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Postby tj » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:53 pm

Rockindeano wrote:Stopped reading after the first sentence. Yeah the new political wave that has hit the country. LOL, and I especially like the comment on how the new wave has steamrolled the Constitution.

Give it a rest already Stu. Your party lost because it sucks and it fucked up.

Now I am enfuckinraged.


If you stopped reading after the first sentence, how did you know about the steamrolled the Constitution part? Perhaps you wanted to stop after the first sentence, but couldn't, knowing what was to come and it was true. :D
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Postby Rick » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:53 pm

conversationpc wrote:
Rick wrote:
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Rick wrote:This paints working class America with the same brush. It's inflammatory and irresponsible.

I could post an equally long diatribe in rebuttal, but instead, since reading this, I think I'll quit my job and live off the government. :lol:


You work? :wink: :lol:


Sometimes, in between my long but well deserved chatboard lunch breaks.


OK...I get it...You work from 1:00-5:00 after you've mentally checked in for the day. :lol:


Actually, I work 5:30 to 2:00. Except for that 30 minute lunch, I'm a veritable blur at work, I'm moving so fast. :lol: ;)
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Postby tj » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:55 pm

In the Merry Old Land of OZ, they go to work at noon, take an hour lunch and go home at 1.
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Postby artist4perry » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:55 pm

Rick wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Rick wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Rick wrote:This paints working class America with the same brush. It's inflammatory and irresponsible.

I could post an equally long diatribe in rebuttal, but instead, since reading this, I think I'll quit my job and live off the government. :lol:


You work? :wink: :lol:


Sometimes, in between my long but well deserved chatboard lunch breaks.


OK...I get it...You work from 1:00-5:00 after you've mentally checked in for the day. :lol:


Actually, I work 5:30 to 2:00. Except for that 30 minute lunch, I'm a veritable blur at work, I'm moving so fast. :lol: ;)


Blogging? :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Rick » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:56 pm

artist4perry wrote:
Rick wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Rick wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Rick wrote:This paints working class America with the same brush. It's inflammatory and irresponsible.

I could post an equally long diatribe in rebuttal, but instead, since reading this, I think I'll quit my job and live off the government. :lol:


You work? :wink: :lol:


Sometimes, in between my long but well deserved chatboard lunch breaks.


OK...I get it...You work from 1:00-5:00 after you've mentally checked in for the day. :lol:


Actually, I work 5:30 to 2:00. Except for that 30 minute lunch, I'm a veritable blur at work, I'm moving so fast. :lol: ;)


Blogging? :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I call it research. :D ;)
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Postby TRAGChick » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:57 pm

Rick wrote:
artist4perry wrote:
Rick wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Rick wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Rick wrote:This paints working class America with the same brush. It's inflammatory and irresponsible.

I could post an equally long diatribe in rebuttal, but instead, since reading this, I think I'll quit my job and live off the government. :lol:


You work? :wink: :lol:


Sometimes, in between my long but well deserved chatboard lunch breaks.


OK...I get it...You work from 1:00-5:00 after you've mentally checked in for the day. :lol:


Actually, I work 5:30 to 2:00. Except for that 30 minute lunch, I'm a veritable blur at work, I'm moving so fast. :lol: ;)


Blogging? :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I call it research. :D ;)


And GET OFF HIS LAWN! :lol:
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Postby artist4perry » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:57 pm

Rick wrote:
artist4perry wrote:
Rick wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Rick wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Rick wrote:This paints working class America with the same brush. It's inflammatory and irresponsible.

I could post an equally long diatribe in rebuttal, but instead, since reading this, I think I'll quit my job and live off the government. :lol:


You work? :wink: :lol:


Sometimes, in between my long but well deserved chatboard lunch breaks.


OK...I get it...You work from 1:00-5:00 after you've mentally checked in for the day. :lol:


Actually, I work 5:30 to 2:00. Except for that 30 minute lunch, I'm a veritable blur at work, I'm moving so fast. :lol: ;)


Blogging? :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I call it research. :D ;)


I teach art, I can't do research when I work! :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Andrew » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:57 pm

Not commenting on the article as I am too busy to read and even contemplate, but I like this bit -

RossValoryRocks wrote:start your own business and see what it takes. I have done it, and it is VERY VERY hard...it's harder work than anything you have ever done.


Just wanted to endourse this sentiment. All power to those in a similar situation.
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Postby mikemarrs » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:59 pm

my dad was a company man.first to arrive and last to leave on his shift at a twenty four hour tissue plant.he was the one who came in at 2AM when no one else would,the one worked thanksgiving,the one who got up under dangerous machinery when no one else would.i worked next door to him for a couple years and saw first hand the times he was sweating like hell while other workers were loafing around or hiding to avoid working.i told him one day he come over during his lunch break that that company was going to use him and spit him out and quit killing himself for these fuckers because they don't care.one day he called and told them he was having surgery and the next day for the first time due to traffic he was five minutes late and they fired him.well guess what my father has a bad back and just had major neck surgery and these fuckers fired him after all the times he came in when no one else would not to mention all the dangerous shit he was doing plus working 80 or 90 hour work weeks.i warned him not to wear himself out there and he did but my dad is an honorable man so he did what he thought was right.
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Postby artist4perry » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:00 pm

Andrew wrote:Not commenting on the article as I am too busy to read and even contemplate, but I like this bit -

RossValoryRocks wrote:start your own business and see what it takes. I have done it, and it is VERY VERY hard...it's harder work than anything you have ever done.


Just wanted to endourse this sentiment. All power to those in a similar situation.


I would never belittle the difficulties of starting and maintaining a buisness. I just wish some would remember what the climb was to the top, and take care not to squish the ones who worked hard as well, to make your buisness thrive. :wink:
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Postby Michigan Girl » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:02 pm

mikemarrs wrote:my dad was a company man.first to arrive and last to leave on his shift at a twenty four hour tissue plant.he was the one who came in at 2AM when no one else would,the one worked thanksgiving,the one who got up under dangerous machinery when no one else would.i worked next door to him for a couple years and saw first hand the times he was sweating like hell while other workers were loafing around or hiding to avoid working.i told him one day he come over during his lunch break that that company was going to use him and spit him out and quit killing himself for these fuckers because they don't care.one day he called and told them he was having surgery and the next day for the first time due to traffic he was five minutes late and they fired him.well guess what my father has a bad back and just had major neck surgery and these fuckers fired him after all the times he came in when no one else would not to mention all the dangerous shit he was doing plus working 80 or 90 hour work weeks.i warned him not to wear himself out there and he did but my dad is an honorable man so he did what he thought was right.


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Postby S2M » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:05 pm

Don't forget.....while it is impressive that a person builds a business from scratch. Please don't diss the average employer, without whom, you would not have the business for very long.....
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Postby conversationpc » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:07 pm

StocktontoMalone wrote:Don't forget.....while it is impressive that a person builds a business from scratch. Please don't diss the average employer, without whom, you would not have the business for very long.....


I think you mean "employee" but I get the point. Some executives think the "little" guys are replaceable and that they aren't. Wrong...Executives and even owners are replaced just about every day.
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Postby artist4perry » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:17 pm

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StocktontoMalone wrote:Don't forget.....while it is impressive that a person builds a business from scratch. Please don't diss the average employer, without whom, you would not have the business for very long.....


I think you mean "employee" but I get the point. Some executives think the "little" guys are replaceable and that they aren't. Wrong...Executives and even owners are replaced just about every day.


ConversationPC I miss your Marty Av from Young Frankenstein......... it made your comments even funnier........ :wink: :lol: :lol:
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Postby conversationpc » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:18 pm

artist4perry wrote:
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StocktontoMalone wrote:Don't forget.....while it is impressive that a person builds a business from scratch. Please don't diss the average employer, without whom, you would not have the business for very long.....


I think you mean "employee" but I get the point. Some executives think the "little" guys are replaceable and that they aren't. Wrong...Executives and even owners are replaced just about every day.


ConversationPC I miss your Marty Av from Young Frankenstein......... it made your comments even funnier........ :wink: :lol: :lol:


I was going to change it back anyway, so no better time than the present...
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Postby artist4perry » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:20 pm

conversationpc wrote:
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StocktontoMalone wrote:Don't forget.....while it is impressive that a person builds a business from scratch. Please don't diss the average employer, without whom, you would not have the business for very long.....


I think you mean "employee" but I get the point. Some executives think the "little" guys are replaceable and that they aren't. Wrong...Executives and even owners are replaced just about every day.


ConversationPC I miss your Marty Av from Young Frankenstein......... it made your comments even funnier........ :wink: :lol: :lol:


I was going to change it back anyway, so no better time than the present...

Great! That Shamwow guy is just annoying! :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby artist4perry » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:21 pm

conversationpc wrote:
artist4perry wrote:
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StocktontoMalone wrote:Don't forget.....while it is impressive that a person builds a business from scratch. Please don't diss the average employer, without whom, you would not have the business for very long.....


I think you mean "employee" but I get the point. Some executives think the "little" guys are replaceable and that they aren't. Wrong...Executives and even owners are replaced just about every day.


ConversationPC I miss your Marty Av from Young Frankenstein......... it made your comments even funnier........ :wink: :lol: :lol:


I was going to change it back anyway, so no better time than the present...

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Postby conversationpc » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:22 pm

artist4perry wrote:I was going to change it back anyway, so no better time than the present...

Great! That Shamwow guy is just annoying! :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:[/quote]

That's why I had him there...I can't believe any company would want that guy promoting their product. What an ass!
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Postby TRAGChick » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:23 pm

artist4perry wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
artist4perry wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:Don't forget.....while it is impressive that a person builds a business from scratch. Please don't diss the average employer, without whom, you would not have the business for very long.....


I think you mean "employee" but I get the point. Some executives think the "little" guys are replaceable and that they aren't. Wrong...Executives and even owners are replaced just about every day.


ConversationPC I miss your Marty Av from Young Frankenstein......... it made your comments even funnier........ :wink: :lol: :lol:


I was going to change it back anyway, so no better time than the present...

Great! That Shamwow guy is just annoying! :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Nah.

It's been PROVEN that it's really "Bill The Cat" in disguise:

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Postby conversationpc » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:24 pm

TRAGChick wrote:It's been PROVEN that it's really "Bill The Cat" in disguise:[/b]
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Postby artist4perry » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:24 pm

conversationpc wrote:
artist4perry wrote:I was going to change it back anyway, so no better time than the present...

Great! That Shamwow guy is just annoying! :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:


That's why I had him there...I can't believe any company would want that guy promoting their product. What an ass![/quote]
Marty is more classy, besides depending on your statement, it makes it even funnier to look into those big buggy eyes! Did you know I use his eyes in many of my characters in my drawings? I love wild and weird physical traits! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby artist4perry » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:29 pm

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TRAGChick wrote:It's been PROVEN that it's really "Bill The Cat" in disguise:[/b]
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:lol:

Actually I always wanted a Bill the Cat doll when they came out. Wished I had gotten one. I am a Big Bloom County Fan.

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Postby TRAGChick » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:33 pm

artist4perry wrote:Actually I always wanted a Bill the Cat doll when they came out. Wished I had gotten one. I am a Big Bloom County Fan.


Oh Good LORD ~ I LOVED them!
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artist4perry wrote:Actually I always wanted a Bill the Cat doll when they came out. Wished I had gotten one. I am a Big Bloom County Fan.


Oh Good LORD ~ I LOVED them!
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Love Billy and the Boingers............. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Postby AlteredDNA » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:57 pm

Andrew wrote:Not commenting on the article as I am too busy to read and even contemplate, but I like this bit -

RossValoryRocks wrote:start your own business and see what it takes. I have done it, and it is VERY VERY hard...it's harder work than anything you have ever done.


Just wanted to endourse this sentiment. All power to those in a similar situation.


Agree as well. I've had my own business now for just over three years. Most difficult, but at the same time most rewarding thing I've ever done.
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Re: OT: A letter to the employee...in response to Dean on Un

Postby Monker » Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:47 pm

RossValoryRocks wrote:It's quite simple.

If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, my reaction will be swift and simple. I fire you. I fire your co-workers. You can then plead with the government to pay for your mortgage, your SUV, and your child's future. Frankly, it isn't my problem any more.

Then, I will close this company down, move to another country, and retire. You see, I'm done. I'm done with a country that penalizes the productive and gives to the unproductive. My motivation to work and to provide jobs will be destroyed, and with it, will be my citizenship.

So, if you lose your job, it won't be at the hands of the economy; it will be at the hands of a political hurricane that swept through this country, steamrolled the constitution, and will have changed its landscape forever. If that happens, you can find me sitting on a beach, retired, and with no employees to worry about ...

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That 'boss' can go fuck himself. And, anybody who decided to accept a 'job' with that asshole deserves exactly what they get.
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Postby annie89509 » Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:16 pm

TRAGChick wrote:Doesn't impact me that much....I'm already unemployed.

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Postby annie89509 » Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:29 pm

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Ehwmatt wrote:I think he's addressing entry-level people more than anything. I can't tell you the amount of times I've seen the secretaries and what not in my department sitting there losing important documents, surfing the web shopping for clothes, talking on the phone, talking about the latest fad diet, and generally doing anything not resembling work. The guy is making a great point that would be much better communicated with a softer tone and better choice of words, but I understand what he's saying.


I also can't tell you the amount of times I've seen so-called executives giving other employees the shaft, backstabbing, and kissing ass to get ahead rather than just hard work. In my experience, there are about an equal percentage of hard workers, with the exception of the perpetually poor, at all levels. Each income level has its own inherent pitfalls that cause them to be less than what they should be.

The term "secretary" is archaic. They are called administrative (or executive) assistants. I can tell you without these individuals, an office (or the whole company) would come to a grinding halt. On the other hand, if it was HR's intention to fill these positions as entry level .... well, then you get what you paid for.
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Postby conversationpc » Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:13 pm

annie89509 wrote:The term "secretary" is archaic. They are called administrative (or executive) assistants. I can tell you without these individuals, an office (or the whole company) would come to a grinding halt. On the other hand, if it was HR's intention to fill these positions as entry level .... well, then you get what you paid for.


There's nothing wrong with the term "secretary" and I think it is often a better and more descriptive term. Regardless, secretaries are no less replaceable than any other employee.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:26 am

annie89509 wrote:
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Ehwmatt wrote:I think he's addressing entry-level people more than anything. I can't tell you the amount of times I've seen the secretaries and what not in my department sitting there losing important documents, surfing the web shopping for clothes, talking on the phone, talking about the latest fad diet, and generally doing anything not resembling work. The guy is making a great point that would be much better communicated with a softer tone and better choice of words, but I understand what he's saying.


I also can't tell you the amount of times I've seen so-called executives giving other employees the shaft, backstabbing, and kissing ass to get ahead rather than just hard work. In my experience, there are about an equal percentage of hard workers, with the exception of the perpetually poor, at all levels. Each income level has its own inherent pitfalls that cause them to be less than what they should be.

The term "secretary" is archaic. They are called administrative (or executive) assistants. I can tell you without these individuals, an office (or the whole company) would come to a grinding halt. On the other hand, if it was HR's intention to fill these positions as entry level .... well, then you get what you paid for.


Hate to tell you PC police, but it's not archaic at all. Maybe in your place(s) of work, but not in mine. Everybody from the secretaries themselves all the way to execs at the top use the term (and no one seems to take offense...). I would add that the ones that work in my department do, for the most part, a horrible job because they are ALLOWED to by the manager, an executive VP, so I'm not laying the blame strictly at their feet.
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