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Eclipse Review 12/12/08

Postby Saint John » Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:27 pm

I drove down to Cleveland with a buddy to see Eclipse this weekend and their much heralded, and somewhat enigmatic, singer Jason Kelty. The show, in general, was fantastic. Eclipse plays all of the top 80's hits from Journey, Styx, Bon Jovi and others. "Ehwatt" and his friend Colin, and "Journey/Survivor" also attended the show.

Jason Kelty is pretty much what everyone thought he was...a fantastic singer and a seemingly even better human being. Everyone in the band seemed like really cool guys. I spoke briefly with Jason and his "speaking" voice is almost identical to Perry's from the 80's. When I told him that we came down from Chicago to see the band he looked at me like I was fucking nuts. :lol:

On to the show...they played 7 or 8 Journey songs. The sound was very good, but not great. I thought Jason's voice had a bit too much delay on it and gave it sort of an "echo" sound. It was either that or a lot of reverb. At any rate, you could hear a great voice nonetheless and he nailed every song. One thing I never seemed to see him do was really "let it go." His singing is effortless and very under control. It's obvious that the Perry-sung songs are very much in his natural range. I also thought he was a bit low in the mix and if I remember correctly the band asked for his mic to be turned up once or twice. The highlight of the night for me was Runaway by Bon Jovi. Eclipse just nailed that one and Jason's vox at the end of the song were off the chain. I saw a few jaws drop on that one! The Journey songs were all solid and the band has several good voices...Paul the bassists being one of them. He did particularly well on a Who cover.

My friend taped a good portion of the show and I hope to have some audio and/or video up sometime this week. The show was great, the venue was cool, the guys in the band were all extremely nice as were their significant others. I believe Paul said that they had only done a few shows together. Regardless, they were pretty tight and if they get any better they'll really be something to see!!! I highly recommend seeing these guys. Their music is great and they sing all of the big melodic hits of the 80's. Gonna try and get that audio/video up soon!!!
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Postby Ehwmatt » Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:34 pm

Spot on.

Paul, if you're readin out there, I don't know if it was your guys's preference for the vocal 'verb or the sound guy, but it was wayyyy too much. Definitely the biggest knock on the show - and the good news is, that doesn't even have anything to do with your guys' performance
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Postby Luvsaugeri » Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:19 pm

I was just reading through the other thread. I didn't realize they were from Ohio. I am going to check them out on 1/23. They are right down the street from me!!
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Postby Liquid_Drummer » Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:44 am

Dont ya hate it when a soundman does that shit... When I am in attendance and I hear that I cant help myself.. I go right to the booth and ask, "Why do the singers sound like they are in a cave?" Some soundmen use reverb to compensate for a lack of mixing skill..I did this at an Escape show back at the tiger in 96. Gus, the soundman mixed with earplugs in and had the treble WAY over the top.. He was cool and brought it back down.. I saw people remove napkin bits from their ears when he fixed it. That is how obvious it was..... Still, cant wait to hear some of the show...
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:47 am

Liquid_Drummer wrote:Dont ya hate it when a soundman does that shit... When I am in attendance and I hear that I cant help myself.. I go right to the booth and ask, "Why do the singers sound like they are in a cave?" Some soundmen use reverb to compensate for a lack of mixing skill........... Still, cant wait to hear some of the show...


I mean, we're not talking something just musicians or people who've tried to mix music would notice... like a little excessive reverb tail. We're talking DRENCHED to the point where everyone in the place could easily tell it was too much.
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Postby Liquid_Drummer » Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:40 am

The band probably didnt even know.... I have been playing what I thought was a great show only to find out later that something like that was screwed up the whole time... Frustrating... I wished people would have said something to us when this happened so that at least one of us could have set the sound guy straight.
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Postby Saint John » Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:07 pm

Liquid_Drummer wrote:The band probably didnt even know.... I have been playing what I thought was a great show only to find out later that something like that was screwed up the whole time... Frustrating... I wished people would have said something to us when this happened so that at least one of us could have set the sound guy straight.
That's a good point. Thanks for now making me feel like a dumbass. Fucker. :lol: :twisted:
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Re: Eclipse Review 12/12/08

Postby Deb » Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:17 pm

Saint John wrote:I drove down to Cleveland with a buddy to see Eclipse this weekend and their much heralded, and somewhat enigmatic, singer Jason Kelty. The show, in general, was fantastic. Eclipse plays all of the top 80's hits from Journey, Styx, Bon Jovi and others. "Ehwatt" and his friend Colin, and "Journey/Survivor" also attended the show.

Jason Kelty is pretty much what everyone thought he was...a fantastic singer and a seemingly even better human being. Everyone in the band seemed like really cool guys. I spoke briefly with Jason and his "speaking" voice is almost identical to Perry's from the 80's. When I told him that we came down from Chicago to see the band he looked at me like I was fucking nuts. :lol:

On to the show...they played 7 or 8 Journey songs. The sound was very good, but not great. I thought Jason's voice had a bit too much delay on it and gave it sort of an "echo" sound. It was either that or a lot of reverb. At any rate, you could hear a great voice nonetheless and he nailed every song. One thing I never seemed to see him do was really "let it go." His singing is effortless and very under control. It's obvious that the Perry-sung songs are very much in his natural range. I also thought he was a bit low in the mix and if I remember correctly the band asked for his mic to be turned up once or twice. The highlight of the night for me was Runaway by Bon Jovi. Eclipse just nailed that one and Jason's vox at the end of the song were off the chain. I saw a few jaws drop on that one! The Journey songs were all solid and the band has several good voices...Paul the bassists being one of them. He did particularly well on a Who cover.

My friend taped a good portion of the show and I hope to have some audio and/or video up sometime this week. The show was great, the venue was cool, the guys in the band were all extremely nice as were their significant others. I believe Paul said that they had only done a few shows together. Regardless, they were pretty tight and if they get any better they'll really be something to see!!! I highly recommend seeing these guys. Their music is great and they sing all of the big melodic hits of the 80's. Gonna try and get that audio/video up soon!!!


Let me know if that one gets youtubed, always been one of my faves. :)
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Re: Eclipse Review 12/12/08

Postby Saint John » Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:18 pm

Deb wrote:
Saint John wrote:I drove down to Cleveland with a buddy to see Eclipse this weekend and their much heralded, and somewhat enigmatic, singer Jason Kelty. The show, in general, was fantastic. Eclipse plays all of the top 80's hits from Journey, Styx, Bon Jovi and others. "Ehwatt" and his friend Colin, and "Journey/Survivor" also attended the show.

Jason Kelty is pretty much what everyone thought he was...a fantastic singer and a seemingly even better human being. Everyone in the band seemed like really cool guys. I spoke briefly with Jason and his "speaking" voice is almost identical to Perry's from the 80's. When I told him that we came down from Chicago to see the band he looked at me like I was fucking nuts. :lol:

On to the show...they played 7 or 8 Journey songs. The sound was very good, but not great. I thought Jason's voice had a bit too much delay on it and gave it sort of an "echo" sound. It was either that or a lot of reverb. At any rate, you could hear a great voice nonetheless and he nailed every song. One thing I never seemed to see him do was really "let it go." His singing is effortless and very under control. It's obvious that the Perry-sung songs are very much in his natural range. I also thought he was a bit low in the mix and if I remember correctly the band asked for his mic to be turned up once or twice. The highlight of the night for me was Runaway by Bon Jovi. Eclipse just nailed that one and Jason's vox at the end of the song were off the chain. I saw a few jaws drop on that one! The Journey songs were all solid and the band has several good voices...Paul the bassists being one of them. He did particularly well on a Who cover.

My friend taped a good portion of the show and I hope to have some audio and/or video up sometime this week. The show was great, the venue was cool, the guys in the band were all extremely nice as were their significant others. I believe Paul said that they had only done a few shows together. Regardless, they were pretty tight and if they get any better they'll really be something to see!!! I highly recommend seeing these guys. Their music is great and they sing all of the big melodic hits of the 80's. Gonna try and get that audio/video up soon!!!


Let me know if that one gets youtubed, always been one of my faves. :)
I sure will, Deb. Man, was it great!
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:40 pm

Yea I'm sure the verb wasn't in the band's mix
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Postby Journey/Survivor » Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:29 pm

Ehwmatt wrote:Yea I'm sure the verb wasn't in the band's mix


The thing is that I go there to see bands at least once every few weeks, and I had never noticed it to that extent before. Although, the guy who was behind the board Friday night is not the only sound guy there. There's another guy who I see there quite a bit who's behind the board lot's of times.
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Postby eclipse » Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:14 pm

Thanks for the comments, everyone. Glad that your trip was worthwhile.

You are correct in that we can't really hear house effects from the stage. I did get a good portion of the show on tape, and will youtube songs over the next couple of weeks. Fortunately, while there is more reverb than we would have liked, it could have been worse. The bigger issue was Jason's mic volume. This was our first time working with this sound guy (their other guy ran our first two shows there). I guess in his defense, we have 4 guys alternating on lead vocals, so if he is not paying really close attention (which I guess he wasn't always), that can happen. At least you can still hear him fairly well.

I will post a thread once they are up and available. I will also be adding pics to our MySpace page from our gig there last month. Hope to have those up by this weekend.

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Postby eclipse » Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:53 am

Hello all!

New pics of Jason Kelty and the rest of us are up on Eclipse's MySpace page.

http://www.myspace.com/liveeclipse

Still working on video clips. The holidays have been crazy!

Peace and Happy New Year to all!
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Postby Saint John » Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:05 am

Thanks, Paul! Get that audio up, man!!!! :lol:
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Postby Liquid_Drummer » Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:20 pm

Man, Jason hasnt aged a single day in 14 years. Good living...
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Postby Saint John » Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:25 pm

Liquid_Drummer wrote:Man, Jason hasnt aged a single day in 14 years. Good living...
I bet he still gets carded. I know he's around his mid to late 30's, but had I not known I would've guessed mid 20's.
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Postby eclipse » Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:52 am

Saint John wrote:
Liquid_Drummer wrote:Man, Jason hasnt aged a single day in 14 years. Good living...
I bet he still gets carded. I know he's around his mid to late 30's, but had I not known I would've guessed mid 20's.


Yeah, he makes ME look old. lol

Just think, when I was in Escape with him, he was 15 years YOUNGER than he is now. He really looked young!
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