"Songs Noticeably Slowed Down" ....or not?

by **ProgRocker53** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:25 pm

kmjrr wrote:Dan Clavadetscher's review of the Las Vegas show stated that "the new Journey led by Pineda was not tight, the songs were noticeably slowed down..."
So I picked 2 songs at random and ripped the audio from the following YouTube clips:
Don't Stop Believin' - http://youtube.com/watch?v=MU_zMr1yIcw
Separate Ways - http://youtube.com/watch?v=EZ72gCMySaA

I next loaded the audio into my sound editing software and played them simultaneously with the audio of the same songs from Reno 2006 (JSS). The result: Both Vegas 2008 clips stayed exactly in sync with the Reno 2006 clips.

Ray

by **Andrew** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:28 pm

I think the consensus is that no - they were not slowed down (any more than perhaps alreadyhave been over the years...)

So with that in mind, I edited that part out of Dan's review. I don't liek to edit in hindsight, but in this case I think it was ok and fair to do so.

by **stevew2** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:35 pm

Andrew wrote:I think the consensus is that no - they were not slowed down (any more than perhaps alreadyhave been over the years...)

So with that in mind, I edited that part out of Dan's review. I don't liek to edit in hindsight, but in this case I think it was ok and fair to do so.

Editing out someones review thats not connected to MR ,might sound biased to some,your call.

by **dcvader** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:45 pm

Again! Andrew!!!!!!!

You are at it again!!!!!!!!!

The other day Dean TRASHES Jeremey for 3 to 5 pages and it stays on here for 2 days!!!!!!!!!!

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I use 2 cuss words in an entire thread (today) and it is locked ASAP.

Your boy can call somebody's wife a rotten **** and it stays on here for 3 days. WTF?

Your board, your fluid, ever changing rules.

by **7 Wishes** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:50 pm

Back off there, Don Quixote. Don't go chasing any more windmills.

Leave it alone, alright? Don't go looking for a fight. Go to that other dude's board if you want to do that.

by **ProgRocker53** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:53 pm

dcvader wrote:Again! Andrew!!!!!!!

You are at it again!!!!!!!!!

The other day Dean TRASHES Jeremey for 3 to 5 pages and it stays on here for 2 days!!!!!!!!!!

_____________

I use 2 cuss words in an entire thread (today) and it is locked ASAP.

Your boy can call somebody's wife a rotten **** and it stays on here for 3 days. WTF?

Your board, your fluid, ever changing rules.

Go HOME already, damn! I re-started this thread so people could have a legitimate conversation about this Journey topic and you come hi-ho-silvering your way in here and ruin it for us yet again.

by **dcvader** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:56 pm

ProgRocker53 wrote:
dcvader wrote:Again! Andrew!!!!!!!

You are at it again!!!!!!!!!

The other day Dean TRASHES Jeremey for 3 to 5 pages and it stays on here for 2 days!!!!!!!!!!

_____________

I use 2 cuss words in an entire thread (today) and it is locked ASAP.

Your boy can call somebody's wife a rotten **** and it stays on here for 3 days. WTF?

Your board, your fluid, ever changing rules.

Go HOME already, damn! I re-started this thread so people could have a legitimate conversation about this Journey topic and you come hi-ho-silvering your way in here and ruin it for us yet again.

Have fun PGR, you are the 2nd in command now. Enjoy your stimulating thread dude!

by **ProgRocker53** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:02 pm

dcvader wrote:
ProgRocker53 wrote:
dcvader wrote:Again! Andrew!!!!!!!

You are at it again!!!!!!!!!

The other day Dean TRASHES Jeremey for 3 to 5 pages and it stays on here for 2 days!!!!!!!!!!

_____________

I use 2 cuss words in an entire thread (today) and it is locked ASAP.

Your boy can call somebody's wife a rotten **** and it stays on here for 3 days. WTF?

Your board, your fluid, ever changing rules.

Go HOME already, damn! I re-started this thread so people could have a legitimate conversation about this Journey topic and you come hi-ho-silvering your way in here and ruin it for us yet again.

Have fun PGR, you are the 2nd in command now. Enjoy your stimulating thread dude!

Hey I will. Maybe you should stick around and get stimulated a bit yourself. If the "lejendawy caweew of Exotic Juh-Nee" drivel is all the better you folk can come up with, you'll need stimulation by the truckload!

by **ttango1** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:02 pm

I'm a staunch AP supporter and I can say that there wasn't any slowing down. I could see the guys were anxious at the beginnings of certain verses and that Ross and Jon would smile and nod at times, when the songs started perfectly.

Sitting from 103 Row H dead middle about 80 feet from Arnel...I can tell you that the reason they re-did faithfully is simply because the band started early and it didn't time with the video montage. I noticed that early on in Faithfully 1 when Arnel sings," Circus Life under the big top world, we all need the clowns..." The background showed clouds at that time everywhere,..."through space and time, always another..." Then you see a big top and converse tennis shoes on someones feet. So the timing of the video wasn't in line with the song. If you guys remember, you'll see a hand writing on what looks like black paper with a white pen...Arnel sings,"I'm forever yours....Faithfully." Then you see F-A-I-T-H-F-U-L-L-Y written.

Watch for it on the YT, make sure you watch both versions...you'll see it. Rip & SJ didn't believe me but I gotta an eye for stuff like that.

That apple-bottomed avatar is good, mine is better...mine moves!

by **Andrew** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:10 pm

dcvader wrote:Again! Andrew!!!!!!!

You are at it again!!!!!!!!!

The other day Dean TRASHES Jeremey for 3 to 5 pages and it stays on here for 2 days!!!!!!!!!!

_____________

I use 2 cuss words in an entire thread (today) and it is locked ASAP.

Your boy can call somebody's wife a rotten **** and it stays on here for 3 days. WTF?

Your board, your fluid, ever changing rules.

It's called a fucking WEEKEND mate. Am I not allowed 5 minutes away from this bloody board to relax???

The thread - once I saw it - was REMOVED! First thing Monday morning.

by **Andrew** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:11 pm

dcvader wrote:

Have fun PGR, you are the 2nd in command now. Enjoy your stimulating thread dude!

And how are YOU helping matters today?

by **STORY_TELLER** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:19 pm

Andrew, can I offer you an Advil? Excedrine? Sniper rifle with laser site and silencer attached?

by **7 Wishes** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:22 pm

dcvader wrote:
Have fun PGR, you are the 2nd in command now. Enjoy your stimulating thread dude!

Prog has contributed more to this board today than you have the entire time you've been on board. I've always thought you were a fire starter.

by **dcvader** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:41 pm

7 Wishes wrote:
dcvader wrote:
Have fun PGR, you are the 2nd in command now. Enjoy your stimulating thread dude!

I've always thought you were a fire starter.

Great closing line from 7 wishes!!!!!! WOW!

Not a fire starter (and you call me out - when there are INFERNO starters on this site, LMFAO!!!!!!!), just not on for the current "tide". You can drink the kool-aid.

Have a nice day!

by **Andrew** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:51 pm

Jeezuz....STFU already!

MR

"Songs Noticeably Slowed Down" ....or not?

"Songs Noticeably Slowed Down" ....or not?

I didn't hear a timing issue at all

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