watch tape on Perry , took notes, studied and wanted to be JUST LIKE HIM. I think SA was just being SA. Everyone always says he was too much like Perry, but some people forget that's what the whole point was. When people hack on JSS, it's that he doesn't sound like Perry.


Other than the very first time I saw Journey live with Augeri, in November '98, I never thought he sounded like Perry or even tried to sound like him. His tone was different. His inflections were different. Totally different delivery. Just nothing similar except both guys are named Steve, have a long "e" sound at the end of their last name, and have an extremely slight resemblance to each other.


Exactly.
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Postby Just_Plain_Eric » Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:56 am

I can't believe they canned this guy...voice, looks, style, stage presence...

PS I think its notable that in the early shows it looks like Jeff sported the leather pants and button down look similar to Augeri but then seemed to find his own style in cool tees and jeans.

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Postby Ms_M » Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:40 am

Awesome performance. 'Nuff said.
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Postby JrnySuxBalls » Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:32 pm

Just_Plain_Eric wrote:I can't believe they canned this guy...voice, looks, style, stage presence...


Yeah, I know. :roll:
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Postby journeyinto2001 » Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:10 am

[/quote]

JSS sang this song live - Augeri never did you stupid fuck.

I'm glad people are going easier on SA now, but your post is as Mon said, BAD TIMING.[/quote]

Sorry my timing isn't right, and thanks for posting the video, but I beg to differ that SA never sang it live you fellow stupid fuck :wink: I have a video of him singing it live, no question about it, different inflections, etc. And he kicked ass on it. He had plenty of bad nights, but had some really killer nights too.

I wish the best to both JSS and SA. They are better off out of this mess of a band at this point. They have certainly, in Perry's words, "cracked the stone". Perry gets the last laugh...and all the way to the bank.
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Postby ohsherrie » Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:32 am

Thanks Ed, you rock. :wink:

This is probably going to be an unpopular opinion, but I think that sounded better than Augeri's studio recording of the song.

What the fuck were they thinking of when they let this amazing singer/performer go? Too amazing I guess, overshadowed the Schon midget. :twisted:
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:59 am

journeyinto2001 wrote:Sorry my timing isn't right, and thanks for posting the video, but I beg to differ that SA never sang it live you fellow stupid fuck :wink: I have a video of him singing it live, no question about it, different inflections, etc. And he kicked ass on it. He had plenty of bad nights, but had some really killer nights too.


You do realize most of us here genuinely like Steve Augeri and wish nothing but for him to succeed, don't you?
Stop prodding what is a sore point for so many.
There is a reason why Andrew upholds his journalistic ethos and closes/deletes factually inaccurate threads in a moments notice.
The multiple Steve Augeri lipsynching threads that once densely populated this board were not one of those instances.
And, as Deano and others have clarified, the tape used for FITH is different than the studio take.
Go ahead and post the clip if you wish to heap further shame upon a very nice man.
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:33 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:You do realize most of us here genuinely like Steve Augeri and wish nothing but for him to succeed, don't you?
Stop prodding what is a sore point for so many.
There is a reason why Andrew upholds his journalistic ethos and closes/deletes factually inaccurate threads in a moments notice.
The multiple Steve Augeri lipsynching threads that once densely populated this board were not one of those instances.
And, as Deano and others have clarified, the tape used for FITH is different than the studio take.
Go ahead and post the clip if you wish to heap further shame upon a very nice man.


Amen! Preach it brother! :lol:
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