I had not heard this one...

[venomnation]

Very Cool..

Augeri Singing "When You Love A Woman" - did not know they did that one..didn't realize he did anything from TBF

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUJ8AkrPEUE

[belar]

At various shows, SA did:

When You Love A Woman
Castles Burning
Can't Tame The Lion
One More
If He Should Break Your Heart

[Enigma869]

I personally think it's AWFUL! I always thought Augeri struggled, mightily, trying to sing Perry's material. I think he struggles even more on this track, which is somewhat surprising, because it's simply not a difficult song to sing. There aren't nearly as many highs to hit, as there are on so many other Journey tracks.


John from Boston

[Liquid_Drummer]

Man I must correct you on saying this isnt a hard song to sing. I cant explain why but the later material while lower in register is harder to sing for me. Im sure you heard my covers and I did stuff that was way higher and had no problems but when I tried this one it was very hard and I bailed on it. What SP lost in range he made up in emotion and the way he pronouced things changed and made the TBF stuff hard to sing..

[annie89509]

Let's face it, anyone they get to sing those songs originated by SP is going to be compared to how the man himself sang those songs, and they will pale in comparison. The exception was JSS, who brought a new dimension to the songs, simply by the fact that his vocal tone and timbre were different than SP's.

Arnel is in the same category. I have no interest in hearing him sing songs originated by SP. I will, however, give new songs a fair chance.

[brywool]

damn, Augeri sings it okay as far as throat tension, but gawd, his pitch is HORRENDOUS. That can happen if YOUR VOICE is too loud in your in ear monitors. While they help you sing better, if you have no reference for your pitch, your pitch, or your voice is too loud, your pitch is going to suffer. You know, there are instant pitch correction effects that he could've used. Wonder why they didn't do that. His pitch was dodgy at MANY shows.

[stevew2]

Man I must correct you on saying this isnt a hard song to sing. I cant explain why but the later material while lower in register is harder to sing for me. Im sure you heard my covers and I did stuff that was way higher and had no problems but when I tried this one it was very hard and I bailed on it. What SP lost in range he made up in emotion and the way he pronouced things changed and made the TBF stuff hard to sing..

I agree,I do Faithfully and used to do WYLAW,I had to drop it. It is a harder sound to sing. It didnt sound that bad, I heard him do it in 2003 and he sound much better on it.That was his first year with Journey, he struggled in 98> 2002 2003 was his best time with Journey IMHO

[Deb]

Let's face it, anyone they get to sing those songs originated by SP is going to be compared to how the man himself sang those songs, and they will pale in comparison. The exception was JSS, who brought a new dimension to the songs, simply by the fact that his vocal tone and timbre were different than SP's.

I found JSS' timbre close to Perry's on the ROR and TBF material. And I thought he pulled WYLAW off with the same soulful finesse as Perry. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gn8TzSoF1M

[brywool]

Let's face it, anyone they get to sing those songs originated by SP is going to be compared to how the man himself sang those songs, and they will pale in comparison. The exception was JSS, who brought a new dimension to the songs, simply by the fact that his vocal tone and timbre were different than SP's.

I found JSS' timbre close to Perry's on the ROR and TBF material. And I thought he pulled WYLAW off with the same soulful finesse as Perry. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gn8TzSoF1M

Pretty good. It's not that hard a song to sing for me. The end of Faithfully would be tough.
I think if Augeri's pitch was good, he would've done fine on the song. But man, it's terrible on that youtube clip. Yikes!

[annie89509]

Let's face it, anyone they get to sing those songs originated by SP is going to be compared to how the man himself sang those songs, and they will pale in comparison. The exception was JSS, who brought a new dimension to the songs, simply by the fact that his vocal tone and timbre were different than SP's.

I found JSS' timbre close to Perry's on the ROR and TBF material. And I thought he pulled WYLAW off with the same soulful finesse as Perry. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gn8TzSoF1M

Hehe, you are right, Deb. JSS sang the later songs a lot like SP with the lowered range. I thought the earlier songs sounded totally different. I have no musical background, just a lifetime of listening to music; tone/timbre, sometimes I get those 2 mixed up.

What has become apparent to the Journey guys is that there is simply to many fractions among the diehard fans. We have become too picky and hard to please. So, they're just going to play to the casual fans and milk their legacy for everything they could get.

[Enigma869]

I found JSS' timbre close to Perry's on the ROR and TBF material. And I thought he pulled WYLAW off with the same soulful finesse as Perry. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gn8TzSoF1M

I think Jeff's version is FAR better! Even though I was never convinced that Jeff was the right voice for Journey, he clearly has FAR more power in his voice than Augeri! I'm not the vocal expert that some are on this website, but, Augeri's voice just sounds FAR too thin (not sure if that's the appropriate lingo, but that's the only way I can articulate how it sounds to me) trying to sing most of these songs. I thought Augeri sounded superb on "Arrival". Those songs were obviously recorded, with his natural range in mind. When he tried to reach for notes in most of the other classic Journey tracks, he usually fell woefully short!


John from Boston

[stevew2]

Let's face it, anyone they get to sing those songs originated by SP is going to be compared to how the man himself sang those songs, and they will pale in comparison. The exception was JSS, who brought a new dimension to the songs, simply by the fact that his vocal tone and timbre were different than SP's.

I found JSS' timbre close to Perry's on the ROR and TBF material. And I thought he pulled WYLAW off with the same soulful finesse as Perry. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gn8TzSoF1M

Pretty good. It's not that hard a song to sing for me. The end of Faithfully would be tough.
I think if Augeri's pitch was good, he would've done fine on the song. But man, it's terrible on that youtube clip. Yikes!

The "Im still yours" part is a ball buster,I rarely hit that

[brywool]

I found JSS' timbre close to Perry's on the ROR and TBF material. And I thought he pulled WYLAW off with the same soulful finesse as Perry. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gn8TzSoF1M

I think Jeff's version is FAR better! Even though I was never convinced that Jeff was the right voice for Journey, he clearly has FAR more power in his voice than Augeri! I'm not the vocal expert that some are on this website, but, Augeri's voice just sounds FAR too thin (not sure if that's the appropriate lingo, but that's the only way I can articulate how it sounds to me) trying to sing most of these songs. I thought Augeri sounded superb on "Arrival". Those songs were obviously recorded, with his natural range in mind. When he tried to reach for notes in most of the other classic Journey tracks, he usually fell woefully short!


John from Boston

Power yes, range no.

[brywool]

Let's face it, anyone they get to sing those songs originated by SP is going to be compared to how the man himself sang those songs, and they will pale in comparison. The exception was JSS, who brought a new dimension to the songs, simply by the fact that his vocal tone and timbre were different than SP's.

I found JSS' timbre close to Perry's on the ROR and TBF material. And I thought he pulled WYLAW off with the same soulful finesse as Perry. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gn8TzSoF1M

Pretty good. It's not that hard a song to sing for me. The end of Faithfully would be tough.
I think if Augeri's pitch was good, he would've done fine on the song. But man, it's terrible on that youtube clip. Yikes!

The "Im still yours" part is a ball buster,I rarely hit that

Exactly the part I was talking about.
Got stuff posted of you singing?

[venomnation]

I found JSS' timbre close to Perry's on the ROR and TBF material. And I thought he pulled WYLAW off with the same soulful finesse as Perry. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gn8TzSoF1M

I think Jeff's version is FAR better! Even though I was never convinced that Jeff was the right voice for Journey, he clearly has FAR more power in his voice than Augeri! I'm not the vocal expert that some are on this website, but, Augeri's voice just sounds FAR too thin (not sure if that's the appropriate lingo, but that's the only way I can articulate how it sounds to me) trying to sing most of these songs. I thought Augeri sounded superb on "Arrival". Those songs were obviously recorded, with his natural range in mind. When he tried to reach for notes in most of the other classic Journey tracks, he usually fell woefully short!


John from Boston

Okay - but what are we comparing here. We've all agreed the journey catalog can WRECK someone's voice...and right now we're comparing someone who had been singing it for a few years, to someone who invariably HADN'T (not full time anyway) on the same song. I love JSS just as much as the next guy, but he had a clear advantage in sound there...

[Enigma869]

Okay - but what are we comparing here. We've all agreed the journey catalog can WRECK someone's voice...and right now we're comparing someone who had been singing it for a few years, to someone who invariably HADN'T (not full time anyway) on the same song. I love JSS just as much as the next guy, but he had a clear advantage in sound there...

Honestly, I'm not really "comparing" anything. I was simply offering my observation on the performance you posted of Augeri. I thought it was dreadful! The guy's voice was all over the place. I've heard some good performances out of Augeri. That simply wasn't one of them. As I posted, I believe Augeri struggled, mightily trying to sing Journey's catalog! He simply never had the range to sing the songs in the key they were supposed to be sung in. I liked the guy as a singer. I just didn't like him singing the back catalog, because most nights, he simply couldn't do it! To this day, I still listen to "Arrival", and enjoy it, immensely. I simply cringe when I hear the poor guy trying to hit Perry's high notes, because more times than not, his voice simply fell apart!


John from Boston

[stevew2]

Let's face it, anyone they get to sing those songs originated by SP is going to be compared to how the man himself sang those songs, and they will pale in comparison. The exception was JSS, who brought a new dimension to the songs, simply by the fact that his vocal tone and timbre were different than SP's.

I found JSS' timbre close to Perry's on the ROR and TBF material. And I thought he pulled WYLAW off with the same soulful finesse as Perry. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gn8TzSoF1M

Pretty good. It's not that hard a song to sing for me. The end of Faithfully would be tough.
I think if Augeri's pitch was good, he would've done fine on the song. But man, it's terrible on that youtube clip. Yikes!

The "Im still yours" part is a ball buster,I rarely hit that

Exactly the part I was talking about.
Got stuff posted of you singing?

Not right now,i am computor challenged. I fuck up my posting and spelling half the time, {you know that} We are are getting a demo tape together next month, ill try something then. My keyboard skills are close to Cains, my vocals are nowhere close to Perrys Augeris, or Arnels, I am an average singer, but I will play the shit out of a piano in a heart beat. If Cain ever got the rear end crazys one night,Id play that whale,{after I dissenfect it} Like a somabitch. All night.