No More Tapes

[*Laura]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRB98dibQ6c


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUmxqbZW3Pw

[Saint John]

I'd like to make that chick sing.

[Saint John]

This is how Perry's voice sounded in Brand New Start...like it had been computer enhanced/altered.

[journeyrock]

Whatever happened to good old fashioned singing with accompaniment. Guess these are the reasons we have the music we do today, with not much talent attached.

[Saint John]

Hopefully, Perry got one of these from Santa.

[*Laura]

This is how Perry's voice sounded in Brand New Start...like it had been computer enhanced/altered.

I'd be surprised if Pack didn't have this in the studio.Maybe not this version,but something similar for sure.

[BobbyinTN]

That thing is fuckin' awesome. And it's only 800 bucks.

It is cool though.

[TRAGChick]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRB98dibQ6c


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUmxqbZW3Pw

Freakin' JANK-ASS!!!

I did my OWN harmonies; 3-part, 2 voxlines each....

Had a Producer thinking I used something like THAT piece of shit.

[Rip Rokken]

Freakin' JANK-ASS!!!

!!!

[scarygirl]

Hopefully, Perry got one of these from Santa.

Whatever works.

[Perrydise]

She has had a fresh pedicure.

[TRAGChick]

She has had a fresh pedicure.

Don't know if that was directed at ME....

But anyway....back to the subject at hand:

An example of my own 3-part harmony, 2 voxlines each can be found at the MySpace page listed below:

"11th House" is the song.....3/4 of the way thru....it's done a-cappella....

[Perrydise]

She has had a fresh pedicure.

Don't know if that was directed at ME....

But anyway....back to the subject at hand:

An example of my own 3-part harmony, 2 voxlines each can be found at the MySpace page listed below:

"11th House" is the song.....3/4 of the way thru....it's done a-cappella....

No Nora that WASN'T directed at you. I am sorry you thought so.

[TRAGChick]

She has had a fresh pedicure.

Don't know if that was directed at ME....

But anyway....back to the subject at hand:

An example of my own 3-part harmony, 2 voxlines each can be found at the MySpace page listed below:

"11th House" is the song.....3/4 of the way thru....it's done a-cappella....

No Nora that WASN'T directed at you. I am sorry you thought so.

OK....

It's all good; don't worry about it.

[TRAGChick]

She has had a fresh pedicure.

DUH...I just GOT it....

it's because she had no shoes on, and pushing all those buttons with her toes.

STILL doesn't cover up the fact that girlfriend can't harmonize herself worth SHIT....:twisted:

[journeyrock]

Hopefully, Perry got one of these from Santa.

One can only hope!!!!!!! And that he uses it for something other than a coaster.

[Marzdog]

Very scary! I'd almost LOVE to see an "average Joe" fire this thing up and get some Perry like sounds out of it. There is a guy on YouTube who calls out some rapper (TPAIN), saying that the guy can't sing and uses the TC Helicon machine as a means of saying "this is how the dude does it."

If JoeVana or JSS are out there (not that either of you need it), what are your experiences, if any, with this device?

[stevew2]

Thats cool have Friga sing,and put Perrys vocals in on top

[texafana]

These have been around for years. Combined with real time pitch correction you can do some amazing things. Tape (or digital sampled background tracks) will still be used when needed because they free the performer from having to actually sing, the unit shown in this demo still requires an actual vocal to be singing in order to work. I believe Journey uses (or used) one of these in songs like "Separate Ways" and John was triggering it with the chords played on the synth. Now days anyone can afford these, years ago they were only used by the elite.

[MrsPerry]

that is some cool shit!:)

[larryfromnextdoor]

ive never met a singer with enough talent to sing and tap this little thing at the same time.. who has time to tap live?

hey nora.. you need a fresh pedicure! i dont know why!

[Marzdog]

Rick Savage from Def Leppard

ive never met a singer with enough talent to sing and tap this little thing.. who has time to tap live?

[journeyrock]

Thats cool have Friga sing,and put Perrys vocals in on top

my point exactly. See, they could still tour with Perry. Just put a computerized Perry on the stage.

[BobbyinTN]

I LOVE the idea of the harmonies, but in a studio setting, I'd still rather take my time and layer those vocals, because perfection isn't always the object, it's emotion.

If you get the chance listen to my song "Always, My Love" and at the very end, I'm doing a lot of different vocals, I think there's like 9 tracks of vocals going on and while they are not perfect, they set a mood.

Oh, it's a home recording, so don't expect professional perfection. LOL

http://www.myspace.com/bobbysmusicplace

BGV come in at 2:36

[TRAGChick]

I LOVE the idea of the harmonies, but in a studio setting, I'd still rather take my time and layer those vocals, because perfection isn't always the object, it's emotion.

If you get the chance listen to my song "Always, My Love" and at the very end, I'm doing a lot of different vocals, I think there's like 9 tracks of vocals going on and while they are not perfect, they set a mood.

Oh, it's a home recording, so don't expect professional perfection. LOL

http://www.myspace.com/bobbysmusicplace

BGV come in at 2:36

BRAVO!!! Excellent work!

[wildone]

Hopefully, Perry got one of these from Santa.

Heck yah then he can kick it down to ALL previous singers in this band!and new ones to ... he'll need it..

[AlienC]

These have been around for years. Combined with real time pitch correction you can do some amazing things. Tape (or digital sampled background tracks) will still be used when needed because they free the performer from having to actually sing, the unit shown in this demo still requires an actual vocal to be singing in order to work. I believe Journey uses (or used) one of these in songs like "Separate Ways" and John was triggering it with the chords played on the synth. Now days anyone can afford these, years ago they were only used by the elite.

For years there have been many ideas bandied about regarding the "JOURNEY / Roy Thomas Baker Sound|" aka stacked vocals.
Until I actually observed the process I, too was under the impression that their signature sound was the result of an electronic device.
At the time, there was much talk about the Eventide Harmoniser being "the box", however a box alone simply does not do it.
Their sound is the result of singing the various notes of the harmony part, as a group, in unison, then "stacking" those notes on the multi-track machine in use at that time.
Then as each part is sung, they will change the predominant voice for that note, depending on whose range it most suits.
That simply involves stepping closer to the microphone as the group sings that particular section.
By recording each section seperately, the producer, or the one who wields the most power, can then arrange the voicing of that harmony to suit himself.
The resulting chorale sound is quite remarkable. This way, even the weakest vocalist in a group adds to the "whole sound", and is less likely to shift off pitch due to the reinforcing aspect of group singing.
It's super easy to do, quick, and requires very little real skill on the part of the singers. You simply need throats.
One of them sound a little off? stick him in the back row, facing away from the mic. It'll add character.
Got a real characteristic voice you wish to imprint on the collective psyche? Let him stay in the front, it'll drive people nuts trying to figure out who is singing what.

As to JC triggering vox tracks from Keyboard World, these have always been samples taken from the original tracks, stored on an HD in a sampler of one variety or another.
This corresponding sample is key mapped to a specific region during that part in that song. This sample can then either be a sequence, played from the sampler's HD, or triggered via keystrokes on any MIDI interconnected triggering keyboard allowing for real time player interaction.


I'm surprised there isn't a Pro-Tools (tm) plug-in that does this, although there very well may be, as much as I'm not involved anymore.

[*Laura]

http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=IIO2qpSsUTA

[Rick]

http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=IIO2qpSsUTA

That is cool.

[*Laura]

http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=IIO2qpSsUTA

That is cool.

It is,huh? During her live shows she uses that loop pedal and she does an amazing job with it.A true "one woman show".

That girl is an awesome singer.Well,I've posted the clip just for the sake of the thread subject,but she's worth listening to nonethless...
She's very appreciated in Europe.Couple of years back when I first heard this song of hers (BH&TCH) I thought it was Annie Lennox.