Augeri, Soto or Pineda?

[G.I.Jim]

and I've never said anything to diminish his vocal abilities (other than saying he uses too much vibrato sometimes, or that he goes a little out of pitch because of it).

Way to flip flop!

While I'm not sure jealousy played a part, I would say that discretion sure is a thing of the past. Calling someone out over a private phone conversation that may or may not have had all of the details involved is pretty bad form. Especially when what is relayed may not be accurate.

This is the deal... It was posted that Jeremey was a great songwriter having wrote/co-wrote "Never Walk Away". I've posted nothing that was personal in nature here, and all I said was that he didn't (in my opinion based on what I was told) really have input on the song other than the line "Never Walk Away". If those aren't the facts...I was going off of what I was told.

I won't post something that's on a personal level. If this get's personal, we can take it to PM. Jeremey himself has even stated that he was surprised that he got writing credit. How that was something personal, or "In bad form" for me bringing it up, I don't know.

I also posted that I like his new songs with "The Outfield's" guitarist. I'm just calling it like I see it. Sorry you disagree.

[Onestepper]

and I've never said anything to diminish his vocal abilities (other than saying he uses too much vibrato sometimes, or that he goes a little out of pitch because of it).

Way to flip flop!

While I'm not sure jealousy played a part, I would say that discretion sure is a thing of the past. Calling someone out over a private phone conversation that may or may not have had all of the details involved is pretty bad form. Especially when what is relayed may not be accurate.

This is the deal... It was posted that Jeremey was a great songwriter having wrote/co-wrote "Never Walk Away". I've posted nothing that was personal in nature here, and all I said was that he didn't (in my opinion based on what I was told) really have input on the song other than the line "Never Walk Away". If those aren't the facts...I was going off of what I was told.

I won't post something that's on a personal level. If this get's personal, we can take it to PM. Jeremey himself has even stated that he was surprised that he got writing credit. How that was something personal, or "In bad form" for me bringing it up, I don't know.

I also posted that I like his new songs with "The Outfield's" guitarist. I'm just calling it like I see it. Sorry you disagree.

I sensed that you were calling him out for not being forthright about what he said to you. If I mistook that, my apologies. I just wouldn't be putting my private conversations with anyone on a public board. But that is just me. He stated his positon on it pretty clearly as to how the thing went down. Have a good day.

[finalfight]

and I've never said anything to diminish his vocal abilities (other than saying he uses too much vibrato sometimes, or that he goes a little out of pitch because of it).

Way to flip flop!

While I'm not sure jealousy played a part, I would say that discretion sure is a thing of the past. Calling someone out over a private phone conversation that may or may not have had all of the details involved is pretty bad form. Especially when what is relayed may not be accurate.

This is the deal... It was posted that Jeremey was a great songwriter having wrote/co-wrote "Never Walk Away". I've posted nothing that was personal in nature here, and all I said was that he didn't (in my opinion based on what I was told) really have input on the song other than the line "Never Walk Away". If those aren't the facts...I was going off of what I was told.

I won't post something that's on a personal level. If this get's personal, we can take it to PM. Jeremey himself has even stated that he was surprised that he got writing credit. How that was something personal, or "In bad form" for me bringing it up, I don't know.

I also posted that I like his new songs with "The Outfield's" guitarist. I'm just calling it like I see it. Sorry you disagree.

To be fair Survivor and Foreigner pretty much wrote all your songs for you so what's with calling Jeremey out?

[Behshad]

and I've never said anything to diminish his vocal abilities (other than saying he uses too much vibrato sometimes, or that he goes a little out of pitch because of it).

Way to flip flop!

While I'm not sure jealousy played a part, I would say that discretion sure is a thing of the past. Calling someone out over a private phone conversation that may or may not have had all of the details involved is pretty bad form. Especially when what is relayed may not be accurate.

This is the deal... It was posted that Jeremey was a great songwriter having wrote/co-wrote "Never Walk Away". I've posted nothing that was personal in nature here, and all I said was that he didn't (in my opinion based on what I was told) really have input on the song other than the line "Never Walk Away". If those aren't the facts...I was going off of what I was told.

I won't post something that's on a personal level. If this get's personal, we can take it to PM. Jeremey himself has even stated that he was surprised that he got writing credit. How that was something personal, or "In bad form" for me bringing it up, I don't know.

I also posted that I like his new songs with "The Outfield's" guitarist. I'm just calling it like I see it. Sorry you disagree.

To be fair Survivor and Foreigner pretty much wrote all your songs for you so what's with calling Jeremey out?

Back off dude,, dont stirr the shit no more....
He wasnt calling Jeremey out. He just said something about NWA, that he knew about.
Youre calling Jim out just cause he isnt a songwritter? How pathetic

[Jeremey]

Hey I'm done here. I just wanted to clear the air that I certainly didn't write "one line" in a song I got publishing royalties off of. Whatever I told Jim in private was simply my way of blowing off the situation and being careful about what I said, as he had mentioned I had also told him I was the new singer of Journey or whatever I said in confidence on a public board. For a fellow "songwriter" to think that as he says "writing the hook" is not a significant part of the song, even if that IS what I told him in private is a sign of real ignorance of the songwriting process or a sign of real douchery. Hey Jim, got a "hook" I could borrow for free?

I think I've cleared things up for the most part, so I'm out on this one.



Oh, and I guess that also makes me a "liar" when I told everyone I wasn't Journey's new singer or whatever just so I could shut up and let Journey take care of things the way they wanted to as well. It's called business, and if anyone in this conversation knows more about the music business than me, I'll eat a fuckin' turd. Now lay it to rest.

[finalfight]

Back off dude,, dont stirr the shit no more....
He wasnt calling Jeremey out. He just said something about NWA, that he knew about.
Youre calling Jim out just cause he isnt a songwritter? How pathetic

Bite me. I just called it as I read it (and heard it). That's my prerogative as Bobby Brown would say.

[madsplash]

Hey I'm done here. I just wanted to clear the air that I certainly didn't write "one line" in a song I got publishing royalties off of. Whatever I told Jim in private was simply my way of blowing off the situation and being careful about what I said, as he had mentioned I had also told him I was the new singer of Journey or whatever I said in confidence on a public board. For a fellow "songwriter" to think that as he says "writing the hook" is not a significant part of the song, even if that IS what I told him in private is a sign of real ignorance of the songwriting process or a sign of real douchery. Hey Jim, got a "hook" I could borrow for free?

I think I've cleared things up for the most part, so I'm out on this one.



Oh, and I guess that also makes me a "liar" when I told everyone I wasn't Journey's new singer or whatever just so I could shut up and let Journey take care of things the way they wanted to as well. It's called business, and if anyone in this conversation knows more about the music business than me, I'll eat a fuckin' turd. Now lay it to rest.

Tell em' Jeremey! I love it.

[G.I.Jim]

Hey I'm done here. I just wanted to clear the air that I certainly didn't write "one line" in a song I got publishing royalties off of. Whatever I told Jim in private was simply my way of blowing off the situation and being careful about what I said, as he had mentioned I had also told him I was the new singer of Journey or whatever I said in confidence on a public board. For a fellow "songwriter" to think that as he says "writing the hook" is not a significant part of the song, even if that IS what I told him in private is a sign of real ignorance of the songwriting process or a sign of real douchery. Hey Jim, got a "hook" I could borrow for free?
I think I've cleared things up for the most part, so I'm out on this one.



Oh, and I guess that also makes me a "liar" when I told everyone I wasn't Journey's new singer or whatever just so I could shut up and let Journey take care of things the way they wanted to as well. It's called business, and if anyone in this conversation knows more about the music business than me, I'll eat a fuckin' turd. Now lay it to rest.

Yeah...I got a hook for you... "Kiss my ASS!" And where in this thread have I said anything about you "lying about being Journey's singer"?

Like you...I'm done here. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but if you post your music on a public forum...be ready to take criticism. Just like it's probably safe to say that FinalFight doesn't like my songwriting. He could have said it a little nicer, but if it makes him feel better by trying to belittle me, so be it. I can take criticism with a grain of salt. I try to take what people say about my stuff, and learn from it. I'm out!

[finalfight]

Hey I'm done here. I just wanted to clear the air that I certainly didn't write "one line" in a song I got publishing royalties off of. Whatever I told Jim in private was simply my way of blowing off the situation and being careful about what I said, as he had mentioned I had also told him I was the new singer of Journey or whatever I said in confidence on a public board. For a fellow "songwriter" to think that as he says "writing the hook" is not a significant part of the song, even if that IS what I told him in private is a sign of real ignorance of the songwriting process or a sign of real douchery. Hey Jim, got a "hook" I could borrow for free?

I think I've cleared things up for the most part, so I'm out on this one.



Oh, and I guess that also makes me a "liar" when I told everyone I wasn't Journey's new singer or whatever just so I could shut up and let Journey take care of things the way they wanted to as well. It's called business, and if anyone in this conversation knows more about the music business than me, I'll eat a fuckin' turd. Now lay it to rest.

Tell em' Jeremey! I love it.

For once Madsplash I am totally agreeing with you. Lets not make a habit of this though right!

[finalfight]

[Behshad]

Back off dude,, dont stirr the shit no more....
He wasnt calling Jeremey out. He just said something about NWA, that he knew about.
Youre calling Jim out just cause he isnt a songwritter? How pathetic

Bite me. I just called it as I read it (and heard it). That's my prerogative as Bobby Brown would say.

Yes but you went all the way out pointing fingers and callin out GIJIM on JEALOUSY and then mock him and his songwritting skills.

[Rhiannon]

I'm out!

Does your wife know?

[Behshad]

I'm out!

Does your wife know?

Does yours ?

[Rhiannon]

I'm out!

Does your wife know?

Does yours ?

Put down the bong, B-Baby... just say "no". I think the resin is starting to affect you. Are you and your wife coming out Saturday?

[finalfight]

I'm out!

Does your wife know?

Does yours ?

Are you and your wife coming out Saturday?

Yeah, what happened to Saint John?

[bluejeangirl76]

I'm out!

Does your wife know?

Does yours ?

Are you and your wife coming out Saturday?

Yeah, what happened to Saint John?

Ooooooh burrrrrrrn!

[Behshad]

I'm out!

Does your wife know?

Does yours ?

Are you and your wife coming out Saturday?

I know I cant come, cause hubby is workin on Vonage all weekend {if u know what I mean} Guess this means Im out too

Just switch to Verizon FIOS® and you will both be two happy campers {if you know what I mean }

[finalfight]

Sort out your quoting. I know you like putting male 'things' in your mouth but stop putting words in mine!

And by the way...You Ugly! U.G.L.Y...Ugly!

[larryfromnextdoor]

..You Ugly! U.G.L.Y...Ugly!

aint no rainbow in the sky
when you feel U.G.L.Y.

[finalfight]

..You Ugly! U.G.L.Y...Ugly!

aint no rainbow in the sky
when you feel U.G.L.Y.

[Behshad]

Please dont put words in my mouth. I only prefer my vonage man's cock in my mouth. My hubby tells me my teeth are the yellowest he has come across

No worries ma'm. Wont happen again

[artist4perry]

..You Ugly! U.G.L.Y...Ugly!

aint no rainbow in the sky
when you feel U.G.L.Y.

Makes me think of this one: U.........G............L.............Y you ain't got no alliby............you Ugly, ug, ug, ug, UGLY!

[larryfromnextdoor]

its a Bon Jovi tune..

[Blueskies]

Why couldn't you shit stirrers stay out of this? This is between Jim and Jeremey and no one else. I know what you're gonna say..if things are said publicly then we have the right to jump in...you may have it but it doesn't make it right to. This is how it is.. Both are good men. Both are forthright. Neither meant to hurt the other...something was said by one and the other remembers it differently....it happens. Neither set out to get the other. Both got defensive when accusations started getting thrown and felt the need to defend their integrity. Should it have been kept private, maybe but one didn't see the harm in speaking to what he knew and may not feel there is anything that was said that is a secret and should be hidden. Maybe he is a forthright, open and honest person who doesn't like to hide things and is used to speaking freely and openly with his friends and family. Maybe both are but just, as I said, recall the exact wording said differently. Defensiveness to their own recollections progressed this from minor to major....but that was done even more so by outsiders.

NONE of you can speak on the experience between these two. Only they know what their experience is from their own perspectives and interactions with the other and it is no one Else's place to rush to judgement and take sides and start placing blame. If you see one side more then the other or choose to believe one over the other because of personal bias for who you may be friends with or like more then you should keep your dang traps shut about it and not inflame something said between two people who really do have respect for the other and did not wish for this to get out of hand.
NO ONE CAN SAY WHAT THESE TWO PEOPLES EXPERIENCE IS OTHER THEN THEM SO EVERYONE ELSE NEEDS TO SHUT THE HELL UP AND STAY OUT OF IT AND QUITE TRYING TO ESCALATE THIS FURTHER. THIS IS NOT A WAR TO CHOOSE UP SIDES AND START GOING AFTER ONE OR THE OTHER OF THESE MEN SO EVERYONE NEEDS TO CUT THE CRAP AND LET IT GO.
I am not about to stand by and see either one of these people..both who I like and I think are good people..start being accused, ridiculed, lynched, and ostracized out of this community. NONE of you are free from making mistakes and having misunderstandings..not a single one of you is perfect ..far from it. Both of these men love music and make it...both are good people and are very talented so I hope both stay because they contribute much to this board..more so then many....and I'm not about to sit by and watch either one get ridden out of town on a rail due to what some meddling busybodies have to say! MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS AND DONT MEDDLE IN OTHERS. JUST ENJOY THE MUSIC AND THE PERSONALITIES THAT THEY BOTH BRING HERE! End of rant...let this go and have a good day.

[Behshad]

Why couldn't you shit stirrers stay out of this? This is between Jim and Jeremey and no one else. I know what you're gonna say..if things are said publicly then we have the right to jump in...you may have it but it doesn't make it right to. This is how it is.. Both are good men. Both are forthright. Neither meant to hurt the other...something was said by one and the other remembers it differently....it happens. Neither set out to get the other. Both got defensive when accusations started getting thrown and felt the need to defend their integrity. Should it have been kept private, maybe but one didn't see the harm in speaking to the what he knew and may not feel there is anything that was said that is a secret and should be hidden. Maybe he is a forthright, open and honest person who doesn't like to hide things and is used to speaking freely and openly with his friends and family. Maybe both are but just, as I said, recall the exact wording said differently. Defensiveness to their own recollections progressed this from minor to major....but that was done even more so by outsiders.

NONE of you can speak on the experience between these two. Only they know what their experience is from their own perspectives and interactions with the other and it no one else's place to rush to judgement and take sides and start placing blame. If you see one side more then the other or choose to believe one over the other because of personal bias for who you may be friends with or like more then you should keep your dang traps shut about it and not inflame something said between two people who really do have respect for the other and did not wish for this to get out of hand.
NO ONE CAN SAY WHAT THESE TWO PEOPLES EXPERIENCE IS OTHER THEN THEM SO EVERYONE ELSE NEEDS TO SHUT THE HELL UP AND STAY OUT OF IT AND QUITE TRYING TO ESCALATE THIS FURTHER. THIS IS NOT A WAR TO CHOOSE UP SIDES AND START GOING AFTER ONE OR THE OTHER OF THESE MEN SO EVERYONE NEEDS TO CUT THE CRAP AND LET IT GO. I am not about to stand by and see either one of these people..both who I like and I think are good people..start being accussed, ridiculed, lynched, and ostrasized out of this community. NONE of you are free from making mistakes and having misunderstandings..not a single one of you is perfect ..far from it. Both of these men love music and make it...both are good people and are very talented so I hope both stay because they contribute much to this board..more so then many....and I'm not about to sit by and watch either one get ridden out of town on a rail due to what some meddling busybodies have to say! MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS AND DONT MEDDLE IN OTHERS. JUST ENJOY THE MUSIC AND THE PERSONALITIES THAT THEY BOTH BRING HERE! End of rant...let this go and have a good day.

Why couldnt you stay out of this, when this was clearly between Jeremey, GI JIM, OneSteppe, FinalFight, Larry and me???

People discuss things here, so get over it.....Last I checked you were NOT a moderator of this forum, NOR the attorney representing either Jeremey or GI Jim.

[finalfight]

Please dont put words in my mouth. I only prefer my vonage man's cock in my mouth. My hubby tells me my teeth are the yellowest he has come across

No worries man. I am really sorry to have offended you

Stupid Terrorist.

I had to look up vonage and I still don't get the joke. Must be too lowbrow for me.

[Behshad]

Please dont put words in my mouth. I only prefer my vonage man's cock in my mouth. My hubby tells me my teeth are the yellowest he has come across

No worries ma'm. Wont happen again

Stupid Terrorist.

I had to look up vonage and I still don't get the joke. Must be too lowbrow for me.

damnit dude,, where you been

Who here has had some major internet problems and no posts , cause of a Vonage deal!? {NOW do you know what I mean}

[nolippin]

You don't seem to understand how a discussion board works. If someone posts here, they are making their thoughts, opinions, feelings public. Then, everyone else has an equal right to chime in whether their thoughts are complimentary or agreeable or not. If that exchange is not wanted, then they should confine their thoughts to IM.

You think people who exercise their right to comment here are shit stirrers. That's your right and your right to express...which you've done.

I think the forum already has a moderator and doesn't need forum police. That's my right to express...which I've done.

Why couldn't you shit stirrers stay out of this? This is between Jim and Jeremey and no one else. I know what you're gonna say..if things are said publicly then we have the right to jump in...you may have it but it doesn't make it right to. This is how it is.. Both are good men. Both are forthright. Neither meant to hurt the other...something was said by one and the other remembers it differently....it happens. Neither set out to get the other. Both got defensive when accusations started getting thrown and felt the need to defend their integrity. Should it have been kept private, maybe but one didn't see the harm in speaking to what he knew and may not feel there is anything that was said that is a secret and should be hidden. Maybe he is a forthright, open and honest person who doesn't like to hide things and is used to speaking freely and openly with his friends and family. Maybe both are but just, as I said, recall the exact wording said differently. Defensiveness to their own recollections progressed this from minor to major....but that was done even more so by outsiders.

NONE of you can speak on the experience between these two. Only they know what their experience is from their own perspectives and interactions with the other and it no one else's place to rush to judgement and take sides and start placing blame. If you see one side more then the other or choose to believe one over the other because of personal bias for who you may be friends with or like more then you should keep your dang traps shut about it and not inflame something said between two people who really do have respect for the other and did not wish for this to get out of hand.
NO ONE CAN SAY WHAT THESE TWO PEOPLES EXPERIENCE IS OTHER THEN THEM SO EVERYONE ELSE NEEDS TO SHUT THE HELL UP AND STAY OUT OF IT AND QUITE TRYING TO ESCALATE THIS FURTHER. THIS IS NOT A WAR TO CHOOSE UP SIDES AND START GOING AFTER ONE OR THE OTHER OF THESE MEN SO EVERYONE NEEDS TO CUT THE CRAP AND LET IT GO. I am not about to stand by and see either one of these people..both who I like and I think are good people..start being accussed, ridiculed, lynched, and ostrasized out of this community. NONE of you are free from making mistakes and having misunderstandings..not a single one of you is perfect ..far from it. Both of these men love music and make it...both are good people and are very talented so I hope both stay because they contribute much to this board..more so then many....and I'm not about to sit by and watch either one get ridden out of town on a rail due to what some meddling busybodies have to say! MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS AND DONT MEDDLE IN OTHERS. JUST ENJOY THE MUSIC AND THE PERSONALITIES THAT THEY BOTH BRING HERE! End of rant...let this go and have a good day.

[bluejeangirl76]

Please dont put words in my mouth. I only prefer my vonage man's cock in my mouth. My hubby tells me my teeth are the yellowest he has come across

No worries ma'm. Wont happen again

Stupid Terrorist.

I had to look up vonage and I still don't get the joke. Must be too lowbrow for me.

Vonage is a telephone service. Stevew switched his phone service to Vonage and it jacked up his internet.
If there's more to that joke, though, then I don't know either. I don't read every post/thread.

[finalfight]

Please dont put words in my mouth. I only prefer my vonage man's cock in my mouth. My hubby tells me my teeth are the yellowest he has come across

No worries ma'm. Wont happen again

Stupid Terrorist.

I had to look up vonage and I still don't get the joke. Must be too lowbrow for me.

damnit dude,, where you been

Who here has had some major internet problems and no posts , cause of a Vonage deal!? {NOW do you know what I mean}

I really don't. Must be a US joke right?