Vladan wrote:Jana wrote:Vladan wrote:Gideon wrote:Making bullshit claims and declaring victory whilst retreating?
Vladan's a graduate of the Melodic Rock Academy of Jackasses, under Headmaster Rockindeano.
That's what happens when you are honest around here, as you can see, I've already got PM's about from other members saying be careful what you say around here because you can't speak your mind without being shot down.
Jackass? that's very interesting, those are my thoughts on the current state of Journey, I am hardly a jackass, I am actually a pretty nice guy and will do anything for people, and friends. We are discussing music here, and the band members, that's what fans do - like and dislike, I just happen to dislike Arnel's stage ability's, But he's a great singer, just yells too much though.
Whine, whine, whine from a certain peanut gallery. Please, everybody speaks their mind. But some don't like the responses they get and play martyr. I've been on here almost a year. I try to be respectful of everybody's favorite, but I speak my mind, for the most part, and I've been taken down plenty of times in the poliical thread, or re Neal, re Arnel, re Journey, re everything. I don't play the martyr. If you can't take the comments, why post? I don't whine about it. I don't expect everybody to agree with me on this perry/sa/jss/ap/neal hating/neal loving/journey hating/journey loving forum, and if I did, I shouldn't be here.

Yes, I see - I guess your opinion may change after a few years Jana... give it a couple more months, years posting here

But yes, I agree with you Jana.
MR is much better than most other places, probably the best forum around for discussing Journey. I can't the say the same for "the other forum", but this one is pretty good. Yes, I know what you saying, but something I do not do around here, and it's something I learned in real life and I practice here.
If somebody doesn't like something about a band or a movie or whatever? you know "who am I to say otherwise", like that's their opinion, let it be there's. It should be said once, and heard, then not discussed (of course we all do it) it's very hard not too. When a MR members says "hey Steve Perry sounded awful then, or looked silly then" I just sure, he probably did, and move on.
This discussion should of never gone this long, it's been dead for days in my honest opinion, I said my originally piece, I should of just left it there. Next time I will know better, not to come back, and wait for people to sit there and dissect my posts and call me on spelling errors, and insult me personally.
Thanks.
Vladen, you made a very provocative statement: Check out this one-minute clip, turn off the volume, what a shitty frontman (paraphrasing)

And you don't expect a reaction out of that? Come on. If you had made a statement that as a frontman Arnel doesn't do it for you since he's been with them, fine. But you can't tell me you expected no reaction from what you said, which I think was pretty unfair myself. And, truthfully, I didn't think the replies you got back were bad. You made a remark regarding Arnel and mentioned language in there and you got dissed back re language. That's MR. Zingers, sarcastic, humor. Nobody called you names.
And maybe you move on if somebody said Steve Perry sounded awful, but you're one of the few that would. There would be a big brouhaha going on, and has gone on before. If a thread was started, and someone said ,isolate this one part of the video for one minute of Perry, and turn down the sound. Isn't he a crappy frontman? Holy Hell would break loose on here. And I wouldn't fault anyone from coming into that thread calling the person out on that remark.
I must be sadomasochistic, but if I make provocative statements regarding a hot button issue and get replies back against what I said, nicely or not nicely, I accept it or debate back, but I don't whine. Though, I have been known to take my toys and go home for a while.
