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tj wrote:Who do you think is the worst president ever? GWBush and Clinton are not options as they are both too fashionably listed by right and left wingers.
lights1961 wrote:tj wrote:Who do you think is the worst president ever? GWBush and Clinton are not options as they are both too fashionably listed by right and left wingers.
CARTER by far.. embargo of the USSR games the failed rescue attempt of the hostages.. the hostage crises... 21% intrest for loans... misery index... one term president... Ted Kennedy almost beat him in the primarys... the worst thing was his love of arafat..that was pathetic
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classicstyxfan wrote:Hmmmm.....I guess Gerald Ford would have known that Iran was going to take hostages in advance and taken decisive action to avoid the situation. And he would also have known in advance a rescue mission would end in failure...better not to try at all, right ?
classicstyxfan wrote:Look, I'm not making a case that Carter was a great president, if he was, he surely would have been re-elected. But worst president ever ??? I think a closer look at the history books and a little less Rush Limbaugh show is in order here.
STORY_TELLER wrote:classicstyxfan wrote:Hmmmm.....I guess Gerald Ford would have known that Iran was going to take hostages in advance and taken decisive action to avoid the situation. And he would also have known in advance a rescue mission would end in failure...better not to try at all, right ?
Ridiculous assertion. How in the world could he possibly know this? The government didn't take the hostages, it was the religious student movement who eventually took over the country.classicstyxfan wrote:Look, I'm not making a case that Carter was a great president, if he was, he surely would have been re-elected. But worst president ever ??? I think a closer look at the history books and a little less Rush Limbaugh show is in order here.
This has nothing to do with Limbaugh. Here's why he's the worst President ever:
When the Sha of Iran was being overthrown, he asked for our help. Carter took a hands off approach saying "it's an internal Iranian issue and they have a right to decide what's best for their own country". On principle, I agree, but the same argument could have been made about Hitler. Those who overthrew the Sha were the same religious fanatics who are in power today. We have Carter to thank for that.
LazzMan wrote:Barack Husein Obama
classicstyxfan wrote:LazzMan wrote:Barack Husein Obama
First off, he hasnt been elected (yet) 2nd if you really believe the mans middle name has any relevance in any way shape or form, your perspective is so warped that its basically of no value in a serious discussion of politics......
Ronald Wilson Reagan has 6 letters in all 3 names.....666 HE MUST HAVE BEEN THE ANTICHRIST !!!! again completely ridiculous, but about as relevant.
Moose wrote:Warren G. Harding…
His greatest claim to fame was being the first president to visit Alaska.
His administration was every bit as corrupt as Nixon’s, but he did not have the intelligence, cunning, and guile of Tricky Dick.
His speeches were often grammatically inept, just like George W.
Harding was the worst.
DracIsBack wrote:Moose wrote:Warren G. Harding…
His greatest claim to fame was being the first president to visit Alaska.
His administration was every bit as corrupt as Nixon’s, but he did not have the intelligence, cunning, and guile of Tricky Dick.
His speeches were often grammatically inept, just like George W.
Harding was the worst.
LOL - I'm too Canadian to really participate in this thread. One note about HARDING though - he showed that some presidents had trouble keeping it in their pants long before Clinton or Kennedy.
squirt1 wrote:I disagree John. Every Pres has some mistakes, but most of the problems of this country belong on Congress. At least Bush awoke this world to going after terrorists instead of hiding in fear. No matter what any politician says we will be at war with fanatic Islam because they see it as lthe crusades, Trust me for the rest of my life ,and maybe yours also, we are in jeporady. This started ,by the way ,in the 70's and neither Carter,Reagan or Clinton saw it as war.
Rick wrote:classicstyxfan wrote:LazzMan wrote:Barack Husein Obama
First off, he hasnt been elected (yet) 2nd if you really believe the mans middle name has any relevance in any way shape or form, your perspective is so warped that its basically of no value in a serious discussion of politics......
Ronald Wilson Reagan has 6 letters in all 3 names.....666 HE MUST HAVE BEEN THE ANTICHRIST !!!! again completely ridiculous, but about as relevant.
I agree with your logic. You can't condemn anyone until they've had a chance to prove themselves one way or another.
tj wrote:Who do you think is the worst president ever? GWBush and Clinton are not options as they are both too fashionably listed by right and left wingers.
Monker wrote:tj wrote:Who do you think is the worst president ever? GWBush and Clinton are not options as they are both too fashionably listed by right and left wingers.
Well, if you are going to limited like that, it is absolutely the first Bush...because it's obvious to me that his biggest mistake is currently sitting in the White House.
conversationpc wrote:Monker wrote:tj wrote:Who do you think is the worst president ever? GWBush and Clinton are not options as they are both too fashionably listed by right and left wingers.
Well, if you are going to limited like that, it is absolutely the first Bush...because it's obvious to me that his biggest mistake is currently sitting in the White House.
Good, well thought-out, intelligent post there, Monker.
tj wrote:Who do you think is the worst president ever? GWBush and Clinton are not options as they are both too fashionably listed by right and left wingers.
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