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Postby paste » Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:50 am

From the Lefsetz email
If the original Journey got back together, they could sell out stadiums. Oh, they wouldn't have the cred of the Police, but they've got the FANS!


Not quite true. If the original Journey reformed, they would probably have to play smaller venues than the ones they are in now. I can't see a lot of demand for the pre-Perry line up.


Saint John wrote:A bit off topic, but did anyone realize that Poison and Cinderella AVERAGED 20,000+ fans last year on their tour? Tell me a Perry fronted Journey couldn't come close to doubling that? Steve, it's time...quit fucking around. Poison and RATT were in Chicago last night, a TUESDAY night mind you, and they had nearly 15,000. The show had ZERO promotion. I didn't even know about it.


Your Poison & Cinderella figures are way off. According to this article:http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003566857, they sold about 270,000 tickets for 37 shows, which averages out to around 7,300 per show.

If you do some searching on the Metal Sludge Gossip Board, you can find a lot of stats from that tour and the only one that seemed to come close to 20,000 was some show at a fair.
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Postby Saint John » Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:53 am

paste wrote:From the Lefsetz email
If the original Journey got back together, they could sell out stadiums. Oh, they wouldn't have the cred of the Police, but they've got the FANS!


Not quite true. If the original Journey reformed, they would probably have to play smaller venues than the ones they are in now. I can't see a lot of demand for the pre-Perry line up.


Saint John wrote:A bit off topic, but did anyone realize that Poison and Cinderella AVERAGED 20,000+ fans last year on their tour? Tell me a Perry fronted Journey couldn't come close to doubling that? Steve, it's time...quit fucking around. Poison and RATT were in Chicago last night, a TUESDAY night mind you, and they had nearly 15,000. The show had ZERO promotion. I didn't even know about it.


Your Poison & Cinderella figures are way off. According to this article:http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003566857, they sold about 270,000 tickets for 37 shows, which averages out to around 7,300 per show.

If you do some searching on the Metal Sludge Gossip Board, you can find a lot of stats from that tour and the only one that seemed to come close to 20,000 was some show at a fair.



Thanks for pointing that out. I got my information from my buddy Tom. Laurie and Kam know who he is. Thanks Tom, you fucking asshole. Making me look like a jerkoff...like I need YOUR help to do that. :lol:
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Postby Rick » Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:54 am

paste wrote:From the Lefsetz email
If the original Journey got back together, they could sell out stadiums. Oh, they wouldn't have the cred of the Police, but they've got the FANS!


Not quite true. If the original Journey reformed, they would probably have to play smaller venues than the ones they are in now. I can't see a lot of demand for the pre-Perry line up.


Saint John wrote:A bit off topic, but did anyone realize that Poison and Cinderella AVERAGED 20,000+ fans last year on their tour? Tell me a Perry fronted Journey couldn't come close to doubling that? Steve, it's time...quit fucking around. Poison and RATT were in Chicago last night, a TUESDAY night mind you, and they had nearly 15,000. The show had ZERO promotion. I didn't even know about it.


Your Poison & Cinderella figures are way off. According to this article:http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003566857, they sold about 270,000 tickets for 37 shows, which averages out to around 7,300 per show.

If you do some searching on the Metal Sludge Gossip Board, you can find a lot of stats from that tour and the only one that seemed to come close to 20,000 was some show at a fair.


I would imagine Lefsetz's remarks about the original Journey had Perry in mind. I know that's not the 'original', but it is to most. They would outsell the Police by great numbers. The argument is moot because Steve Perry ain't biting. Sadly.
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Postby ArnelRox » Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:04 am

paste wrote:Not quite true. If the original Journey reformed, they would probably have to play smaller venues than the ones they are in now. I can't see a lot of demand for the pre-Perry line up.


WE (the diehards) know who the ORIGINAL Journey is. But the average Joe thinks it's any lineup w/Perry & Schon in it (& generally Cain too).
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Postby ArnelRox » Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:06 am

Rick wrote:They would outsell the Police by great numbers.


I can't agree w/that. We're huge Journey fans so we think so. But The Police were the bigger band w/more worldwide acclaim back in the day. Sorry Rick.
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Postby paste » Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:06 am

Rick wrote:
paste wrote:From the Lefsetz email
If the original Journey got back together, they could sell out stadiums. Oh, they wouldn't have the cred of the Police, but they've got the FANS!


Not quite true. If the original Journey reformed, they would probably have to play smaller venues than the ones they are in now. I can't see a lot of demand for the pre-Perry line up.




I would imagine Lefsetz's remarks about the original Journey had Perry in mind. I know that's not the 'original', but it is to most. They would outsell the Police by great numbers. The argument is moot because Steve Perry ain't biting. Sadly.


I agree. The general public doesn't know that the classic line up of Journey isn't the original line up. Same things goes for a lot of other bands that didn't really hit until after they had changes in their line up, like Styx, Deep Purple, Rush, Genesis, REO, etc...
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Postby KCfla » Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:50 am

FYI- Just got this in my inbox: via the Lefsetz letter-

From Vivian Campbell:


You're right, of course, Bob, we're touring (for the first time in the band's nearly 30 year career) without a new record. On top of that, this is our 3rd summer in a row touring the U.S. We are indeed just about overstaying our welcome - a fact that's not lost upon us. Maybe next summer we'll just send Mutt out to do the business instead (perhaps he'll bring his wife along to do a turn, too!). I'm sure the fans won't be disappointed!



Seriously, however, the summer concert business seems to be about catalogue more than all else. Even if we had a new record out no one would care, apparently! That being the case, why shouldn't we benefit from our deep catalogue of hits, performed without assistance of backing tapes? In an era when most others mime, we deliver the goods in real time.



We're very proud of our ability to reproduce our hits in a live environment and we believe that there's a market for live music - now more than ever! But perhaps that's a foolish notion.....



That being the case, disregard this email

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Postby CatEyes » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:14 am

Yeah I just got home from work and found Viv's email too.

Ya beat me too it.

In re: Lefsetz' remarks regarding a Journey reunion, to me, it does not appear that he is
asking for one or even predicting one. He is not a Journey fan and has never indicated being
a Perry fan.

He simply says that he would "love to be there to hear the roar"

Lefsetz' is very strong on the importance of the fan base and keeping them happy - no matter
who the artist is - and he is also very aware of the Journey fan base.

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Postby Voyager » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:20 am

paste wrote:From the Lefsetz email
If the original Journey got back together, they could sell out stadiums. Oh, they wouldn't have the cred of the Police, but they've got the FANS!


Not quite true. If the original Journey reformed, they would probably have to play smaller venues than the ones they are in now. I can't see a lot of demand for the pre-Perry line up.


I think he means the SP/Journey.

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Postby Voyager » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:24 am

FYI- Just got this in my inbox: via the Lefsetz letter-

From Yngwie Malmsteen:

I would sell my fucking wife to see Journey with Steve Perry again. It would be fucking huge!

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Postby G.I.Jim » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:32 am

Voyager wrote:FYI- Just got this in my inbox: via the Lefsetz letter-

From Yngwie Malmsteen:

I would sell my fucking wife to see Journey with Steve Perry again. It would be fucking huge!

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Damn!

THAT's some serious ass devotion!!! I'd love to see them (maybe sell a kidney or something), but never my wife!!! I wonder how many times he's been married??? :lol: :lol:
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Postby JH'sTXfan » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:36 am

G.I.Jim wrote:
Voyager wrote:FYI- Just got this in my inbox: via the Lefsetz letter-

From Yngwie Malmsteen:

I would sell my fucking wife to see Journey with Steve Perry again. It would be fucking huge!

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Damn!

THAT's some serious ass devotion!!! I'd love to see them (maybe sell a kidney or something), but never my wife!!! I wonder how many times he's been married??? :lol: :lol:


She would probably be OK with that as long as the buyer has better seats. :lol:
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Postby ArnelRox » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:38 am

KCfla wrote:From Vivian Campbell:

In an era when most others mime, we deliver the goods in real time.


Cough Cough NOT all songs they don't (at least not when I saw them) Cough Cough
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Postby RedWingFan » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:58 am

JR (Susie) wrote:
KCfla wrote:From Vivian Campbell:

In an era when most others mime, we deliver the goods in real time.


Cough Cough NOT all songs they don't (at least not when I saw them) Cough Cough

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Postby Voyager » Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:03 pm

FYI- Just got this in my inbox: via the Lefsetz letter-

From Boy George:

I would take one up the ass to see Steve Perry with Journey again!

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