Obama plans to disarm America!!!

[ScarabGator]

Some of you will have to pipe down I read a few weeks back in Time Magazine, that Obama has an internet squad tracking down all this negativity and these terrorism slurs, might just want to keep trouble away from Drews site as the way it was reported, they mean business
Carry on and apologies for jumping in and straight back out

those bastards can start right here with me then!!!! I will never acknowledge him as President if he wins.

[ForceInfinity]

Scarab's okay in my books. I'm just having a discussion. Pressing him on his points. He'll press me on mine. We talk it out. Who knows, we might learn something from the deal. He's being cool about this discussion, so its all good.

*shrugs*

[ScarabGator]

Scarab. Not to piss you off, but I dont wear a flag pin on my clothing, I dont put my hand on my heart during a flag thing. That sure as hell doesn't make me a closet terrorist, or somehow any less of an american than the next pesrson.

The thing is, it wasn't even the pledge of allegiance, but the national anthem.
And that said, plenty of footage exists of Obama having his hand over his heart in the past.
This is more smear shit like the Obama book quotes posted on this forum that turned out to have been doctored.
How do you pigs sleep at night?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/anthem.asp

Pigs??? Wow, that was uncalled for.

[Ehwmatt]

Some of you will have to pipe down I read a few weeks back in Time Magazine, that Obama has an internet squad tracking down all this negativity and these terrorism slurs, might just want to keep trouble away from Drews site as the way it was reported, they mean business
Carry on and apologies for jumping in and straight back out

A taste of what's to come for his presidency no doubt. The State is watching (and owning) you

[Perrydise]

Some of you will have to pipe down I read a few weeks back in Time Magazine, that Obama has an internet squad tracking down all this negativity and these terrorism slurs, might just want to keep trouble away from Drews site as the way it was reported, they mean business
Carry on and apologies for jumping in and straight back out

Is he concerned that the TRUTH is being told?

[Rick]

Sigh... you know I don't like either canidate, but some of the shit I hear just makes me wonder sometimes.

Obama muslim? Riiiiight. Raised Christian and somehow he's muslim. Next thing we know people will be calling me a closet Buddist or something

McCain good for the military? Shit if he follow's Bush's lead then god help the military. Bush's crew already screwed the pooch with the Iraq strategy (if you're going to attack, attack with great enough numbers and plan for the worst after you topple a government). On top of all that we run a fiscal policy that triggers stagflation.

Obama? Tax the oil companys? Yeah right. The reason the oil prices are so damned high is that we are running frigging trade/budget deficits that force us to print more money and *gasp* cause inflation. Because of inflation, the dollar tanks. Dollar tanks, the oil goes up just on virtue of that since its traded in dollars. If someone had a clue, we would raise our short term rates back to 5%. Yeah it'll screw the economy, but inflation needs kept under control

The problem with republicans these days is they spend money like democrats, but they sure as hell don't care if we have the money to pay for all those checks they write.

McCain just as bad as Obama, but if you're going to diss either individual, at least get your fucking facts straight. Quit this Obama is a muslim or McCain isn't a war hero shit.

With all due respect to you my facts are straight. You dont know what you will have with obama within 2 years of being President. At least with McCain you sort of know what to expect and he is an American hero. obama scares the hell out of me.

See that's the thing. You know what you're getting with McCain and in my estimation isn't any good. With Obama, it's a gamble, but he could turn out to be a fantastic president. On the other hand maybe not, nobody knows. I'm not sure I want to cast a vote for someone I think is going to keep steering this country in the same direction it is in now, McCain, or for the unknown.

[styxman]

Some of you will have to pipe down I read a few weeks back in Time Magazine, that Obama has an internet squad tracking down all this negativity and these terrorism slurs, might just want to keep trouble away from Drews site as the way it was reported, they mean business
Carry on and apologies for jumping in and straight back out

Thanks dude. Where are all of your HBC pics?
Put one up where she's dressed up like a monkey. She was a hot assed monkey!

I know I miss them too, Laura use to convert the picture links for me, I haven't a fuckin' clue how to do it

[RedWingFan]

Some of you will have to pipe down I read a few weeks back in Time Magazine, that Obama has an internet squad tracking down all this negativity and these terrorism slurs, might just want to keep trouble away from Drews site as the way it was reported, they mean business
Carry on and apologies for jumping in and straight back out

Thanks dude. Where are all of your HBC pics?
Put one up where she's dressed up like a monkey. She was a hot assed monkey!

I know I miss them too, Laura use to convert the picture links for me, I haven't a fuckin' clue how to do it

Where the hell is Laura? Don't worry I'll get my boy Rick on the case. Rick, can you help styxie out for me? Thanks.

[ScarabGator]

Scarab's okay in my books. I'm just having a discussion. Pressing him on his points. He'll press me on mine. We talk it out. Who knows, we might learn something from the deal. He's being cool about this discussion, so its all good.

*shrugs*

You are alright with me too, FI! You are always very level headed and I respect that! No, Im not looking for any shit today.

[Rick]

Some of you will have to pipe down I read a few weeks back in Time Magazine, that Obama has an internet squad tracking down all this negativity and these terrorism slurs, might just want to keep trouble away from Drews site as the way it was reported, they mean business
Carry on and apologies for jumping in and straight back out

Thanks dude. Where are all of your HBC pics?
Put one up where she's dressed up like a monkey. She was a hot assed monkey!

I know I miss them too, Laura use to convert the picture links for me, I haven't a fuckin' clue how to do it

Where the hell is Laura? Don't worry I'll get my boy Rick on the case. Rick, can you help styxie out for me? Thanks.

Yep, show me the picture and I'll hook a brother up.

[The_Noble_Cause]

A taste of what's to come for his presidency no doubt. The State is watching (and owning) you

Are you for real?
The Dems and Repubs just granted retroactive legal immunity to the telecomm companies who broke the law and partook in Bush's illegal wiretapping.
We're already there.

[styxman]

Some of you will have to pipe down I read a few weeks back in Time Magazine, that Obama has an internet squad tracking down all this negativity and these terrorism slurs, might just want to keep trouble away from Drews site as the way it was reported, they mean business
Carry on and apologies for jumping in and straight back out

A taste of what's to come for his presidency no doubt. The State is watching (and owning) you

It stated that they're asking the public to report any slur against him and report the site, it's kinda like big brother...good luck to you all, at least you haven't got Gordon Brown

[Ehwmatt]

See that's the thing. You know what you're getting with McCain and in my estimation isn't any good. With Obama, it's a gamble, but he could turn out to be a fantastic president. On the other hand maybe not, nobody knows. I'm not sure I want to cast a vote for someone I think is going to keep steering this country in the same direction it is in now, McCain, or for the unknown.

143 days of experience as a junior senator does not make a qualified presidential candidate. Would a first year staff attorney be promoted to general counsel of a corporation after 6 months on the job? That's the problem I see, policy aside.

[RedWingFan]

Some of you will have to pipe down I read a few weeks back in Time Magazine, that Obama has an internet squad tracking down all this negativity and these terrorism slurs, might just want to keep trouble away from Drews site as the way it was reported, they mean business
Carry on and apologies for jumping in and straight back out

Thanks dude. Where are all of your HBC pics?
Put one up where she's dressed up like a monkey. She was a hot assed monkey!

I know I miss them too, Laura use to convert the picture links for me, I haven't a fuckin' clue how to do it

Where the hell is Laura? Don't worry I'll get my boy Rick on the case. Rick, can you help styxie out for me? Thanks.

Yep, show me the picture and I'll hook a brother up.

Just do a search of Helena Bonham Carter pics. I think I spelled it right.
And start off with her dressed up as the hot assed monkey!!!!

[Ehwmatt]

A taste of what's to come for his presidency no doubt. The State is watching (and owning) you

Are you for real?
The Dems and Repubs just granted retroactive legal immunity to the telecomm companies who broke the law and partook in Bush's illegal wiretapping.
We're already there.

Yeah, only I don't see Bush trolling internet forums and blogs to find people calling him stupid or calling him a monkey.

[styxman]

Some of you will have to pipe down I read a few weeks back in Time Magazine, that Obama has an internet squad tracking down all this negativity and these terrorism slurs, might just want to keep trouble away from Drews site as the way it was reported, they mean business
Carry on and apologies for jumping in and straight back out

Thanks dude. Where are all of your HBC pics?
Put one up where she's dressed up like a monkey. She was a hot assed monkey!

I know I miss them too, Laura use to convert the picture links for me, I haven't a fuckin' clue how to do it

Where the hell is Laura? Don't worry I'll get my boy Rick on the case. Rick, can you help styxie out for me? Thanks.

Yep, show me the picture and I'll hook a brother up.

Thanks Rick, I'll PM it across

[X factor]

Nobody doubts we spend more on military spending than most nations combined - much of it wasteful.
The GAO has said as much repeatedly.
Most of the programs he listed are antiquated or unproven at best.
There is no smoke here.
Why were there no threads calling Bush an appeaser after recently negotiating a faustian bargain over in N. Korea?

DAMN RIGHT! Where's the outrage at THIS? OR when he's fucking holding hands and swaping spit with the Saudi's???

Good points, TNC. Well played!

[The_Noble_Cause]

Yeah, only I don't see Bush trolling internet forums and blogs to find people calling him stupid or calling him a monkey.

If Bush used rendition to apprehend those people and sent them to an overseas CIA black site where they had no habeas corpus, how would you ever know?

Obama is within his right to do what he is doing.
The Washington Post even followed the "Pssst..Obama is a Muslim" emails back to ther source and it turned out to be none other than the FreeRepublic.com Conservative web site.
Unlike Kerry or Dukakis, Obama is not going to take this laying down.

[Ehwmatt]

Yeah, only I don't see Bush trolling internet forums and blogs to find people calling him stupid or calling him a monkey.

If Bush used rendition to apprehend those people and sent them to an overseas CIA black site where they had no habeas corpus, how would you ever know?

Obama is within his right to do what he is doing.
The Washington Post even followed the "Pssst..Obama is a Muslim" emails back to ther source and it turned out to be none other than the FreeRepublic.com Conservative web site.
Unlike Kerry or Dukakis, Obama is not going to take this laying down.

Because then there wouldn't be so many people making said remarks and Bush's approval rating wouldn't be at an all time low, all those people would be taken away by the big bad CIA to a shadow facility and Bush would have a 100% approval rating. See, I'm not making Obama is a Muslim remarks and otherwise rumor mongering. Do you really think a conspiracy theory like this is any better than the people repeating unsubstantiated shit about Obama?

[The_Noble_Cause]

See, I'm not making Obama is a Muslim remarks and otherwise rumor mongering. Do you really think a conspiracy theory like this is any better than the people repeating unsubstantiated shit about Obama?

It's a scenario made frighteningly plausible by decisions like the Military Commissions Act.

Inflamatory Obama book quotes posted on this forum turned out to have been doctored, and the above-mentioned pledge of allegiance thing is false.
I haven't made anything out of whole cloth when it comes to defaming Bush. I don't have to.

[styxman]

A taste of what's to come for his presidency no doubt. The State is watching (and owning) you

Are you for real?
The Dems and Repubs just granted retroactive legal immunity to the telecomm companies who broke the law and partook in Bush's illegal wiretapping.
We're already there.

Yeah, only I don't see Bush trolling internet forums and blogs to find people calling him stupid or calling him a monkey.

Would Bush know how to use the internet

Here you go Red, thanks Rick. I don't like her as a Monkey but if it keeps Red happy that's cool

[RedWingFan]

A taste of what's to come for his presidency no doubt. The State is watching (and owning) you

Are you for real?
The Dems and Repubs just granted retroactive legal immunity to the telecomm companies who broke the law and partook in Bush's illegal wiretapping.
We're already there.

Yeah, only I don't see Bush trolling internet forums and blogs to find people calling him stupid or calling him a monkey.

Would Bush know how to use the internet

Here you go Red, thanks Rick. I don't like her as a Monkey but if it keeps Red happy that's cool 8)

LMAO!!! Don't lie. You know you'd still hit it!!!

[Rick]

A taste of what's to come for his presidency no doubt. The State is watching (and owning) you

Are you for real?
The Dems and Repubs just granted retroactive legal immunity to the telecomm companies who broke the law and partook in Bush's illegal wiretapping.
We're already there.

Yeah, only I don't see Bush trolling internet forums and blogs to find people calling him stupid or calling him a monkey.

Would Bush know how to use the internet

Here you go Red, thanks Rick. I don't like her as a Monkey but if it keeps Red happy that's cool

LMAO!!! Don't lie. You know you'd still hit it!!!

Here's my favorite.

[G.I.Jim]

All I did was plant a seed..... It's great to hear all of your opinions! I just wish (personally) that we had a damn decent conservative nominee to vote for. I'm so disqusted with my choices, that the ONLY reason I'm voting, is to choose the lesser of two evils.

To touch on what someone said earlier (can't recall who), but everyone does have the right to not put your hand over your heart during the National Anthem. I do believe though, that anyone who does NOT do so, should not be running for the Presidency of this nation! When I hear the National Anthem, I get goosebumps. I truly LOVE this country, and everything it (used) to stand for. I don't understand how anyone who wants to run this country would refuse to do his part to honor this country AND our National Anthem.


The lapel pin.......see my previous statements! How could someone wanting to be our president, not want to wear THE symbol of our country proudly??? If you democrats vote this man into office....it's going to absolutely destroy this country. I honestly believe so. Has Bush screwed up? HELL YES! He's my Commander In Chief, but he's done a LOT of damage the last couple of years.

I'm not pro-McCain either. I think Illegal immigrants should have to enter this country through the proper channels, just like all of our ancestors had to do to get citizenship. I don't give a DAMN how long they've lived in the US either...If they're here illegally, they should send their asses back to wherever they came from! They can THEN enter legally, and start paying some damn taxes like the rest of us! JMHO.

Carry on...

[styxman]

A taste of what's to come for his presidency no doubt. The State is watching (and owning) you

Are you for real?
The Dems and Repubs just granted retroactive legal immunity to the telecomm companies who broke the law and partook in Bush's illegal wiretapping.
We're already there.

Yeah, only I don't see Bush trolling internet forums and blogs to find people calling him stupid or calling him a monkey.

Would Bush know how to use the internet

Here you go Red, thanks Rick. I don't like her as a Monkey but if it keeps Red happy that's cool 8)

LMAO!!! Don't lie. You know you'd still hit it!!!

Sure would dude but I'd hit her harder looking like this

She'd also make a nice pie out of Bush

[RedWingFan]

A taste of what's to come for his presidency no doubt. The State is watching (and owning) you

Are you for real?
The Dems and Repubs just granted retroactive legal immunity to the telecomm companies who broke the law and partook in Bush's illegal wiretapping.
We're already there.

Yeah, only I don't see Bush trolling internet forums and blogs to find people calling him stupid or calling him a monkey.

Would Bush know how to use the internet

Here you go Red, thanks Rick. I don't like her as a Monkey but if it keeps Red happy that's cool 8)

LMAO!!! Don't lie. You know you'd still hit it!!!

Sure would dude but I'd hit her harder looking like this

She'd also make a nice pie out of Bush :lol:

Okay, this makes no sense. It must have lost something over the Atlantic. What the hell does it mean?

[Ehwmatt]

All I did was plant a seed..... It's great to hear all of your opinions! I just wish (personally) that we had a damn decent conservative nominee to vote for. I'm so disqusted with my choices, that the ONLY reason I'm voting, is to choose the lesser of two evils.

To touch on what someone said earlier (can't recall who), but everyone does have the right to not put your hand over your heart during the National Anthem. I do believe though, that anyone who does NOT do so, should not be running for the Presidency of this nation! When I hear the National Anthem, I get goosebumps. I truly LOVE this country, and everything it (used) to stand for. I don't understand how anyone who wants to run this country would refuse to do his part to honor this country AND our National Anthem.


The lapel pin.......see my previous statements! How could someone wanting to be our president, not want to wear THE symbol of our country proudly??? If you democrats vote this man into office....it's going to absolutely destroy this country. I honestly believe so. Has Bush screwed up? HELL YES! He's my Commander In Chief, but he's done a LOT of damage the last couple of years.

I'm not pro-McCain either. I think Illegal immigrants should have to enter this country through the proper channels, just like all of our ancestors had to do to get citizenship. I don't give a DAMN how long they've lived in the US either...If they're here illegally, they should send their asses back to wherever they came from! They can THEN enter legally, and start paying some damn taxes like the rest of us! JMHO.

Carry on...

Well said Jim... the presidency is just like anything else, image matters a lot, and some of the gestures Obama has made (or neglected to make) are not becoming of a presidential candidate. Well said on everything else as well.

[Saint John]

Obama...lol...get real, people. He has no chance to win...none. It's basically electorally impossible.

[classicstyxfan]

The chances of worldwide Nuclear disarmament are about the same as the chances we will reduce the national debt in our lifetime, or peace between Isreal and the rest of the Middle East........Zero, Zip, Nil. Obama says he wants to work toward that goal ? fine. As long as the other nuclear powers move towards that goal with us and this can be verified, Im all for it. complete disarmament isnt going to happen regardless of who is president.
Having a president who truly prefers peace would be a nice change of pace

Obama says he wants to reduce WASTEFUL military spending ? BRAVO !!!! We can have a strong military AND reduce wasteful spending. Assembling a non-partisan group to oversee this makes a lot of sense. Oh, and you are worried about the strength of our military ? I suppose you don't see Iraq-nam as a serious drain on our resources now, do you ? Our military is already weakened fighting an extended war that started because Junior wanted to finish what Senior couldnt......which has helped terroist groups recruit and become stronger in their hatred of us.

We could use a break from war in order to become stronger militarily, ask any Soldier on his 3rd, 4th or 5th tour of duty...I bet most would agree. Of course, McCain could solve that problem by reinstituting a draft

But I suppose you all could be right with your dire warning that America will be destroyed if Obama is elected.......after all, I was right 8 years ago about what our country would be like after a Bush presidency. ...except I thought maybe he could keep the cost of Gasoline in check, what with being an oil man and being so tight with the Saudi's.

The next President has a huge task cleaning up the domestic and foreign policy messes left behind regardless of who wins in November. I wish him, whoever he may be, lots of luck, cus he'll need it.

[conversationpc]

Some points from the "Anti-TNC"...

1. Obama is NOT the Antichrist and despite his repeated attempts to explain otherwise, Glenn Beck was NOT serious when he asked Reverend Hagee, "Odds that Obama is the Antichrist?"

2. Obama is not a Muslim. One thing Muslims don't do is deny their faith. If he was a Muslim, he would admit it. Denying one's faith in Islam is punishable by death.

3. Disarming America is a bad idea.

4. Obama won't destroy America as President. He won't be good for the country if he does what he says he will do but he won't destroy it.

Plus, none of McCain's policies will hurt me or my family, so I'm not that against McCain.

Not so fast there...McCain is for cap-and-trade. Bad idea that will only serve to drive up oil prices even further. He's also two-faced on immigration. He may say he has changed his mind but, last I checked, he still had radical open borders advocates like Juan Hernandez working for his campaign. I also don't think he's legitimately changed his mind on tax cuts.

Why were there no threads calling Bush an appeaser after recently negotiating a faustian bargain over in N. Korea?

Feel free to start one. When you start calling out your own, maybe we'll talk about this.

Just proves my point that the antichrist meme actually carries legitimacy in some conservative circles.
I didn't say that because of Beck.
I've encountered it elsewhere - at work, on other radio shows, and now here.

Legitimacy? Hardly. Only a very few, Bible-ignorant morons really believe anything like this and they hold very little, if any, sway over anything.

How do we know??? The guy refuses to wear an American flag pin. He refuses to put his hand over his heart during the pledge.

Who cares? He doesn't HAVE to wear a flag lapel pin. It's not a test of patriotism. Personally, I can't stand Obama but I think the only reason other politicians wear those things is to APPEAR patriotic rather than actually BEING patriotic.

Obama...lol...get real, people. He has no chance to win...none. It's basically electorally impossible.

Unfortunately, that's not true.