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Postby Michigan Girl » Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:25 am

Carla777 wrote:zzzz.. ohh i felt sleep while i read some post here, but well i have a good mood today, y no quiero que cambie por un aweonao de primera que parece que le falta XOSE!
(Hope mister rock del ANO don't cry for my spanish words this time) :wink:
..so anyway I peffer to see arnel with a rock singer instead of a pop one, is he choose a duet,
and if this is for the fundation FOR ME way better.
Saludos!


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Postby stevew2 » Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:42 am

what did she just say?? I thought the girl sucked and so did my cat, that song is gay anyway, it got Leonard all up in it.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:18 am

tanga wrote:Going back to the duet, Lani reminds me of a she-male I met in Oahu in 85. Or was it Poggi Street in Singapore. I swear to god, she looks like him...


lol....I don't know about this, but her voice is very masculine.. :wink:
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Re: "Open Arms" Duet

Postby diezynueve69 » Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:21 pm

wildcat75 wrote:
diezynueve69 wrote:A recent guesting by AP and Lani Misalucha (who share the billing in a mini US tour scheduled early next year):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC6Uhm9yTms

I have nothing against Lani Misalucha , she's a talented singer too but i still prefer Arnel sing this alone

I think that portion has been thought of in line with the two artists' split bill come 2009. Anyway, Arnel did take on a song (DSB) alone later in the show, albeit as part of a production number (he was on at 1:25):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=879tPCa305k
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Postby SherriBerry » Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:05 pm

They really need to work on this duet before they take it Stateside, because it is not well
done. The song choice isn't really the problem. I clicked on some other YouTube links to get a
sense of Lani on other songs - she has a beautiful voice that sounds operatic when she's
simply singing notes, not words. But it's all power and no subtlety or interpretation, almost
as if the meaning of the words is irrelevant.

When they sing together, it's like two separate performances happening onstage at the same
time. Arnel is in his groove, doing his lead performance and she kicks in like she's trying to
wake him up or blow him off the stage, instead of turning it down a notch so their voices
blend. They may want to study some performers who do great duets, like Stevie Nicks and
Lindsay Buckingham or Faith Hill and Tim McGraw to get a sense of how they should interact
and harmonize. As Arnel is the lead singer of Journey, it's his song, so she does need to be
the one to synchronize with his vocals.
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Postby Carla777 » Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:44 am

SherriBerry wrote:
When they sing together, it's like two separate performances happening onstage at the same
time. Arnel is in his groove, doing his lead performance and she kicks in like she's trying to
wake him up or blow him off the stage, instead of turning it down a notch so their voices
blend.
They may want to study some performers who do great duets, like Stevie Nicks and
Lindsay Buckingham or Faith Hill and Tim McGraw to get a sense of how they should interact
and harmonize. As Arnel is the lead singer of Journey, it's his song, so she does need to be
the one to synchronize with his vocals.


oh yeahh...that's what i noticed when i saw them sing together...seem like a competition for the lady, who sing more high or loud...they need more synchronization..

I love this work http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUwF-8R7ckY (Anne Wilson with Robin Zander)
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Postby etcetera » Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:54 am

diezynueve69 wrote:
wildcat75 wrote:I have nothing against Lani Misalucha , she's a talented singer too but i still prefer Arnel sing this alone

I think that portion has been thought of in line with the two artists' split bill come 2009. Anyway, Arnel did take on a song (DSB) alone later in the show, albeit as part of a production number (he was on at 1:25):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=879tPCa305k

Incidentally, AP was a highlight of the show intro:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw8doew6Il8
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Postby Rockindeano » Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:08 am

Just watched this clip finally.

This Lani is butt assed terrible. Out of fucking key, all over the place, and her voice sounds undisciplined. Neither one of them do this song justice. I am being serious here. Hate to invoke Deb's claim to fame, but Open Arms needs to have some emotion carry it. Neither one here do that. Arnel sounds great as always, but he needs to develop some fucking emotional delivery. Put some personality into the song! Perhaps he is tired of singing someone Else's song, and not being his own perhaps allows an emotionless delivery. As for Lani, she sucks. If she is an opera singer, well then go sing opera, not pop/rock.
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Postby Jana » Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:13 am

Carla777 wrote:
SherriBerry wrote:
When they sing together, it's like two separate performances happening onstage at the same
time. Arnel is in his groove, doing his lead performance and she kicks in like she's trying to
wake him up or blow him off the stage, instead of turning it down a notch so their voices
blend.
They may want to study some performers who do great duets, like Stevie Nicks and
Lindsay Buckingham or Faith Hill and Tim McGraw to get a sense of how they should interact
and harmonize. As Arnel is the lead singer of Journey, it's his song, so she does need to be
the one to synchronize with his vocals.


oh yeahh...that's what i noticed when i saw them sing together...seem like a competition for the lady, who sing more high or loud...they need more synchronization..

I love this work http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUwF-8R7ckY (Anne Wilson with Robin Zander)


Thanks, Carla. Now that's a duet. Beautiful.
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Postby Don » Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:28 am

Jana wrote:
Carla777 wrote:
SherriBerry wrote:
When they sing together, it's like two separate performances happening onstage at the same
time. Arnel is in his groove, doing his lead performance and she kicks in like she's trying to
wake him up or blow him off the stage, instead of turning it down a notch so their voices
blend.
They may want to study some performers who do great duets, like Stevie Nicks and
Lindsay Buckingham or Faith Hill and Tim McGraw to get a sense of how they should interact
and harmonize. As Arnel is the lead singer of Journey, it's his song, so she does need to be
the one to synchronize with his vocals.


oh yeahh...that's what i noticed when i saw them sing together...seem like a competition for the lady, who sing more high or loud...they need more synchronization..

I love this work http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUwF-8R7ckY (Anne Wilson with Robin Zander)


Thanks, Carla. Now that's a duet. Beautiful.


When it comes to duets with Ann, Mike Reno is the top dog.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc40EasX ... re=related


Another great ballad by Reno. The guy is one of the most under rated vocalist out there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vGMLSfhZnA
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Postby Blueskies » Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:51 am

Rockindeano wrote:Just watched this clip finally.

This Lani is butt assed terrible. Out of fucking key, all over the place, and her voice sounds undisciplined. Neither one of them do this song justice. I am being serious here. Hate to invoke Deb's claim to fame, but Open Arms needs to have some emotion carry it. Neither one here do that. Arnel sounds great as always, but he needs to develop some fucking emotional delivery. Put some personality into the song! Perhaps he is tired of singing someone Else's song, and not being his own perhaps allows an emotionless delivery. As for Lani, she sucks. If she is an opera singer, well then go sing opera, not pop/rock.
I haven't commented on Arnels singing before but you hit the nail on the head to what I think is lacking. He's got a great voice and sings very well but it lacks emotion. Many people can sing but the ones that really stand out are the ones that bring real emotion into what they are singing. Too many singers today go for emoting and overdramatizing which comes off as acting a part and too much attention being paid to their technique rather than really feeling the words that they are singing and letting the emotion come into their voice naturally. Thats why I've only listened to Revelation twice and won't play it years from now like I have with some of Journeys music, previously. It's good but too lackluster...both the writing and the vocals...it's just ho hum,...the soul is missing, imo.
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Postby Saint John » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:14 am

I completely disagree with Deano and BS's. Perry's version is hollow, contrived and the warbling vibrato is nauseating. It's really the only Perry (Journey) ballad I've ever found empty. I hear and, more importantly, feel plenty of emotion in Arnel's version. It's his version of Faithfully I'm not crazy about...but that's my favorite ballad of all-time by Perry or anyone.
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Postby Blueskies » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:19 am

Saint John wrote:I completely disagree with Deano and BS's. Perry's version is hollow, contrived and the warbling vibrato is nauseating. It's really the only Perry (Journey) ballad I've ever found empty. I hear and, more importantly, feel plenty of emotion in Arnel's version. It's his version of Faithfully I'm not crazy about...but that's my favorite ballad of all-time by Perry or anyone.
I don't think Perry's sounds contrived at all, but you can think what you want. This performance for me is exactly those things...feels hollow and contrived....just like all of Revelations sounds to me.
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Postby Carla777 » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:22 am

Gunbot wrote:
When it comes to duets with Ann, Mike Reno is the top dog.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc40EasX ... re=related


Another great ballad by Reno. The guy is one of the most under rated vocalist out there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vGMLSfhZnA


I have to admit i kind of like this corny songs :shock: nice..
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Postby Carla777 » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:25 am

Saint John wrote:I completely disagree with Deano and BS's. Perry's version is hollow, contrived and the warbling vibrato is nauseating. It's really the only Perry (Journey) ballad I've ever found empty. I hear and, more importantly, feel plenty of emotion in Arnel's version. It's his version of Faithfully I'm not crazy about...but that's my favorite ballad of all-time by Perry or anyone.



Agree with that...i like arnel version..but is not my fav ballad altough :wink:
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Postby Saint John » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:30 am

Blueskies wrote: I don't think Perry's sounds contrived at all,
We differ in what we hear. Happens all the time. :)


Blueskies wrote: but you can think what you want.
You're fuckin' right I can.


Blueskies wrote: feels hollow and contrived....just like all of Revelations sounds to me.
It's Revelation, dumbass. :lol:
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Postby Don » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:30 am

Saint John wrote:
I don't think Perry's sounds contrived at all, [/quote]We differ in what we hear. Happens all the time. :)


Blueskies wrote: but you can think what you want.
You're fuckin' right I can.


[/quote]feels hollow and contrived....just like all of Revelations sounds to me. [/quote]It's Revelation, dumbass. :lol:[/quote]

You quote like stevew2 spells. :lol:
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Postby Saint John » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:33 am

Fuck you, Gunbot.
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Postby Don » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:34 am

Saint John wrote:Fuck you, Gunbot.


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Postby Blueskies » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:38 am

Saint John wrote:
Blueskies wrote: I don't think Perry's sounds contrived at all,
We differ in what we hear. Happens all the time. :)


Blueskies wrote: but you can think what you want.
You're fuckin' right I can.


Blueskies wrote: feels hollow and contrived....just like all of Revelations sounds to me.
It's Revelation, dumbass. :lol:

You can think what you want but it doesn't mean you are correct in your opinions and in your case as with much of your thinking, it certainly doesn't show your intelligent, dingleberrydan. :P :lol: 8)
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Postby Deb » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:45 am

Saint John wrote:I completely disagree with Deano and BS's. Perry's version is hollow, contrived and the warbling vibrato is nauseating. It's really the only Perry (Journey) ballad I've ever found empty. I hear and, more importantly, feel plenty of emotion in Arnel's version. It's his version of Faithfully I'm not crazy about...but that's my favorite ballad of all-time by Perry or anyone.


:shock: Although I'm not crazy about Open Arms, the last words I'd use to describe Perry's vocals are hollow, nauseating......you're losing it dude. :lol: Nobody emotes more than Perry, whatever he's singing he's delivering in spades. I watched that clip though and actually thought AP did show some feeling in delivering OA. Not enough for me, but there's no denying it's there.

Perfect examples of emoting IMO........different vocal tones, but all look spent by the end of the songs.......now that's delivery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0swL7jihXd4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlFVc7qDUog

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W3NKWXIiVE
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Postby Saint John » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:45 am

Blueskies wrote:but it doesn't mean you are correct in your opinions
You might want to look the word "opinion" up, Phyllis. :wink:

Blueskies wrote:it certainly doesn't show your intelligent, dingleberrydan.
Oh...the irony!!! :lol:
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Postby Michigan Girl » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:47 am

Deb wrote:
Saint John wrote:I completely disagree with Deano and BS's. Perry's version is hollow, contrived and the warbling vibrato is nauseating. It's really the only Perry (Journey) ballad I've ever found empty. I hear and, more importantly, feel plenty of emotion in Arnel's version. It's his version of Faithfully I'm not crazy about...but that's my favorite ballad of all-time by Perry or anyone.


:shock: Although I'm not crazy about Open Arms, the last words I'd use to describe Perry's vocals are hollow, nauseating......you're losing it dude. :lol: Nobody emotes more than Perry, whatever he's singing he's delivering in spades. I watched that clip though and actually thought AP did show some feeling in delivering OA. Not enough for me, but there's no denying it's there.

Perfect examples of emoting IMO........different vocal tones, but all look completely spent by the end of the songs.......now that's delivery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0swL7jihXd4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlFVc7qDUog

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W3NKWXIiVE


I just knew if I waited long enough, I could count on you!!! :wink:
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Postby Deb » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:50 am

Gunbot wrote:When it comes to duets with Ann, Mike Reno is the top dog.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc40EasX ... re=related




Not a Mike Reno fan, but love that song. Gotta love those grandious 80s ballads.
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Postby Deb » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:55 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
Deb wrote:
Saint John wrote:I completely disagree with Deano and BS's. Perry's version is hollow, contrived and the warbling vibrato is nauseating. It's really the only Perry (Journey) ballad I've ever found empty. I hear and, more importantly, feel plenty of emotion in Arnel's version. It's his version of Faithfully I'm not crazy about...but that's my favorite ballad of all-time by Perry or anyone.


:shock: Although I'm not crazy about Open Arms, the last words I'd use to describe Perry's vocals are hollow, nauseating......you're losing it dude. :lol: Nobody emotes more than Perry, whatever he's singing he's delivering in spades. I watched that clip though and actually thought AP did show some feeling in delivering OA. Not enough for me, but there's no denying it's there.

Perfect examples of emoting IMO........different vocal tones, but all look completely spent by the end of the songs.......now that's delivery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0swL7jihXd4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlFVc7qDUog

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W3NKWXIiVE


I just knew if I waited long enough, I could count on you!!! :wink:


:lol: Can always depend on me! :wink:

Gbot, don't even think about posting a pic of a depend. :lol: :P
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Postby Blueskies » Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:02 am

Saint John wrote:
Blueskies wrote:but it doesn't mean you are correct in your opinions
You might want to look the word "opinion" up, Phyllis. :wink:

Blueskies wrote:it certainly doesn't show your intelligent, dingleberrydan.
Oh...the irony!!! :lol:

Yeah, I'll do that tinman as soon as you come up with some posts that make me reconsider my opinion of you as a neanderthal. :lol:
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Postby Deb » Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:04 am

Blueskies wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Blueskies wrote:but it doesn't mean you are correct in your opinions
You might want to look the word "opinion" up, Phyllis. :wink:

Blueskies wrote:it certainly doesn't show your intelligent, dingleberrydan.
Oh...the irony!!! :lol:

Yeah, I'll do that tinman as soon as you come up with some posts that make me reconsider my opinion of you as a neanderthal. :lol:


LOL, I was going to ask....who's tinman? :wink: :lol:
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Postby Carla777 » Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:06 am

[quote="Deb"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlFVc7qDUog EL MASTRO!!!!!!!!!! that's a good song interpretation :)

Like this too...Gillan in this song still give me chills

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJCTrolF ... 1&index=46
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Postby Saint John » Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:06 am

Blueskies wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Blueskies wrote:but it doesn't mean you are correct in your opinions
You might want to look the word "opinion" up, Phyllis. :wink:

Blueskies wrote:it certainly doesn't show your intelligent, dingleberrydan.
Oh...the irony!!! :lol:

Yeah, I'll do that tinman as soon as you come up with some posts that make me reconsider my opinion of you as a neanderthal. :lol:
You'd know...if your photo is any indication of age you've been around since then.
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Postby Don » Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:07 am

Blueskies wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Blueskies wrote:but it doesn't mean you are correct in your opinions
You might want to look the word "opinion" up, Phyllis. :wink:

Blueskies wrote:it certainly doesn't show your intelligent, dingleberrydan.
Oh...the irony!!! :lol:

Yeah, I'll do that tinman as soon as you come up with some posts that make me reconsider my opinion of you as a neanderthal. :lol:


From all accounts, SJ has been an ardent supporter of Arnel's charity and has been gracious helping out people who couldn't afford decent concert tickets and and other things around here, so I think Tinman is a little bit harsh.
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