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Postby scarygirl » Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:12 pm

RedWingFan wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
Barb wrote:I met Neal once with Bad English and he was very cool to me. I met him again after a Journey show after Voice came out. I had him autograph it and he was really sweet and asked me how I liked it, etc.

That's probably got because you've got 2 tits and a vagina!!!! :lol:



Neal was nice to me the 2 times I have met him too

I've seen your pic. I'd be nice to you too! :D



:oops: Awe thanks :)


Get a room you two!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

I said I'd be nice to her. I didn't tell her I'd make her fall in love with me! :lol:


Maybe Andrew should change the name of his website to Melodicmatch.com :wink:
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Postby G.I.Jim » Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:13 pm

scarygirl wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
Barb wrote:I met Neal once with Bad English and he was very cool to me. I met him again after a Journey show after Voice came out. I had him autograph it and he was really sweet and asked me how I liked it, etc.

That's probably got because you've got 2 tits and a vagina!!!! :lol:



Neal was nice to me the 2 times I have met him too

I've seen your pic. I'd be nice to you too! :D



:oops: Awe thanks :)


Get a room you two!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

I said I'd be nice to her. I didn't tell her I'd make her fall in love with me! :lol:


Maybe Andrew should change the name of his website to Melodicmatch.com :wink:


:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby StevePerryHair » Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:26 pm

G.I.Jim wrote:
scarygirl wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
Barb wrote:I met Neal once with Bad English and he was very cool to me. I met him again after a Journey show after Voice came out. I had him autograph it and he was really sweet and asked me how I liked it, etc.

That's probably got because you've got 2 tits and a vagina!!!! :lol:



Neal was nice to me the 2 times I have met him too

I've seen your pic. I'd be nice to you too! :D



:oops: Awe thanks :)


Get a room you two!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

I said I'd be nice to her. I didn't tell her I'd make her fall in love with me! :lol:


Maybe Andrew should change the name of his website to Melodicmatch.com :wink:


:lol: :lol: :lol:


I think you all have your minds in the gutter :P I mean really, "nice" could mean a handshake :roll: :lol:
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Postby scarygirl » Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:47 pm

StevePerryHair wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
scarygirl wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
Barb wrote:I met Neal once with Bad English and he was very cool to me. I met him again after a Journey show after Voice came out. I had him autograph it and he was really sweet and asked me how I liked it, etc.

That's probably got because you've got 2 tits and a vagina!!!! :lol:



Neal was nice to me the 2 times I have met him too

I've seen your pic. I'd be nice to you too! :D



:oops: Awe thanks :)


Get a room you two!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

I said I'd be nice to her. I didn't tell her I'd make her fall in love with me! :lol:


Maybe Andrew should change the name of his website to Melodicmatch.com :wink:


:lol: :lol: :lol:


I think you all have your minds in the gutter :P I mean really, "nice" could mean a handshake :roll: :lol:


No, that's not it. :twisted:
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Postby StoneCold » Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:23 pm

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Rick wrote:Yep, and while I love Eric Clapton, I'm sure glad Neal didn't join him.


I honestly think if you got Clapton, Neal, and SRV (if he were still here) all on stage to jam, the world would reach critical mass and implode.

It'd be that awesome. 8)


Let's save Clapton the embarrassment. Schon MIGHT be able to hold his own.

SRV? I can watch him all day. :)

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Postby Just Sara » Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:03 pm

StevePerryHair wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:That's probably got because you've got 2 tits and a vagina!!!! :lol:


Neal was nice to me the 2 times I have met him too, once actually after he was done eating lunch in a restaurant he happened to walk into when we were eating. I think what you say may be the common denominator though, when I see it's the females with most of the positive stories :lol:



Well that's encouraging... I guess. :lol:
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Postby strangegrey » Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:18 pm

StoneCold wrote:
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Rick wrote:Yep, and while I love Eric Clapton, I'm sure glad Neal didn't join him.


I honestly think if you got Clapton, Neal, and SRV (if he were still here) all on stage to jam, the world would reach critical mass and implode.

It'd be that awesome. 8)


Let's save Clapton the embarrassment. Schon MIGHT be able to hold his own.


Oh for fucks sake!!!! Let's remove Schon from this rediculous pedastal you've placed him on with guitar gods like Clapton and SRV. Totally different style of music, realm of appreciation and degree of touch sensitivity, purely from a guitarist standpoint. They're not in the same league. Sorry. No way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upQiz1pyO9I

check out around 3:20 of this and then try to tell me with a STRAIGHT face that you think Schon belongs on the same untouchable pedastal of Clapton and SRV.

Ugh.....I've seen some idiotic posts here, but lets try to keep things from getting so rediculous that I have to fight back regurgitating my breakfast on my keyboard...I've done enough of that since June 3rd, thank you! :roll:
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Postby SF-Dano » Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:17 am

strangegrey wrote:
StoneCold wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
Rick wrote:Yep, and while I love Eric Clapton, I'm sure glad Neal didn't join him.


I honestly think if you got Clapton, Neal, and SRV (if he were still here) all on stage to jam, the world would reach critical mass and implode.

It'd be that awesome. 8)


Let's save Clapton the embarrassment. Schon MIGHT be able to hold his own.


Oh for fucks sake!!!! Let's remove Schon from this rediculous pedastal you've placed him on with guitar gods like Clapton and SRV. Totally different style of music, realm of appreciation and degree of touch sensitivity, purely from a guitarist standpoint. They're not in the same league. Sorry. No way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upQiz1pyO9I

check out around 3:20 of this and then try to tell me with a STRAIGHT face that you think Schon belongs on the same untouchable pedastal of Clapton and SRV.

Ugh.....I've seen some idiotic posts here, but lets try to keep things from getting so rediculous that I have to fight back regurgitating my breakfast on my keyboard...I've done enough of that since June 3rd, thank you! :roll:


Again your personal bias clouds the reality of the situation. Schon can definately hold his own with EC and SRV. Different styles for sure, but talent wise not much of a difference between NS and EC. IMO, SRV was the greatest blues player of all time. Also IMO, there is nothing EC can play that Schon could not.

No pedestal here, Schon is among the best guitar players in the world. And if you asked EC or if SRV were still around, I bet they would give Neal high props.
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:18 am

SF-Dano wrote:No pedestal here, Schon is among the best guitar players in the world. And if you asked EC or if SRV were still around, I bet they would give Neal high props.


I believe Clapton has already said as much.
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Postby EightyRock » Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:32 am

Let's just compare EC and SRV. Bwahaaaaaaaaa!!! EC is great, but SRV has a gift second only to Hendrix. Different types of music, yeah, but same calibur of gift.
Neal has lost some of his gift, IMO, or at the very least altered his style. He replaced sustained melody for nine million notes on the fingerboard, or as many as he can fit into each solo. It gets worse with every CD. I just want to tell him to slow the hell down and play something really memorable, like parts of his instrumental song on Revelation. More notes does not equate MORE talent. Style, overall sound and melodics count for alot more, IMO.
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:34 am

EightyRock wrote:Let's just compare EC and SRV. Bwahaaaaaaaaa!!! EC is great, but SRV has a gift second only to Hendrix. Different types of music, yeah, but same calibur of gift.
Neal has lost some of his gift, IMO, or at the very least altered his style. He replaced sustained melody for nine million notes on the fingerboard, or as many as he can fit into each solo. It gets worse with every CD. I just want to tell him to slow the hell down and play something really memorable, like parts of his instrumental song on Revelation. More notes does not equate MORE talent. Style, overall sound and melodics count for alot more, IMO.


There's plenty of slower, more melodic playing on "Revelation".
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Postby EightyRock » Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:46 am

Ya think? :lol: I've heard plenty of the opposite that I just described, too, on Revelations. I'm not the first one to ever mention Neal's penchant for overplaying a solo over the years. He doesn't need to do it to prove he's good.
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Postby S2M » Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:48 am

Vinnie Vincent smokes 'em all..... :lol:
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Postby SF-Dano » Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:06 am

EightyRock wrote:Let's just compare EC and SRV. Bwahaaaaaaaaa!!! EC is great, but SRV has a gift second only to Hendrix. Different types of music, yeah, but same calibur of gift.
Neal has lost some of his gift, IMO, or at the very least altered his style. He replaced sustained melody for nine million notes on the fingerboard, or as many as he can fit into each solo. It gets worse with every CD. I just want to tell him to slow the hell down and play something really memorable, like parts of his instrumental song on Revelation. More notes does not equate MORE talent. Style, overall sound and melodics count for alot more, IMO.


Thank you for stating the above as opinion. In many ways I too prefer Neal's older more "melodic" style, but that does not mean he has lost his "gift". It is possible that NS expressed himself as much as he wanted to in that style.

I agree with conversationpc that Revelation has more "melodic" playing from Neal on it than the last 3 Journey releases. Also, on Neal's solo CD "Voice" from just a few years back you can find some of Neal's finest "melodic" playing.

It is all in the ear of the listener and what style a fan likes to hear most.

And I totally agree that SRV had something very, very special. His loss to the world of blues and music in general can not be understated. Truely one of the absolute "gods" of guitar. I still miss his playing to this day. :(
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:25 am

SF-Dano wrote:And I totally agree that SRV had something very, very special. His loss to the world of blues and music in general can not be understated. Truely one of the absolute "gods" of guitar. I still miss his playing to this day. :(


Amen to that. He was the reason I discovered a lot of other good blues players as well. He is still unmatched, in my opinion.
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Postby S2M » Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:27 am

CAn I please get an amen from SOMEBODY. Cause Jimi wasn't ALL THAT.

And you can put one vote for Prince, cause that dude can smoke on guitar....and just about every other instrument as well....
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Postby strangegrey » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:45 am

I'm not stating Neal isn't a great player.

He is *NOT* comparable to SRV and EC....and when he tries to hang with players like above mentioned players, or Albert King....he gets his lunch handed to him.

It's not opinion here SF-Dano. It's fact. You either haven't looked at the video I posted or are chosing to ignore the extremely incriminating evidence. It is you, who is allowing personal bias to get in the way.

Lets be honest here...he doesn't belong in the blues/bluesrock realm any more than EC or SRV belongs in the MR/AOR/Hard Rock realm.

Sorry...It's nothing to do with my feelings on Neal Schon as a dispicable human being with zero morals or ethics. It has everything to do with my opinion on his guitar playing...something I studied in depth for well over 20 years. He's a gifted rock guitarist....but he is NOT a gifted blues guitarist.



Moving on, now that the bullshit has been dealt with....Neals playing on Revelations has dropped several notches. I blame it on his overuse and over reliance on those damn fernandes sustainers. The same thing happened to EVH. Those things are a crutch when you use them to the effect that Neal and EVH have used them. Both players have suffered technically as a result. Listen to the redone solo on FITH on revelations. Then listen to the Generations version....disregarding your opinion of which version is better, and simply listening to the technical execution of the solo.....the revelation one, pales in comparison. Technically, it's executed poorly, in comparison to the original.
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Postby conversationpc » Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:52 am

strangegrey wrote:I'm not stating Neal isn't a great player.

He is *NOT* comparable to SRV and EC....and when he tries to hang with players like above mentioned players, or Albert King....he gets his lunch handed to him.

It's not opinion here SF-Dano. It's fact. You either haven't looked at the video I posted or are chosing to ignore the extremely incriminating evidence. It is you, who is allowing personal bias to get in the way.

Lets be honest here...he doesn't belong in the blues/bluesrock realm any more than EC or SRV belongs in the MR/AOR/Hard Rock realm.


I don't know. I've seen a few vids posted over at Youtube of Neal jamming with other players and he's always been very good except for the video you posted.

Moving on, now that the bullshit has been dealt with....Neals playing on Revelations has dropped several notches. I blame it on his overuse and over reliance on those damn fernandes sustainers. The same thing happened to EVH. Those things are a crutch when you use them to the effect that Neal and EVH have used them. Both players have suffered technically as a result. Listen to the redone solo on FITH on revelations. Then listen to the Generations version....disregarding your opinion of which version is better, and simply listening to the technical execution of the solo.....the revelation one, pales in comparison. Technically, it's executed poorly, in comparison to the original.


Interesting...I'll have to listen more closely to those now. Thanks for the tip.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:17 am

strangegrey wrote:I'm not stating Neal isn't a great player.

He is *NOT* comparable to SRV and EC....and when he tries to hang with players like above mentioned players, or Albert King....he gets his lunch handed to him.

It's not opinion here SF-Dano. It's fact. You either haven't looked at the video I posted or are chosing to ignore the extremely incriminating evidence. It is you, who is allowing personal bias to get in the way.

Lets be honest here...he doesn't belong in the blues/bluesrock realm any more than EC or SRV belongs in the MR/AOR/Hard Rock realm.

Sorry...It's nothing to do with my feelings on Neal Schon as a dispicable human being with zero morals or ethics. It has everything to do with my opinion on his guitar playing...something I studied in depth for well over 20 years. He's a gifted rock guitarist....but he is NOT a gifted blues guitarist.



Moving on, now that the bullshit has been dealt with....Neals playing on Revelations has dropped several notches. I blame it on his overuse and over reliance on those damn fernandes sustainers. The same thing happened to EVH. Those things are a crutch when you use them to the effect that Neal and EVH have used them. Both players have suffered technically as a result. Listen to the redone solo on FITH on revelations. Then listen to the Generations version....disregarding your opinion of which version is better, and simply listening to the technical execution of the solo.....the revelation one, pales in comparison. Technically, it's executed poorly, in comparison to the original.


I really think his playing is actually going up, it's just the way he's using his chops nowadays + his tone doesn't come off on tape nearly as well as it does live. I actually really like when Neal shreds - it's more of a raw "rock" shredding rather than the super technical playing of guys like Petrucci and Satch (not that they aren't great, Neal's is just different). Neal obviously isn't in their league technically, but I definitely don't think he's getting WORSE. I don't hear anything technically wrong with the FITH solo on Revelations, I just hate how he whammys into the G# that starts the solo (is it G# on Revelations? Pretty sure it is on Gens.. don't have a guitar up here to check atm) on Revs and all the other gay sounding effects. I don't think that's a sign of chops going down tho.

Also, I think Neal is a lot more schooled in blues/blues-rock than you think. I don't think Santana would have invited him if Neal wasn't an established blues/fusion player. Would I rather hear SRV do the blues over Neal? Of course but... anyway, I don't think Neal's as clueless on blues as you think...

That video was pretty bad on Neal's part but let's face it we all have off nights. And who knows, Neal was probably bombed here. I've heard him and seen him demo some real nice blues stuff on videos and guitar mag cds and stuff. the other guys didn't sound too hot either. Probably some bad monitors and/or stage mix. But anyway, would you consider stuff like Big Moon and I'll Be Alright Without You to be "melodic rock" solos or something closer to blues? Just food for thought..
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Postby SF-Dano » Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:32 am

strangegrey wrote:I'm not stating Neal isn't a great player.

He is *NOT* comparable to SRV and EC....and when he tries to hang with players like above mentioned players, or Albert King....he gets his lunch handed to him.

It's not opinion here SF-Dano. It's fact. You either haven't looked at the video I posted or are chosing to ignore the extremely incriminating evidence. It is you, who is allowing personal bias to get in the way.

Lets be honest here...he doesn't belong in the blues/bluesrock realm any more than EC or SRV belongs in the MR/AOR/Hard Rock realm.

Sorry...It's nothing to do with my feelings on Neal Schon as a dispicable human being with zero morals or ethics. It has everything to do with my opinion on his guitar playing...something I studied in depth for well over 20 years. He's a gifted rock guitarist....but he is NOT a gifted blues guitarist.



Moving on, now that the bullshit has been dealt with....Neals playing on Revelations has dropped several notches. I blame it on his overuse and over reliance on those damn fernandes sustainers. The same thing happened to EVH. Those things are a crutch when you use them to the effect that Neal and EVH have used them. Both players have suffered technically as a result. Listen to the redone solo on FITH on revelations. Then listen to the Generations version....disregarding your opinion of which version is better, and simply listening to the technical execution of the solo.....the revelation one, pales in comparison. Technically, it's executed poorly, in comparison to the original.


I have highlighted above where you state your comment as fact and then as opinion. Hey no quarrell, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. I didn't watch the video you posted, sorry. However as others have stated I have seen Neal jam the blues on more than one occasion over the years and the man can play the blues. I will repeat, IMO, Neal can play anything Clapton can play and just as well. Clapton is a solid blues player, but his legend status comes from being a pioneer of the English blues/rock invasion. I will also concede that in the blues field, SRV is superior to Neal. Hell, when it comes to blues, IMO SRV is superior to all.

I will chalk it up to us just having differing tastes in what we like when it comes to blues chops and what we consider talented playing in that field.

How's that for diplomacy. :lol: :) 8)
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Postby jrnyman28 » Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:24 am

Tito wrote:Neal has never blown off a fan.


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