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Enigma869 wrote:Whether Favre still has something left in the tank or not (and he clearly does, after last season) isn't the point. I've lost a ton of respect for Favre. This bullshit retirement act that he's been pulling for the past 5 seasons is a fucking embarrassment to the game of football and not remotely fair to the Packers franchise (which is a GREAT organization). If Favre just came back without his annual retirement tour, I wouldn't feel this way. At this point, the guy needs fucking therapy for how desperate he seems to be for ENDLESS attention. I will forever remember Favre as a great player, who was as tough as a QB to ever play in the NFL. Unfortunately, I will also remember him as a whiny bitch, who can't seem to make a decision in his life![]()
John from Boston
Enigma869 wrote:Whether Favre still has something left in the tank or not (and he clearly does, after last season) isn't the point. I've lost a ton of respect for Favre. This bullshit retirement act that he's been pulling for the past 5 seasons is a fucking embarrassment to the game of football and not remotely fair to the Packers franchise (which is a GREAT organization). If Favre just came back without his annual retirement tour, I wouldn't feel this way. At this point, the guy needs fucking therapy for how desperate he seems to be for ENDLESS attention. I will forever remember Favre as a great player, who was as tough as a QB to ever play in the NFL. Unfortunately, I will also remember him as a whiny bitch, who can't seem to make a decision in his life![]()
John from Boston
Rhiannon wrote:RedWingFan wrote:Rhiannon wrote:RedWingFan wrote:He went out a loser and his last pass was an interception!
Blow it out your ass.
Facts ARE stubborn things, huh?
Yes, but I won't deny it. However, let me add to this by saying Farve can go out on top... of me.![]()
Enigma869 wrote:Whether Favre still has something left in the tank or not (and he clearly does, after last season) isn't the point. I've lost a ton of respect for Favre. This bullshit retirement act that he's been pulling for the past 5 seasons is a fucking embarrassment to the game of football and not remotely fair to the Packers franchise (which is a GREAT organization). If Favre just came back without his annual retirement tour, I wouldn't feel this way. At this point, the guy needs fucking therapy for how desperate he seems to be for ENDLESS attention. I will forever remember Favre as a great player, who was as tough as a QB to ever play in the NFL. Unfortunately, I will also remember him as a whiny bitch, who can't seem to make a decision in his life![]()
John from Boston
Angiekay wrote:Rhiannon wrote:Yes, but I won't deny it. However, let me add to this by saying Farve can go out on top... of me.![]()
Oh god, I think I have to go throw up now. Girl, have some self respect!!![]()
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A new golden era
Ultimately, the Packers' poor performance through the 1970s, 1980s, and early 1990s led to a shake-up in which new General Manager Ron Wolf was hired, who in turn brought on Mike Holmgren as head coach; Brett Favre as the team's new starting quarterback, and later, Reggie White on defense. Beginning with the 1992 season, the Packers had 13 non-losing seasons in a row (their worst record being 8-8 in 1999), two Super Bowl appearances, and one Super Bowl win (Super Bowl XXXI).
Since 78 wrote:
As far as Im concerned Brett has earned the right to change his mind !! This "Great franchise" was only a memory before him. Favre is the best QB I have ever seen and I might add I'm a Steelers fan since the 70s!
Enigma869 wrote:Since 78 wrote:
As far as Im concerned Brett has earned the right to change his mind !! This "Great franchise" was only a memory before him. Favre is the best QB I have ever seen and I might add I'm a Steelers fan since the 70s!
The history of the Packers was FIRMLY entrenched, long before Brett Favre ever showed up on the scene! Hell, the damn Super Bowl trophy is named after their legendary coach! Also, let's not turn Favre into something he isn't. He is the toughest SOB I've ever seen play the QB position in the NFL. That said, he isn't among the 5 greatest QB's that I've personally watched! Let us not forget that in spite of Favre's great and storied career, he has won just one championship and thrown more INT's than any QB of his generation! Also, regardless of the lone championship and records that Favre holds, it doesn't give him the right to hold an entire organization hostage each season, because he doesn't know what the hell he wants to do! Nobody would be telling Favre that he should go away if he didn't constantly talk about it for the past 5 seasons! I honestly believe the guy looks like a complete dope if he's truly coming back to the NFL! Let's hope that the next time he "retires", that he foregoes the press conference charade. At this point, it will be hard for anyone to keep a straight face at a Brett Favre "retirement" press conference!
John from Boston
Enigma869 wrote:Since 78 wrote:
As far as Im concerned Brett has earned the right to change his mind !! This "Great franchise" was only a memory before him. Favre is the best QB I have ever seen and I might add I'm a Steelers fan since the 70s!
The history of the Packers was FIRMLY entrenched, long before Brett Favre ever showed up on the scene! Hell, the damn Super Bowl trophy is named after their legendary coach! Also, let's not turn Favre into something he isn't. He is the toughest SOB I've ever seen play the QB position in the NFL. That said, he isn't among the 5 greatest QB's that I've personally watched! Let us not forget that in spite of Favre's great and storied career, he has won just one championship and thrown more INT's than any QB of his generation! Also, regardless of the lone championship and records that Favre holds, it doesn't give him the right to hold an entire organization hostage each season, because he doesn't know what the hell he wants to do! Nobody would be telling Favre that he should go away if he didn't constantly talk about it for the past 5 seasons! I honestly believe the guy looks like a complete dope if he's truly coming back to the NFL! Let's hope that the next time he "retires", that he foregoes the press conference charade. At this point, it will be hard for anyone to keep a straight face at a Brett Favre "retirement" press conference!
John from Boston
You lost Ryan Malone, Georges LaRaque, Gary Roberts, Jarkko Ruutu, and Marian Hossa.
Signing Miroslav Satan and Ruslan Fedotenko won’t make up for that. I’m glad you guys gave that soft Evgeni Malkin all that money. He is a woman.
Marc-Andre Fluery will never live up to the hype. He is average.
Pens better hope Crosby stays healthy.
The Pens will not repeat the run they had this year. Take that to the bank.
It will still be fun to watch them play the Flyers when they come to the Wachovia Center. Good rivalry.
Since 78 wrote:In the 24 seasons from 1968 to 1991, the Packers had only five seasons with a winning record (above .500), one being the shortened 1982 strike season.
As I said until Favre the "Great franchise" was a memory.
Enigma869 wrote:Since 78 wrote:In the 24 seasons from 1968 to 1991, the Packers had only five seasons with a winning record (above .500), one being the shortened 1982 strike season.
As I said until Favre the "Great franchise" was a memory.
I'm not really sure I even understand your argument , as it's beyond illogical. Listen...I fully agree with you that Brett Favre once again made the Packers relevant when he supplanted Don Majkowski as the starting QB. That said, for you to make an argument that Favre basically built the Packers is just plain stupid! Using the 24 years you chose to pick off the calendar would be a great argument, had the Packers began their history in 1968. What your argument seems to forget is that the Packers first season was in 1919, which means they had almost 50 years of existence before the year you magically picked! What you also failed to mention is that the Packers won ELEVEN championships before Favre ever got there, and one since he got there! I'm not knocking the guy. He was a great competitor and I personally loved watching the guy. I'm simply saying that you are bankrupt in football knowledge if you truly believe that Brett Favre made the Packers. He's not even the most significant guy in the history of that great franchise!
John from Boston
Angiekay wrote:
Wah, fuckin' wah, Brett
GREEN BAY, Wis. (AP) -- The Green Bay Packers' general manager and coach don't plan to grant Brett Favre's request for his release. If he does rejoin the team, they told The Associated Press, it won't be as the starting quarterback.
And Favre is unlikely to accept a backup role, GM Ted Thompson and coach Mike McCarthy acknowledged Saturday in their first public comments since the 38-year-old Favre demanded his release this week.
A trade may be the best resolution, but Thompson and McCarthy declined to discuss that possibility. Thompson said he had not received any inquiries from other teams as of Saturday morning.
"We've communicated that to Brett, that we have since moved forward," Thompson said. "At the same time, we've never said that there couldn't be some role that he might play here. But I would understand his point that he would want to play."
When asked whether that role might be as a backup or coach, Thompson said: "not a coach."
Added McCarthy: "He did ask about that, though."
Favre, who led the Packers to a Super Bowl title after the 1996 season, held a tearful news conference to announce his retirement March 6. The Packers planned to begin the season with Aaron Rodgers as the starting quarterback.
McCarthy said he and Thompson were in constant communication with Favre throughout the offseason.
"Quite frankly, it's a little gut-wrenching as an organization to go through it, and certainly for Mike and myself," Thompson said. "This stuff hurts a lot of people. I mean, it hurts. I'm not talking about physically hurting, but the sensitivity. We understand where the fans are coming from. This is a hot-button issue that surpasses anything I've ever gone through."
YoungJRNY wrote:I'm coming to Favre's defense in this.
YoungJRNY wrote: The guy is possibly the biggest gamer of his time and possibly today in the world of sports.
YoungJRNY wrote:A true and hard earned football player that we probably will not see in generations to come.
YoungJRNY wrote:The guy played a ba-zillion straight games IN A ROW..hurt, banged, and bruised.. and made that team a fierce competitor year in and year out generally on his throwing arm when some years the team was mediocre at best.
YoungJRNY wrote:Yes, he threw tons and tons of interceptions
YoungJRNY wrote: That's the type of player Favre was AND is. He's a gunslinger
YoungJRNY wrote: for a 40 year old man DAMN does he still have the strongest arm I've ever seen.
YoungJRNY wrote: It isn't about organization anymore to him.
YoungJRNY wrote: By the way, that ONE LONE championship is ONE more Title than the great DAN MARINO will ever have
YoungJRNY wrote: This man has been playing ball since he was probably 8 years old, and is possibly the only thing he knows how to do in life..to wake up one day when you still know you can play and not go to work anymore is something he could possibly never get over.
YoungJRNY wrote: It isn't easy to be a football player for the most obvious reasons.
YoungJRNY wrote: Under NFL rule, Favre is still under contract..which means he has every right to hold the team "hostage."
YoungJRNY wrote:He has sorely been their heart and sole for 16 years and the Green Bay organization knows that.
YoungJRNY wrote:As a competitor and solid football player...Favre will do it. And there's no doubt the world will be in his corner for this
classicstyxfan wrote:Hey Angie.....you may have a real dilemma on your hands, rumor has it your VIKINGS are one of the teams out there that are coveting ol' #4.......the offense they now run is comperable to what he knows, the offensive coordinator used to be his QB coach in Green Bay, and he'd be a HUGE improvement over any QB on their roster now !
Think of it.........Brett leading your team to the Super Bowl ! You might even WIN ONE ( for a change !)![]()
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Enigma869 wrote:Exactly! That's the criticism I have. He needs to consider the organization and the fans and stop being so self-centered!
Seven Wishes wrote:"Abysmal? He's the most proactive President since Clinton, and he's bringing much-needed change for the better to a nation that has been tyrannized by the worst President since Hoover."- 7 Wishes on Pres. Obama
classicstyxfan wrote: Name ONE TIME this scenario happened ! You cant, because it never did. Period. Never Happened.
classicstyxfan wrote: I cant wait for inevitable hall of fame inductions for Sterling Sharpe and Antonio Freeman
classicstyxfan wrote: both were great receivers, but neither is H.O.F. caliubur.
StocktontoMalone wrote:I think a BETTER point, and the central one is WHY the Packers won't release him. They admit Rogers is their future, but they won't let Favre go to another team. If they thought he was still viable, they'd let him start, and if they DIDN'T, they's LET HIM GO!
I'm thinnking about changing my screenname to BradytoMoss!
Michigan Girl wrote:StocktontoMalone wrote:I think a BETTER point, and the central one is WHY the Packers won't release him. They admit Rogers is their future, but they won't let Favre go to another team. If they thought he was still viable, they'd let him start, and if they DIDN'T, they's LET HIM GO!
I'm thinnking about changing my screenname to BradytoMoss!
From S&M to BM???![]()
StocktontoMalone wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:StocktontoMalone wrote:I think a BETTER point, and the central one is WHY the Packers won't release him. They admit Rogers is their future, but they won't let Favre go to another team. If they thought he was still viable, they'd let him start, and if they DIDN'T, they's LET HIM GO!
I'm thinnking about changing my screenname to BradytoMoss!
From S&M to BM???![]()
Yeah...well.......no luck with the S&M.
StocktontoMalone wrote:I think a BETTER point, and the central one is WHY the Packers won't release him. They admit Rogers is their future, but they won't let Favre go to another team. If they thought he was still viable, they'd let him start, and if they DIDN'T, they's LET HIM GO!
I'm thinnking about changing my screenname to BradytoMoss!
StocktontoMalone wrote:I think a BETTER point, and the central one is WHY the Packers won't release him. They admit Rogers is their future, but they won't let Favre go to another team. If they thought he was still viable, they'd let him start, and if they DIDN'T, they's LET HIM GO!
I'm thinnking about changing my screenname to BradytoMoss!
Loneman1 wrote:For some reason, my favorite QB Joe Montana comes to mind. Even as a kid, I hated the niner's for sitting him on the sidelines, but I also understood Joe's passion to play. But for him to retire as a damn Chief? For a young football fan that was born and raised in Northern CA, that just plain sucked.
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