The re-recorded classics disc...

[STORY_TELLER]

LARRY!!! You flaming ASSMUNCH! Damnit, I was all excited too! Fuck.

brother !! i am so sorry!!! bad joke for sure..

BULLSHIT!! IT WAS AN AWESOME JOKE!!!

Take a freakin' bow Larry!

[7 Wishes]

I'm no Fabio but I've pulled some above-average tail myself. It's not the spandex pants here, but maybe it's because I keep it real? No clue, but I'm proud of myself, haha.

I can't stand high-maintenance women. I like women that take care of themselves, but not to the extremes that some of these ladies take it.

Come on, dude. You're young, talented, and intelligent. Women dig that.

[mikemarrs]

LARRY!!! You flaming ASSMUNCH! Damnit, I was all excited too! Fuck.

brother !! i am so sorry!!! bad joke for sure..

BULLSHIT!! IT WAS AN AWESOME JOKE!!!

Take a freakin' bow Larry!

when he first posted the tracks i actually thought maybe they were sparing us from the same 'ol bullshit greatest hits rehash and doing something challenging like the 2005 thing where they did a lot of pre perry stuff and left field things.i couldn't wait to hear arnel do 'spaceman' and 'can do'

[stevew2]

Eh. I was a lead singer in a number of bands over the years. In spite of my mediocre looks and huge nose, I still managed to date some good-looking women. It must have been the spandex Diamond Dave fire pants.

Anyway...my experience...women like that are ridiculously high-maintenance. My ex-wife...case in point.

I'm no Fabio but I've pulled some above-average tail myself. It's not the spandex pants here, but maybe it's because I keep it real? No clue, but I'm proud of myself, haha.

I can't stand high-maintenance women. I like women that take care of themselves, but not to the extremes that some of these ladies take it.

When did you start liking women?

[sniper16]

people they are not releasing this as a stand alone or charging 25.00+ for this . its a bonus disc 2 cds and a dvd(if its a dvd,and not a computer vid disc) for 15.00 if columbia released it it would be 39.99, most will listen find so of it interesting, the perry people will hate it, and we will all survive, and find a few tracks for the new material to like/love .
im not sold on caveman i didnt like the production on TBF, would have prefered elson to produce.
i just hope they spent more time/money that they did on generations

[Carlitto H@kk]

im not sold on caveman i didnt like the production on TBF, would have prefered elson to produce.
i just hope they spent more time/money that they did on generations

Actually, Elson produced Generations and it sounds like shit!
Shirley produced Arrival and it sounds pretty damn good.

I had thought Elson would bring back that warm Escape/Frontiers sound/production to Generations.
Not sure what went wrong.

[Melissa]

I'll listen to it at least once. I was in the minority in wanting to hear them with Jeff's voice too, mainly because Journey & Steve Perry are big influences for him, & I just love how he sings the songs (same thing with how he sings Queen's songs). I still would love to have had a disc with his voice on them. Sucks that will never happen. Nothing can top the originals of course, but I'll still listen to it at least once, what the hell.

[Red13JoePa]

The rerecording to me seems too novelty-ish. I dont see why people care so much. The original versions will never be mistaken for them if the listeners have a clue.

Exactly right.

Such stamping of feet and gnashing of teeth from haters.

Unless the cover of Revelation looks exactly like the very recognizeable greatest hits album cover the band can't legitimately be accused of attempting to fool people into thinking this is the 1988 GH.

Something the band's wanted to do for some time, other bands have done it, no big deal nothing more than that.

[Deb]

I'll listen to it at least once. I was in the minority in wanting to hear them with Jeff's voice too, mainly because Journey & Steve Perry are big influences for him, & I just love how he sings the songs (same thing with how he sings Queen's songs). I still would love to have had a disc with his voice on them. Sucks that will never happen. Nothing can top the originals of course, but I'll still listen to it at least once, what the hell.

My thoughts exactly Mel!

people they are not releasing this as a stand alone or charging 25.00+ for this . its a bonus disc 2 cds and a dvd(if its a dvd,and not a computer vid disc) for 15.00 if columbia released it it would be 39.99, most will listen find so of it interesting, the perry people will hate it, and we will all survive, and find a few tracks for the new material to like/love .

Not necessarily true. I'm a major Perry person (and Soto). And have been listening with an open mind. I was impressed with that AWYWI/OTY clip from Vegas and like a couple of the new songs. The Journey (with Soto/Perry) excitement is gone for me, but as time goes on I am realizing one thing......I like hearing that great music played live. I have little to no respect left for Cain & Schon after what happened with JSS, but I still love the music. And do have to thank them bigtime for exposing me to the talents of JSS.

But if I can't hear Perry singing After The Fall live, have to say it was great hearing Deen sing it.

[Melissa]

Me too Deb, & thanks. It is all about the music now, don't care about the rest, not worth it. Jeff will put out an awesome album soon, & I'm excited about Journey's now too after what I heard live, so we'll have great new music to listen to on all sides

[youkeepmewaiting]

Well i chose "listen to it with an open mind", i'm paying the money for it. Although the new songs will be in my CD player before anything else.

[Just Sara]

....what will you be doing with it?

I might listen to part of it if the DVD is good, but I've always thought that it'd be cool to have a coaster with a scarab on it. jk

[StevePerryHair]

I'll listen to it at least once. I was in the minority in wanting to hear them with Jeff's voice too, mainly because Journey & Steve Perry are big influences for him, & I just love how he sings the songs (same thing with how he sings Queen's songs). I still would love to have had a disc with his voice on them. Sucks that will never happen. Nothing can top the originals of course, but I'll still listen to it at least once, what the hell.

Yeah, me too. And I still have that "cheated" feeling I've had since Jeff was let go. Even when we watched the concert, as much as I enjoyed Arnel, and I think he is a great talent, I still couldn't get rid of that "it should have been Jeff" feeling out of my head. Part of it was still having a bit of anger left for the rest of the band for how things went down. But like you said too, we will have our JSS album, so we will have music from all sides. I think the JSS album is coming out in June also if I remember correctly. It is what it is now, and we have to accept it or move along. I guess for now I'll accept it. Not quite ready to give up yet. Time will tell.

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

This disc could be great news.

Several years ago, my ex-wife left me when I played Generations in the marital home, and I got done in the courts for being a cruel spouse on that point alone. Now, Gnipper ( my Black Labrador) has that CD as a Frisbee, but is threatening to leave me - citing some little know city ordinance where I live against making your dog play with embarrassing looking pet toys. (apparently is was intended so people woundn't give their pets toys in the shape of willies, etc., but I'm told that a GENERATIONS is on that list as a potenitally embarrasing toy)

The disc might just lighten up Gnippers life, give him someting new to chase n chew on.

[lparn]

does not matter as have no intention of buying this package regardless of the price.

[RocknRoll]

does not matter as have no intention of buying this package regardless of the price.

Just curious if you have the Arrival DVD? Woudn't that basically be considered re-recording the hits + 2?

[Greg]

does not matter as have no intention of buying this package regardless of the price.

Just curious if you have the Arrival DVD? Woudn't that basically be considered re-recording the hits + 2?

No, completely different story. Live versions don't count as re-records.

[scarygirl]

LOL Larry! But thank gawd, I can barely even listen to Perry's version of Can Do.........

You lady are an anarchist. Can't listen to Perry's version of Can Do. Has the world gone mad?

Not saying it's the world best song, but man those VOCALS. Me loves it when my Steve Perry sounds angry.

P.S. Still love you anyway.

[Saint John]

does not matter as have no intention of buying this package regardless of the price.

Just curious if you have the Arrival DVD? Woudn't that basically be considered re-recording the hits + 2?

No, completely different story. Live versions don't count as re-records.

Well, the re-records were recorded "live" a la the old way. They went into the studio, recorded them live and then edited them (are editing them) where they felt it necessary. I guess it would be considered mostly live. I'm just happy it isn't Arnel's vocals over the old tracks. I think the fact that they redid every piece of the music will give it a fresh, different sound.

[SteveForever]

[Greg]

does not matter as have no intention of buying this package regardless of the price.

Just curious if you have the Arrival DVD? Woudn't that basically be considered re-recording the hits + 2?

No, completely different story. Live versions don't count as re-records.

Well, the re-records were recorded "live" a la the old way. They went into the studio, recorded them live and then edited them (are editing them) where they felt it necessary. I guess it would be considered mostly live. I'm just happy it isn't Arnel's vocals over the old tracks. I think the fact that they redid every piece of the music will give it a fresh, different sound.

Live recordings and re-records of studio versions are two completely different animals. If that wasn't the case, Perry would've never allowed the 2001 DVD to be released. To my understanding from what I've read in the past, Perry had certain rights to the music which didn't allow the band to go back into the studio and re-record the songs with a different lead vocalist. Obviously now since those rights expired, Journey is going into the studio to re-record the hits with another lead singer.

And really, while I don't believe they'll use the old tracks, who's to say Journey wouldn't simply do this? It's the same difference.

[lparn]

im not sold on caveman i didnt like the production on TBF, would have prefered elson to produce.
i just hope they spent more time/money that they did on generations

Actually, Elson produced Generations and it sounds like shit!
Shirley produced Arrival and it sounds pretty damn good.

I had thought Elson would bring back that warm Escape/Frontiers sound/production to Generations.
Not sure what went wrong.

they should and could have taken a year or 2 off from touring to work on the cd and the sound and song choices and
culitvate the songwriting of the band members especially SA. I do not agree with letting everyone sing
and felt better life, gone crazy and self control were not the best tracks on the cd.
I think knowing that you love me was a good song with an awesome vocal however they never took the time they are taking no to do that cd and I think that is too bad. It was like a hurried job to get out and tour again where they wasted time with some of the first set and especially cutting the new songs from the set list.
I do not think the other members other than SA were really into and driving to make that cd the best.
It is too bad as there were some good songs on it and had they taken the time they took with this
"package" it would have been an awesome cd, and I disagree that it is only one particular person';s fault as stated in the 07 interviews.

[ScarabGator]

My choice is listen to it, turn friends on to it and do my part to get this disc on the charts. I am so looking forward to this release...I will probablt take off from work that Tuesday so I can be at WalMart the minute they put it out....

[SteveForever]

My choice is listen to it, turn friends on to it and do my part to get this disc on the charts. I am so looking forward to this release...I will probablt take off from work that Tuesday so I can be at WalMart the minute they put it out....

seriously? OMG! me too! let's camp out on the sidewalk the night before and
make it a total party!

[lparn]

My choice is listen to it, turn friends on to it and do my part to get this disc on the charts. I am so looking forward to this release...I will probablt take off from work that Tuesday so I can be at WalMart the minute they put it out....

I think I will sleep in and save my money. Have mentioned the release to a few people who have asked me what the band is doing, however I am not sure I will tell them to buy it or not.

[RocknRoll]

does not matter as have no intention of buying this package regardless of the price.

Just curious if you have the Arrival DVD? Woudn't that basically be considered re-recording the hits + 2?

No, completely different story. Live versions don't count as re-records.

Well, the re-records were recorded "live" a la the old way. They went into the studio, recorded them live and then edited them (are editing them) where they felt it necessary. I guess it would be considered mostly live. I'm just happy it isn't Arnel's vocals over the old tracks. I think the fact that they redid every piece of the music will give it a fresh, different sound.

Live recordings and re-records of studio versions are two completely different animals. If that wasn't the case, Perry would've never allowed the 2001 DVD to be released. To my understanding from what I've read in the past, Perry had certain rights to the music which didn't allow the band to go back into the studio and re-record the songs with a different lead vocalist. Obviously now since those rights expired, Journey is going into the studio to re-record the hits with another lead singer.

And really, while I don't believe they'll use the old tracks, who's to say Journey wouldn't simply do this? It's the same difference.

Yeah. I know you're right, but it just seems kind of ironic that some of the people complaining the loudest have a ton of audio boots of both SA and/or JSS singing the greatest hits.

[Greg]

does not matter as have no intention of buying this package regardless of the price.

Just curious if you have the Arrival DVD? Woudn't that basically be considered re-recording the hits + 2?

No, completely different story. Live versions don't count as re-records.

Well, the re-records were recorded "live" a la the old way. They went into the studio, recorded them live and then edited them (are editing them) where they felt it necessary. I guess it would be considered mostly live. I'm just happy it isn't Arnel's vocals over the old tracks. I think the fact that they redid every piece of the music will give it a fresh, different sound.

Live recordings and re-records of studio versions are two completely different animals. If that wasn't the case, Perry would've never allowed the 2001 DVD to be released. To my understanding from what I've read in the past, Perry had certain rights to the music which didn't allow the band to go back into the studio and re-record the songs with a different lead vocalist. Obviously now since those rights expired, Journey is going into the studio to re-record the hits with another lead singer.

And really, while I don't believe they'll use the old tracks, who's to say Journey wouldn't simply do this? It's the same difference.

Yeah. I know you're right, but it just seems kind of ironic that some of the people complaining the loudest have a ton of audio boots of both SA and/or JSS singing the greatest hits.

Why is that ironic? I don't mind listening to other people perform Journey songs live. To me, Augeri and Jeff singing those songs is basically their giving tribute to Steve Perry and Journey. When the band goes into the studio to re-record those same hits without Steve Perry (and now without his consent since he has no say so) I find that tasteless. If Steve Perry was involved, that would be a completely different story, but I still don't believe it's ever the right thing to do to re-record classic hits.

[styxman]

Would the Stones and Led Zep do this...absolutley fuckin' NO. There resteth my view. Now hold on..I've a fucken shed load to say on this shambles. 10% of the board get up close and personnal and suddenly they're the Journey fuckin' PR campaign...what a joke.

[Greg]

Would the Stones and Led Zep do this...absolutley fuckin' NO. There resteth my view. Now hold on..I've a fucken shed load to say on this shambles. 10% of the board get up close and personnal and suddenly they're the Journey fuckin' PR campaign...what a joke.

Exactly! Good post.

[RedWingFan]

Would the Stones and Led Zep do this...absolutley fuckin' NO. There resteth my view. Now hold on..I've a fucken shed load to say on this shambles. 10% of the board get up close and personnal and suddenly they're the Journey fuckin' PR campaign...what a joke.

Hi there styxie. Just remember the same thing happened when JSS joined. It was just as bad then.
M&G's were flying around here like crazy.