Survivor vs. Bryan Adams

[Rockindeano]

13 is a good dude. He knows we are jokin with him, and if he doesn't I can see his scrawny ass jumping out from behind the sofa, with an eye patch on, and Eye of the Tiger jamming off his ghetto blaster...we all know 13 is not exactly hi tech.; dude rolls with no cell phone, and word has it at home, he has a rotary dial horn. Anyway, 13, furious with the public slams on MR, lunges out at Canseco, who is back on the juice, although he is hammered. Jose is useless while hammered, and he just falls down at Red13's feet.

To be continued....

LMAO, funniest part is Dan is now officially "Canseco". Originally named by JoePa.

Hey, I came up with the name Canseco, and also Lerch too. 13 thieved those names from moi.

[stevew2]

13 is a good dude. He knows we are jokin with him, and if he doesn't I can see his scrawny ass jumping out from behind the sofa, with an eye patch on, and Eye of the Tiger jamming off his ghetto blaster...we all know 13 is not exactly hi tech.; dude rolls with no cell phone, and word has it at home, he has a rotary dial horn. Anyway, 13, furious with the public slams on MR, lunges out at Canseco, who is back on the juice, although he is hammered. Jose is useless while hammered, and he just falls down at Red13's feet.

To be continued....

LMAO, funniest part is Dan is now officially "Canseco". Originally named by JoePa.

Hey, I came up with the name Canseco, and also Lerch too. 13 thieved those names from moi.

I heard "RunTo You today and thought of you. Everytime I here a Bryan Adams tune, I think of you,.Is that fucking gay or what? Kick ass song though.

[Journey/Survivor]

13 is a good dude. He knows we are jokin with him, and if he doesn't I can see his scrawny ass jumping out from behind the sofa, with an eye patch on, and Eye of the Tiger jamming off his ghetto blaster...we all know 13 is not exactly hi tech.; dude rolls with no cell phone, and word has it at home, he has a rotary dial horn. Anyway, 13, furious with the public slams on MR, lunges out at Canseco, who is back on the juice, although he is hammered. Jose is useless while hammered, and he just falls down at Red13's feet.

To be continued....

LMAO, funniest part is Dan is now officially "Canseco". Originally named by JoePa.

Hey, I came up with the name Canseco, and also Lerch too. 13 thieved those names from moi.

I heard "RunTo You today and thought of you. Everytime I here a Bryan Adams tune, I think of you,.Is that fucking gay or what? Kick ass song though.

Again, seriously, I do like some of Bryan Adams songs. But another member made a good point when they told me that Bryan Adams is more of a chick band, i.e. mostly chicks are into his music. If Bryan Adams were a movie he'd be a chick flick.

He does have some good songs, but most of his stuff is nothing to get excited about.

[annie89509]

my my, we've got quite a debate going on here. I voted for Bryan Adams because of all his successes as detailed, and I have his GH. I'm not that familiar with Survivor, only heard a few of their songs on the radio, and primarily digs regarding them being a wannabe Journey, and JJ being a poor man's SP.

[finalfight]

my my, we've got quite a debate going on here. I voted for Bryan Adams because of all his successes as detailed, and I have his GH. I'm not that familiar with Survivor, only heard a few of their songs on the radio, and primarily digs regarding them being a wannabe Journey, and JJ being a poor man's SP.

Regardless on the debate at hand there is no way in hell that Jimi Jamison is a poor man's Steve Perry. Completely different.

[annie89509]

my my, we've got quite a debate going on here. I voted for Bryan Adams because of all his successes as detailed, and I have his GH. I'm not that familiar with Survivor, only heard a few of their songs on the radio, and primarily digs regarding them being a wannabe Journey, and JJ being a poor man's SP.

Regardless on the debate at hand there is no way in hell that Jimi Jamison is a poor man's Steve Perry. Completely different.

Finalflight, I haven't heard enough of Jimi to form an opinion either way. This is what I have read from other people. Granted, they were probably Journey/SP fans. Can you give me some examples as to how they are different?

[mikemarrs]

i'll tell ya how i think they are different.

survivor fans although extremely devoted and forever loyal tend to err on the side of caution as far as getting their hopes up for any new music since they took so long for their latest effort.although time has healed many wounds there tends to be some sort of ligering distrust between former members.

journey fans are a very special breed indeed.most devotees while certainly judgemental are certainly understanding of any hiatus or break that members or former member might take.while there can be long gaps in quality product that fault certainly can't be laid at the feet of all personnel involved only certain members although the show does roll on but at a different aspect.

[Journey/Survivor]

my my, we've got quite a debate going on here. I voted for Bryan Adams because of all his successes as detailed, and I have his GH. I'm not that familiar with Survivor, only heard a few of their songs on the radio, and primarily digs regarding them being a wannabe Journey, and JJ being a poor man's SP.

Jimi Jamison is second to none as a lead vocalist.
And for the record Steve Perry is my second favorite singer of all time.

Steve Perry in his prime had a higher range than Jimi Jamison, but that's the only thing he had over Jamison.

[Matthew]

my my, we've got quite a debate going on here. I voted for Bryan Adams because of all his successes as detailed, and I have his GH. I'm not that familiar with Survivor, only heard a few of their songs on the radio, and primarily digs regarding them being a wannabe Journey, and JJ being a poor man's SP.

Regardless on the debate at hand there is no way in hell that Jimi Jamison is a poor man's Steve Perry. Completely different.

Finalflight, I haven't heard enough of Jimi to form an opinion either way. This is what I have read from other people. Granted, they were probably Journey/SP fans. Can you give me some examples as to how they are different?

Perry himself thought that Jamison was ripping him off in the 1980s - "That guy's got no class", I think he said - but I always thought this was a bit unfair. There are some similiarities but Jamison's style is a lot more direct and unfussy. There's no warbling or going off the scale with Jamison. I guess he's a bit more 'rock' and less 'R n B'. He's not as extraordinary as Perry but in terms of straightforward AOR singing Jamison is the best vocalist in the entire field, I reckon...well, him or Lou Gramm.

[Journey/Survivor]

i'll tell ya how i think they are different.

survivor fans although extremely devoted and forever loyal tend to err on the side of caution as far as getting their hopes up for any new music since they took so long for their latest effort.although time has healed many wounds there tends to be some sort of ligering distrust between former members.

journey fans are a very special breed indeed.most devotees while certainly judgemental are certainly understanding of any hiatus or break that members or former member might take.while there can be long gaps in quality product that fault certainly can't be laid at the feet of all personnel involved only certain members although the show does roll on but at a different aspect.

What are you talking about? Survivor have been cranking out the albums as of late. In 1988 they released "Too Hot to Sleep," and in 2006 they released "Reach." If that's not a band keeping busy then I don't know what is?

Obviously Survivor have been pissing off the fans with how few albums there have been since 1988. But there still one of the great Rock bands of all time.

[Matthew]

I guarantee you Jamison cannot sing the Guns n Roses stuff. Jamison sung very structured safe material in Survivor. That's why I think Survivor is lame. They never took chances.

I agree that Survivor tended to play it too safe but the whole Axel/Jamison debate is ridiculous. Do you really think Axel could sing on a Survivor album and make it work? Not a chance. It would sound horrible.

[Journey/Survivor]

my my, we've got quite a debate going on here. I voted for Bryan Adams because of all his successes as detailed, and I have his GH. I'm not that familiar with Survivor, only heard a few of their songs on the radio, and primarily digs regarding them being a wannabe Journey, and JJ being a poor man's SP.

Regardless on the debate at hand there is no way in hell that Jimi Jamison is a poor man's Steve Perry. Completely different.

Finalflight, I haven't heard enough of Jimi to form an opinion either way. This is what I have read from other people. Granted, they were probably Journey/SP fans. Can you give me some examples as to how they are different?

Perry himself thought that Jamison was ripping him off in the 1980s - "That guy's got no class", I think he said - but I always thought this was a bit unfair. There are some similiarities but Jamison's style is a lot more direct and unfussy. There's no warbling or going off the scale with Jamison. I guess he's a bit more 'rock' and less 'R n B'. He's not as extraordinary as Perry but in terms of straightforward AOR singing Jamison is the best vocalist in the entire field, I reckon...well, him or Lou Gramm.

Well, here's how I've always put it. Steve Perry had the most amazing voice, and Jamison has the best voice. What I mean by that is that Perry could hit those unbelievable notes and sound great doing it, and there are very few who could have ever come close to hitting those notes while still sounding like a man singing. But Jimi Jamison has the best sounding voice in the history of Rock music. As much soul as Perry has, and he has tons of it, Jamison has even better soul.

My top 3 favorite singers are...

#1 Jimi Jamison
#2 Steve Perry
#3 Lou Gramm

[Matthew]

my my, we've got quite a debate going on here. I voted for Bryan Adams because of all his successes as detailed, and I have his GH. I'm not that familiar with Survivor, only heard a few of their songs on the radio, and primarily digs regarding them being a wannabe Journey, and JJ being a poor man's SP.

Regardless on the debate at hand there is no way in hell that Jimi Jamison is a poor man's Steve Perry. Completely different.

Finalflight, I haven't heard enough of Jimi to form an opinion either way. This is what I have read from other people. Granted, they were probably Journey/SP fans. Can you give me some examples as to how they are different?

Perry himself thought that Jamison was ripping him off in the 1980s - "That guy's got no class", I think he said - but I always thought this was a bit unfair. There are some similiarities but Jamison's style is a lot more direct and unfussy. There's no warbling or going off the scale with Jamison. I guess he's a bit more 'rock' and less 'R n B'. He's not as extraordinary as Perry but in terms of straightforward AOR singing Jamison is the best vocalist in the entire field, I reckon...well, him or Lou Gramm.

Well, here's how I've always put it. Steve Perry had the most amazing voice, and Jamison has the best voice. What I mean by that is that Perry could hit those unbelievable notes and sound great doing it, and there are very few who could have ever come close to hitting those notes while still sounding like a man singing. But Jimi Jamison has the best sounding voice in the history of Rock music. As much soul as Perry has, and he has tons of it, Jamison has even better soul.

My top 3 favorite singers are...

#1 Jimi Jamison
#2 Steve Perry
#3 Lou Gramm

Jamison is brilliant to be sure but take him out of a narrow AOR context and put him next to the all-time greats - Elvis, Mercury, Franklin etc - he starts to seem a bit limited I reckon. Perry - on the other hand - sounds extraordinary no matter who you compare him to.

[Matthew]

As for the poll...I voted for Survivor. And despite what Deano's narcissism is telling him...it wasn't to spite him. To my ears there's something a bit empty about Bryan Adams' music. Loads of big gestures, very little authentic feeling. Rock music for people who don't like rock music.

[Journey/Survivor]

Jimi Jamison was the lead vocalist in a heavy metal band called "Cobra" just before he joined Survivor.
Jamison can do amazing impersonations (I'm talking about singing) of Elvis and Jim morrison.
Jamison was also in a southern Rock band called "Target" in the 1970's.
And Deep Purple asked him to be their lead singer back in the early 90's.
And he has sang backing vocals for a few heavy metal bands.

Jamison was at one time the first choice to play Jim Morrison in The Doors movie, but the film got delayed, and then when it was finally maid they went with Val Kilmer. But seriously, Jamison was the original first choice.

Jamison is actually quite versatile as a singer.

[Red13JoePa]

13 is a good dude. He knows we are jokin with him, and if he doesn't I can see his scrawny ass jumping out from behind the sofa, with an eye patch on, and Eye of the Tiger jamming off his ghetto blaster...we all know 13 is not exactly hi tech.; dude rolls with no cell phone, and word has it at home, he has a rotary dial horn. Anyway, 13, furious with the public slams on MR, lunges out at Canseco, who is back on the juice, although he is hammered. Jose is useless while hammered, and he just falls down at Red13's feet.

To be continued....

LMAO, funniest part is Dan is now officially "Canseco". Originally named by JoePa.

Hey, I came up with the name Canseco, and also Lerch too. 13 thieved those names from moi.

Uh uh.
No way.
I will NOT concede on that. Lerch, maybe, but I coined Canseco.

Dano, of course, just rolls with it as Canseco's not exactly a bad-looking dude.

SinJin, your joke was funny, if factually improbable.

3 beers and drunk? Me?
That's like a great white inhaling a fleck of tuna as he swims along...gonna take a lot more than that.

I went double digits @ company function the other night AND came home and had 2 hairs of the dog.
NealIsGod showed me how to DRINK, EastCoast pride.

[Saint John]

13 is a good dude. He knows we are jokin with him, and if he doesn't I can see his scrawny ass jumping out from behind the sofa, with an eye patch on, and Eye of the Tiger jamming off his ghetto blaster...we all know 13 is not exactly hi tech.; dude rolls with no cell phone, and word has it at home, he has a rotary dial horn. Anyway, 13, furious with the public slams on MR, lunges out at Canseco, who is back on the juice, although he is hammered. Jose is useless while hammered, and he just falls down at Red13's feet.

To be continued....

LMAO, funniest part is Dan is now officially "Canseco". Originally named by JoePa.

Hey, I came up with the name Canseco, and also Lerch too. 13 thieved those names from moi.

Uh uh.
No way.
I will NOT concede on that. Lerch, maybe, but I coined Canseco.

Dano, of course, just rolls with it as Canseco's not exactly a bad-looking dude.

SinJin, your joke was funny, if factually improbable.

3 beers and drunk? Me?
That's like a great white inhaling a fleck of tuna as he swims along...gonna take a lot more than that.

I went double digits @ company function the other night AND came home and had 2 hairs of the dog.
NealIsGod showed me how to DRINK, EastCoast pride.

LOL...I was just fuckin' with ya, man. We'll see how you roll in person this summer. I swear I'm gonna make it out there.

[Red13JoePa]

Canseco should be punching to work (and therefore logging on ) pretty soon now...

[Vladan]

I had to choose "We're all winners here" both are good choices. Even though I prefer Survivors songs, Brian Adams has killer hits as well

[Saint John]

Canseco should be punching to work (and therefore logging on ) pretty soon now...

You rang?

[piecesofeight]

While I liked a lot of what BA did..I never considered him to be a great singer. In his prime..Jimi was much better.

[stevew2]

As for the poll...I voted for Survivor. And despite what Deano's narcissism is telling him...it wasn't to spite him. To my ears there's something a bit empty about Bryan Adams' music. Loads of big gestures, very little authentic feeling. Rock music for people who don't like rock music.

Where in the fuck have you been Matthew??

[Vladan]

In is prime..Jimi was much better.

!

[Vladan]

Rock music for people who don't like rock music.

Now that statement, I can agree with. I have aunties that dislike Rock, but they have Brian Adams in their collection, it's safe rock music, and you won't get looked down upon for having a BA CD in your easy listening collection.

[Saint John]

While I liked a lot of what BA did..I never considered him to be a great singer. In is prime..Jimi was much better.

And what does his "prime" consist of? Rocky III and IV?

[Journey/Survivor]

Rock music for people who don't like rock music.

Now that statement, I can agree with. I have aunties that dislike Rock, but they have Brian Adams in their collection, it's safe rock music, and you won't get looked down upon for having a BA CD in your easy listening collection.

The dental hygienist at my dentists office is a big Bryan Adams fan, she's a 50 year old soccer mom with 3 daughters.

If someone likes Bryan Adams music that's cool, I like some of his songs. But when I saw him in concert in the early 90's it had the same excitment level that the Billy Joel concert had that I went to in the mid 90's. Their both good performers with a bunch of good songs, but they aren't in the same league as Journey, Survivor, Foreigner etc, etc.

[piecesofeight]

While I liked a lot of what BA did..I never considered him to be a great singer. In is prime..Jimi was much better.

And what does his "prime" consist of? Rocky III and IV?

I actually got talked into seeing Survivor live in Seattle at the Paramount Theatre in 1986. I was blown away. His voice was amazing that night. Granted..that's a great place to see a concert..but he sounded amazing..and I am picky on the lead singer actually being able to sing and carry a note. As far as putting a concert on the top of my list where I remember being impressed with a lead singer..that would be one of them.

[Journey/Survivor]

Jimi Jamison STILL sounds damn good! He may not sound quite as good as he did in the 1980's, but he's not far off from sounding that good. Plus, let's not forget he's in his mid 50's or so, so of course he's going to have lost at least a little bit for that reason alone.

Dave Bickler is a damn good singer too. He's very underrated.

[Rockindeano]

(BA and Billy Joel)) aren't in the same league as Journey, Survivor, Foreigner etc, etc.

LOL. FACT-- All those bands you just cited would open for Adams or Billy J today.

Dumb fuck.

[Saint John]

(BA and Billy Joel)) aren't in the same league as Journey, Survivor, Foreigner etc, etc.

LOL. FACT-- All those bands you just cited would open for Adams or Billy J today.

Dumb fuck.

Survivor would be lucky if they were able to open for Hannah Montana.