New Cain Interview

[RobbieG]

Since when did you become the voice of reason...?

Arnel has made me a better person, too.

Not cool at all Donna.

[Lula]

give it a rest. i can't imagine arnel appreciating his fans speaking this way. you're a damn fool to be spouting off like this. do you own reveltions? do you recall the disc of classics included in the package? how about that set list? seems to me perry's creative stamp is all over it. try a reality check.

That's what I meant to say...

breath

[tammy]

"oh oh oh lol im just fucking a tiny piece of shit like to squeeze your neck like a chicken and you will see the real God...not your god-sp
its me that cause the hate?is it bad being a logical thinker? fuck that!"



Wow! those look like the lyrics for the making of a great song........Next line.



"Nothings as it seems but if your dreams are in your neck, spit out the hate and think the fuck up, Do rah, rah."

LOL! Good one.

[mdaemon]

hey oakly
did you ever think that if it wasnt because of Perry, your God,Arnel wouldnt have any songs to sing in his tribute Zoo band OR his new band?

Perry built a legacy that is paying Arnel's paycheck today. Show some respect .

The Zoo is not a tribute band, it is a cover band and they play songs of other artists as well. I agree with your point though that without Perry, Arnel will still be doing gigs in bars in the Philippines.

[mdaemon]

most people are damn f*cking psycho...its really annoying , its so f*cking weary listened to this people always fight for perry sake ,whereas this guy is not existing anymore! your perry is sinking! hes f*cking dead in the business..he cannt sing anymore! move on!
why not this people build a perry temple and steve perry statue by then all perrys fucking idiot fans can hug, kiss ,dance and sing with his statue..how pity and desperate this people dreaming there steve perry will come back ..what a loser!

STFU, asshole!!! Who the fuck do you think you are?!!! Learn to put a fucking sentence together before you come here telling people what to do. I doubt very seriously you want a war with the loons, fuckface!!!

IF IT WERE NOT FOR STEVE EFFIN PERRY, your boy Arnel would still be in the Phillipines working on that 'hardship' that you talk about. Arnel is a good singer in his own right, but he will NEVER EVER EVER be as good as Steve Perry.

It's people like you that cause the hate. Give it up, dickhead.

This person appears to be one of Arnel's countrymen and there are quite a few who post like this and are making it hard for Arnel to get the recognition he might deserve.

surely the long time Journey fans are not that narrow minded to judge Arnel's talent based on the actions of the retard few?

[FishinMagician]

most people are damn f*cking psycho...its really annoying , its so f*cking weary listened to this people always fight for perry sake ,whereas this guy is not existing anymore! your perry is sinking! hes f*cking dead in the business..he cannt sing anymore! move on!
why not this people build a perry temple and steve perry statue by then all perrys fucking idiot fans can hug, kiss ,dance and sing with his statue..how pity and desperate this people dreaming there steve perry will come back ..what a loser!

lol. where do u surf at?

[stevew2]

hey oakly
did you ever think that if it wasnt because of Perry, your God,Arnel wouldnt have any songs to sing in his tribute Zoo band OR his new band?

Perry built a legacy that is paying Arnel's paycheck today. Show some respect .

We can do the whole "if it wan't for" thing all day. "If it wasn't for" Herbie Herbert beliveing in a destitute singer who had long since given up on himself and was repairing turkey coops.... Get the picture? Leave this idiot alone. You're enabling him...or is that what you want?

Since when did you become the voice of reason...?

Arnel has made me a better person, too.

If he could just make you and Tito straight that would doing be something lol

[whirlwind]

most people are damn f*cking psycho...its really annoying , its so f*cking weary listened to this people always fight for perry sake ,whereas this guy is not existing anymore! your perry is sinking! hes f*cking dead in the business..he cannt sing anymore! move on!
why not this people build a perry temple and steve perry statue by then all perrys fucking idiot fans can hug, kiss ,dance and sing with his statue..how pity and desperate this people dreaming there steve perry will come back ..what a loser!

STFU, asshole!!! Who the fuck do you think you are?!!! Learn to put a fucking sentence together before you come here telling people what to do. I doubt very seriously you want a war with the loons, fuckface!!!

IF IT WERE NOT FOR STEVE EFFIN PERRY, your boy Arnel would still be in the Phillipines working on that 'hardship' that you talk about. Arnel is a good singer in his own right, but he will NEVER EVER EVER be as good as Steve Perry.

It's people like you that cause the hate. Give it up, dickhead.

This person appears to be one of Arnel's countrymen and there are quite a few who post like this and are making it hard for Arnel to get the recognition he might deserve.

surely the long time Journey fans are not that narrow minded to judge Arnel's talent based on the actions of the retard few?

I don't know. Maybe. Where Perry is concerned, I'm pretty narrow minded.

[Neo's Journey]

I didn't know that this Forum is a fuckin' War Zone , too much hatred and too many factions. Can we all just enjoy Journey's 30 years of music???? Anyone????

[donnaplease]

Since when did you become the voice of reason...?

Arnel has made me a better person, too.

Not cool at all Donna.

Dan knows I'm just bustin' on him. Chelax!

[Voyager]

JC: We sure did. Neal and I were both looking on the Internet and we knew we needed to make a change. We knew the brand was going to suffer if we didn’t. As much as [former vocalist] Jeff Scott Soto helped us out, he wasn’t the future for us. We needed to find someone who was going to take us into the next 10 years. We didn’t want a Steve Perry clone or a tribute band singer - we wanted somebody fresh.”

Sounds like an oxymoron to me. If this was the case, then why did they hire Arnel? Arnel was both a Perry clone and a tribute band singer.

Just being realistic. If they wanted something "fresh" they should have went with JSS.

[Voyager]

I didn't know that this Forum is a fuckin' War Zone , too much hatred and too many factions. Can we all just enjoy Journey's 30 years of music???? Anyone????

Hahahaha... dream on.

Here's a tip: Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

[Andrew]

most people are damn f*cking psycho...its really annoying , its so f*cking weary listened to this people always fight for perry sake ,whereas this guy is not existing anymore! your perry is sinking! hes f*cking dead in the business..he cannt sing anymore! move on!
why not this people build a perry temple and steve perry statue by then all perrys fucking idiot fans can hug, kiss ,dance and sing with his statue..how pity and desperate this people dreaming there steve perry will come back ..what a loser!

I'll put you on notice...I don't expect to read such drivel in any future posts.

[mdaemon]

JC: We sure did. Neal and I were both looking on the Internet and we knew we needed to make a change. We knew the brand was going to suffer if we didn’t. As much as [former vocalist] Jeff Scott Soto helped us out, he wasn’t the future for us. We needed to find someone who was going to take us into the next 10 years. We didn’t want a Steve Perry clone or a tribute band singer - we wanted somebody fresh.”

Sounds like an oxymoron to me. If this was the case, then why did they hire Arnel? Arnel was both a Perry clone and a tribute band singer.

Just being realistic. If they wanted something "fresh" they should have went with JSS.

One could argue that if they wanted a Perry clone, they would have hired J. Hunsicker; who does not only sound like Perry, but have a slight resemblance with him as well. I think they hired Arnel because he can sound like Perry if needed (i.e. when singing the classics), and can sound himself on the new songs.

[(Crazy)Dulce Lady]

JC: We sure did. Neal and I were both looking on the Internet and we knew we needed to make a change. We knew the brand was going to suffer if we didn’t. As much as [former vocalist] Jeff Scott Soto helped us out, he wasn’t the future for us. We needed to find someone who was going to take us into the next 10 years. We didn’t want a Steve Perry clone or a tribute band singer - we wanted somebody fresh.”

Sounds like an oxymoron to me. If this was the case, then why did they hire Arnel? Arnel was both a Perry clone and a tribute band singer.

Just being realistic. If they wanted something "fresh" they should have went with JSS.

yea, pretty much. but, AP is a cover singer, not tribute, cuz he did everyone's stuff. very well, I might add. and they didn't search youtube--they found him here. c'mon. they were watching his youtubes at the same time we were. c'mon.


JSS was the future-AP is a continuation of the past. and that's OK!!!!!!! if that's what they want, it's OK!! There's tons of peeps stuck in the past that will love it!! good for them and the band!!! everyone's happy. JSS is going on as JSS--where he was headed anyway---- where we want him anyway--before he postponed it all to help out. no not a perry, nor does he want to be, but a lifesaver and true friend none the less that has rightfully earned his place in Journey history. his vocal style, timbre, range, blah blah not withstanding.


some of us already did the 80s and are ready to move forward. no harm done. to each his own. no need to criticize, anaylyze, compromise, moralize. tell the truth maybe but no need to have a cow.

i'm purty sick o this banter. I'll be downstairs if y'all need me.

[Voyager]

JSS was the future-AP is a continuation of the past. and that's OK!!!!!!! if that's what they want, it's OK!! There's tons of peeps stuck in the past that will love it!! good for them and the band!!!

I have to agree that Neal played his cards right on this choice. The odds of making a fresh start with JSS and filling arenas, selling records, and making money would have been slim. Going with a Perry clone was a sure-thing.

I'm not knocking what they did. I just found it funny that Cain said they were not looking for a Perry clone/tribute singer, when in fact that is exactly what they were looking for.

Can't wait to see them in Saint Louis!

[Neo's Journey]

I didn't know that this Forum is a fuckin' War Zone , too much hatred and too many factions. Can we all just enjoy Journey's 30 years of music???? Anyone????

Hahahaha... dream on.

Here's a tip: Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

That's funny dude, but I'm a peaceful man. I want peace not war.


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[Clasicrockldy]

Good interview. I'm glad they'll be around 10 more years too.

I believe that statement saying that there will be around for 10 more years is a bit overly optimistic. No one knows where they will be tomorrow, next week, or hell, even a year from now. Who knows, someone might get run over by a bus.

[faithfullyjourney]

This bullshit looks orchestrated to me.

yep..looks like it and the TS is pretending to be a pinoy..nice try though!

[faithfullyjourney]

This bullshit looks orchestrated to me.

yep..looks like it and the TS is pretending to be a pinoy..nice try though!

for me: TS=The Shit!

[Greg]

One could argue that if they wanted a Perry clone, they would have hired J. Hunsicker; who does not only sound like Perry, but have a slight resemblance with him as well. I think they hired Arnel because he can sound like Perry if needed (i.e. when singing the classics), and can sound himself on the new songs.

Technically, they DID hire Jeremey Hunsicker. At least, they had started the hiring process with him and things fell through.
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[mdaemon]

One could argue that if they wanted a Perry clone, they would have hired J. Hunsicker; who does not only sound like Perry, but have a slight resemblance with him as well. I think they hired Arnel because he can sound like Perry if needed (i.e. when singing the classics), and can sound himself on the new songs.

Technically, they DID hire Jeremey Hunsicker. At least, they had started the hiring process with him and things fell through.
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Starting the hiring process is different from actually hiring. AFAIK, it fell through because as what Neal said, Jeremey is very good but he sounds too much like Perry and even has a slight resemblance to him, That to me is an indication that they do not want to just be a nostalgia act. As for Arnel sounding like Perry on the classics, I think it's just Journey giving what their fans want. If you have memories of your cherry being popped listening to a Journey song decades ago, then you want that song to sound as close as possible to the original now that you are seeing Journey again on a concert.

On the new songs however, Arnel sounds like Arnel and no one can mistake him for Perry. This, I think is what Jon is talking about wanting somebody fresh.

[kgdjpubs]

JSS was the future-AP is a continuation of the past. and that's OK!!!!!!! if that's what they want, it's OK!! There's tons of peeps stuck in the past that will love it!! good for them and the band!!!

I have to agree that Neal played his cards right on this choice. The odds of making a fresh start with JSS and filling arenas, selling records, and making money would have been slim. Going with a Perry clone was a sure-thing.

You guys are missing the bigger picture. JSS said himself that nobody cared who was singing as long as Perry wasn't there. Whether or not Journey was best to move forward or get a pure tenor to sing the songs is irrevalent. In one move, Journey just about doubled its potential audience. Arnel has just about become a symbol of Filipino pride by virtue of being hired by a very large band. Now, every Filipino who lives in the US is a Journey fan BY DEFAULT to support one of their own for making it big. Go to any of the shows, and you'll see a new audience that was never there before. The percentage will vary depending on the location, but you'll probably see some at any place. In one move, Journey went from being an American band with a small European following, to firmly entrenching itself in a very large market in Asia. This is a lot bigger than you think in the non America-centric scheme of things. Journey is now a GLOBAL band.

NOBODY outside of Perry would have brought that success. Not Augeri. Not JSS. Not Jeremey. Not anyone else that is singing in the US. Arnel brings his own audience to concerts--people that likely had no interest in ever seeing Journey before now. THAT is big.

Whether by intention or simply good luck, it was a brilliant decision--and it doesn't even matter how well he sings the catalogue. It's a new audience that they have tapped into.

[RobbieG]

JC: We sure did. Neal and I were both looking on the Internet and we knew we needed to make a change. We knew the brand was going to suffer if we didn’t. As much as [former vocalist] Jeff Scott Soto helped us out, he wasn’t the future for us. We needed to find someone who was going to take us into the next 10 years. We didn’t want a Steve Perry clone or a tribute band singer - we wanted somebody fresh.”

Sounds like an oxymoron to me. If this was the case, then why did they hire Arnel? Arnel was both a Perry clone and a tribute band singer.

Just being realistic. If they wanted something "fresh" they should have went with JSS.

Please don't take it worong. I am a jeff fan but he did not fit Journey. He was not the right fit IMHO after hearing all the boots and see him twice in 2006. Arnel voice is the Journey sound.

[RobbieG]

JC: We sure did. Neal and I were both looking on the Internet and we knew we needed to make a change. We knew the brand was going to suffer if we didn’t. As much as [former vocalist] Jeff Scott Soto helped us out, he wasn’t the future for us. We needed to find someone who was going to take us into the next 10 years. We didn’t want a Steve Perry clone or a tribute band singer - we wanted somebody fresh.”

Sounds like an oxymoron to me. If this was the case, then why did they hire Arnel? Arnel was both a Perry clone and a tribute band singer.

Just being realistic. If they wanted something "fresh" they should have went with JSS.

yea, pretty much. but, AP is a cover singer, not tribute, cuz he did everyone's stuff. very well, I might add. and they didn't search youtube--they found him here. c'mon. they were watching his youtubes at the same time we were. c'mon.


JSS was the future-AP is a continuation of the past. and that's OK!!!!!!! if that's what they want, it's OK!! There's tons of peeps stuck in the past that will love it!! good for them and the band!!! everyone's happy. JSS is going on as JSS--where he was headed anyway---- where we want him anyway--before he postponed it all to help out. no not a perry, nor does he want to be, but a lifesaver and true friend none the less that has rightfully earned his place in Journey history. his vocal style, timbre, range, blah blah not withstanding.


some of us already did the 80s and are ready to move forward. no harm done. to each his own. no need to criticize, anaylyze, compromise, moralize. tell the truth maybe but no need to have a cow.

i'm purty sick o this banter. I'll be downstairs if y'all need me.

I disagree Deb Jeff was not the future. Everyone knew that other than Neal. He finally came around to realize what everyone was saying.

[RobbieG]

One could argue that if they wanted a Perry clone, they would have hired J. Hunsicker; who does not only sound like Perry, but have a slight resemblance with him as well. I think they hired Arnel because he can sound like Perry if needed (i.e. when singing the classics), and can sound himself on the new songs.

Technically, they DID hire Jeremey Hunsicker. At least, they had started the hiring process with him and things fell through.
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Yes they technically did hire Jeremey, thing s did not fall through on the bands part. Jeremeny decide not to join, his reason was to be with his expecting wife at the time. Actually Jeremeny told hios story on one of his threads.,

[Rip Rokken]

One could argue that if they wanted a Perry clone, they would have hired J. Hunsicker; who does not only sound like Perry, but have a slight resemblance with him as well. I think they hired Arnel because he can sound like Perry if needed (i.e. when singing the classics), and can sound himself on the new songs.

Word! I was shocked when I got Revelation at how unique Arnel's voice was, and most un-Perry-like on most of the new material, while handling the classics very well. I expected new songs with someone trying to sound like Perry and instead got a very nice surprise.

[RobbieG]

JSS was the future-AP is a continuation of the past. and that's OK!!!!!!! if that's what they want, it's OK!! There's tons of peeps stuck in the past that will love it!! good for them and the band!!!

I have to agree that Neal played his cards right on this choice. The odds of making a fresh start with JSS and filling arenas, selling records, and making money would have been slim. Going with a Perry clone was a sure-thing.

Exactly right Voyager, Look at the Soul Sirkus project Neal lost money on that and to me the music was outstanding but the public was not buying it. JSS is not a draw. Just a fact. Journey played sold out shows in 2006 because they were an opening act for Def Leppard. 2/3's to 3/4 of the audience were leppard fans.

[Loneman1]

Great interview, though short. Spot on assessments from Jon. Can't say I disagree with one thing he said...especially love that he hated Batman. If it aint the show from the 60's why even bother!!! 10 more years of Journey...wow, I sure hope so!!! One of the best song writers out there. He's always been Journey's MVP.

Heard Adam West didn't want to work anymore....received the call from Robin!!!
They moved on without him!!! Get over it!!!

You know...Batman recently stated that he "never really felt like part of the Dynamic Duo".

That made me laugh much more than it should have.

[Neo's Journey]

Word! I was shocked when I got Revelation at how unique Arnel's voice was, and most un-Perry-like on most of the new material, while handling the classics very well. I expected new songs with someone trying to sound like Perry and instead got a very nice surprise.

Revelation sounds like Journey meets Survivor , IMO.