Poor Michael Anthony

[Voyager]

You always start the same exact threads here that you do at the links word for word. Do you like copy and paste?

I'm not sure where you learned your arithmetic, but in the schools I went to, once or twice does not add up to "always".

[Voyager]

And I'm getting tired of people saying there's something WRONG with Michael Anthony playing music live that he helped create! That's a load of shit! He has every right in the world to play those songs live and profit from it. Hell, TRIBUTE bands do it...why not a guy who actually was there?? He's making no bones that he IS Van Halen (like some other so called bands do these days). Cut the guy some slack...

I agree. But try telling Eddie Van Halen that. He is the one who needs to cut Michael Anthony some slack. Eddie only thinks about Eddie. Period.

[vhroth]

And I'm getting tired of people saying there's something WRONG with Michael Anthony playing music live that he helped create! That's a load of shit! He has every right in the world to play those songs live and profit from it. Hell, TRIBUTE bands do it...why not a guy who actually was there?? He's making no bones that he IS Van Halen (like some other so called bands do these days). Cut the guy some slack...

I agree. But try telling Eddie Van Halen that. He is the one who needs to cut Michael Anthony some slack. Eddie only thinks about Eddie. Period.

Why don't you cut Eddie some slack. He fought cancer,went through a divorce and struggled with drug addiction. Instead of MA giving Eddie some support he took off and toured with Hagar to make more money because he was tired of sitting around. MA comes off as a nice guy but it seems to me he only thinks of himself. Then he expects VH to invite him back and wonders why they didn't.

I can imagine what MA is going to say in interviews this fall. "I have no idea why I'm not in VH anymore."

Ok Mikey,you only went out and started 2 new bands and made a bunch of money touring with Hagar as The Other Half and made statements that Eddie was difficult to work with.

Did Alex go out and start a new band and play all VH music because he was tired of waiting for Eddie to get healthy from having cancer? NO.

[Kenny]

Ummm, do you feel the same way about Dave's shrieks?

Sometimes....but yes, he is the singer.

[Voyager]

Why don't you cut Eddie some slack. He fought cancer,went through a divorce and struggled with drug addiction. Instead of MA giving Eddie some support he took off and toured with Hagar to make more money because he was tired of sitting around. MA comes off as a nice guy but it seems to me he only thinks of himself. Then he expects VH to invite him back and wonders why they didn't.

I think to a certain extent we all have to think about what is best for us. I'm sure both Michael Anthony and Eddie Van Halen have done that, and rightfully so. But when you have a band, you have to think about what is best for the entire band. This is where I think Eddie's thinking has been impaired by too much substance abuse. People become selfish, introverted, isolated, and make very poor decisions when abusing alcohol and drugs. Michael Anthony, on the other hand, doesn't have these problems.

Who was it that first decided to work with Sammy Hagar? It was Eddie Van Halen. So if Michael Anthony decided to work with Sammy when Eddie was wasting times drinking and drugging, how can anyone blame Michael for wanting to jam with Sammy? Is it okay for Eddie to jam with Sammy when he wants to, but not okay for Michael to do the same? I honestly think Michael got tired of being led around like a dog on a chain by Eddie. It was okay when Eddie was sober enough to make wise decisions for the band, but he obviously started losing that ability beginning with Van Halen III.

I've read in several articles about Van Halen that Michael Anthony was always the anchor that kept Van Halen grounded. Now he is gone, and the band is being led around by Eddie who is living vicariously through his son Wolfgang (which is a common form of codependency induced by substance addictions). So basically Wolfgang is in charge now, which leaves no room for Michael Anthony.

I am sure that Michael Anthony wants no part of the circus that is currently called Van Halen. But I am also sure that he is very grieved to think about what could have been if Eddie was making decisions based on what would be good for Van Halen as a whole. He probably currently feels like he is attending the funeral of a very close loved one. I know that's what I would feel like.

[vhroth]

Why don't you cut Eddie some slack. He fought cancer,went through a divorce and struggled with drug addiction. Instead of MA giving Eddie some support he took off and toured with Hagar to make more money because he was tired of sitting around. MA comes off as a nice guy but it seems to me he only thinks of himself. Then he expects VH to invite him back and wonders why they didn't.

Who was it that first decided to work with Sammy Hagar? It was Eddie Van Halen. So if Michael Anthony decided to work with Sammy when Eddie was wasting times drinking and drugging, how can anyone blame Michael for wanting to jam with Sammy? Is it okay for Eddie to jam with Sammy when he wants to, but not okay for Michael to do the same?

MA started touring with Hagar in 2001. Eddie didn't talk to Hagar about touring with VH until the end of 2003 because Eddie was recovering from cancer while MA was out making money with Hagar.

[X factor]

Why don't you cut Eddie some slack. He fought cancer,went through a divorce and struggled with drug addiction. Instead of MA giving Eddie some support he took off and toured with Hagar to make more money because he was tired of sitting around. MA comes off as a nice guy but it seems to me he only thinks of himself. Then he expects VH to invite him back and wonders why they didn't.

Who was it that first decided to work with Sammy Hagar? It was Eddie Van Halen. So if Michael Anthony decided to work with Sammy when Eddie was wasting times drinking and drugging, how can anyone blame Michael for wanting to jam with Sammy? Is it okay for Eddie to jam with Sammy when he wants to, but not okay for Michael to do the same?

MA started touring with Hagar in 2001. Eddie didn't talk to Hagar about touring with VH until the end of 2003 because Eddie was recovering from cancer while MA was out making money with Hagar.

I get your logic, VH. i just think that Eddie is being petty about this. If he can let all that Roth has said about him over the years (not to mention the whole 96 MTV awards debacle) be water under the bridge, why can't he do the same with Mikey? Hell, I'm not convinced a guy like Anthony didn't honestly need to make the money when he went on tour. He never had as big a piece of the pie as the borthers, and by 2001, the man probably needed to work. Come on, baby...MICHAEL ANTHONY GOTTA EAT!!!! (ok, it had to be said!) And honestly...do you REALLY think Mikey was making THAT much dough with Sam in 01? He was a special guest on a double bill of a tour that did modest numbers at best! (the two shows I saw were both probably around 5-6000 people at best.) Split that with Sam's AND Dave's band, and I'm not exactly seeing a windfall....
The whole thing just doesn't seem right. Life's too damned short. Get over it and tour with the original band! THAT'S what (most of ) the real fans want.

[vhroth]

Why don't you cut Eddie some slack. He fought cancer,went through a divorce and struggled with drug addiction. Instead of MA giving Eddie some support he took off and toured with Hagar to make more money because he was tired of sitting around. MA comes off as a nice guy but it seems to me he only thinks of himself. Then he expects VH to invite him back and wonders why they didn't.

Who was it that first decided to work with Sammy Hagar? It was Eddie Van Halen. So if Michael Anthony decided to work with Sammy when Eddie was wasting times drinking and drugging, how can anyone blame Michael for wanting to jam with Sammy? Is it okay for Eddie to jam with Sammy when he wants to, but not okay for Michael to do the same?

MA started touring with Hagar in 2001. Eddie didn't talk to Hagar about touring with VH until the end of 2003 because Eddie was recovering from cancer while MA was out making money with Hagar.

Get over it and tour with the original band! THAT'S what (most of ) the real fans want.

Thats not what THE BAND wants so the couple of thousand people that are crying about this will have to get over it.

[Trailblazer]

I wouldn't wish this mess on Mike any more. I do, however, think it's quite a bit more than a couple thousand fans who are in his corner.

[vhroth]

Well if you go by ticket sales there are more people in Eddie's corner.

Someone mentioned they looked on Ticketmaster for a ticket and they are still avaliable. Thats true,if you want to buy 1 single ticket you can still get a halfway decent seat. But if you want 2 or 4 tickets to the shows that aren't sold out yet you'll be behind the stage or maybe nose bleeds at the very top of the arena. Look for yourself.

[Trailblazer]

At no time have I stated anything to the contrary. Of course, it is a massive-selling tour - I didn't expect otherwise. Friends of mine are going with the hope they will see an all-out implosion between Dave and EVH. I could have gotten tickets for this tour, but I will be seeing Sam and Mike instead. It was more difficult getting tickets for Hannah Montana than it was for VH.

I sincerely hope VH gives the fans their hard-earned money's worth!

[X factor]

Well if you go by ticket sales there are more people in Eddie's corner.

Someone mentioned they looked on Ticketmaster for a ticket and they are still avaliable. Thats true,if you want to buy 1 single ticket you can still get a halfway decent seat. But if you want 2 or 4 tickets to the shows that aren't sold out yet you'll be behind the stage or maybe nose bleeds at the very top of the arena. Look for yourself.

Uh, or more than likey DAVE's corner, dontcha think?

[vhroth]

Well if you go by ticket sales there are more people in Eddie's corner.

Someone mentioned they looked on Ticketmaster for a ticket and they are still avaliable. Thats true,if you want to buy 1 single ticket you can still get a halfway decent seat. But if you want 2 or 4 tickets to the shows that aren't sold out yet you'll be behind the stage or maybe nose bleeds at the very top of the arena. Look for yourself.

Uh, or more than likey DAVE's corner, dontcha think?

I'm sure it's both Dave and Eddie.

Has The Other Half sold out any of the theaters they are playing this fall besides the VIP?

[Trailblazer]

Not sure what that has to do with the price of oranges, but I really don't know. I do know that Sammy has a huge fan base in my town. He is doing two shows here in November and then the tour finale will be next summer at Busch Stadium - July, I think. Hot and muggy as a Louisiana swamp, but I will be there also.

[X factor]

Well if you go by ticket sales there are more people in Eddie's corner.

Someone mentioned they looked on Ticketmaster for a ticket and they are still avaliable. Thats true,if you want to buy 1 single ticket you can still get a halfway decent seat. But if you want 2 or 4 tickets to the shows that aren't sold out yet you'll be behind the stage or maybe nose bleeds at the very top of the arena. Look for yourself.

Uh, or more than likey DAVE's corner, dontcha think?

I'm sure it's both Dave and Eddie.

Has The Other Half sold out any of the theaters they are playing this fall besides the VIP?

No, but perhaps that's because Sammy has toured more than TWICE in the last 12 years, and his band is not a FREAK SHOW!!!!

Sigh....We're getting no place here... You say Po-tay-to, I say po-TA-to ...let's call the whole thing off!

[vhroth]

You'll only be half rocking because it's just The Other Half. But how can they go by that name when they're not in VH anymore. The other half of VH is Alex and Wolfgang. They just can't come up with anything original I guess. They never recorded anything new and how would they ever put out a greatest hits? Eddie and Alex wouldn't let them put their guitar and drums on a CD called The Other Half: GREATEST HITS. Pathetic.

Then you have The Mad Anthony Express playing CVH that he didn't even write. No new CD,shit he even has to use Sammy's band instead of getting his own band. Pathetic.

I would rather see The Atomic Punks.

[Trailblazer]

I'd rather see the Atomic Punks over Van Halen any day.

Oh and BTW,

Fuck Eddie Van Salesman. He's a dickhead.

vhroth, this is a post you made on 2/4/2007. Quite a different tune you're singin' now, dude!

[vhroth]

I'd rather see the Atomic Punks over Van Halen any day.

Oh and BTW,

Fuck Eddie Van Salesman. He's a dickhead.

vhroth, this is a post you made on 2/4/2007. Quite a different tune you're singin' now, dude!

Yeah I remember that but I'm going to see Dave and Eddie play all the CVH and Eddie can be a dickhead but I'm glad he went to rehab and is taking care of himself now and put together the new Van Halen.

[VH101]

Poor Michael Anthony?

No. Rich Michael Anthony.

[Voyager]

LOL!

[wildone]

MA has plenty to do this fall. He will be on tour with his own band The Mad Anthony Express playing Eddie and Dave's music since he can't write his own music and release his own CD. Also he will be playing in The Other Half with Hagar playing Eddie and Hagar's music so he's going to make a small fortune this fall.

It wouldn't surprise me if MA wrote a tell all book about VH since he already betrayed the band. MA wasn't fired from VH,he went out and started 2 new bands playing VH music so VH found another bass player. MA seems like a nice down to earth guy but I think he took Eddie for granted.

yah so they replace him with a fat kid and are probably paying him in Kryspy Kremes you got to love eddie ..yah eddie may have the bucks ...but he's just a fuckin alchoholic with money...he's nothing but a little troll..

[Voyager]

Well if you go by ticket sales there are more people in Eddie's corner.

Judging by ticket sales in Saint Louis, more people are in Michael Anthony's corner. There are still huge amounts of good tickets available, and it's the fourth day of ticket sales. Hannah Montana, on the other hand, sold out in 15 minutes at the same venue.

[Trailblazer]

I tried to get Hannah Montana tickets, but as you said, Voyager, they sold out almost immediately. Guess I'll be prowling eBay for them now. BTW, I remember you mentioning you saw the 2004 VH show at Savvis Center (now Scottrade). There were two shows in St. Louis on that tour - the first date sold out and they added another date. Those people who haven't been able to get tickets in their own town should consider checking St. Louis for tickets. Bruce Springsteen isn't coming here on his tour, but I will gladly make that short trip up to Chicago to see The Boss.

[vhroth]

Voyager already bought his Van Halen tickets. MA and The Other Half are fading away.

[Trailblazer]

Ya just can't leave it alone can ya? I am fully aware Voyager has his tickets. My post was directed at other fans who couldn't nail tickets in their own town.

[vhroth]

You can't compare Van Halen to Hannah Montana. She has her own show on Disney Channel that millions of people watch. The Disney Cannel constantly promotes her new CD on Disney Records and also promotes her tour on Disney Channel 24/7.

[Pacfanweb]

Well if you go by ticket sales there are more people in Eddie's corner.

Judging by ticket sales in Saint Louis, more people are in Michael Anthony's corner. There are still huge amounts of good tickets available, and it's the fourth day of ticket sales. Hannah Montana, on the other hand, sold out in 15 minutes at the same venue.

So you're saying that if Mike was still in the band, Van Halen would outsell Hannah Montana?

Sorry, but Hannah is something that is currently hot, has a hit TV show, and Van Halen hasn't put out any new material with Dave in over 10 years. No new stuff at all for 3 years, and no new album since 1998. And they certainly don't have a hit TV show.

So it doesn't surprise me that she is selling lots of tickets.....I will say this: When she was in front of VH in the Pollstar rankings, she had 50 or so shows on sale already, and VH only had a few.

But whatever....the Police tour is the only rock act that is going to come close to Van Halen this year, IMO, and they are doing a lot more shows, too.

[Voyager]

So you're saying that if Mike was still in the band, Van Halen would outsell Hannah Montana?

No, I'm saying that if Hannah Montana was in Van Halen, the tour would outsell Genesis.

[vhroth]

[StyxCollector]

But whatever....the Police tour is the only rock act that is going to come close to Van Halen this year, IMO, and they are doing a lot more shows, too.

Genesis in Europe played to over a million people on that leg. The US much less since they're only doing roughly 20,000 seater sans a few venues, but still fairly impressive for a "limited" tour. I think in the USA they'll play to over 200,000 fans all self-financed, no sponsorship. It's probably closer to 300,000 - 350,000 in the USA I would think.

I saw the show in the UK and also in Boston. Both sold out or close to it.

The Police will do the best this year, but don't count out RUsh, either.