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Postby texafana » Wed May 13, 2009 8:12 pm

I agree, that voice, that tounge...too cocky. ooops... there may be a reason for that. :shock:

I think Danny has the better overall voice for rock, pop rock, etc. But Adam, if he can dial down that shrill shit, could very much have a Prince like vibe going. Adam will win, but he will need some serious hand holding from his handlers.
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Postby cscott » Thu May 14, 2009 1:09 am

Here's my take -

Adam - lots of stage presence and confidance. Can hit high notes, but has a thin, nasally tone. At first it he was the most innovative performer, but I have been less impressed with him as the weeks go by. Way too predictable. Let me guess - he'll dress like the rock star that he isn't, (at least not yet.) utilize some lighting effects, and whatever song he is singing about halfway through it he'll show everybody that he can hit the high notes. Oh yeah, and if the song choice or theme of the week is contrary to that, he'll re-arrange the song to give him the opportunity to scream regardless if it is appropriate for the song or not. His version of U2 last night was an abomination. Unfortunately, the judges cut him way too much slack and never call him on his offenses. Worse yet, they proclaim him the best singer when he clearly is not, and the winner rather than letting the public decide. BTW - Vocal range is more than just singing high notes. It also encompasses using different textures, emoting, and yes, low note as well. Adam posseses none of that.

Danny - Great voice, nice tone, but relies on using the blusey/gravelly part of his voice too much - almost like shouting. Not a bad thing for a gospel or blues artist, but not as usable if you are going to be a pop artist.

Kris - Very nice voice, perfect for pop music ala Coldplay. Overall the most talented musician of the bunch. Competent on keyboards and guitar and arranging - makes me think he would also be capable of being one of the better composers as well. Lacks personality so he has become underrated but overall I think the most deserving one left.

Allison - By far the best singer. She handled every category authentically and sounded great in the precess. She should have outlasted Danny and if the competetion were truly based only on singing ablilty, whe should have been the winner. Given her level of talent for her age, in a couple of years she will be scary good.
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Postby lights1961 » Thu May 14, 2009 1:49 am

ADAM did great on ONE... and Crying... made those songs his own... every week he has game...
which is what the judges have always said makes a great artist better than everyone else... be on every week and make the songs your own...
If Adam is not in final two.. .who will care??? The other two singers are not memorable... The ratings will fall big time. Allison got out too early
but she will do fine with out the idol contract... Adam would also do fine with out the contract... the other two??? maybe, maybe not...





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Postby Voyager » Thu May 14, 2009 3:30 am

texafana wrote:I agree, that voice, that tounge...too cocky. ooops... there may be a reason for that. :shock:

I think Danny has the better overall voice for rock, pop rock, etc. But Adam, if he can dial down that shrill shit, could very much have a Prince like vibe going. Adam will win, but he will need some serious hand holding from his handlers.


Nahh, Adam is the rocker and Danny is the one with the cocky oversized ego. I saw it again last night when the judges were praising his second song.

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Postby madsplash » Thu May 14, 2009 3:33 am

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texafana wrote:I agree, that voice, that tounge...too cocky. ooops... there may be a reason for that. :shock:

I think Danny has the better overall voice for rock, pop rock, etc. But Adam, if he can dial down that shrill shit, could very much have a Prince like vibe going. Adam will win, but he will need some serious hand holding from his handlers.


Nahh, Adam is the rocker and Danny is the one with the cocky oversized ego. I saw it again last night when the judges were praising his second song.

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Absolutely. Hell, Adam was the one that said how great the other guys did. While Gokey was talking about his horrible dancing. I'd rather see Adam stick his tongue out than to watch Danny try to dance.

Adam is the best singer and has FAR, FAR, FAR more marketing appeal than the other 2.
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Postby no1uknow » Thu May 14, 2009 3:37 am

Amen!!!!!!!!
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Postby BobbyinTN » Thu May 14, 2009 4:47 am

Adam is CONSISTENTLY good. He can get a little shrill, but "Whole Lotta Love" was amazing. His two songs last night were pretty incredible too. I liked that he did "Crying" and the U2 song was really good, but like someone else said, I'm just not a huge U2 fan.

I think Danny has a good voice, but he screams WAY too much and sometimes the "gravel" in his voice sounds more like a gargle.

Kris is a really good all around artist.

For me, the winner has to be Adam. I do think he's the most original artist American Idol has ever had and the best male contestant in the history of AI.
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Postby Luvsaugeri » Thu May 14, 2009 4:58 am

cscott wrote:Here's my take -

Adam - lots of stage presence and confidance. Can hit high notes, but has a thin, nasally tone. At first it he was the most innovative performer, but I have been less impressed with him as the weeks go by. Way too predictable. Let me guess - he'll dress like the rock star that he isn't, (at least not yet.) utilize some lighting effects, and whatever song he is singing about halfway through it he'll show everybody that he can hit the high notes. Oh yeah, and if the song choice or theme of the week is contrary to that, he'll re-arrange the song to give him the opportunity to scream regardless if it is appropriate for the song or not. His version of U2 last night was an abomination. Unfortunately, the judges cut him way too much slack and never call him on his offenses. Worse yet, they proclaim him the best singer when he clearly is not, and the winner rather than letting the public decide. BTW - Vocal range is more than just singing high notes. It also encompasses using different textures, emoting, and yes, low note as well. Adam posseses none of that.


I agree. I LOVED him at first. But I've been less and less impressed as the weeks go by.
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Postby no1uknow » Thu May 14, 2009 5:01 am

Vocal range is more than just singing high notes. (which Adam does)

It also encompasses using different textures, emoting, and yes, low note as well. Adam DOES possess that.
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Postby Ftloperry » Thu May 14, 2009 5:24 am

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madsplash wrote:Adam's still the best singer, by FAR. Love him or hate him, Simon is right 98% of the time.

Who'll win? Who knows about the public? Some of them think that Kanye West can sing. :roll: What a joke.


In last weeks tv guide Simon said this was his last year on idol his contract runs out in 2010 and he also said it would be Danny this year. We'll see if Simon is right on this one.


That's funny because on Oprah yesterday he said it would be Adam.


Odd I watched Oprah yesterday and it was all about saying good bye to Doctor OZ. He's getting his own tv show. :?:
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Postby Since 78 » Thu May 14, 2009 5:40 am

Adam sucked on both songs last night, the screaming is really getting old.

Danny was good on the first song, but I Loved the second song. Wow!

Kris really impressed me, but Alison should still be there.
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Postby Barb » Thu May 14, 2009 5:59 am

Ftloperry wrote:
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Ftloperry wrote:
madsplash wrote:Adam's still the best singer, by FAR. Love him or hate him, Simon is right 98% of the time.

Who'll win? Who knows about the public? Some of them think that Kanye West can sing. :roll: What a joke.


In last weeks tv guide Simon said this was his last year on idol his contract runs out in 2010 and he also said it would be Danny this year. We'll see if Simon is right on this one.


That's funny because on Oprah yesterday he said it would be Adam.


Odd I watched Oprah yesterday and it was all about saying good bye to Doctor OZ. He's getting his own tv show. :?:


Simon was on Monday's episode.

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Postby madsplash » Thu May 14, 2009 6:37 am

Since 78 wrote:Adam sucked on both songs last night, the screaming is really getting old.

Danny was good on the first song, but I Loved the second song. Wow!

Kris really impressed me, but Alison should still be there.


Like the way SP and Freddie Mercury scream? :roll: If you can't see the talent of his voice, it's OK. Milliions of others do, along with Randy and Simon and we all know that THEY don't know anything.........right? :roll: :roll:

Danny is so fake acting and talk about screaming? He gravel screams more than Adam, it's just not as good, so you don't notice it.

Kris is a nice kid and a karoke singer, at best.
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Re: OT: Adam Lambert on Idol

Postby lights1961 » Thu May 14, 2009 6:43 am

Voyager wrote:I think this guy is a kickass singer/performer, and will probably have a great future in the recording industry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03qxTEth2AY

Every once in a while Idol comes out with a rocker. This dude has a fighting chance to win for sure.

I hope the video doesn't get pulled by Fox. Here's another one just in case:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_mqbc9COK8

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thanks man...just love the way he can just sit there an play that guitar... like no big deal...
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Re: OT: Adam Lambert on Idol

Postby Voyager » Thu May 14, 2009 7:14 am

lights1961 wrote:
Voyager wrote:I think this guy is a kickass singer/performer, and will probably have a great future in the recording industry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03qxTEth2AY

Every once in a while Idol comes out with a rocker. This dude has a fighting chance to win for sure.

I hope the video doesn't get pulled by Fox. Here's another one just in case:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_mqbc9COK8

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thanks man...just love the way he can just sit there an play that guitar... like no big deal...


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Postby stargzr210 » Thu May 14, 2009 10:46 am

http://perezhilton.com/2009-05-13-idol- ... the-gayken


clay wants to have a duet with adam?
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Postby Deb » Thu May 14, 2009 12:28 pm

LLL wrote:Well it seems like some of you were partially correct - Perry is performing on AI. KATY PERRY! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Loved how she had Adam Lambert sequined on the back of her cape. :lol:
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Postby Voyager » Thu May 14, 2009 12:30 pm

Gokey went back to Muskogee.

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Postby Voyager » Thu May 14, 2009 12:32 pm

stargzr210 wrote:http://perezhilton.com/2009-05-13-idol-cockblocks-the-gayken


clay wants to have a duet with adam?


Love the URL - "Idol Cockblocks the Gayken" - LOL!

Nothing against gays but that is funny.

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Postby Deb » Thu May 14, 2009 12:34 pm

Voyager wrote:Gokey went back to Muskogee.

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Yep, still say it should have been Gokey and Lambert the last 2 though.
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Postby G.I.Jim » Thu May 14, 2009 12:49 pm

That's it...I'm DONE with Idol. :? Okay not really, but I guess that fucking shrieker is going to win. DAMN!!! I'm sorry, but I think Danny should definitely won this competition. These fucking teenagers ruin this show, and always skew this shit, and it agravates the hell out of me! Okay...I'm done bitching for tonight. I just can't believe Kris won over Danny. :roll:

Wait...Okay, I'm NOT done. WTF is up with Perry coming out there with Adam sewn into her fucking costume??? This is a competition, and it I were one of the other contestants I'd raise HELL about it! They've been trying to push the fucker into the spotlight since day one, and this shit was just over the top. I really think this will be my last season of Idol. Fuck it all, I'm going to bed now. :x
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Postby squirt1 » Thu May 14, 2009 12:52 pm

At this point it does NOT matter who wins. They will both have careers and maybe even Gokey and Allison. Most AI's disappear after a few yrs and lose their record contracts as soon as the AI celebrity cools. I think Adam will have a huge career with many songwriters bringing him their work.
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Postby WIX » Thu May 14, 2009 12:54 pm

G.I.Jim wrote:That's it...I'm DONE with Idol. :? Okay not really, but I guess that fucking shrieker is going to win. DAMN!!! I'm sorry, but I think Danny should definitely won this competition. These fucking teenagers ruin this show, and always skew this shit, and it agravates the hell out of me! Okay...I'm done bitching for tonight. I just can't believe Kris won over Danny. :roll:

Wait...Okay, I'm NOT done. WTF is up with Perry coming out there with Adam sewn into her fucking costume??? This is a competition, and it I were one of the other contestants I'd raise HELL about it! They've been trying to push the fucker into the spotlight since day one, and this shit was just over the top. I really think this will be my last season of Idol. Fuck it all, I'm going to bed now. :x




because he is that much better than the rest, it was a joke that they have to wait until the end for adam to win!!! :lol:
They should have handed it to him after week two!

chris ended up better than danny in the end, danny is one dimensional!!

Danny was my first pick and adam my second at the beginning but danny dropped and adam went to the top of my list!
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Postby nutz4Neal » Thu May 14, 2009 12:59 pm

Adam is good..way good; but he's too polished. His Tyler last night was not the raw ST that's we're used to..IMHO, he did not nail that song.

However, Kris brings IT every week..he's new and refreshing.

Sorry to see Danny go. :(

Next week will be FUN! :D
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Postby G.I.Jim » Thu May 14, 2009 1:00 pm

WIX wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:That's it...I'm DONE with Idol. :? Okay not really, but I guess that fucking shrieker is going to win. DAMN!!! I'm sorry, but I think Danny should definitely won this competition. These fucking teenagers ruin this show, and always skew this shit, and it agravates the hell out of me! Okay...I'm done bitching for tonight. I just can't believe Kris won over Danny. :roll:

Wait...Okay, I'm NOT done. WTF is up with Perry coming out there with Adam sewn into her fucking costume??? This is a competition, and it I were one of the other contestants I'd raise HELL about it! They've been trying to push the fucker into the spotlight since day one, and this shit was just over the top. I really think this will be my last season of Idol. Fuck it all, I'm going to bed now. :x




because he is that much better than the rest, it was a joke that they have to wait until the end for adam to win!!! :lol:
They should have handed it to him after week two!

chris ended up better than danny in the end, danny is one dimensional!!

Danny was my first pick and adam my second at the beginning but danny dropped and adam went to the top of my list!


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Postby Deb » Thu May 14, 2009 1:03 pm

nutz4Neal wrote:Adam is good..way good; but he's too polished. His Tyler last night was not the raw ST that's we're used to..IMHO, he did not nail that song.

However, Kris brings IT every week..he's new and refreshing.

Sorry to see Danny go. :(

Next week will be FUN! :D


Ya, I guess it's a two parter..........tuesday and wednesday. That's why I never watched it last year......hate committing to my tv. :lol: Damn it, season finale of 24 monday, now AI finale tues/wed. :lol:
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Postby Luvsaugeri » Thu May 14, 2009 2:14 pm

G.I.Jim wrote:That's it...I'm DONE with Idol. :? Okay not really, but I guess that fucking shrieker is going to win. DAMN!!! I'm sorry, but I think Danny should definitely won this competition. These fucking teenagers ruin this show, and always skew this shit, and it agravates the hell out of me! Okay...I'm done bitching for tonight. I just can't believe Kris won over Danny. :roll:

Wait...Okay, I'm NOT done. WTF is up with Perry coming out there with Adam sewn into her fucking costume??? This is a competition, and it I were one of the other contestants I'd raise HELL about it! They've been trying to push the fucker into the spotlight since day one, and this shit was just over the top. I really think this will be my last season of Idol. Fuck it all, I'm going to bed now. :x


OMG I agree with everything you just said. I said the same thing about the cape!! What a crock!!

I want Kris to win now just to piss all these people off!!
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Postby Voyager » Thu May 14, 2009 3:14 pm

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That was awesome. Katy is hot.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwJvjO68LXk

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Postby Rocker Chic » Thu May 14, 2009 11:25 pm

Didn't I tell you that the teenagers have WAY too much time on their hands??? :roll: This is exactly why I have been thrilled that Lost was up against the results show each week, because I'd hate to sit through an hour of crap just to end up pissed off in the end. :evil:

I predict it will be Kris winning this one, just because I identify with his style the *least*, and that's been the way it has gone from the second year onward. :? The only one that won that I thought should win was Kelly Clarkson.

I do believe this is the last year that I will get sucked into this nonsense. :!:

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Postby Barb » Thu May 14, 2009 11:59 pm

One thing that I really noticed during the visits to their hometowns was that both Kris and Adam are really nice people. I will be happy if either one of them wins because I know they will both be successful no matter the outcome.

I don't know what it was about Danny, but he really turned me off -- cocky or something. Trying to cover Dream On just seemed to be the height of arrogance to me.
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