OT - Satriani sues Coldplay!!because of (La Vida)

by **Gordon from Edinburgh** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:20 am

Joe is suing Coldplay as he claims they have ripped off a track of his called If I could Fly - on first listen - it sounds blatant to me - i hope you get millions off them Joe!

by **S2M** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:26 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ofFw9DKu_I&feature=related

by **finalfight** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:28 am

Coldpay suck ass. Thieving gits.

by **Gordon from Edinburgh** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:28 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ofFw9DKu_I&feature=related

Thanks for the link my friend - what do you think???

by **Ehwmatt** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:28 am

Interesting. I'm a Satch fan but I haven't heard that track. I'll have to check it out. It wouldn't surprise me, since this Coldplay track is the only one I've heard that I actually like. Would make sense if they didn't come up with it :lol:

by **Gordon from Edinburgh** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:29 am

Ehwmatt wrote:Interesting. I'm a Satch fan but I haven't heard that track. I'll have to check it out. It wouldn't surprise me, since this Coldplay track is the only one I've heard that I actually like. Would make sense if they didn't come up with it

Its like you just got in my brain and typed out my exact sentiments. Cold Budvar just opened in your honour sir! Cheers!

by **S2M** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:33 am

Ahhhh....I see an rash of 'Check out these two song........' :lol:

and I'll start....

Enchant - Paint the Picture

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_k8DqFrq60

Rush - Xanadu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH_PPzcpeBw

by **Ehwmatt** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:35 am

Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Interesting. I'm a Satch fan but I haven't heard that track. I'll have to check it out. It wouldn't surprise me, since this Coldplay track is the only one I've heard that I actually like. Would make sense if they didn't come up with it

Its like you just got in my brain and typed out my exact sentiments. Cold Budvar just opened in your honour sir! Cheers!

Cheers man!

Damn, it sure sounds suspicious. VERY suspicious. I think it's going to be a tough case for Satch. It's a guitar melody, not a vocal melody. On top of that, any case of music plagiarism of this nature is tough to prove because of the conventions of Western music/harmony - it's not inconceivable for them to write identical melodies over a given progression. On top of that, things like unconscious influence/lifting of a song you like can easily happen in the writing process.

I'm sure any of us who have taken a stab at songwriting here know that. So many neat little riffs I've had to toss once I realize they aren't mine

by **Ehwmatt** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:36 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:Ahhhh....I see an rash of 'Check out these two song........'

and I'll start....

Enchant - Paint the Picture

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_k8DqFrq60

Rush - Xanadu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH_PPzcpeBw

Check out

Rush - Xanadu

and Dream Theater - Trial of Tears

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwgb1HD-2RU

Not as obvious on the live version, but whatever.

by **Jana** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:39 am

I'm a Coldplay fan. I believe he probably heard it and did not remember he did and the melody stayed with him in his subconscious. He's not the type to blatantly and knowingly rip off someone else. He's too arrogant and too much of an artist to do that.

by **Gordon from Edinburgh** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:43 am

[. He's too arrogant and too much of an artist to do that.[/quote]

So were Jimmy Page and Robert Plant but they stole very blatantly from - lots of black bluesmen and even Jeff Beck.

Everybody steals to some small degree tho. Look at the guitarists that came after Eddie Van Halen - so blatant they nearly destroyed that scene as there was no originality amongst them - even tho the technical ability was good.

by **S2M** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:57 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6heTXn39tTY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6heTXn39tTY&feature=related

by **Voyager** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:58 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:Rush - Xanadu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH_PPzcpeBw

Thanks! That songs kicks fucking ass!

WFT is Geddy Lee doing wearing a bathrobe on stage?

by **S2M** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:16 am

Iron Maiden - Hallowed be thy Name

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2za92DQOCw

and

Papa Roach - Last resort

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh2SVuX03h4

by **tammy** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:48 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ofFw9DKu_I&feature=related

No mistaking the similar sound there. I like Coldplay & have their other 3 CDs but not this one...wonder what's gonna happen...how do they prove anything? I've always wondered about this...how does a musician know if they heard some melody/chords somewhere other than in their head. The subconscious holds onto things.
George Harrison was sued by a popular group for a song they said he plagiarized. He was so angry that he forbid everyone to have the radio on anywhere in the house or car when he was writing music.

by **TRAGChick** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:11 am

Y'know this is the 2nd time I've read that Coldplay cribbed "Vida" from a song that came before it.

However - the 1st song was a regular pop tune, from 07, but it "sounds" a lot older.
I heard it on a radio Morning Show about 2 months ago.

Coldplay vs. Creaky Boards Song Mashup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUhFLiw6 ... re=related

by **wednesday's child** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:23 am

There's only so many chord progressions out there, but... dat's eerie, mon.

Coldplay should just make nice and settle with Satriani out of court,
bundling/discounting it with a deal to remix the two tracks together,
and Satch takes lion's share of revenue from it; plus they offer to
bring Satch in as a paid guest on their next album, if he'll deign to.

Both tracks suck major ass, but Satriani is Satriani, so he gets a pass.

JM2Pesos,
wech

by **Don** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:31 am

Just like Vanilla Ice and Ray Parker, there will be a settlement, and a confidentiality agreement (Which Huey Lewis violated and now has to pay Ray Parker after Ray Parker payed him :lol:

)

by **G.I.Jim** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:56 am

Check this one out!

Jefferson Starship- "Jane"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PwG6962 ... re=related

Aldo Nova- "Fantasy"...just skip past the 1st minute or so of bullshit! :roll:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GylirgHFqeQ

by **Saint John** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:12 am

I'm with Coldplay on this one and I hate them fuckers. Satch is being a big fuckin' baby and should shut his mouth. Not enough there to convince me.

by **Gordon from Edinburgh** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:23 am

Saint John wrote:I'm with Coldplay on this one and I hate them fuckers. Satch is being a big fuckin' baby and should shut his mouth. Not enough there to convince me.

Come off it dude - when the tracks are laid over each its even the same KEY!

by **Saint John** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:51 am

Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:
Saint John wrote:I'm with Coldplay on this one and I hate them fuckers. Satch is being a big fuckin' baby and should shut his mouth. Not enough there to convince me.

Come off it dude - when the tracks are laid over each its even the same KEY!

I heard the similarities, Gordo, but just not enough to give a fuck. :lol:

by **G.I.Jim** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:53 am

Saint John wrote:
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:
Saint John wrote:I'm with Coldplay on this one and I hate them fuckers. Satch is being a big fuckin' baby and should shut his mouth. Not enough there to convince me.

Come off it dude - when the tracks are laid over each its even the same KEY!
I heard the similarities, Gordo, but just not enough to give a fuck.

Back to Jefferson Starship! :roll:

BTW, Answer you're phone HO! :lol:

by **Gordon from Edinburgh** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:54 am

Saint John wrote:
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:
Saint John wrote:I'm with Coldplay on this one and I hate them fuckers. Satch is being a big fuckin' baby and should shut his mouth. Not enough there to convince me.

Come off it dude - when the tracks are laid over each its even the same KEY!
I heard the similarities, Gordo, but just not enough to give a fuck.

Ha Ha - like it mate.

by **Saint John** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:57 am

G.I.Jim wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:
Saint John wrote:I'm with Coldplay on this one and I hate them fuckers. Satch is being a big fuckin' baby and should shut his mouth. Not enough there to convince me.

Come off it dude - when the tracks are laid over each its even the same KEY!
I heard the similarities, Gordo, but just not enough to give a fuck.

Back to Jefferson Starship! BTW, Answer you're phone HO!

lol...I just saw that you called. I'll buzz you up tomorrow morning or afternoon.

by **Sarah** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:58 pm

I love Coldplay but Viva La Vida is a stupid song.

However, I don't think they would knowingly plagiarize someone like him for a lead single. The obscure NYC band, maybe. Not Satriani.

And it took him THIS LONG to bring out a suit? The song came out like a year ago...

by **finalfight** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:38 pm

Sarah wrote:And it took him THIS LONG to bring out a suit? The song came out like a year ago...

Maybe he has better taste in music than to listen to the turgid cr@p excreted by the likes of Chris Martin?

by **janus65** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:32 pm

Gunbot wrote:Just like Vanilla Ice and Ray Parker, there will be a settlement, and a confidentiality agreement (Which Huey Lewis violated and now has to pay Ray Parker after Ray Parker payed him )

VANILLA ICE "Ice Ice Baby" and QUEENs "Under Pressure" in which Vanilla Ice made a settlement for an undisclosed amount.

by **hoagiepete** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:45 pm

G.I.Jim wrote:Check this one out!

Jefferson Starship- "Jane"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PwG6962 ... re=related

Aldo Nova- "Fantasy"...just skip past the 1st minute or so of bullshit!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GylirgHFqeQ

I actually like the Aldo Nova album and was a huge Jeff Starship fan and I can honestly say I never put these two songs together until now. Pretty weird. At least Aldo Nova changed it up into a separate song, compared to the Coldplay BS.

by **Sarah** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:43 pm

finalfight wrote:
Sarah wrote:And it took him THIS LONG to bring out a suit? The song came out like a year ago...

Maybe he has better taste in music than to listen to the turgid cr@p excreted by the likes of Chris Martin?

He must not watch TV because it was impossible to miss the iPod commercial.

MR

OT - Satriani sues Coldplay!!because of (La Vida)

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