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LtVanish wrote:He is a great drummer, but I have never been a fan of the tone of his drums, they sound flat.
ProgRocker53 wrote:LtVanish wrote:He is a great drummer, but I have never been a fan of the tone of his drums, they sound flat.
I've only very recently been able to learn how to pick out good drum production, from bad drum production.... and good drum tone, from bad drum tone.
That said, great playing can transcend shortcomings like this... just like great singing/emoting can transcend a bad natural voice. And I think Deen really rose to the occasion and took some names on Revelation.
LtVanish wrote:ProgRocker53 wrote:LtVanish wrote:He is a great drummer, but I have never been a fan of the tone of his drums, they sound flat.
I've only very recently been able to learn how to pick out good drum production, from bad drum production.... and good drum tone, from bad drum tone.
That said, great playing can transcend shortcomings like this... just like great singing/emoting can transcend a bad natural voice. And I think Deen really rose to the occasion and took some names on Revelation.
I agree with you, Dean is fantastic, but I wish he would change his tone a bit, to me it doesnt sound right.
ProgRocker53 wrote:LtVanish wrote:ProgRocker53 wrote:LtVanish wrote:He is a great drummer, but I have never been a fan of the tone of his drums, they sound flat.
I've only very recently been able to learn how to pick out good drum production, from bad drum production.... and good drum tone, from bad drum tone.
That said, great playing can transcend shortcomings like this... just like great singing/emoting can transcend a bad natural voice. And I think Deen really rose to the occasion and took some names on Revelation.
I agree with you, Dean is fantastic, but I wish he would change his tone a bit, to me it doesnt sound right.
Me not being a drummer, I wouldn't know. How can a drummer change their tone, as in with their set? Doesn't one have to tighten drumheads and stuff to a certain degree to tune it and such... and of course I'm assuming different-size pieces have different tones. Give me a quick tutorial if you can.
Journey/Survivor wrote:Deen's one of the greatest ROCK drummers in the world.
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ProgRocker53 wrote:How about this man's drumming on the new record? How ABOUT it?
Liquid_Drummer, and any other skin beaters, what do you gents think?
RisingForce73 wrote:ProgRocker53 wrote:How about this man's drumming on the new record? How ABOUT it?
Liquid_Drummer, and any other skin beaters, what do you gents think?
ProgRocker53 wrote:Journey/Survivor wrote:Deen's one of the greatest ROCK drummers in the world.
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Dude I always forget to specify "ROCK" when talking about drummers, guitarists etc. My expertise and knowledge doesn't branch into stuff like jazz, etc.
Thanks for tossing that up there. You wouldn't believe how often I get lambasted when talking to people by saying stuff like "Neil Peart is the best drummer alive"
conversationpc wrote:ProgRocker53 wrote:Journey/Survivor wrote:Deen's one of the greatest ROCK drummers in the world.
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Dude I always forget to specify "ROCK" when talking about drummers, guitarists etc. My expertise and knowledge doesn't branch into stuff like jazz, etc.
Thanks for tossing that up there. You wouldn't believe how often I get lambasted when talking to people by saying stuff like "Neil Peart is the best drummer alive"
Peart is universally recognized as more than just a great rock drummer. Same for guys like Steve Smith, Bill Bruford, Carl Palmer, etc.
conversationpc wrote:ProgRocker53 wrote:Journey/Survivor wrote:Deen's one of the greatest ROCK drummers in the world.
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Dude I always forget to specify "ROCK" when talking about drummers, guitarists etc. My expertise and knowledge doesn't branch into stuff like jazz, etc.
Thanks for tossing that up there. You wouldn't believe how often I get lambasted when talking to people by saying stuff like "Neil Peart is the best drummer alive"
Peart is universally recognized as more than just a great rock drummer. Same for guys like Steve Smith, Bill Bruford, Carl Palmer, etc.
ProgRocker53 wrote:conversationpc wrote:Peart is universally recognized as more than just a great rock drummer. Same for guys like Steve Smith, Bill Bruford, Carl Palmer, etc.
True but there's a shocking amount of people that think he's overrated.
Then again these people are on YouTube and for some reason that place seems to overflow with douchebags on the video comments.
ProgRocker53 wrote:RisingForce73 wrote:ProgRocker53 wrote:How about this man's drumming on the new record? How ABOUT it?
Liquid_Drummer, and any other skin beaters, what do you gents think?
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Carlitto H@kk wrote:conversationpc wrote:ProgRocker53 wrote:Journey/Survivor wrote:Deen's one of the greatest ROCK drummers in the world.
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Dude I always forget to specify "ROCK" when talking about drummers, guitarists etc. My expertise and knowledge doesn't branch into stuff like jazz, etc.
Thanks for tossing that up there. You wouldn't believe how often I get lambasted when talking to people by saying stuff like "Neil Peart is the best drummer alive"
Peart is universally recognized as more than just a great rock drummer. Same for guys like Steve Smith, Bill Bruford, Carl Palmer, etc.
Love ALL those guys but I also absolutely LOVE
Carter Beauford of teh DMB!
The guy is a fucking rhythmic BEAST behind the kit!
Journey/Survivor wrote:If you want to hear great sounding drums then listen to Marc Droubay's drumming on Survivor's albums. His drums have the best tone to my ears. And he's an extremely underrated ROCK drummer too.
Journey/Survivor wrote:I consider Steve Smith to be the #1 greatest all-around drummer of all time. Of Course Steve Smith is a Jazz drummer first and foremost.
Is Neil Peart overrated? Well, I consider him to be one of the greatest ROCK drummers ever. However, I don't consider him to be the #1 greatest ROCK drummer ever as some people do.
Peart is also a decent Jazz drummer. But he really doesn't compare with Steve Smith when were talking about Jazz.
LtVanish wrote:Journey/Survivor wrote:If you want to hear great sounding drums then listen to Marc Droubay's drumming on Survivor's albums. His drums have the best tone to my ears. And he's an extremely underrated ROCK drummer too.
Marc is the man, one of the main reasons I keep listening to Survivor all the time.
IMO I think Simon Phillips has the perfect sounding drum kit, and it also helps that he is an absolute drumming perfectionist.
ProgRocker53 wrote:Journey/Survivor wrote:I consider Steve Smith to be the #1 greatest all-around drummer of all time. Of Course Steve Smith is a Jazz drummer first and foremost.
Is Neil Peart overrated? Well, I consider him to be one of the greatest ROCK drummers ever. However, I don't consider him to be the #1 greatest ROCK drummer ever as some people do.
Peart is also a decent Jazz drummer. But he really doesn't compare with Steve Smith when were talking about Jazz.
Where can I hear Peart tackle some jazz?
ProgRocker53 wrote:LtVanish wrote:Journey/Survivor wrote:If you want to hear great sounding drums then listen to Marc Droubay's drumming on Survivor's albums. His drums have the best tone to my ears. And he's an extremely underrated ROCK drummer too.
Marc is the man, one of the main reasons I keep listening to Survivor all the time.
IMO I think Simon Phillips has the perfect sounding drum kit, and it also helps that he is an absolute drumming perfectionist.
What is it with Toto, and Journey too for that matter, having so many sensational drummers?
Dunbar, Smith, Castronovo, Phillips, Porcaro. 5 of the best right there... (ROCK)
Journey/Survivor wrote:However, I don't consider him to be the #1 greatest ROCK drummer ever as some people do.
DracIsBack wrote:Journey/Survivor wrote:However, I don't consider him to be the #1 greatest ROCK drummer ever as some people do.
Neil is a great drummer. As for the "#1" thing, I always find these silly. It's not like the people making that assumption have - I don't know - spent time listening to all the drummers in that big world and all.
What he actually is, is a many people's favorite rock drummer.
Carlitto H@kk wrote:DracIsBack wrote:Journey/Survivor wrote:However, I don't consider him to be the #1 greatest ROCK drummer ever as some people do.
Neil is a great drummer. As for the "#1" thing, I always find these silly. It's not like the people making that assumption have - I don't know - spent time listening to all the drummers in that big world and all.
What he actually is, is a many people's favorite rock drummer.
Well, put it this way...
If you polled 100 active, professional Rock/Metal drummers,
I'd be willing to bet that Peart would easily be in the
top-2 as the drummer that has influenced them the most.
ProgRocker53 wrote:Carlitto H@kk wrote:DracIsBack wrote:Journey/Survivor wrote:However, I don't consider him to be the #1 greatest ROCK drummer ever as some people do.
Neil is a great drummer. As for the "#1" thing, I always find these silly. It's not like the people making that assumption have - I don't know - spent time listening to all the drummers in that big world and all.
What he actually is, is a many people's favorite rock drummer.
Well, put it this way...
If you polled 100 active, professional Rock/Metal drummers,
I'd be willing to bet that Peart would easily be in the
top-2 as the drummer that has influenced them the most.
Bonham at the very top alongside him I'm assuming?
ProgRocker53 wrote:Journey/Survivor wrote:I consider Steve Smith to be the #1 greatest all-around drummer of all time. Of Course Steve Smith is a Jazz drummer first and foremost.
Is Neil Peart overrated? Well, I consider him to be one of the greatest ROCK drummers ever. However, I don't consider him to be the #1 greatest ROCK drummer ever as some people do.
Peart is also a decent Jazz drummer. But he really doesn't compare with Steve Smith when were talking about Jazz.
Where can I hear Peart tackle some jazz?
Carlitto H@kk wrote:DracIsBack wrote:Journey/Survivor wrote:However, I don't consider him to be the #1 greatest ROCK drummer ever as some people do.
Neil is a great drummer. As for the "#1" thing, I always find these silly. It's not like the people making that assumption have - I don't know - spent time listening to all the drummers in that big world and all.
What he actually is, is a many people's favorite rock drummer.
Well, put it this way...
If you polled 100 active, professional Rock/Metal drummers,
I'd be willing to bet that Peart would easily be in the
top-2 as the drummer that has influenced them the most.
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