jrnyman28 wrote:kgdjpubs wrote:Red13JoePa wrote:Just imparting a personal opinion of course.
But outside of boards like this you'd be surprised how few people think perry trods water.
DeYoung and Cronin are arguably even better.
Sammy Hagar.
As far as actual singers go, you would probably be amazed how many cite Perry as an influence. I've heard more singers reference Perry than almost anyone else of recent times.
From a technical standpoint, Perry was very gifted, but then-so, so were quite a few others. Freddie Mercury, Dennis DeYoung, John Farnham, Jimi Jamison, Freddy Curci, etc. The list goes on and on. Plenty of singers had a gifted, natural singing voice. Clarity of voice and range were matched by many also.
So why does Perry get listed as influence, and many of the others do not?Natural ability is only one part of the singing equation, and probably less important than HOW you use the voice (phrasing). In the standpoint of phrasing, Perry is one of the best ever at wrapping the melody around lyrics. Phrasing is what touches people.
Combine the two, and you have something special. Perry's inactivity since basically 1986 has somewhat removed him from public conscience, so he doesn't do his recognition at the moment, but it may come back at some point. His influence among singers is secure however.
I think the simplest answer to the bolded question is : 80 Million records sold worldwide! He is listed more because he was heard more...
The problem is...it's more complicated than that.
In singers lists, you tend to get the same names over and over...
Roy Orbison, Jackie Wilson, Aretha Franklin, Marvin Gaye, Sam Cooke, Lennon, McCartney, Ronnie James Dio, Robert Plant, Ann Wilson, Perry, John Farnham, Glenn Hughes, maybe David Coverdale, and some others that slip the mind. Expand it into heavy metal, and you get Bruce Dickinson and Rob Halford. Go farther back, you obviously get your Elvis, Sinatra, etc. Some are fairly obvious--some aren't.
I think amount of records sold obviously has some impact (hard to be influenced by someone you have never heard of before), but I don't see a direct correlation. Sure, Journey was big--but really, only in the US and Japan. Lots of bands were that big. You don't see Jon Bon Jovi mentioned as an influence, and Bon Jovi were certainly bigger. I don't see Mick Jagger mentioned, and The Rolling Stones are much bigger than Journey ever thought about becoming. Despite having the same influences, I don't see Rod Stewart mentioned all that often either. Dennis DeYoung, Kevin Cronin, Tommy Shaw, Brad Delp, Joe Elliott, Mickey Thomas, Bryan Adams, Springsteen and a whole bunch of Perry's contemporaries are not mentioned. There was certainly enough airplay from Styx, REO, Boston, and the other bands for the impression to be made. For some reason though, it wasn't.
Then, you get the oddballs... John Farnham--who is huge in Australia, but virtually unknown in the US. He's on that list. Same with Glenn Hughes. He's usually on that "best singers by singers" list, and isn't all that well known. Influence on singers doesn't seem to correlate directly with record sales. You get singers in the UK and everywhere mentioning Perry. Journey wasn't huge in Britain. Perry is one of the few singers from the 80s that is on the "influenced by" list. Hardly anyone from the 90s, save maybe Marc Anthony has made that list.
What made Jackie Wilson, Aretha and Sam Cooke stand out from Frankie Valli, Levi Stubbs or the 40 other singers in the 60s?
The question remains though...why? It's not just how common the voice was on the radio.