Arnel vs. Perry = SILLY

[Deb]

Meanwhile I have no such memories of Hagler as being washed up or embarassing. Because he walked away while still at his best - just like Steve Perry did.

Nope, not true. Perry was at his "best" in '82-'83. I am glad he didn't walk away back then, but I am sure he would even agree the period of time that included E5C4P3, Frontiers and Street Talk was his vocal and songwriting peak.

Well, you all have more knowledge of this than I do. The last thing I remember from Journey was the song on Visionquest and Steve Perry sounded good to me then. He never embarassed himself, even if you all feel he was past his peak. I have my worries currently of how the Triumph reunion will turn out. I know Rik still has his chops and can sing since I have seen his solo shows. No one has heard Gil Moore sing in a long time though. Consider me cautiously excited, but I hope they don't do anything to tarnish my memories.

Wondering that too. Eric Martin (and Neal Schon) wrote this one and I much prefer EM's amazing vocals on it, but Gil does a pretty good job on it too. Just One Night http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVtsKuj22vQ

[stevew2]

Nice post, Neal, but I saw the singer you should have picked last weekend.

No shit Nig, helava show

[ttango1]

NIG & W2 are relentless. Whatevs...doesn't change anything.

We should have a bet with them since they feel this incarnation is going to be a cataclysmic failure.

What say you gents?

Say the album goes gold...will you guys let the members here pick your avatars and control your signatures?

REMEMBER, this is an ADULT forum and we could make your shit look completely foolish and off-kilter. RIDICULE will be the order for, let's say a 3 month period.

What say you gents?

[Monstrock]

Meanwhile I have no such memories of Hagler as being washed up or embarassing. Because he walked away while still at his best - just like Steve Perry did.

Nope, not true. Perry was at his "best" in '82-'83. I am glad he didn't walk away back then, but I am sure he would even agree the period of time that included E5C4P3, Frontiers and Street Talk was his vocal and songwriting peak.

Well, you all have more knowledge of this than I do. The last thing I remember from Journey was the song on Visionquest and Steve Perry sounded good to me then. He never embarassed himself, even if you all feel he was past his peak. I have my worries currently of how the Triumph reunion will turn out. I know Rik still has his chops and can sing since I have seen his solo shows. No one has heard Gil Moore sing in a long time though. Consider me cautiously excited, but I hope they don't do anything to tarnish my memories.

Wondering that too. Eric Martin (and Neal Schon) wrote this one and I much prefer EM's amazing vocals on it, but Gil does a pretty good job on it too. Just One Night http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVtsKuj22vQ

Deb, did you also notice that one of Journey's latest song "Turn Down The World Tonight" has a Mr. Big feel on it like "Promise Her The Moon". Would also sound nice on Eric Martin's voice IMO .

[Deb]

Meanwhile I have no such memories of Hagler as being washed up or embarassing. Because he walked away while still at his best - just like Steve Perry did.

Nope, not true. Perry was at his "best" in '82-'83. I am glad he didn't walk away back then, but I am sure he would even agree the period of time that included E5C4P3, Frontiers and Street Talk was his vocal and songwriting peak.

Well, you all have more knowledge of this than I do. The last thing I remember from Journey was the song on Visionquest and Steve Perry sounded good to me then. He never embarassed himself, even if you all feel he was past his peak. I have my worries currently of how the Triumph reunion will turn out. I know Rik still has his chops and can sing since I have seen his solo shows. No one has heard Gil Moore sing in a long time though. Consider me cautiously excited, but I hope they don't do anything to tarnish my memories.

Wondering that too. Eric Martin (and Neal Schon) wrote this one and I much prefer EM's amazing vocals on it, but Gil does a pretty good job on it too. Just One Night http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVtsKuj22vQ

Deb, did you also notice that one of Journey's latest song "Turn Down The World Tonight" has a Mr. Big feel on it like "Promise Her The Moon". Would also sound nice on Eric Martin's voice IMO .

It does too. I didn't notice that...........good call! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQfjo0Rd ... re=related

[stevew2]

NIG & W2 are relentless. Whatevs...doesn't change anything.

We should have a bet with them since they feel this incarnation is going to be a cataclysmic failure.

What say you gents?

Say the album goes gold...will you guys let the members here pick your avatars and control your signatures?

REMEMBER, this is an ADULT forum and we could make your shit look completely foolish and off-kilter. RIDICULE will be the order for, let's say a 3 month period.

What say you gents?

You got it, when you lose i get to do the same on you,and taking your present sig,{ thats cool}

[Rick]

NIG & W2 are relentless. Whatevs...doesn't change anything.

We should have a bet with them since they feel this incarnation is going to be a cataclysmic failure.

What say you gents?

Say the album goes gold...will you guys let the members here pick your avatars and control your signatures?

REMEMBER, this is an ADULT forum and we could make your shit look completely foolish and off-kilter. RIDICULE will be the order for, let's say a 3 month period.

What say you gents?

I love your passion dude, but this isn't technically an adult forum. It can be viewed by any age. The adult threads should always be marked as such, so parents can guide their young eyed children away from that. Any parent that would let their young child read here is way more liberal than I am though.

[Saint John]

stevew2's avatar still makes me laugh every time I look at it. Funny shit, dude.

[stevew2]

stevew2's avatar still makes me laugh every time I look at it. Funny shit, dude.

Thanks man, Id hate to have it changed,it cant get any gayer than friga {my daughter did the flowers}

[BobbyinTN]

They just shouldn't have touched the classics.

Why the fuck not? Several schools of thought here:

1) Wal Mart mandated they be redone before they signed off on the new package. Fine by me.
2) It serves as a big "FUCK YOU, SnupplePerrygus!" Fine by be again.
3) It was the band's way of saying, "Here's our new singer. If you like what you hear come out and see a show this summer. If not, grab your Escape cassette, go sit in your Smokey And The Bandit 1977 Trans Am, run a hose from the exhaust into the car, seal any holes with duct tape, and enjoy."

4) They did the re-records so they have something to lip to when they go on Dancing with the Stars, like Leppard shamelessly did recently. Anyone see that?

I saw that and COULD NOT BELEIVE they lipped to the original. Couldn't they have at least found a live recording that would have sounded more current?

[BobbyinTN]

NIG & W2 are relentless. Whatevs...doesn't change anything.

We should have a bet with them since they feel this incarnation is going to be a cataclysmic failure.

What say you gents?

Say the album goes gold...will you guys let the members here pick your avatars and control your signatures?

REMEMBER, this is an ADULT forum and we could make your shit look completely foolish and off-kilter. RIDICULE will be the order for, let's say a 3 month period.

What say you gents?

Uh, how about this one-
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[Andrew]

No way, the guy is done. Completely If you hear anything from him, you're going to hear old shit that he's remixed, dusted off or regurgitated. Nothing new. In fact, the going rumor is that the shit he played for his insane asylum crew back in february is just old FTLOSM outtakes.

Frank. Consider where you are posting and consider you are attacking the integrity of friends of mine. Let this be a warning to you - I will NOT tolerate this or any more posts along these lines.

[Deb]

NIG & W2 are relentless. Whatevs...doesn't change anything.

We should have a bet with them since they feel this incarnation is going to be a cataclysmic failure.

What say you gents?

Say the album goes gold...will you guys let the members here pick your avatars and control your signatures?

REMEMBER, this is an ADULT forum and we could make your shit look completely foolish and off-kilter. RIDICULE will be the order for, let's say a 3 month period.

What say you gents?

Uh, how about this one-
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Hell ya!

[BobbyinTN]

NIG & W2 are relentless. Whatevs...doesn't change anything.

We should have a bet with them since they feel this incarnation is going to be a cataclysmic failure.

What say you gents?

Say the album goes gold...will you guys let the members here pick your avatars and control your signatures?

REMEMBER, this is an ADULT forum and we could make your shit look completely foolish and off-kilter. RIDICULE will be the order for, let's say a 3 month period.

What say you gents?

Uh, how about this one-
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Hell ya!

Well, something for the gay guys and ladies is only fair, right? LOL

[ttango1]

W2 is in...what say you NIG?

Rick, I'm inclined to agree with you except for the fact that this board, through use of words alone, can violate or merit a RR or soft X rating.

So what say you NIG?

Oh and W2, I'm so sure fired set on getting these guy to Gold stauts via downloads and album sales through word-of-mouth guerilla advertising that I'm willing to possibly go through 3 months of signature hell. I'm down!!!!

That boytoy pic is mos def for the Chippendale set, but... I did stipulate that the members of the forum could submit ideas.

Again, W2 is in...what say you NIG?

[NealIsGod]

How may copies is Gold? If it wasn't available for next to nothing thru the largest retailer in the world, I would take you up on it. But I think Tiny Tim could have reached Gold with this deal. I just think Jeremey would have been an amazing fit since they want to sound like the Perry-era again. I am looking forward to Saint John and other's review of the Frontiers upcoming Indiana show. I stood there in Baltimore last week just amazed that there is another person blessed with a voice like that.

[Deb]

That boytoy pic is mos def for the Chippendale set, but... I did stipulate that the members of the forum could submit ideas.

What do you mean?! That pic was taken in my basement, huh......hasn't every gal got one of those? Mine came with the house.

[ttango1]

500K in total sales = Gold
That standard hasn't ever changed.
W2 is in...what say you?

That chippendale/thunder from down under(I'm sure Andrew knows them well) pic can be your avatar/sig.


JH has made his peace with it and I know I'm one of many who thank him for his contributions in his brief time with legend and also wish him much success in his future endeavors with both royalties from NWA and his Frontiers group.

Maybe this time, since he now has a real Traveling Frontiers group or (Group B as he calls it, I think), he can make it out west to Californy. I'd watch him.

[Rick]

Californy.

Californy, that's the place you oughtta be.

Dude, you gotta lose that sig pic, I can't concentrate.

[Saint John]

How may copies is Gold? If it wasn't available for next to nothing thru the largest retailer in the world, I would take you up on it. But I think Tiny Tim could have reached Gold with this deal. I just think Jeremey would have been an amazing fit since they want to sound like the Perry-era again. I am looking forward to Saint John and other's review of the Frontiers upcoming Indiana show. I stood there in Baltimore last week just amazed that there is another person blessed with a voice like that.

NIG, I agree, Jeremey (all 3 "e's" ) would have been a great fit. HOWEVER, there was a huge faction, many of which are your friends, and a few that are mine too, that said they didn't want " a parrot." I thought what you, along with others, but NEVER myself, loved about JSS, was his way of singing the catalog "different than Perry?" So am I to decipher from what you have presented as "evidence" that you like both "different' and now "the same" as Perry? Basically, you like JSS because he can't sing the songs like Perry and Jeremey because he can? And Arnel can do both, so he sucks.

[Rick]

How may copies is Gold? If it wasn't available for next to nothing thru the largest retailer in the world, I would take you up on it. But I think Tiny Tim could have reached Gold with this deal. I just think Jeremey would have been an amazing fit since they want to sound like the Perry-era again. I am looking forward to Saint John and other's review of the Frontiers upcoming Indiana show. I stood there in Baltimore last week just amazed that there is another person blessed with a voice like that.

NIG, I agree, Jeremey (all 3 "e's" ) would have been a great fit. HOWEVER, there was a huge faction, many of which are your friends, and a few that are mine too, that said they didn't want " a parrot." I thought what you, along with others, but NEVER myself, loved about JSS, was his way of singing the catalog "different than Perry?" So am I to decipher from what you have presented as "evidence" that you like both "different' and now "the same" as Perry? Basically, you like JSS because he can't sing the songs like Perry and Jeremey because he can? And Arnel can do both, so he sucks.

Baaaaaayum! Homefuckingrun! Turn out the lights, game over.

[ttango1]

Hey, it is signed brutalis isn't it?

Isn't that BRUTAL in latin? Sorry Rick, the sig stays for a bit. I've grown attached to it today and well, why prevent others from getting attached?

[Deb]

How may copies is Gold? If it wasn't available for next to nothing thru the largest retailer in the world, I would take you up on it. But I think Tiny Tim could have reached Gold with this deal. I just think Jeremey would have been an amazing fit since they want to sound like the Perry-era again. I am looking forward to Saint John and other's review of the Frontiers upcoming Indiana show. I stood there in Baltimore last week just amazed that there is another person blessed with a voice like that.

NIG, I agree, Jeremey (all 3 "e's" ) would have been a great fit. HOWEVER, there was a huge faction, many of which are your friends, and a few that are mine too, that said they didn't want " a parrot." I thought what you, along with others, but NEVER myself, loved about JSS, was his way of singing the catalog "different than Perry?" So am I to decipher from what you have presented as "evidence" that you like both "different' and now "the same" as Perry? Basically, you like JSS because he can't sing the songs like Perry and Jeremey because he can? And Arnel can do both, so he sucks.

You're kinda scary when you make a little bit of sense.

[ttango1]

when I was a wee newbie.

I asked then, Why did people want to call AP a parrot when Jeremey was being lauded for sounding like Steve Perry?

But then again, why re-hash it? If you haven't heard the clips...they stands for themselves.

Journey Rocks...need I say more?

[strangegrey]

No way, the guy is done. Completely If you hear anything from him, you're going to hear old shit that he's remixed, dusted off or regurgitated. Nothing new. In fact, the going rumor is that the shit he played for his insane asylum crew back in february is just old FTLOSM outtakes.

Frank. Consider where you are posting and consider you are attacking the integrity of friends of mine. Let this be a warning to you - I will NOT tolerate this or any more posts along these lines.

I invite you to ban me then....I'm not attacking anyone's integrity other than Steve Perry's...

[RocknRoll]

SG - I really enjoy reading your posts. Sometimes you get out there but most times you end up reasonable and funny. It's a different world we live in today, but it's what we got and I still like it.

[Saint John]

No way, the guy is done. Completely If you hear anything from him, you're going to hear old shit that he's remixed, dusted off or regurgitated. Nothing new. In fact, the going rumor is that the shit he played for his insane asylum crew back in february is just old FTLOSM outtakes.

Frank. Consider where you are posting and consider you are attacking the integrity of friends of mine. Let this be a warning to you - I will NOT tolerate this or any more posts along these lines.

I invite you to ban me then....I'm not attacking anyone's integrity other than Steve Perry's...

I invite Steve Perry to sing "live." Folks, he CAN'T. I'll pledge $1,000 to the charity of his choice. He sings live and I'll donate $1,000 said charity.

[Rick]

No way, the guy is done. Completely If you hear anything from him, you're going to hear old shit that he's remixed, dusted off or regurgitated. Nothing new. In fact, the going rumor is that the shit he played for his insane asylum crew back in february is just old FTLOSM outtakes.

Frank. Consider where you are posting and consider you are attacking the integrity of friends of mine. Let this be a warning to you - I will NOT tolerate this or any more posts along these lines.

I invite you to ban me then....I'm not attacking anyone's integrity other than Steve Perry's...

I invite Steve Perry to sing "live." Folks, he CAN'T. I'll pledge $1,000 to the charity of his choice. He sings live and I'll donate $1,000 said charity.

Yes he can. That's like saying you can't. Of course you can and so could he. The only reason he won't is because he's scared shitless that he wont sound like everyone thinks he should.

I wish he would get over that and just do it.

[Saint John]

He sings live and I'll shell out $1,000. Never happen....ever. Frank is right. Perry is done....he sounds like SHIT...dude's been done for a while.

[stevew2]

500K in total sales = Gold
That standard hasn't ever changed.
W2 is in...what say you?

That chippendale/thunder from down under(I'm sure Andrew knows them well) pic can be your avatar/sig.


JH has made his peace with it and I know I'm one of many who thank him for his contributions in his brief time with legend and also wish him much success in his future endeavors with both royalties from NWA and his Frontiers group.

Maybe this time, since he now has a real Traveling Frontiers group or (Group B as he calls it, I think), he can make it out west to Californy. I'd watch him.

Check out Frontiers, Thats what Journey could have been,your sig is to much. drives me nuts , pervert