OT: Another blow to Scientology!

by **Rip Rokken** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:26 pm

I LOVE this stuff.... another actor leaving Scientology after working his way high up the ladder there, and boy does he mince NO words...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07m-IvvpK2E

by **mikemarrs** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:07 pm

i just got through reading the tom cruise book.talk about some very scary twisted shit.anybody that believes in that scientology shit has got to have a loose screw.the whole book basically states in the last twenty years the guy that heads scientology is tom cruise shadow every where he goes and basically runs the mans life.these people are like a cult and the believe in lying or killing for what the believe in and thats no shit and basically one of the top rules,lie at all costs or kill at all costs if you feel it.did anyone here know that scientology is one of the only corporations to ever face the IRS head on and the IRS backed down and got tax exempt status,look this up its true.they will dig dirt up on anyone and anybody to further the cause.even the government backed down so you know these are dangerous individuals.

by **mikemarrs** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:11 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPol_m8w ... re=related

these scientologists followed this camera guy home and picketed his home.lol

by **Sassie** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:47 pm

That is so disturbing. I am going to go wake my husband up and make him come in here and sleep. OMG!!!!! Religion is suppose to be a good thing. I don't get that and I don't get that cult thing down here in Texas either. Geez, I have goose bumps.

by **Abitaman** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:20 pm

No way does religion "save" you. Religion will send you to hell as fast as anything. Jesus is the only way. Good works, Religion, being a member of a church, being a good person,...none of this saves, may make you a better person. But trust and Faith in Christ is the answer. It is a same that the "religions" give others a bad name, it turns people away from church.-ERIC

by **Babyblue** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:48 pm

Iremember reading they tryed to get Elvis to join :lol:

He went in and came out and said all they wanted was money.He did not join that was enought for me.heehee And there is no way i would ever join them there to scary for me. :lol:

by **Rip Rokken** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:26 pm

Abitaman wrote:No way does religion "save" you. Religion will send you to hell as fast as anything. Jesus is the only way. Good works, Religion, being a member of a church, being a good person,...none of this saves, may make you a better person. But trust and Faith in Christ is the answer. It is a same that the "religions" give others a bad name, it turns people away from church.-ERIC

Amen! I agree 100%...

by **Rip Rokken** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:29 pm

mikemarrs wrote:did anyone here know that scientology is one of the only corporations to ever face the IRS head on and the IRS backed down and got tax exempt status,look this up its true.they will dig dirt up on anyone and anybody to further the cause.even the government backed down so you know these are dangerous individuals.

Absolutely -- it's scary. I always love showing off my favorite expose article on Scientology from Time Magazine (1991) -- well worth a read and very informative. Time has probably been made "clear" since then...

"The Thriving Cult of Greed and Power"
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... 65,00.html

by **SteveForever** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:36 pm

Abitaman wrote:No way does religion "save" you. Religion will send you to hell as fast as anything. Jesus is the only way. Good works, Religion, being a member of a church, being a good person,...none of this saves, may make you a better person. But trust and Faith in Christ is the answer. It is a same that the "religions" give others a bad name, it turns people away from church.-ERIC

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by **Rip Rokken** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:18 pm

SteveForever wrote:
Abitaman wrote:No way does religion "save" you. Religion will send you to hell as fast as anything. Jesus is the only way. Good works, Religion, being a member of a church, being a good person,...none of this saves, may make you a better person. But trust and Faith in Christ is the answer. It is a same that the "religions" give others a bad name, it turns people away from church.-ERIC
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I was just listening to a recorded sermon on my way to the office this morning called "Toxic Churches" which deals exactly with that. It starts with a dramatized re-enactment of a family at lunch after church, being insensitive to their hard-working and polite waitress and finally having to have the manager come up and apologize for their experience... it ends with her alone somewhere crying and saying to herself, "Stupid hypocrites..." I've seen a scene exactly like that at one of my favorite little hole-in-the-wall Thai places. A table full of church staff, pastors apparently, acting like they were the bees knees, being loud, and running the restaurant owner ragged with their little demands. The cockiness at that table coulda knocked you back. I've never come so close to calling someone out -- I wanted so bad to walk up and ask them, "I overheard you talking about your church. What church are you from? Really? I'll be sure never to go there...", but I just gave them a look, shook my head and left.

by **Andrew** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:28 pm

Crapentology isn't a religion...it's a CULT!

by **Michigan Girl** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:35 pm

Andrew wrote:Crapentology isn't a religion...it's a CULT!

ABSOLUTELY!!! :wink:

by **youkeepmewaiting** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:43 pm

I'm pleased you removed that comment St John

by **Rip Rokken** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:45 pm

Andrew wrote:Crapentology isn't a religion...it's a CULT!

After your review of Lightning Strikes Again, I'm wondering if you don't have a few Thetans or engrams creeping around in your noggin. You may actually benefit from a Scientology audit! 85% SONGS and 90% SOUND do not average out at 85%... LOL! Please revise the average to 87.5%, and I'll call off the Tom Cruise M.I. strike team that's poised to raid your compound.

The "CLEAR" Wombat

by **maverick218** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:46 pm

Abitaman wrote:No way does religion "save" you. Religion will send you to hell as fast as anything. Jesus is the only way. Good works, Religion, being a member of a church, being a good person,...none of this saves, may make you a better person. But trust and Faith in Christ is the answer. It is a same that the "religions" give others a bad name, it turns people away from church.-ERIC

Amen to that!

by **youkeepmewaiting** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:49 pm

The true idea of religion is as basic as literaly, being nice to people and showing respect.

Religious people can do what they like, aslong as its private and not being rammed down peoples throats

by **Rhiannon** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:49 pm

Rip Rokken wrote:
Andrew wrote:Crapentology isn't a religion...it's a CULT!

After your review of Lightning Strikes Again, I'm wondering if you don't have a few Thetans or engrams creeping around in your noggin. You may actually benefit from a Scientology audit! 85% SONGS and 90% SOUND do not average out at 85%... LOL! Please revise the average to 87.5%, and I'll call off the Tom Cruise M.I. strike team that's poised to raid your compound.

Would you like some cheese with that whine? :wink:

by **conversationpc** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:52 pm

Rip Rokken wrote:I was just listening to a recorded sermon on my way to the office this morning called "Toxic Churches" which deals exactly with that. It starts with a dramatized re-enactment of a family at lunch after church, being insensitive to their hard-working and polite waitress and finally having to have the manager come up and apologize for their experience... it ends with her alone somewhere crying and saying to herself, "Stupid hypocrites..." I've seen a scene exactly like that at one of my favorite little hole-in-the-wall Thai places. A table full of church staff, pastors apparently, acting like they were the bees knees, being loud, and running the restaurant owner ragged with their little demands. The cockiness at that table coulda knocked you back. I've never come so close to calling someone out -- I wanted so bad to walk up and ask them, "I overheard you talking about your church. What church are you from? Really? I'll be sure never to go there...", but I just gave them a look, shook my head and left.

That's really outrageous. :evil:

by **Saint John** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:17 am

youkeepmewaiting wrote:I'm pleased you removed that comment St John

I didn't remove it. :evil:

by **youkeepmewaiting** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:26 am

Saint John wrote:
youkeepmewaiting wrote:I'm pleased you removed that comment St John

I didn't remove it.

Ahh well it was right to be removed. Considering (i assume) you are a christian.

by **Saint John** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:41 am

youkeepmewaiting wrote:The true idea of religion is as basic as literaly, being nice to people and showing respect.

Agreed 100%!!! "Church" is in your heart and in your actions. It's certainly not some physical, tangible structure that protects child molestors, scammers, and southern snake twirling, bible thumpers that tend fuck their cousins.

by **Babyblue** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:48 am

Saint John wrote:
youkeepmewaiting wrote:The true idea of religion is as basic as literaly, being nice to people and showing respect.

Agreed 100%!!! "Church" is in your heart and in your actions. It's certainly not some physical, tangible structure that protects child molestors, scammers, and southern snake twirling, bible thumpers that tend fuck their cousins.

So true

by **Barb** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:49 am

I absolutely believe Scientology is a cult, but this guy doesn't help his cause using the F word every 15 seconds. When people talk like that, I immediately think they are not intelligent. No idea what his experience is/was, but he comes off like a moron in this clip, IMO.

by **Rhiannon** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:54 am

Andrew wrote:Crapentology isn't a religion...it's a CULT!

Actually, it is nothing more than a fad brought on by Hollywood elitists... it's presence in pop-culture is the only reason most of us have even heard of it. Religion is crap anyway. Faith and acknowledging that there is something out there bigger than us all and having the fortitude enough to ruminate on what we personally find to be true instead of following some archaic doctrine is what spirituality is all about. If anything the pursuit and quest to understand God should be our religion. Knowledge. Certainly not some bullshit crap-ass author who didn't know allegory from alliterations.

by **SteveForever** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:00 am

Saint John wrote:
youkeepmewaiting wrote:The true idea of religion is as basic as literaly, being nice to people and showing respect.

Agreed 100%!!! "Church" is in your heart and in your actions. It's certainly not some physical, tangible structure

Churches across this nation do alot of good as well, I'm so sorry your experiences with organized religion or church has been a
negative. There are some great things being done by churches though. Most food pantries across the United States are thru
churches, churches help people adopt and the Salvation Army in itself if a church that helps thousands of people find
jobs, get shelter, food, and back on their feet.
Its not all bad, but I agree with you that it shouldn't be a place where people can hide and be protected from breaking laws in our society. :wink:

by **Rip Rokken** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:16 am

Rhiannon wrote:Would you like some cheese with that whine?

Sure! Pass me the new Bryan Adams CD...

by **Rip Rokken** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:18 am

Barb wrote:I absolutely believe Scientology is a cult, but this guy doesn't help his cause using the F word every 15 seconds. When people talk like that, I immediately think they are not intelligent. No idea what his experience is/was, but he comes off like a moron in this clip, IMO.

Careful, now -- you might offend some of our top posters here on MR... LOL!

by **Rip Rokken** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:20 am

Here's another very interesting article from none other than the son of L. Ron Hubbard!

http://www.rickross.com/reference/scien ... en240.html

by **conversationpc** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:22 am

Rip Rokken wrote:Here's another very interesting article from none other than the son of L. Ron Hubbard!

http://www.rickross.com/reference/scien ... en240.html

I've seen and read interviews with him. He's been hounded by the "Church" of Scientology and their lawyers for much of his life, been harrassed, etc. L. Ron Hubbard was nothing but a snake oil salesman and an occult practitioner.

Website · by **FishinMagician** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:06 am

you dont know how fun it is to live in a city where one of the main Flag headquarters is located :lol:

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