Time Magazine's Article about Journey

[mdaemon]

Here's the link to Time Magazine's Article about Journey Apologies if this has been posted before.

Here is the complete article:

Ever since lead singer Steve Perry injured his hip in 1996, legendary '80s rock band Journey hasn't been the same. Singers Steve Augeri and Jeff Scott Soto tried filling Perry's big shoes (and tight jeans), but the band's success never reached its previous heights and Journey was relegated to a feel-good nostalgia act.

Thirty-three years after its birth, Journey is getting a second wind from an unexpected place. In December, the band signed on new lead vocalist Arnel Pineda, a Filipino singer who they found leading a Manila cover band on YouTube. Six months later, the band has kicked off a tour of Europe and the U.S. and released Revelation, a new album featuring original songs and re-recorded classics that has already shot up to the fifth highest-selling album in the U.S. since its debut two weeks ago.

How Journey found Pineda is a Cinderella tale of the Internet era. After the band dismissed Soto last June for unspecified reasons, guitarist Neal Schon turned to the Web in search of talent. After two days of surfing on YouTube, he came upon clips of Pineda singing with his band, The Zoo, and nailing all the right notes in the toughest Survivor, Queen and Journey power ballads. "I heard his voice and my eyes got big," says Schon, who has been with Journey since its inception in 1975. "I thought, he can't be that good." Schon left his house, took a spin on his motorcycle to clear his head, and then contacted Pineda. At first, the singer thought the email was a hoax. "I didn't think the real Neal Schon would call a guy like me," says Pineda. "I'm just a guy from the Philippines." Four months later, Pineda signed on as Journey's new lead singer. "I've been waiting for this moment to come for 25 years," he says. "It's like shooting to the moon."

Born in Manila, Pineda, 40, started singing as a child, quickly learning his parents' favorite songs by The Jackson Five, Barbra Streisand and The Carpenters. His parents struggled to raise their four sons by running a corner shop and tailoring clothes. Pineda performed in local singing competitions until the age of 13, when his mother died from an extended illness. Medical bills had drained their savings, leaving the family homeless and living with relatives. Not wanting to burden his father, Pineda struck out on his own, collecting newspapers and bottles, and living on the street for nearly two years. When he was 15, a friend encouraged him to start singing again, beginning Pineda's 25-year career as a cover band singer in the Philippines and Hong Kong.

The first half of Pineda's story isn't unique — Filipino cover bands are ubiquitous in many Asian cities. It's a phenomenon Manila-based PhilMusic.com founder Jim Ayson attributes to an imbalance in supply and demand. "There are more musicians in the Philippines than there are opportunities," says Ayson, a drummer who knew Pineda in the 1980s. But Pineda's rags-to-riches story is giving new hope to Filipino singers. "A lot of singers here tried to make it in the States and they couldn't," he says. "[Pineda] made it."

Not surprisingly, Filipino media in the homeland and the U.S. have lit up with Pineda coverage. "Everyone's talking about it," says Marilyn Deleon, 44, a Journey fan in New York City who helped create animated videos of Pineda and other Journey members and posted them online. At Pineda's first U.S. performance with Journey in Las Vegas in March, Schon estimates Filipino Americans made up half of the audience. Some countrymen are already painting Pineda as a kind of national hero. "There's [boxer] Manny Pacquiao, [pool player] Efren Reyes and then there's Arnel," says Kookie Luib, a bass player who performed with Pineda during his years in Hong Kong. "Our country is always recognized for corruption and government malfunction. These guys are bringing up Filipino pride."

But not all of Journey's die-hard fans — and there are plenty — have embraced Pineda with open arms. When Siobhan Tobin started an Arnel Pineda fan site in December, the Florida-based web developer says angry Journey fans left death threats on her answering machine. The band's traditional fanbase is mostly white and American, and some are upset that Pineda is neither. "Journey is supposed to be an all-American band," one fan wrote in an online forum.

But as more people hear Pineda's truly stunning voice, the number of critics is likely to be drowned out by a roar of support. And the number of online rock stars is sure to skyrocket. "If you want to get discovered, you don't need a demo anymore," says Ayson. "Everyone's putting their stuff on YouTube now." It's a reminder to all of us: don't stop believing.

[wednesday's child]

I don't beleve it HAS been posted before.
Thanks!


wech

[mdaemon]

I don't beleve it HAS been posted before.
Thanks!


wech

The article's date is today, so yeah, I guess I got a MR scoop for my first post. Yey!

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[Barb]

Here's the link to Time Magazine's Article about Journey



But not all of Journey's die-hard fans — and there are plenty — have embraced Pineda with open arms. When Siobhan Tobin started an Arnel Pineda fan site in December, the Florida-based web developer says angry Journey fans left death threats on her answering machine. The band's traditional fanbase is mostly white and American, and some are upset that Pineda is neither. "Journey is supposed to be an all-American band," one fan wrote in an online forum.

Seriously? Death threats!?

[SteveForever]

Here's the link to Time Magazine's Article about Journey



But not all of Journey's die-hard fans — and there are plenty — have embraced Pineda with open arms. When Siobhan Tobin started an Arnel Pineda fan site in December, the Florida-based web developer says angry Journey fans left death threats on her answering machine. The band's traditional fanbase is mostly white and American, and some are upset that Pineda is neither. "Journey is supposed to be an all-American band," one fan wrote in an online forum.

Seriously? Death threats!?

I believe it...there are so many lunatics on the internet these days, present company excluded of course...

[Saint John]

Here's the link to Time Magazine's Article about Journey



But not all of Journey's die-hard fans — and there are plenty — have embraced Pineda with open arms. When Siobhan Tobin started an Arnel Pineda fan site in December, the Florida-based web developer says angry Journey fans left death threats on her answering machine. The band's traditional fanbase is mostly white and American, and some are upset that Pineda is neither. "Journey is supposed to be an all-American band," one fan wrote in an online forum.

Seriously? Death threats!?

I'm privy to some of these tales...disturbing to say the least. Alcohol+psychosis+sour grapes=juvenile phone pranks.

[Onestepper]

Here's the link to Time Magazine's Article about Journey



But not all of Journey's die-hard fans — and there are plenty — have embraced Pineda with open arms. When Siobhan Tobin started an Arnel Pineda fan site in December, the Florida-based web developer says angry Journey fans left death threats on her answering machine. The band's traditional fanbase is mostly white and American, and some are upset that Pineda is neither. "Journey is supposed to be an all-American band," one fan wrote in an online forum.

Seriously? Death threats!?

I'm privy to some of these tales...disturbing to say the least. Alcohol+psychosis+sour grapes=juvenile phone pranks.

I just Googled her. Her phone number is all over the Interwebs. At least her office number is.

[Red13JoePa]

I'm privy to some of these tales...disturbing to say the least. Alcohol+psychosis+sour grapes=juvenile phone pranks.

Yep.
The kind of crap that warrants a nice Van Damme esque heel of the palm right to the stupid forehead.

[Rhiannon]

The kind of crap that warrants a nice Van Damme esque heel of the palm right to the stupid forehead.

...Or a straight jacket and padded walls.

[Barb]

Here's the link to Time Magazine's Article about Journey



But not all of Journey's die-hard fans — and there are plenty — have embraced Pineda with open arms. When Siobhan Tobin started an Arnel Pineda fan site in December, the Florida-based web developer says angry Journey fans left death threats on her answering machine. The band's traditional fanbase is mostly white and American, and some are upset that Pineda is neither. "Journey is supposed to be an all-American band," one fan wrote in an online forum.

Seriously? Death threats!?

I'm privy to some of these tales...disturbing to say the least. Alcohol+psychosis+sour grapes=juvenile phone pranks.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but I am. Maybe this was one or two freaks? Now the whole world thinks there's a racist, psychotic, murderous sect of the Journey fan base. How embarrassing.

[strangegrey]

Oh great...now Siobhan/Susie/Whatever her name is illiciting sympathy for her cause with 'death threats'....I for one, do not believe it at all...She made her bed last year, and then complains about the fact that she earned herself some enemies. Rediculous.

I'm not doubting the fact that some journey fans can get psychotic...but this is laughable, to say the least.

[Jeremey]

Death threats? Please....How did Time get in touch with Siobhan/Susie anyways? What a dumb move to print that kind of bullshit. Death threats? Give me a break.

[Barb]

Oh great...now Siobhan/Susie/Whatever her name is illiciting sympathy for her cause with 'death threats'....I for one, do not believe it at all...She made her bed last year, and then complains about the fact that she earned herself some enemies. Rediculous.

I'm not doubting the fact that some journey fans can get psychotic...but this is laughable, to say the least.

Who is this person and where is her site?

[Rhiannon]

Death threats? Please....How did Time get in touch with Siobhan/Susie anyways? What a dumb move to print that kind of bullshit. Death threats? Give me a break.

No shit... who else about swallowed their tounge from that little nugget of print?

[Saint John]

Oh great...now Siobhan/Susie/Whatever her name is illiciting sympathy for her cause with 'death threats'....I for one, do not believe it at all...She made her bed last year, and then complains about the fact that she earned herself some enemies. Rediculous.

I'm not doubting the fact that some journey fans can get psychotic...but this is laughable, to say the least.

The "death threats" seem perfectly in line with youtube stalking, incessant photoshopping, constant fascination, and disturbing daily imagery. While I won't back it as fact, it is easily conceivable.

[strangegrey]

Oh great...now Siobhan/Susie/Whatever her name is illiciting sympathy for her cause with 'death threats'....I for one, do not believe it at all...She made her bed last year, and then complains about the fact that she earned herself some enemies. Rediculous.

I'm not doubting the fact that some journey fans can get psychotic...but this is laughable, to say the least.

The "death threats" seem perfectly in line with youtube stalking, incessant photoshopping, constant fascination, and disturbing daily imagery. While I won't back it as fact, it is easily conceivable.

I supose...but consider the source, Dan. Soibhan/Suzie/Whatever her name hasn't been genuine and honest with anyone online...EVER. I know you're first name, you know mine. If there's anything else you wanted to know about me, I'd gladly get on the phone and tell you...and it would be the truth.

Trust me, nothing you've ever heard from that person, is the truth...ever. So while you may or may not see what she claims as 'possible'...the source is *not* reliable.

Also, you fail to recognize and remember that she made her bed....she engaged in some significant acts of malice/slander using these fake names last year. The fact that her forum was flooded with nonsensical posts (the only thing that actually happened/can be confirmed to her forum) is not surprising at all.

It's a real stretch to go from someone flooding her forum with ugly pictures to saying she got personal phone calls with death threats....laughable....really.

[Jeremey]

Oh great...now Siobhan/Susie/Whatever her name is illiciting sympathy for her cause with 'death threats'....I for one, do not believe it at all...She made her bed last year, and then complains about the fact that she earned herself some enemies. Rediculous.

I'm not doubting the fact that some journey fans can get psychotic...but this is laughable, to say the least.

The "death threats" seem perfectly in line with youtube stalking, incessant photoshopping, constant fascination, and disturbing daily imagery. While I won't back it as fact, it is easily conceivable.

Oh come on Dan, you know the person they quoted is an internet weirdo with multiple personalities that actually disrupted the hell out of this site about a year ago...You want to make the leap from photoshopping to death threats? Can't see how that is an easy leap to make. On the other hand, someone who would PM me under different user names playing one off of the other in some odd soap opera drama does seem capable of making up fake death threats. Nice drama to create, especially in a nationally respected weekly magazine. Don't give that person any credibility.

[Red13JoePa]

Could've been done in alcohol-induced gest, right?

J, mega props on the fantastic tune that is Never Walk Away. Didn't Neal say that has (desevedly) charted as well?

[Jeremey]

Could've been done in alcohol-induced gest, right?

J, mega props on the fantastic tune that is Never Walk Away. Didn't Neal say that has (desevedly) charted as well?

Flat out, I can't see that happening at all. Death threats? Sorry, I guess I just see a vast difference between photoshopping and publically engaging people versus private death threats, drunk, high, or otherwise...

Thanks for the props though! I appreciate it...

[Saint John]

Oh great...now Siobhan/Susie/Whatever her name is illiciting sympathy for her cause with 'death threats'....I for one, do not believe it at all...She made her bed last year, and then complains about the fact that she earned herself some enemies. Rediculous.

I'm not doubting the fact that some journey fans can get psychotic...but this is laughable, to say the least.

The "death threats" seem perfectly in line with youtube stalking, incessant photoshopping, constant fascination, and disturbing daily imagery. While I won't back it as fact, it is easily conceivable.

Oh come on Dan, you know the person they quoted is an internet weirdo with multiple personalities that actually disrupted the hell out of this site about a year ago...You want to make the leap from photoshopping to death threats? Can't see how that is an easy leap to make. On the other hand, someone who would PM me under different user names playing one off of the other in some odd soap opera drama does seem capable of making up fake death threats. Nice drama to create, especially in a nationally respected weekly magazine. Don't give that person any credibility.

"Internet weirdo" aside, I can totally see the "jump" being made from photoshopping to phone calls. In fact, it was made. I received, via messenger rather than phone call, the exact same sort of threats. Of course I doubled over with laughter at the mere visual, but that doesn't mean others didn't find this alarming. And yes, it was alcohol induced, but I'm assuming these calls were as well. Phones and computers are great means of protection for psychotic people.

[Onestepper]

I will say that you read about these death threats in all types of articles, and rarely, if ever, does a reporter ask to hear the threats or follow up with...'well did you turn it over to the authorities?' It's too easily dismissed as 'I deleted them' to ever know if someone is making stuff up to get attention. I would say that enough people have credible evidence that this woman at best is a trouble maker, so anything written about her claims I'm going to put in the category of unsubstantiated.

[Rhiannon]

I would say that enough people have credible evidence that this woman at best is a trouble maker, so anything written about her claims I'm going to put in the category of unsubstantiated.

But the thousands of people reading Time magazine don't know this and that's the problem.

[Jeremey]

Oh great...now Siobhan/Susie/Whatever her name is illiciting sympathy for her cause with 'death threats'....I for one, do not believe it at all...She made her bed last year, and then complains about the fact that she earned herself some enemies. Rediculous.

I'm not doubting the fact that some journey fans can get psychotic...but this is laughable, to say the least.

The "death threats" seem perfectly in line with youtube stalking, incessant photoshopping, constant fascination, and disturbing daily imagery. While I won't back it as fact, it is easily conceivable.

Oh come on Dan, you know the person they quoted is an internet weirdo with multiple personalities that actually disrupted the hell out of this site about a year ago...You want to make the leap from photoshopping to death threats? Can't see how that is an easy leap to make. On the other hand, someone who would PM me under different user names playing one off of the other in some odd soap opera drama does seem capable of making up fake death threats. Nice drama to create, especially in a nationally respected weekly magazine. Don't give that person any credibility.

"Internet weirdo" aside, I can totally see the "jump" being made from photoshopping to phone calls. In fact, it was made. I received, via messenger rather than phone call, the exact same sort of threats. Of course I doubled over with laughter at the mere visual, but that doesn't mean others didn't find this alarming. And yes, it was alcohol induced, but I'm assuming these calls were as well. Phones and computers are great means of protection for psychotic people.

So you also received death threats?

[Onestepper]

I would say that enough people have credible evidence that this woman at best is a trouble maker, so anything written about her claims I'm going to put in the category of unsubstantiated.

But the thousands of people reading Time magazine don't know this and that's the problem.

Agreed. The reporter should have followed up more on the point, but it appears they were more focused on sensationalism, rather than fact. Who would have thought.

[Barb]

I would say that enough people have credible evidence that this woman at best is a trouble maker, so anything written about her claims I'm going to put in the category of unsubstantiated.

But the thousands of people reading Time magazine don't know this and that's the problem.

Agreed. The reporter should have followed up more on the point, but it appears they were more focused on sensationalism, rather than fact. Who would have thought.

Anything to highlight the racist, violent nature of white America against a foreigner.

[Saint John]

Oh great...now Siobhan/Susie/Whatever her name is illiciting sympathy for her cause with 'death threats'....I for one, do not believe it at all...She made her bed last year, and then complains about the fact that she earned herself some enemies. Rediculous.

I'm not doubting the fact that some journey fans can get psychotic...but this is laughable, to say the least.

The "death threats" seem perfectly in line with youtube stalking, incessant photoshopping, constant fascination, and disturbing daily imagery. While I won't back it as fact, it is easily conceivable.

Oh come on Dan, you know the person they quoted is an internet weirdo with multiple personalities that actually disrupted the hell out of this site about a year ago...You want to make the leap from photoshopping to death threats? Can't see how that is an easy leap to make. On the other hand, someone who would PM me under different user names playing one off of the other in some odd soap opera drama does seem capable of making up fake death threats. Nice drama to create, especially in a nationally respected weekly magazine. Don't give that person any credibility.

"Internet weirdo" aside, I can totally see the "jump" being made from photoshopping to phone calls. In fact, it was made. I received, via messenger rather than phone call, the exact same sort of threats. Of course I doubled over with laughter at the mere visual, but that doesn't mean others didn't find this alarming. And yes, it was alcohol induced, but I'm assuming these calls were as well. Phones and computers are great means of protection for psychotic people.

So you also received death threats?

I was told that at one of your shows, someone that seemingly had too much to drink said that if he "ever saw me again" he was "gonna break a beer bottle over my head" and stab with me with it. Additionally, he wanted to "kill" me. Do I think it was alcohol induced rambling? Sure...but that neither excuses it nor makes it out of the realm of possibility that this person, or another person, did the same to "Siobhan Tobin."

[DrFU]

Oh great...now Siobhan/Susie/Whatever her name is illiciting sympathy for her cause with 'death threats'....I for one, do not believe it at all...She made her bed last year, and then complains about the fact that she earned herself some enemies. Rediculous.

I'm not doubting the fact that some journey fans can get psychotic...but this is laughable, to say the least.

The "death threats" seem perfectly in line with youtube stalking, incessant photoshopping, constant fascination, and disturbing daily imagery. While I won't back it as fact, it is easily conceivable.

I agree & I don't get why folks seem so astonished that Time reported it. People say unreal things in this forum on a regular basis, like the guy who posted a wish for "two tiny coffins" for Deano and Lula's twins in the congratulations thread right after they were born.

[Red13JoePa]

Oh, you mean Reardon?
Yea, a good guy.

He's a philanthropic social worker by day.

[Onestepper]

Oh great...now Siobhan/Susie/Whatever her name is illiciting sympathy for her cause with 'death threats'....I for one, do not believe it at all...She made her bed last year, and then complains about the fact that she earned herself some enemies. Rediculous.

I'm not doubting the fact that some journey fans can get psychotic...but this is laughable, to say the least.

The "death threats" seem perfectly in line with youtube stalking, incessant photoshopping, constant fascination, and disturbing daily imagery. While I won't back it as fact, it is easily conceivable.

I agree & I don't get why folks seem so astonished that Time reported it. People say unreal things in this forum on a regular basis, like the guy who posted a wish for "two tiny coffins" for Deano and Lula's twins in the congratulations thread right after they were born.

Not that they reported it. They are going to report something like that. It's the lack of follow up to see if maybe any other AP tribute sites have had the issue? Regardless, I think it's just as hard to prove as disprove.

[strangegrey]

"Internet weirdo" aside, I can totally see the "jump" being made from photoshopping to phone calls. In fact, it was made. I received, via messenger rather than phone call, the exact same sort of threats. Of course I doubled over with laughter at the mere visual, but that doesn't mean others didn't find this alarming. And yes, it was alcohol induced, but I'm assuming these calls were as well. Phones and computers are great means of protection for psychotic people.

You're failing to consider the source here, Dan. This person is responsible for alot of rather serious slander/malice. Please note, my education and profession demand that I have a rather firm grasp on the law and I know what's required of the accuser, in order to prove such a thing. People have claimed slander and malice without such proof, here and elsewhere. All I will say is that you're going to have to recognize that I *know* what I'm talking about when I am crying 'slander'...and she was guilty of it.

I don't know how much you have involved yourself with this person, but I guarantee you, what you were told by her what happened and what actually happened are two different things. She's, among other things, a liar...and you appear to be a gullable beneficiary of her inability for veracity.

Again, I reitterate, what did happen to her...i.e. the flooding of her site with nonsensical posts (something I had nothing to do with) seems to be kharma rearing its very justified head, on a person that deserved every bit of it. I'm sorry to say, Time magazine, you and a few others have been 'had' by a deceitful psychopath.