journey's myspace

[Kate]

As another newbie (yet to be determined if I'm cool or not I guess), it seems like there's two kinds of new people who come in here to post. People who want to get to know the rest of the board and participate in the conversations, and people who just pop in to stir up shit. The first group bother using the search button. If you only want AR to respond to the JSS question so you can jump in with some sport team comparison, you could start a thread addressed specifically to him instead of jumping all over somebody else who thought you might actually want an answer to the one question you asked.

[ohsherrie]

Good one Laura.

[Kate]

T-Time, there's a plethora of posts about what most of us thought about that. Just do a little searchin.

first of all i wasn't talking to you. second of all AR is always attacking people about there post with his ghetto lingo and his high morals when i'm assuming he's a ravens fan. correct me if i'm wrong football fans but the owner of the ravens did the same god damn thing to the city of cleveland as journey did to a few of there lead singers. differen't sport but the same ball game. just making a point. it's easy to just sit back and drill people on what they post. walk out on your own limb if your so fucking insightful and intelligent. this post isn't directed towards you. so stick your "plethora" up your ass. thanks for your advice though.

Hey T-TIME...

That's getting printed out, framed, and put in my office at work.

[Rhiannon]

Makes me think someone's trying to ride the coattails of past glory by-gone.

<<<<<<<<Ya think?

That was my inspiration.

[Rhiannon]

T-Time, there's a plethora of posts about what most of us thought about that. Just do a little searchin.

first of all i wasn't talking to you. second of all AR is always attacking people about there post with his ghetto lingo and his high morals when i'm assuming he's a ravens fan. correct me if i'm wrong football fans but the owner of the ravens did the same god damn thing to the city of cleveland as journey did to a few of there lead singers. differen't sport but the same ball game. just making a point. it's easy to just sit back and drill people on what they post. walk out on your own limb if your so fucking insightful and intelligent. this post isn't directed towards you. so stick your "plethora" up your ass. thanks for your advice though.

Hey T-TIME...

Good one Laura!! You clever chick!

And hey, T-TIME... again with this stuff?
Life, get one.

[Torch]

All I can really say is that trolls suck.

[AR]

As another newbie (yet to be determined if I'm cool or not I guess), it seems like there's two kinds of new people who come in here to post. People who want to get to know the rest of the board and participate in the conversations, and people who just pop in to stir up shit. The first group bother using the search button. If you only want AR to respond to the JSS question so you can jump in with some sport team comparison, you could start a thread addressed specifically to him instead of jumping all over somebody else who thought you might actually want an answer to the one question you asked.

Who the FUCK are you #1?

And number 2, how much do you weigh you ignorant fucking ****?

[Playitloudforme]

As another newbie (yet to be determined if I'm cool or not I guess), it seems like there's two kinds of new people who come in here to post. People who want to get to know the rest of the board and participate in the conversations, and people who just pop in to stir up shit. The first group bother using the search button. If you only want AR to respond to the JSS question so you can jump in with some sport team comparison, you could start a thread addressed specifically to him instead of jumping all over somebody else who thought you might actually want an answer to the one question you asked.

Who the FUCK are you #1?

And number 2, how much do you weigh you ignorant fucking ****?

(edited by Kate who can't read worth shit today)

[Rick]

I'm confused.

[ohsherrie]

I'm confused.

Me too. I also don't trust any new nic until they prove themselves to really be new and not just another nic.

[Just Mindy]

first of all i wasn't talking to you. second of all AR is always attacking people about there post with his ghetto lingo and his high morals when i'm assuming he's a ravens fan. correct me if i'm wrong football fans but the owner of the ravens did the same god damn thing to the city of cleveland as journey did to a few of there lead singers. differen't sport but the same ball game. just making a point. it's easy to just sit back and drill people on what they post. walk out on your own limb if your so fucking insightful and intelligent. this post isn't directed towards you. so stick your "plethora" up your ass. thanks for your advice though.

Dude, you seem to have issues w/people being attacked, yet this is just what you did here. Totally unprovoked. You want to have an exclusive conversation with someone? There's a nifty little function that Andrew built into this site called Private Messaging. It's pretty cool. Check it out.

[Kate]

sp all over the place. newly added videos... things that make you go hmm...

http://www.myspace.com/journey

Not happening. Give up the dream.

just curious. what do you think about what they did to jss?

T-Time, there's a plethora of posts about what most of us thought about that. Just do a little searchin.

first of all i wasn't talking to you. second of all AR is always attacking people about there post with his ghetto lingo and his high morals when i'm assuming he's a ravens fan. correct me if i'm wrong football fans but the owner of the ravens did the same god damn thing to the city of cleveland as journey did to a few of there lead singers. differen't sport but the same ball game. just making a point. it's easy to just sit back and drill people on what they post. walk out on your own limb if your so fucking insightful and intelligent. this post isn't directed towards you. so stick your "plethora" up your ass. thanks for your advice though.

And fuck you and the horse you came in on. Who the HELL are you to start droppin bombs in here???

Fuck you. Fuckin' newbies piss me off. NOT meaning the cool ones, just the jerks who don't know WHAT THE SEARCH TOPIC BUTTON IS FOR... asshole.

1) My comment WAS directed to you, because you are new, and we do not need yet another thread hijacked about 'what do we think about what happened'..blah blah blah. I was being courteous. Perhaps you hadn't seen the search button.

2) I'm not AR, and who the fuck gives a damn about a sports team and what they allegedly did or didn't do.

Now you just pissed me off, and on the wrong fuckin day to piss me off. NOTED LOGGED Asshole!

For further clarification, this is the thread I was commenting on.

[Sarah]

The myspace page is not new. It went up last year.

The band had put up one (I believe Jeff had a hand in the idea and getting them started)

Then Sony/BMG came along and filed a complaint with myspace saying that as the
label they had the rights and already had a page up, and they won.

Actually there was a merging of the site that the band had done (I believe Sarah had worked on it)
and the Sony/BMG page so that the only page on myspace was the "official"

This all went on prior to the release of the reissues.

Quoted for truth.

I had mentioned that they should have one and Jeff probably also said something, so management asked me to make one... I did, and long story short, MySpace said the band can only have one profile and since Sony had already made a Perry-era page, theirs was favored.

It's pretty much MySpace's fault that it's so focused on Steve P.

[7 Wishes]

It should be Fleischman-focused. He was the original lead singer.

Who are all these people who come in here to stir up shit? Enough already.

[Crazie Scarab]

It should be Fleischman-focused. He was the original lead singer.

Who are all these people who come in here to stir up shit? Enough already.

Journey? What's the point? Unless they bring either JSS or Steve Perry back onto the stage again, I'm just not interested.

[CatEyes]

The myspace page is not new. It went up last year.

The band had put up one (I believe Jeff had a hand in the idea and getting them started)

Then Sony/BMG came along and filed a complaint with myspace saying that as the
label they had the rights and already had a page up, and they won.

Actually there was a merging of the site that the band had done (I believe Sarah had worked on it)
and the Sony/BMG page so that the only page on myspace was the "official"

This all went on prior to the release of the reissues.

Quoted for truth.

I had mentioned that they should have one and Jeff probably also said something, so management asked me to make one... I did, and long story short, MySpace said the band can only have one profile and since Sony had already made a Perry-era page, theirs was favored.

It's pretty much MySpace's fault that it's so focused on Steve P.

Thanks Sarah

at least I was in the right neighborhood.

[edit] By the way Sarah, the site you did looked far more professional than the Sony site. [/edit]

Cat

[Sarah]

Thank you, I was pretty proud of it for the one day it was up... XD

[StringsOfJoy]

The myspace page is not new. It went up last year.

The band had put up one (I believe Jeff had a hand in the idea and getting them started)

Then Sony/BMG came along and filed a complaint with myspace saying that as the
label they had the rights and already had a page up, and they won.

Actually there was a merging of the site that the band had done (I believe Sarah had worked on it)
and the Sony/BMG page so that the only page on myspace was the "official"

This all went on prior to the release of the reissues.

Quoted for truth.

I had mentioned that they should have one and Jeff probably also said something, so management asked me to make one... I did, and long story short, MySpace said the band can only have one profile and since Sony had already made a Perry-era page, theirs was favored.

It's pretty much MySpace's fault that it's so focused on Steve P.

That's weak...who owns the "Journey" trademark/service mark?

You'd think NoMoTa/Front Line would have the savvy or the balls to wrest the profile back from Sony/BMG. The label doesn't own the mark and Myspace just doesn't want to get in the middle of a pissing match. Even so, the band and management should have the cajones to stand up for their own mark or risk having it wrested from them (which could happen if they don't assert themselves on this Myspace issue).

[mrmusicman73]

just think it odd that NOW they are adding all this perry stuff. if they REALLY wanted to market themselves they would take risks & move forward instead of living in the past. they had that chance & blew it. boo!

You know what, I noticed the same thing but didn't post about it because I had never been to their Myspace page previously so I wasn't sure if they had all of the Perry stuff on there before.

I am still willing to bet as first stated in my 1st post on this forum that we will see a re-united Journey with Steve Perry. I say this despite Steve's so called official statement to the contrary. That and the audition with Jeremy lead me to beleive those things are simply diversions so that impact of Perry's return isn't diminished.

[Crazie Scarab]

I am still willing to bet as first stated in my 1st post on this forum that we will see a re-united Journey with Steve Perry. I say this despite Steve's so called official statement to the contrary. That and the audition with Jeremy lead me to beleive those things are simply diversions so that impact of Perry's return isn't diminished.

If that happens, it will once again prove Journey doesn't give a shit about their core fans. Think back on all the shit they already put us through!

Fuckers would do it this way, though, as a means of marketing. As chicken shit as it would be, I could see it from that organization.

Damn, I wish I wouldn't have found this thread!

[Rick]

I am still willing to bet as first stated in my 1st post on this forum that we will see a re-united Journey with Steve Perry. I say this despite Steve's so called official statement to the contrary. That and the audition with Jeremy lead me to beleive those things are simply diversions so that impact of Perry's return isn't diminished.

If that happens, it will once again prove Journey doesn't give a shit about their core fans. Think back on all the shit they already put us through!

Fuckers would do it this way, though, as a means of marketing. As chicken shit as it would be, I could see it from that organization.

Damn, I wish I wouldn't have found this thread!

If, and I mean IF Perry were to ever return, it would be in the studio only. He could go into the studio and do a record, then they would let Jeremey tour it. Perry couldn't handle touring at the schedule Journey tours. If they would do maybe 6 or 8 big shows across the country, then maybe, but he couldn't do more than that. I don't think so anyway.

[yulog]

I am still willing to bet as first stated in my 1st post on this forum that we will see a re-united Journey with Steve Perry. I say this despite Steve's so called official statement to the contrary. That and the audition with Jeremy lead me to beleive those things are simply diversions so that impact of Perry's return isn't diminished.

If that happens, it will once again prove Journey doesn't give a shit about their core fans. Think back on all the shit they already put us through!

Fuckers would do it this way, though, as a means of marketing. As chicken shit as it would be, I could see it from that organization.

Damn, I wish I wouldn't have found this thread!

If, and I mean IF Perry were to ever return, it would be in the studio only. He could go into the studio and do a record, then they would let Jeremey tour it. Perry couldn't handle touring at the schedule Journey tours. If they would do maybe 6 or 8 big shows across the country, then maybe, but he couldn't do more than that. I don't think so anyway.

Even if that is all he did ,so many people would be okay with that,i think most fans would be fine just hearing him on a cd.

[AlienC]

The myspace page is not new. It went up last year.

The band had put up one (I believe Jeff had a hand in the idea and getting them started)

Then Sony/BMG came along and filed a complaint with myspace saying that as the
label they had the rights and already had a page up, and they won.

Actually there was a merging of the site that the band had done (I believe Sarah had worked on it)
and the Sony/BMG page so that the only page on myspace was the "official"

This all went on prior to the release of the reissues.

Quoted for truth.

I had mentioned that they should have one and Jeff probably also said something, so management asked me to make one... I did, and long story short, MySpace said the band can only have one profile and since Sony had already made a Perry-era page, theirs was favored.

It's pretty much MySpace's fault that it's so focused on Steve P.

That's weak...who owns the "Journey" trademark/service mark?

You'd think NoMoTa/Front Line would have the savvy or the balls to wrest the profile back from Sony/BMG. The label doesn't own the mark and Myspace just doesn't want to get in the middle of a pissing match. Even so, the band and management should have the cajones to stand up for their own mark or risk having it wrested from them (which could happen if they don't assert themselves on this Myspace issue).

It has never been and is not now a protected service or trade mark. There is no (sm) or (tm) behind the name, hence, not protected.
Names cannot be copyrighted, either.

[StringsOfJoy]

The myspace page is not new. It went up last year.

The band had put up one (I believe Jeff had a hand in the idea and getting them started)

Then Sony/BMG came along and filed a complaint with myspace saying that as the
label they had the rights and already had a page up, and they won.

Actually there was a merging of the site that the band had done (I believe Sarah had worked on it)
and the Sony/BMG page so that the only page on myspace was the "official"

This all went on prior to the release of the reissues.

Quoted for truth.

I had mentioned that they should have one and Jeff probably also said something, so management asked me to make one... I did, and long story short, MySpace said the band can only have one profile and since Sony had already made a Perry-era page, theirs was favored.

It's pretty much MySpace's fault that it's so focused on Steve P.

That's weak...who owns the "Journey" trademark/service mark?

You'd think NoMoTa/Front Line would have the savvy or the balls to wrest the profile back from Sony/BMG. The label doesn't own the mark and Myspace just doesn't want to get in the middle of a pissing match. Even so, the band and management should have the cajones to stand up for their own mark or risk having it wrested from them (which could happen if they don't assert themselves on this Myspace issue).

It has never been and is not now a protected service or trade mark. There is no (sm) or (tm) behind the name, hence, not protected.
Names cannot be copyrighted, either.

Old topic, but I never checked in afterward.

Just to clarify...

Names can't be copyrighted, but marks are not copyrights. They are a different form of IP, and the "SM" or "TM" simply serves notice as to federal registration (which in turn only provides a federal PRESUMPTION and not conclusive proof of mark ownership).

Designations or not, another pop act out there naming itself "Journey" and putting on for-profit rock concerts would rightly immediately receive a cease-and-desist letter from the band's lawyer. This is classic protection of a mark and doesn't require federal registration (which, by the way, is the ONLY legal way in which "TM" or "SM" can be appended to a mark).

Additionally, there are non-federal (presumably California state-level) mark protections that independently protect marks and those protections work independent and regardless of federal registration and federal enforcement.

My guess is there must be some assignment of certain mark-related rights to Sony, or at least some ambiguity in existing agreements, that allows for Sony to maintain and control the Myspace page under the general assignation of marketing and distribution rights to the catalog.

[X factor]

I am still willing to bet as first stated in my 1st post on this forum that we will see a re-united Journey with Steve Perry. I say this despite Steve's so called official statement to the contrary. That and the audition with Jeremy lead me to beleive those things are simply diversions so that impact of Perry's return isn't diminished.

If that happens, it will once again prove Journey doesn't give a shit about their core fans. Think back on all the shit they already put us through!

Fuckers would do it this way, though, as a means of marketing. As chicken shit as it would be, I could see it from that organization.

Damn, I wish I wouldn't have found this thread!

If, and I mean IF Perry were to ever return, it would be in the studio only. He could go into the studio and do a record, then they would let Jeremey tour it. Perry couldn't handle touring at the schedule Journey tours. If they would do maybe 6 or 8 big shows across the country, then maybe, but he couldn't do more than that. I don't think so anyway.

Rick, that's what I've thought they'd do all along. Still do... I love the hell outta the wombat, but I think he's gonna turn out to be wrong about this in the end. It only makes sense...

...but for now? If I WAS Steve, I'd stay the hell away from these guys. I actually wish he'd go on the road with Rollie, Smitty, Randy J and Nuno B and call it "An evening of Journey" or some such shit.
I'd be there...

[Rick]

I am still willing to bet as first stated in my 1st post on this forum that we will see a re-united Journey with Steve Perry. I say this despite Steve's so called official statement to the contrary. That and the audition with Jeremy lead me to beleive those things are simply diversions so that impact of Perry's return isn't diminished.

If that happens, it will once again prove Journey doesn't give a shit about their core fans. Think back on all the shit they already put us through!

Fuckers would do it this way, though, as a means of marketing. As chicken shit as it would be, I could see it from that organization.

Damn, I wish I wouldn't have found this thread!

If, and I mean IF Perry were to ever return, it would be in the studio only. He could go into the studio and do a record, then they would let Jeremey tour it. Perry couldn't handle touring at the schedule Journey tours. If they would do maybe 6 or 8 big shows across the country, then maybe, but he couldn't do more than that. I don't think so anyway.

Rick, that's what I've thought they'd do all along. Still do... I love the hell outta the wombat, but I think he's gonna turn out to be wrong about this in the end. It only makes sense...

...but for now? If I WAS Steve, I'd stay the hell away from these guys. I actually wish he'd go on the road with Rollie, Smitty, Randy J and Nuno B and call it "An evening of Journey" or some such shit.
I'd be there...

I think you would have a lot of company too.

[Saint John]

As much as some people would love to live on Fantasy Island and think Journey was "going places" with Jeff, they weren't. They aren't going anywhere with ANY singer other than Steve Perry. 10 years ago...maybe. Doubtful, but maybe. Perry's voice is too closely associated with the name "Journey." Get back Perry or bury this thing. That's basically the sentiment I had a month ago, 6 months ago and 6 years ago.

[SPFan4ever]

I read where SP said that he does not have a myspace and he does not go into chatrooms or post on message boards. He also said that if someone says it is him, it isn't.

[Saint John]

I read where SP said that he does not have a myspace and he does not go into chatrooms or post on message boards. He also said that if someone says it is him, it isn't.

He also said they were touring in 96.