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Postby Deb » Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:25 am

Just curious what other peoples opinions are on live vs. studio. Is there certain Journey songs you much prefer live than the studio version or is there live songs you've heard that just can't come close to the studio version?

There is quite a bit of Perry-era Journey that once I have heard it live has won me over the studio version. Here's a few and will add more as I think of them. Lovin Touchin Squeezin IMO comes across much better live than studio, has more of a bluesy/sexy swagger when played live. DayDream is another one that sold me over studio version. And surprisingly Perry's Stand Up Before It's Too Late from FTLOSM was one I could take or leave until I heard it live, love it much better live.

Only the Young is one that I don't think I've ever heard a live version come close to the studio version.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:33 am

Rule Any Way You Want It and Higher Place out.
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Postby m » Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:35 am

Most of them are better live, imo.
In fact, I listen to jrny everyday, but i can't remember the last time i listened to a studio version, lol. (probably tbf stuff, for obvious reasons :cry: )

Only the young, ask the lonely, faithfully, are a few that are perfect on the studio versions

some studio versions that i hate, but love live versions of:

lady luck, can do, la do da, wheel in the sky, lovin touchin, homemade love,


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Postby Deb » Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:36 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Rule Any Way You Want It and Higher Place out.


I can agree with those. I don't think I've ever heard a better version of either of those live than the studio.
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Re: Live vs. Studio

Postby bluejeangirl76 » Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:37 am

Deb wrote:Just curious what other peoples opinions are on live vs. studio. Is there certain Journey songs you much prefer live than the studio version or is there live songs you've heard that just can't come close to the studio version?


Great topic, Deb. The first one that comes to mind is Stay Awhile. Nothing beats live Stay Awhile. Any Way You Want It is another one and I know a lot of folks will disagree with that. But I like the live faster versions, especially the one on Greatest Hits Live. GHL also has the best LTS. The Captured LTS is pretty damn smokin' though too. I like the live faster version of WITS too (not that I don't like the orginials on these, though).

Live ones that don't come close to the studio tracks? Stone In Love. *ducks* That one doesn't fly live as well as someone with a user name like mine would hope. EXCEPT for the one on the Houston thing, but mostly just because that one has COWBELL :lol: Still my favorite song though, live or not.
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Postby marco17 » Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:40 am

Probably because the guitars give it a fuller sound, but I like Wheel in Sky a lot better live then on the CD. Only know what it sounded like live with Augeri, never saw SP or JSS do it, but that's definitely one I'd pick.
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Postby m » Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:41 am

Deb wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Rule Any Way You Want It and Higher Place out.


I can agree with those. I don't think I've ever heard a better version of either of those live than the studio.


just opinion, but i so disagree, i think the GH Live version is the best version. it's one of my favorite journey songs, yet the studio version is not, lol... go figure.
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Postby brywool » Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:43 am

any way you want it is terrible live. It's not that great of a song period. It's one chord progression over and over...

I think Where Were You was killer live during Perry's glory years. The Captured recording is amazing.
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Postby somethingtohide » Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:57 am

I've heard a boot of Patiently that for me is the most beautiful Perry vocal ever.

Don't have the boot myself and not even sure when it was recorded...ethreal in it's beauty.
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:00 am

somethingtohide wrote:I've heard a boot of Patiently that for me is the most beautiful Perry vocal ever.

Don't have the boot myself and not even sure when it was recorded...ethreal in it's beauty.


Probably the one from 1980 in Houston, I believe. Excellent version of that song.
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Postby somethingtohide » Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:01 am

conversationpc wrote:
somethingtohide wrote:I've heard a boot of Patiently that for me is the most beautiful Perry vocal ever.

Don't have the boot myself and not even sure when it was recorded...ethreal in it's beauty.


Probably the one from 1980 in Houston, I believe. Excellent version of that song.


That date sounds right.
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Postby knox » Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:19 am

I prefer studio over live period. The vocals are more relaxed, and you get the sound that the band wanted to portray.

Songs that come close live, to me, are:

Mother Father from 81.
Patiently "The One"
Soto's Edge Of The Blade live - I prefer this to Perry's studio version
Seperate Ways from 82's Days On The Green

Wheel and Any Way You Want It are definitely better in Studio. Live can't touch the feel of these songs from the studio.
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Postby Blueskies » Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:28 am

somethingtohide wrote:I've heard a boot of Patiently that for me is the most beautiful Perry vocal ever.

Don't have the boot myself and not even sure when it was recorded...ethreal in it's beauty.


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Postby journeyrock » Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:31 am

conversationpc wrote:
somethingtohide wrote:I've heard a boot of Patiently that for me is the most beautiful Perry vocal ever.

Don't have the boot myself and not even sure when it was recorded...ethreal in it's beauty.


Probably the one from 1980 in Houston, I believe. Excellent version of that song.
That's just what I was going to say, PC. That boot, in my opinion, is the best live concert I've ever heard, Perry's vocals soar, not just on Patiently, but Winds of March and a lot of others also. Boy would I love to find a video of that concert.

I totally enjoy live better than studio in most cases. I, too, listen to Journey every day, and the only songs on my CD's that I put together that are not live are Ask the Lonely and Only the Young. I agree they are better studio versions than live. I'll tell you though, when I heard JSS sing Ask the Lonely live, it was phenomenal.
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Postby m » Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:34 am

knox wrote:I prefer studio over live period. The vocals are more relaxed, and you get the sound that the band wanted to portray.


i'm always amused at how different our tastes are, even within the jrny fan cult.

(& come on, nothing can touch the philly 83 version of EOTB!!!!! masterpiece. as was the Mother father houston 81 version you mentioned.)
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Postby jrnyman28 » Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:44 am

So, with improvements made on certain songs while playing live wouldn't that lend creedence to the idea of re-recording them in the studio to represent those changes??? ;)
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Postby m » Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:47 am

no
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Postby Journey69 » Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:52 am

La do da ...most definitely ! Off Captured.. The version on the cd sucks..
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Postby Liam » Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:15 am

I normally like live versions of songs better than the studio. There are a couple of exceptions though. For example: "Frontiers" is horrible live...but one of my favorite studio tracks off that album. The layered vox at the end couldn't be duplicated live with just Perry. Now...you put Castronovo and Perry together...I'd probably be sold on the live version.
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Postby Johnny Mohawk » Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:45 am

Deb wrote;
Perry's Stand Up Before It's Too Late from FTLOSM was one I could take or leave until I heard it live, love it much better live.


I believe that the only songs from FTLOSM that Perry performed live were; "You Better Wait", "Missing You", "Listen to Your Heart" and "Somewhere There's Hope".
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Postby Deb » Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:01 am

Johnny Mohawk wrote:Deb wrote;
Perry's Stand Up Before It's Too Late from FTLOSM was one I could take or leave until I heard it live, love it much better live.


I believe that the only songs from FTLOSM that Perry performed live were; "You Better Wait", "Missing You", "Listen to Your Heart" and "Somewhere There's Hope".


I have a New Jersey FTLSM boot that he performed that one on, come to think of it that's the only boot I've heard it on. I'll upload it later for ya if you're interested.
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Postby Johnny Mohawk » Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:03 am

Deb wrote;
I have a New Jersey FTLSM boot that he performed that one on, come to think of it that's the only boot I've heard it on. I'll upload it later for ya if you're interested.


Absolutely!!!
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Re: Live vs. Studio

Postby jrnychick » Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:03 am

Deb wrote:Just curious what other peoples opinions are on live vs. studio. Is there certain Journey songs you much prefer live than the studio version or is there live songs you've heard that just can't come close to the studio version?

There is quite a bit of Perry-era Journey that once I have heard it live has won me over the studio version. Here's a few and will add more as I think of them. Lovin Touchin Squeezin IMO comes across much better live than studio, has more of a bluesy/sexy swagger when played live. DayDream is another one that sold me over studio version. And surprisingly Perry's Stand Up Before It's Too Late from FTLOSM was one I could take or leave until I heard it live, love it much better live.

Only the Young is one that I don't think I've ever heard a live version come close to the studio version.


Great question, Deb! I am honestly overall a huge fan of the live stuff. The whole concert feel just adds to the experience for me. Things may not be as perfect as in the studio, but the live recordings capture the moment in time. One of my favorite live songs is AWYWI. That is the ultimate jump-around-and-have-fun concert song.
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Postby journeyrock » Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:05 am

And the greatest thing about the live versions of concerts is that I get the Feel of the concert and the interaction with the audience. That's the whole magic to Journey and makes me smile every time. Sometimes, I feel like I'm right there, front and center at the concert, like the Detroit ROR concert.
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Postby Schon Rules All » Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:07 am

Live > Studio

La Raza Del Sol w/ Augeri, 01 DVD
Liberty w/ Augeri
When You Love A Woman w/ Augeri
Loving Touching Squeezin, 01 DVD and The Greatest Hits Live... I dream of combining the two versions someday
Mother, Father w/ Perry, Live In Houston

Studio > Live
Anyway You Want It
Wheel In The Sky ( I Hate the way they always speed it up too fast )
Lights
I want a new tour bus filled with old guitars...
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Postby STORY_TELLER » Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:18 am

There's a lot of these, but here's my highlights:

Live >
Party's Over (Hopelessly in love)
Patiently
La Do Da
Opened the Door
Mother, Father w/ Perry

Studio >
Anyway You Want It
Wheel In The Sky
Send her my Love
Don't Stop Believin'
Stone in Love
Lady Luck

On the fence >
Who's cryin' now
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Postby Blueskies » Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:04 am

Deb wrote:
Johnny Mohawk wrote:Deb wrote;
Perry's Stand Up Before It's Too Late from FTLOSM was one I could take or leave until I heard it live, love it much better live.


I believe that the only songs from FTLOSM that Perry performed live were; "You Better Wait", "Missing You", "Listen to Your Heart" and "Somewhere There's Hope".


I have a New Jersey FTLSM boot that he performed that one on, come to think of it that's the only boot I've heard it on. I'll upload it later for ya if you're interested.
I'll save you the trouble, Deb...I've got it right here.

Here ya go, Johnny...
Lincoln Brewster did a really good solo in this.

Somewhere Theres Hope~ FTLOSM, New Jersey

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Postby Johnny Mohawk » Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:14 am

TVL wrote;
I'll save you the trouble, Deb...I've got it right here.

Here ya go, Johnny...
Lincoln Brewster did a really good solo in this.

Somewhere Theres Hope~ FTLOSM, New Jersey


Actually, we were talking about "Stand Up (Before It's Too Late)".
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Postby Deb » Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:15 am

Johnny Mohawk wrote:
TVL wrote;
I'll save you the trouble, Deb...I've got it right here.

Here ya go, Johnny...
Lincoln Brewster did a really good solo in this.

Somewhere Theres Hope~ FTLOSM, New Jersey


Actually, we were talking about "Stand Up (Before It's Too Late)".


Here ya go. Stand Up (FTLSM 02-13-95 NJ)

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Postby Blueskies » Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:18 am

Johnny Mohawk wrote:
TVL wrote;
I'll save you the trouble, Deb...I've got it right here.

Here ya go, Johnny...
Lincoln Brewster did a really good solo in this.

Somewhere Theres Hope~ FTLOSM, New Jersey


Actually, we were talking about "Stand Up (Before It's Too Late)".
Opps!..sorry...had that one ready to go for someone else and mixed 'em up! :lol: ...but I see Deb got ya. 8)
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