Arnel hitting a really bad note recently at the 1:55 mark..

[larryfromnextdoor]

I agree. Here is a quote from Abraham Lincoln, " If you look for the bad in mankind, expecting to find it, you surely will." I thought his performance was good and never noticed what some were saying here.

Here is a quote from a hardcore David Lee Roth fan: "I think Sammy Hagar sucks no matter what he does!"

I think this has more to do with people preferring a specific singer than it does with dishing out petty criticisms.

i agree with you Voyager.. sammy rocks..

[journeypower]

Great choice Neal

still upset about yo daddy not getting selected, ey?

No about yo momma get selected

really? c'mon, you know that it's true. say it, say it ! don' be shy !

[journeypower]

I just recieved a very important news. AP was handed a wrong mic during that performance. according to my source, since it was a live show. there were a lot of confusions going on backstage. makeup, dressing, rehearsals, etc...
so when AP was up, some douchebag of a technical staff, handed him a mic which wasn't tuned properly. so that's it folks, the MIC was out of tune! hope this helps !

[strangegrey]

He tried to jump up an octave to cover the higher harmony and missed a little.

He wasn't trying to hit an octave. He was trying to hit a harmony (either a 5th or a major 3rd)....and failed miserably....not a little.

[strangegrey]

I just recieved a very important news. AP was handed a wrong mic during that performance. according to my source, since it was a live show. there were a lot of confusions going on backstage. makeup, dressing, rehearsals, etc...
so when AP was up, some douchebag of a technical staff, handed him a mic which wasn't tuned properly. so that's it folks, the MIC was out of tune! hope this helps !

Are you serious? Please tell me you're joking....

[larryfromnextdoor]

I just recieved a very important news. AP was handed a wrong mic during that performances. according to my source, since it was a live show. there were a lot of confusions going on backstage. makeup, dressing, rehearsals, etc...
so when AP was up, some douchebag of a technical staff, handed him a mic which wasn't tuned properly. so that's it folks, the MIC was out of tune! hope this helps !

well.. hmm.... boy .. ive been handed those mics before... a few times... i was handed a guitar that
wasnt tuned properly.. boy did i play well but came out bad becuase of a bad tuned sound system.. ...those out of tune mics are murder .....

[journeypower]

I just recieved a very important news. AP was handed a wrong mic during that performance. according to my source, since it was a live show. there were a lot of confusions going on backstage. makeup, dressing, rehearsals, etc...
so when AP was up, some douchebag of a technical staff, handed him a mic which wasn't tuned properly. so that's it folks, the MIC was out of tune! hope this helps !

Are you serious? Please tell me you're joking....

don't tell me you took that statement seriously? tell me it ain't so.

[larryfromnextdoor]

I just recieved a very important news. AP was handed a wrong mic during that performance. according to my source, since it was a live show. there were a lot of confusions going on backstage. makeup, dressing, rehearsals, etc...
so when AP was up, some douchebag of a technical staff, handed him a mic which wasn't tuned properly. so that's it folks, the MIC was out of tune! hope this helps !

Are you serious? Please tell me you're joking....

don't tell me you took that statement seriously? tell me it ain't so.

gawd dog it !!! its so.. be careful..

[journeypower]

He tried to jump up an octave to cover the higher harmony and missed a little.

He wasn't trying to hit an octave. He was trying to hit a harmony (either a 5th or a major 3rd)....and failed miserably....not a little.

I agree with you. a lot here failed to notice that. probably becoz one viewing is enough since it was painful to hear and never looked at it again for further evaluation.

I tried to scrutinize the video on YT thoroughly, no matter how painful it was to hear and appeared like I was torturing myself. he wasn't trying to belt out more but was trying to go down some notches to compliment the female singer (AP should had taken the lead, instead of backing down). if there was a simplier way of explaining it, AP went from 4th gear, shifted at 2nd gear in a hurry, but got stucked on neutral instead. the shift stick didn't locked in. oh my, the car came crashing down !

[journeypower]

I just recieved a very important news. AP was handed a wrong mic during that performance. according to my source, since it was a live show. there were a lot of confusions going on backstage. makeup, dressing, rehearsals, etc...
so when AP was up, some douchebag of a technical staff, handed him a mic which wasn't tuned properly. so that's it folks, the MIC was out of tune! hope this helps !

Are you serious? Please tell me you're joking....

don't tell me you took that statement seriously? tell me it ain't so.

gawd dog it !!! its so.. be careful..

though I do believe it was the MIC's batteries that went low !

[mistiejourney]

I just thought of something (one last note) -

If we cringe at stuff like that - imagine how Arnel must feel. The guy is professional and he knows he's being scrutinized with an electron microscope. In this day and age, one goof is forever immortalized on "You Tube".

Anybody remember the out-take of "Missing You" from the FLOTSM years?

Which outtake, MistieJ? I have the sessions, there was nothing on it that was embarrassing to SP.

It was on one of the CDs available at the FTLOSM concerts - Steve screws up the beginning and laughs.

[(Crazy)Dulce Lady]

I just thought of something (one last note) -

If we cringe at stuff like that - imagine how Arnel must feel. The guy is professional and he knows he's being scrutinized with an electron microscope. In this day and age, one goof is forever immortalized on "You Tube".

Anybody remember the out-take of "Missing You" from the FLOTSM years?

Which outtake, MistieJ? I have the sessions, there was nothing on it that was embarrassing to SP.

It was on one of the CDs available at the FTLOSM concerts - Steve screws up the beginning and laughs.

that is my favorite part of that cd............

live is best----always. warts and all.

[stevew2]

I just recieved a very important news. AP was handed a wrong mic during that performance. according to my source, since it was a live show. there were a lot of confusions going on backstage. makeup, dressing, rehearsals, etc...
so when AP was up, some douchebag of a technical staff, handed him a mic which wasn't tuned properly. so that's it folks, the MIC was out of tune! hope this helps !

A Mic out of tune????? That is retarded,mics dont go out of tune, singers do that

[journeypower]

I just recieved a very important news. AP was handed a wrong mic during that performance. according to my source, since it was a live show. there were a lot of confusions going on backstage. makeup, dressing, rehearsals, etc...
so when AP was up, some douchebag of a technical staff, handed him a mic which wasn't tuned properly. so that's it folks, the MIC was out of tune! hope this helps !

A Mic out of tune????? That is retarded,mics dont go out of tune, singers do that

you're kinda slow today SteveW. and you took that statement seriously like I was serious about it.
though it would had been a lot more funnier if you believed that the MIC was really out of tune.

[stevew2]

I just recieved a very important news. AP was handed a wrong mic during that performance. according to my source, since it was a live show. there were a lot of confusions going on backstage. makeup, dressing, rehearsals, etc...
so when AP was up, some douchebag of a technical staff, handed him a mic which wasn't tuned properly. so that's it folks, the MIC was out of tune! hope this helps !

A Mic out of tune????? That is retarded,mics dont go out of tune, singers do that

you're kinda slow today SteveW. and you took that statement seriously like I was serious about it.
though it would had been a lot more funnier if you believed that the MIC was really out of tune. {quote> You are funny, makes as much sense as your last post

[Vladan]

Well Arnel may of sung that part an octave higher or lower, or whatever, but atleast he carried the note! he still sounded powerfull, even if he may of been "out of tune" which I don't believe he was, I just feel that he did a different arrangement, but if it were Perry - nobody would give that a second thought.

[journeypower]

I just recieved a very important news. AP was handed a wrong mic during that performance. according to my source, since it was a live show. there were a lot of confusions going on backstage. makeup, dressing, rehearsals, etc...
so when AP was up, some douchebag of a technical staff, handed him a mic which wasn't tuned properly. so that's it folks, the MIC was out of tune! hope this helps !

A Mic out of tune????? That is retarded,mics dont go out of tune, singers do that

you're kinda slow today SteveW. and you took that statement seriously like I was serious about it.
though it would had been a lot more funnier if you believed that the MIC was really out of tune. {quote> You are funny, makes as much sense as your last post

OH PUHLEEZZ !!! stop it !

[stevew2]

I just recieved a very important news. AP was handed a wrong mic during that performance. according to my source, since it was a live show. there were a lot of confusions going on backstage. makeup, dressing, rehearsals, etc...
so when AP was up, some douchebag of a technical staff, handed him a mic which wasn't tuned properly. so that's it folks, the MIC was out of tune! hope this helps !

A Mic out of tune????? That is retarded,mics dont go out of tune, singers do that

you're kinda slow today SteveW. and you took that statement seriously like I was serious about it.
though it would had been a lot more funnier if you believed that the MIC was really out of tune. {quote> You are funny, makes as much sense as your last post

OH PUHLEEZZ !!! stop it !

You are gay, goodnight Sir Elton

[Voyager]

I agree. Here is a quote from Abraham Lincoln, " If you look for the bad in mankind, expecting to find it, you surely will." I thought his performance was good and never noticed what some were saying here.

Here is a quote from a hardcore David Lee Roth fan: "I think Sammy Hagar sucks no matter what he does!"

I think this has more to do with people preferring a specific singer than it does with dishing out petty criticisms.

i agree with you Voyager.. sammy rocks..

Sammy does rock... but there are a lot of hardcore David Lee Roth fans who would argue that, simply because they are loyal to DLR. Same thing happens with Steve Perry fans vs. Current-Journey-Singer fans.

[strangegrey]

I just recieved a very important news. AP was handed a wrong mic during that performance. according to my source, since it was a live show. there were a lot of confusions going on backstage. makeup, dressing, rehearsals, etc...
so when AP was up, some douchebag of a technical staff, handed him a mic which wasn't tuned properly. so that's it folks, the MIC was out of tune! hope this helps !

Are you serious? Please tell me you're joking....

don't tell me you took that statement seriously? tell me it ain't so.

Here....with the population of arneliots, loons, and other random lemmings that infest the online world of journey fandom...I find it hard to know when to take something with a grain of salt or tell someone to run, not walk, to the local psychatric ward.

So, yes...I took that statement seriously. I've seen far worse stated around here, said with 100% seriousness...

[strangegrey]

Well Arnel may of sung that part an octave higher or lower, or whatever, but atleast he carried the note! he still sounded powerfull, even if he may of been "out of tune" which I don't believe he was, I just feel that he did a different arrangement, but if it were Perry - nobody would give that a second thought.

You're kidding right? He sounded like ass. There's no power behind a missed note like that. Sorry. If you know anything about singing, you'll know that most missed notes are a result of either a lack of power or an inability to project power at the time the mis-note was sung.

In this particular case, you're giving credit to arnel's voice for the 'power' you hear...and completely discrediting the fact that a microphone was 2 inches from his teeth and the soundman wasn't enough on the ball to drop the faders to get rid of the putrid note.

Listen...everyone fucks up while singing....well, the person that original sang arnels parts never did....but most motal humans fuck up....so this is not the issue.

What's more so the issue is that it seems that there's a whole horde of arneliots jumping in to throw excuse after excuse as the reason for why he fucked up that note. Instead of just saying "yeah, the guy isn't as perfect as I once thought!"

Sorry, the guy tried to hit a 5th, and made a complete ass out of the note....move on.


If Exotic Journey tours Arnel the way they toured between 2002 and 2006, there's going to be ALOT more fucked up notes to talk about. This is just the first of many. The true fun is yet to come....

[conversationpc]

Listen...everyone fucks up while singing....well, the person that original sang arnels parts never did....but most motal humans fuck up....so this is not the issue.

I've got enough boots to prove otherwise...However, I will say that he screwed up less than most other singers that I've heard.

[T-Bone]

What's more so the issue is that it seems that there's a whole horde of arneliots jumping in to throw excuse after excuse as the reason for why he fucked up that note. Instead of just saying "yeah, the guy isn't as perfect as I once thought!"

And even MORE an issue is the HORDE of Journey/Arnel detractors hunting for something they can jump on and give excuse after excuse after excuse why Arnel isn't right for the band and why Journey are done and................ This can swing both ways frank.....

[conversationpc]

What's more so the issue is that it seems that there's a whole horde of arneliots jumping in to throw excuse after excuse as the reason for why he fucked up that note. Instead of just saying "yeah, the guy isn't as perfect as I once thought!"

And even MORE an issue is the HORDE of Journey/Arnel detractors hunting for something they can jump on and give excuse after excuse after excuse why Arnel isn't right for the band and why Journey are done and................ This can swing both ways frank.....

And you know what? He probably isn't as bad as others thought, either.

[journeypower]

I just recieved a very important news. AP was handed a wrong mic during that performance. according to my source, since it was a live show. there were a lot of confusions going on backstage. makeup, dressing, rehearsals, etc...
so when AP was up, some douchebag of a technical staff, handed him a mic which wasn't tuned properly. so that's it folks, the MIC was out of tune! hope this helps !

A Mic out of tune????? That is retarded,mics dont go out of tune, singers do that

you're kinda slow today SteveW. and you took that statement seriously like I was serious about it.
though it would had been a lot more funnier if you believed that the MIC was really out of tune. {quote> You are funny, makes as much sense as your last post

OH PUHLEEZZ !!! stop it !

You are gay, goodnight Sir Elton

First you PM me as a D**K, now you're calling me a GAY ! you're really a confused fella aren't ya? good night stevew and don't forget that I said hi to your dear papi !

[strangegrey]

What's more so the issue is that it seems that there's a whole horde of arneliots jumping in to throw excuse after excuse as the reason for why he fucked up that note. Instead of just saying "yeah, the guy isn't as perfect as I once thought!"

And even MORE an issue is the HORDE of Journey/Arnel detractors hunting for something they can jump on and give excuse after excuse after excuse why Arnel isn't right for the band and why Journey are done and................ This can swing both ways frank.....

Go ahead and try to swing it in my direction, Bone...it wont work.

I'm NOT here detracting arnel and his missed note. i've made it 100% clear that everyone fucks up. I've also made it 100% clear (in the post you quoted I might add) that what I am not harping on is Arnel's fucked up note...

Nice try...

[youkeepmewaiting]

How did this turn into such a debate?

Arnel can hit the notes.. he messed it up this time. Oh well.

[strangegrey]

How did this turn into such a debate?

Arnel can hit the notes.. he messed it up this time. Oh well.

Well, I dunno...ask the moderator? He seems to think I have an agenda....I was trying to make the very point you just made.

Instead, it's "oooooh, watch out for the coordinated hate-arnel attack. it's coming!"

How rediculous...

[conversationpc]

How did this turn into such a debate?

Arnel can hit the notes.. he messed it up this time. Oh well.

Well, I dunno...ask the moderator? He seems to think I have an agenda....I was trying to make the very point you just made.

Instead, it's "oooooh, watch out for the coordinated hate-arnel attack. it's coming!"

How rediculous...

Ridiculous? Doesn't seem that way from my viewpoint.

[T-Bone]

Mine either... Especially considering certain people here come into any and every thread just to post something negative about the band in some way and then hide behind the "I'm entitled to my opinion" defense. If a post starts off with some praise for the band in some way, certain people come in and try to drag it down. If it starts out as a dig against the band, those same certain people jump on it and run... Seems pretty clear to me