Debut Chart Position?

by **amaron** » Fri May 16, 2008 3:15 am

jrnyman28 wrote:I easily see this debuting in the Top 10. Remember, Def Leppard only sold 55,000 units to get #5.

Didn't Arrival sell 52,000 in it's first week and only end up in the mid 50's?

Times have changed.

by **Ehwmatt** » Fri May 16, 2008 3:27 am

amaron wrote:
jrnyman28 wrote:I easily see this debuting in the Top 10. Remember, Def Leppard only sold 55,000 units to get #5.

Didn't Arrival sell 52,000 in it's first week and only end up in the mid 50's?

Times have changed.

They certainly have. The CD is dying and charting barely means anything anymore... the band charting in the spot ahead of you is just selling slightly less worse than you for the most part, rather than doing "better." So yea, I would certainly hope Revelation at least charts

by **sadie65** » Fri May 16, 2008 3:39 am

According to Radioandrecords.com their new song debuts for radio play at 28.

Here's the link:

http://www.radioandrecords.com/Formats/ ... _Chart.asp

by **ProgRocker53** » Fri May 16, 2008 5:17 am

Top Ten for sure!

by **Art Vandelay** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:11 am

Does anyone know what else is being released on that day?

by **ProgRocker53** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:18 am

Art Vandelay wrote:Does anyone know what else is being released on that day?

Disturbed- Indestructible (Journey should beat them, their crowd is younger and more likely to download single songs... plus they suck)

A new Weezer release (Potential threat, decent band with good following of all ages)

Bassist Wayman Tisdale's putting out an album (Nobody knew this, probably... dude was a decent baller too)

Some band called The Virgins (I wonder why?)

by **jrnyman28** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:19 am

Ashanti
Bret Michaels
Disturbed
Jakob Dylan
Gavin Rossdale
Jewel
Aimee Mann
Now 28

Alot more, but those might have some impact.
Now 28 will do well.
Disturbed will do well.
Gavin is getting a lot of airplay right now and Bret Michaels is touring and coming off the Rock Of Love deal.

by **Art Vandelay** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:27 am

jrnyman28 wrote:Ashanti
Bret Michaels
Disturbed
Jakob Dylan
Gavin Rossdale
Jewel
Aimee Mann
Now 28

Alot more, but those might have some impact.
Now 28 will do well.
Disturbed will do well.
Gavin is getting a lot of airplay right now and Bret Michaels is touring and coming off the Rock Of Love deal.

So assuming that most of these CDs will be available at places other than just Walmart, and people will most likely be going to other stores to purchase their music (Best Buy, Circuit City, FYE, Borders, Barnes & Noble, Amazon, etc.), do you think that will be a hurdle for Journey sales?

Not to be a wet noodle, but how many people actually depend on Walmart for the music purchases?

by **amaron** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:29 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:
Art Vandelay wrote:Does anyone know what else is being released on that day?

Disturbed- Indestructible (Journey should beat them, their crowd is younger and more likely to download single songs... plus they suck)

A new Weezer release (Potential threat, decent band with good following of all ages)

They will both place higher than Journey's CD. In fact, Disturbed last two CD's debuted at #1.

by **Escape Artist** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:31 am

TOP 10 RIGHT OUTTA THE GATE...

by **Sarah** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:53 am

amaron wrote:
ProgRocker53 wrote:Disturbed- Indestructible (Journey should beat them, their crowd is younger and more likely to download single songs... plus they suck)

A new Weezer release (Potential threat, decent band with good following of all ages)

They will both place higher than Journey's CD.

agreed with amaron

by **Loneman1** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:02 am

swataz wrote:
Pelata wrote:Top 10 with a quick drop off...

THAT sounds the most likely.

It really isn't where it debuts as much as what happens once it is ON the charts...kinda like a movie debuting at #1 and then sliding into oblivion in a month...

Like HULK in 2003....

Aww.....ya had to go and mention that abortion.

The next one is gonna kick some serious ass though!!

by **swataz** » Fri May 16, 2008 9:43 am

Loneman1 wrote:
swataz wrote:
Pelata wrote:Top 10 with a quick drop off...

THAT sounds the most likely.

It really isn't where it debuts as much as what happens once it is ON the charts...kinda like a movie debuting at #1 and then sliding into oblivion in a month...

Like HULK in 2003....

Aww.....ya had to go and mention that abortion.

The next one is gonna kick some serious ass though!!

LOL...yeah I waited years for HULK to come out and it was a true kick in the balls.

The Incredible Hulk looks like a kick-ass action flick...but have you noticed the lack of marketing? WTF??

by **RPC13** » Fri May 16, 2008 10:10 am

Hulk doesn't open for another month. Starting in June, you won't be able to turn on the TV without seeing a TV spot.

by **MarcelJordan** » Fri May 16, 2008 2:09 pm

Saint John wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:If they go on Dancing with the Stars I will have to burn all my Journey stuff.

Pfff.
Survivor went on there and lipped, too.

Survivor and Def Leppard both did the listening audience a huge favor. Rather than having people scurrying for the exits with their hands over their ears resembling fans of a European soccer team that lost, they lipped instead. Great decision by the powers that be on ABC.

Survivor lipped-synched McAuley's own vocals. It was not even the original recording in other words. No one neared any exits.

by **Jeremey** » Fri May 16, 2008 10:01 pm

I say debuts at #16. Now 28 @ #1 and Disturbed @ #2. Bret Michaels maybe in the top 20 but not top 10.

by **swataz** » Fri May 16, 2008 11:19 pm

RPC13 wrote:Hulk doesn't open for another month. Starting in June, you won't be able to turn on the TV without seeing a TV spot.

One can only hope...I see spots for June 13 The Happening a lot though...competition!

by **Journey/Survivor** » Sat May 17, 2008 7:23 am

Saint John wrote:It is my understanding that they have a nice pre-release media blitz they're finalizing. This does not include Ellen.

What's the latest on that? Are they gonna be on Ellen?

by **ProgRocker53** » Sat May 17, 2008 7:46 am

Disturbed fucking sucks.

by **Carlitto H@kk** » Sat May 17, 2008 7:49 am

Journey/Survivor wrote:
Saint John wrote:It is my understanding that they have a nice pre-release media blitz they're finalizing. This does not include Ellen.

What's the latest on that? Are they gonna be on Ellen?

They should just go all out and pull out all the stops...
Hit EVERY Late-Night show, including SNL and Chelsea Lately, and
EVERY Morning show that will let them thru the doors.

Hell, here's a funny thought...
Set up some kind of contest or promotion
w/ Walmart to have "Journey play at YOUR Walmart!"
I don't know, tie it in the sales, votes, charity donations...
Something crazy...

by **Tito** » Sat May 17, 2008 7:56 am

21-30. I'll even narrow it down to 26.

by **Saint John** » Sat May 17, 2008 8:01 am

Carlitto H@kk wrote:
Journey/Survivor wrote:
Saint John wrote:It is my understanding that they have a nice pre-release media blitz they're finalizing. This does not include Ellen.

What's the latest on that? Are they gonna be on Ellen?

They should just go all out and pull out all the stops...
Hit EVERY Late-Night show, including SNL and Chelsea Lately, and
EVERY Morning show that will let them thru the doors.

Hell, here's a funny thought...
Set up some kind of contest or promotion
w/ Walmart to have "Journey play at YOUR Walmart!"
I don't know, tie it in the sales, votes, charity donations...
Something crazy...

Absolutely outstanding ideas, Carl. You'll be hearing some more announcements very soon about at least 1 or 2 more shows. :shock:

by **Sarah** » Sat May 17, 2008 8:09 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:Disturbed fucking sucks.

Doesn't mean they won't sell better.

by **Journey/Survivor** » Sat May 17, 2008 8:16 am

But are they gonna be on Ellen???

And if so, when?

by **Since 78** » Sat May 17, 2008 8:16 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:Disturbed fucking sucks.

Dude, Disturbed is great!! You just have to be a little Disturbed to appreciate them

by **Saint John** » Sat May 17, 2008 8:18 am

Journey/Survivor wrote:
Saint John wrote:It is my understanding that they have a nice pre-release media blitz they're finalizing. This does not include Ellen.

What's the latest on that? Are they gonna be on Ellen?

They record the show the 22nd and it'll air the 26th (Memorial Day).

by **Journey/Survivor** » Sat May 17, 2008 8:26 am

Saint John wrote:
Journey/Survivor wrote:
Saint John wrote:It is my understanding that they have a nice pre-release media blitz they're finalizing. This does not include Ellen.

What's the latest on that? Are they gonna be on Ellen?

They record the show the 22nd and it'll air the 26th (Memorial Day).

Alright. Thanks.

by **Moose** » Sat May 17, 2008 9:13 am

Since 78 wrote:
ProgRocker53 wrote:Disturbed fucking sucks.

Dude, Disturbed is great!! You just have to be a little Disturbed to appreciate them

I'm with you there!
:lol:

by **Allied Forces** » Sat May 17, 2008 9:26 am

Doubt it goes anywhere. Just enjoy it if you think it is good!

by **jrnyman28** » Wed May 21, 2008 6:03 am

Saint John wrote:
Journey/Survivor wrote:
Saint John wrote:It is my understanding that they have a nice pre-release media blitz they're finalizing. This does not include Ellen.

What's the latest on that? Are they gonna be on Ellen?

They record the show the 22nd and it'll air the 26th (Memorial Day).

Actually, it is now airing on May 28th as the season finale.

MR

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