ohsherrie wrote:ProgRocker53 wrote:This guy right here became a fan through Neal's guitar.

Well, this woman right here has heard that they had a fanbase of some sort before Steve joined them, but not enough to get on the radio or keep a record contract. In fact, this woman has witnessed that they couldn't keep a record contract or get on the radio after they decided to "move on" without him. Go figure.

I give two shits about hits. The pre-Perry music is great, and Rolie's vocals are amazing too. People always talk about the chills and feelings and emotions they get when Perry emotes in "Mother, Father" and "Faithfully" and "Sweet and Simple" and such... and righteously so. I get them too. BUT... there are many Rolie vocal moments that are just as emotional and gripping as Perry's, even if "technically" inferior. Look no further than "Look Into the Future," "In My Lonely Feeling/Conversations," "In the Morning Day" and "Of a Lifetime" for some absolutely beautiful Rolie vocals. If it's the singer and not the song... then why don't people fawn over Rolie's work as much, when he's an amazing vocalist in his own right? Those songs can be downright majestic.
While Journey's greatest overall period is undoubtedly 78-86, fact of the matter is, just enough credit should go to Smitty and Cain as it should to Perry. While I dearly LOVE Gregg and Aynsley's work, the streamlined killer Journey hitmaking formula didn't come into fruitition until after Smitty and Cain came along.
Infinity was still very progressive-sounding in a lot of parts, especially because of Aynsley's huge pounding swoopy patterns. Enter Smitty, and the drumming becomes more concise and alot of the music loses that prog/Brit-rock vibe and enters more pop-rock territory. Enter Cain, and out goes the then-dated sound of the organ, and enter the poppy piano and synth. Success!
I believe that if Journey would've continued on with their
Infinity or
Evolution/Departure lineups into the 80s, they would've been mired in the same vibe/sound, and wouldn't've had as many chart-topping hit singles. It's Friga, really, who is most responsible for their popular success. After all, it's many thanks to Friga that Perry had such wonderful songs to sing over. I'm not complaining, really, that there weren't more mystic-sounding prog Journey songs... I love the fact that they evolved so much and gave Journey a wealth of different sounds and vibes. But, before we give ALL credit to Perry for being responsible for their hit success... look no further than Cain and Smitty. After all, if I remember correctly, all the hit singles from
Infinity didn't get their success until later on in Journey's career, and charted very low when they were first put out.