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Postby Maui Tom » Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:52 am

Just say...Hey pendejos!!!!!!!

great scene in Cheech and Chongs next movie when Cheech tells Chong that pendejos means "friend"... :D
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Postby S2M » Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:53 am

I've been into watching boxing since 79. And I have to tell you that either Oscar lost all ability to fight in a VERY short period of time, or he took a definite dive. My instincts tell me he just doesn't have it anymore.

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Postby Rick » Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:53 am

Maui Tom wrote:Just say...Hey pendejos!!!!!!!

great scene in Cheech and Chongs next movie when Cheech tells Chong that pendejos means "friend"... :D


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Loved that scene.
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Postby Saint John » Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:54 am

Maui Tom wrote:Just say...Hey pendejos!!!!!!!

great scene in Cheech and Chongs next movie when Cheech tells Chong that pendejos means "friend"... :D
That's a classic movie part!!! :lol:
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Postby Smoothie » Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:54 am

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Saint John wrote:systematically beat the rice and beans out


:lol: im using this phrase sometime tommorow.. funny man.. 8)


Do it in Spanish in a TexMex Restaurant, Tell the waiter if he doesn't get moving like Speedy Gonzales this is what you're gonna do to him. That will be some funny shit. :lol:
Youre all too much :lol:
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Postby Smoothie » Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:56 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:I've been into watching boxing since 79. And I have to tell you that either Oscar lost all ability to fight in a VERY short period of time, or he took a definite dive. My instincts tell me he just doesn't have it anymore.

Hey finalfight....remember this dickwad?

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He used to punch like a friggin' girl. He would punch backwards, in a kind of slapping fashion. Major nutbag.

He's a clown.
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Postby Maui Tom » Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:56 am

Saint John wrote:
Maui Tom wrote:Just say...Hey pendejos!!!!!!!

great scene in Cheech and Chongs next movie when Cheech tells Chong that pendejos means "friend"... :D
That's a classic movie part!!! :lol:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7KRVA6_0U4
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Postby finalfight » Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:03 pm

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I agree with just about everything except Calzaghe being an easy target. No way, dude.


He was in that fight. He came straight ahead and for the most part had Roy backed against the ropes or in a corner. It was completely frustrating when Calzaghe was goofing off and sticking his head through Roy's guard. You just knew if Roy's brain let him throw something back with his reflexes he would find the target but he just stayed immobile. I was literally shouting at the screen for Roy to throw anything back - even a head butt! :lol:

It was a sad end for RJJ and Calzaghe had yet another lucky escape. The man has the most padded record in boxing.
Roy's still somewhat fast, but he's completely lost his confidence and a lot like De La Hoya is afraid to pull the trigger. Calzaghe is extremely elusive and was doing what Jones used to do...when he could do it. Calzaghe is a great fighter and one extremely tough motherfucker. I've seen enough of his fights and he's gotten off of his ass more than a few times and punished his opponent. He's relentless.


He gets the job done but is far from an all time great. As for his goofing off - Roy's was always entertaining, Calzaghe's British bad boy street corner swagger was poorly implemented and in bad taste. I still maintain Calzaghe is an easy target though - his head is comically huge!
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Postby finalfight » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:39 pm

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Gunbot wrote:The PPV market is hurting though so the money won't be as big as it normally is.


Apparently this is currently on target to break all records for a live sporting event on PPV - which I was very surprised to hear.
It's set to be in about 750,000 households...nowhere near the 2 million that De La Hoya/Mayweather Jr. had.


The final numbers were not too shabby at all and well above projection.

"De La Hoya vs. Pacquiao tops all PPV events for 2008

NEW YORK (AP) -- Boxing and the economy may both be struggling, but Oscar De La Hoya and Manny Pacquiao proved the biggest fights can still create a buzz.
Pacquiao's complete domination of De La Hoya last Saturday night at the MGM Grand Garden in Las Vegas generated about 1.25 million pay-per-view buys, according to numbers released Wednesday by HBO. It's only the fourth time a non-heavyweight bout reached at least 1 million, and De La Hoya has been involved in all of them.
The pay-per-view take generated about $70 million in revenue, HBO said, making it the most successful pay-per-view event in 2008. It was helped by a four-part "24-7" reality show that gave viewers behind-the-scenes access to both fighters leading up to the bout.
"Boxing fans across America showed tremendous support for this event and we're pleased that they tuned in," Mark Taffet of HBO Pay-Per-View said.
The MGM Grand Garden was packed, with an announced attendance of just over 15,000.
Considered the top pound-for-pound boxer and a hero in his native Philippines, Pacquiao (48-3-2, 36 KOs) moved up two weight divisions to fight at welterweight. The one-sided bout was stopped after the eighth round when, with the fighter bruised and swollen, De La Hoya's corner threw in the towel."


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...cquiao.ppv.ap/
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Postby Saint John » Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:19 am

Read the same thing today, FF. Man, a Pacquiao/Mayweather fight would be absolutely huge. I think Mayweather will come out of retirement for the $$$ if Pacquiao beats Hatton. I say Manny beats them both and then buys The Phillipines. :lol: :P
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Postby RedWingFan » Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:04 pm

Saint John wrote:Read the same thing today, FF. Man, a Pacquiao/Mayweather fight would be absolutely huge. I think Mayweather will come out of retirement for the $$$ if Pacquiao beats Hatton. I say Manny beats them both and then buys The Phillipines. :lol: :P

Boxing??? People still watch that? UFC!!!!
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Postby Don » Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:20 pm

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Saint John wrote:Read the same thing today, FF. Man, a Pacquiao/Mayweather fight would be absolutely huge. I think Mayweather will come out of retirement for the $$$ if Pacquiao beats Hatton. I say Manny beats them both and then buys The Phillipines. :lol: :P

Boxing??? People still watch that? UFC!!!!

Aint that the truth. Boxing only has two big paydays left (if they happen)
Pacman/Mayweather
De La Hoya/Cesar Chavez Jr.
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Postby RedWingFan » Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:23 pm

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Saint John wrote:Read the same thing today, FF. Man, a Pacquiao/Mayweather fight would be absolutely huge. I think Mayweather will come out of retirement for the $$$ if Pacquiao beats Hatton. I say Manny beats them both and then buys The Phillipines. :lol: :P

Boxing??? People still watch that? UFC!!!!

Aint that the truth. Boxing only has two big paydays left (if they happen)
Pacman/Mayweather
De La Hoya/Cesar Chavez Jr.

Last boxing match I watched was Pernell Whittaker beat the hell out of Cesar Chavez in the Alamo Dome but the fix was already in. Complete joke!!!
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Postby finalfight » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:36 pm

UFC blows. As soon as the fights go to the ground the excitement is gone. If I wanted to see two practically naked grown men hugging each other for extended periods I would hit up Stevew2's DVD collection.

Back on topic, if it happens at all I think Mayweather vs. Pacman would happen before Manny fights Hatton, if at all. Hatton is far too dangerous an opponent to risk losing the even bigger payday to. He is also a savage body puncher which is one of Manny's few weaknesses.
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Postby ttango1 » Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:59 pm

finalfight wrote:If I wanted to see two practically naked grown men hugging each other for extended periods I would hit up Stevew2's DVD collection.

That shit right there is comic GOLD!!!

finalfight wrote:Back on topic, if it happens at all I think Mayweather vs. Pacman would happen before Manny fights Hatton, if at all. Hatton is far too dangerous an opponent to risk losing the even bigger payday to. He is also a savage body puncher which is one of Manny's few weaknesses.


Hatton-a slow brawler vs. Pacquiao-a gifted quick brawler who can box.

Slow Brawler gets his ass kicked. That's easy money.
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Postby wednesday's child » Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:34 pm

Pretty Boy ain't coming out of retirement straight to a match with Pac.
He'll probably have a tune up with some hypable, decent-money sure win like a Zab Judah rematch.
That means Pac hatton stays on course.

Bob Arum made noise about a Pac-Judah match, as a threat to force the Pac-Hatton purse to split
fairly or in Pac's favor. Hatton needs a match with Pac as much as Pac needs to fight Hatton.
Pac'll take a beating, but will probably UD or TKO Hatton in 10.

Against Money May? Hard to say, but I agree that match would make a ton of cash.
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Postby Since 78 » Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:58 pm

UFC Rules!
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Postby wednesday's child » Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:04 pm

UFC gargles Boxing's nuts.
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Paq vs. Hatton could be on!

Postby finalfight » Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:41 am

From today's Eastside Boxing news -

It Looks Like It Could Be Hatton Next For Pacquiao

Ricky Hatton17.12.08 - by James Slater - Ricky Hatton said recently he is worried a come-backing Floyd Mayweather will beat him to it when it comes to a big-fight showdown with pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao. Well, according to the latest word from top promoter Bob Arum, who handles "Pac-Man," Hatton need not be too concerned, as it looks more and more likely that the 30-year-old from Manchester will be next for the Filipino.

In an article in The Philippine Star, Arum spoke of a Pacquiao-Hatton fight. The promoter also discussed the possibility of a Pacquiao-Mayweather fight for later on in 2009.

"The latest is we are talking to the Hatton people, and I think we are moving closer," Arum said. "I think that's the fight everyone wants to see. One thing I assure you it will not be at Wembley. Manny is not afraid to fight him there. But it makes no economic sense to do it in England at four or five in the morning, at an outdoor venue with a 90-percent chance of rain."

So Hatton has a very good shot at getting one part of his wish made true, the actual getting of the fight he so badly wants; he just won't have his wish of fighting in front of a massive home country audience granted. Arum says Las Vegas is likely as the fight's venue - probably The Thomas and Mack Centre.

Arum is correct when he says Pacquiao Vs. Hatton is a fight everyone wants to see, but so too is a Pacquiao-Mayweather clash being called for. Will that happen also?

"Mayweather we would love but Mayweather is moving very, very slowly," Arum said. "If he will be available it will be September or November next year. That's a possibility, but we haven't heard anything from the Mayweather people. I think his people want to do it but he hasn't given them the go-ahead."

I must admit, I felt for sure Floyd Junior would be putting himself out there, telling anyone who would listen to him that he was going to come back and beat Pacquiao so as to re-claim his position as pound-for-pound best in the sport. Instead, we have heard from Floyd Senior, but not from the unbeaten "Money." Surely Mayweather wants this fight? Maybe he's simply taking a back-seat approach, is quietly training like a man possessed and maybe Floyd will take on the winner out of "Pac-Man" and "The Hitman." Time will tell.

However, as good as things look right now, a Pacquaio-Hatton fight is in no way a 100-percent done deal.

According to the Star article, Arum, if he's unable to push through the Hatton fight for any reason, will consider another fighter for the superstar. Once again, Zab Judah's name cropped up. However, Arum closed by saying he is "optimistic it [a Hatton fight] will be done."

Let's hope so.
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Postby stargzr210 » Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:17 pm

during manny's b-day celebration, it was reported that the next fight will be may 2nd...don't know if it's hatton or mayweather
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Postby S2M » Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:51 pm

finalfight wrote:UFC blows. As soon as the fights go to the ground the excitement is gone. If I wanted to see two practically naked grown men hugging each other for extended periods I would hit up Stevew2's DVD collection.

Back on topic, if it happens at all I think Mayweather vs. Pacman would happen before Manny fights Hatton, if at all. Hatton is far too dangerous an opponent to risk losing the even bigger payday to. He is also a savage body puncher which is one of Manny's few weaknesses.


Well I guess you've never seen Royce(Hoyce) Gracie then.....dude was the only fighter in UFC history to win 4 matches in one day.
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