Enigma869 wrote:Dude...you really need to put your Ben Roethlisberger dildo away and start watching football. Listen, I don't dislike Ben. That said, Pittsburgh wins because of their defense, period, and they always have. Hell, the 70's era Steelers were the same team. If you look at the statistics of the Pittsburgh offensive players of the 1970's who are in the Hall Of Fame, they are fucking embarrassing! They were a product of a defensive "system"! Ben manages the game well and doesn't lose games, but it's still ALL about the defense. The Patriots are usually not ranked in the top 10 defensively, and only one of their super bowl teams even cracked the top 10, defensively. Pittsburgh ALWAYS has a top three defense, and that's why they win! You can keep your hardon for Ben, but he simply isn't in the class of Brady, Manning, or Brees as a QB. I'll certainly give him his due as a guy who doesn't piss games away (Like Favre has done most of his career), but you really need to make the Steelers sound like a team that is built around the "cannon" of Ben, because that's simply not who they've ever been!
Dude...you really need to put your Ben Roethlisberger dildo away and start watching football. Listen, I don't dislike Ben. That said, Pittsburgh wins because of their defense, period, and they always have.
How funny is it that you're telling me I need to put down the dildo, when reality is you do nothing but call Brady the best quarterback that ever lived and is already naming him MVP of the league, where it's proven that the Brady lovefest is EXHAUSTING when it comes to the media. He is the most pampered player of all time. With that said, I'm not saying Ben is the whole Pittsburgh Steelers team, it takes much more than 1 player to win a football game, but damn could one player be a difference maker, every team has one. I'm not making any of this shit up, or trying to make Ben out to be what he isn't. That's what wrong with fans that are ignorant to players such as Roethlisberger. He isn't on the highlight reel throwing the ball 50 yards down field every play, thus leaving people who aren't watching actual game play assuming he doesn't get the job done in other ways. It's typical.
I've never missed a Steeler game in my life, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that Roethlisberger is a major part of Pittsburgh's success. They've always lacked that killer instinct at quarterback, and Ben gave us that element to put us over the edge ever since the first start of his career. Anyone with a brain and who watches Steelers games come to realize that real quick. Me talking up Ben is no different than you, or the rest of the league that feels the need to talk up Brady. Brady gets hit, and it's an instant craze on ESPN highlights, that just goes to show the love-fest for this guy. You're believing your own hype and already naming Brady MVP of the god damn league. Talk about having a dick up your ass? Critics around the NFL L-O-V-E Brady and the Patriots when truth of the matter is, they haven't won SHIT since 2004. That's 5 years. They were apart of the biggest collapse in all of sports, lost a Superbowl, and missed the playoffs in that span. I have a right to keep the dildo up my ass, esp since we are winners of 2 Championships in the last 4 years, and esp. since our overall record is 62-25 as Ben Roethlisberger as our Quarterback.
Hell, the 70's era Steelers were the same team. If you look at the statistics of the Pittsburgh offensive players of the 1970's who are in the Hall Of Fame, they are fucking embarrassing! They were a product of a defensive "system"! Ben manages the game well and doesn't lose games, but it's still ALL about the defense. The Patriots are usually not ranked in the top 10 defensively, and only one of their super bowl teams even cracked the top 10, defensively. Pittsburgh ALWAYS has a top three defense, and that's why they win!
Huh? No they weren't. The Steelers of the 70's were more of the air it out team with Bradshaw, Swann, and Stallworth with a nice rushing attack with Harris and Bleir as the halfbacks. (#'s back then can't be compared to the numbers of today's NFL!) The Steelers' of the 70's were a 4-3 defense and brought a totally different alignment than they portray now, so it wasn't 'a product of a system. Some things that never changed in Pittsburgh was the mentality of getting after somebody and knocking you in the mouth. Isn't that the way teams want to be built? You can't blame a Quarterback with that kind of insurance on the other side of the ball. Quarterbacks have a job to do also, a tough one at that. The era's between now and the 70's are virtually two different worlds apart. They cannot be compared!
You can keep your hardon for Ben, but he simply isn't in the class of Brady, Manning, or Brees as a QB. I'll certainly give him his due as a guy who doesn't piss games away (Like Favre has done most of his career), but you really need to make the Steelers sound like a team that is built around the "cannon" of Ben, because that's simply not who they've ever been!
I Will continue to stand up for Ben, as you and other N.E fans would Brady, Colts fan of Manning, and Saints fan of Brees, because the last time I checked, it was all about winning games, and that's all that matters at the end of the day.. words that came straight out of your mouth. Regarding W's and L's, Ben is indeed in the same class as Brady, Manning, and Bree's. By the way, it wasn't too long ago that Ben was # 2 in the league in all statistical categories, only being behind Brady after his FREAKISH year playing the Quarterback position in 2007. Again, Pittsburgh is not a system to set up Ben to have the #'s Brady or Manning can operate. Even though the defense carried Pittsburgh, it was Ben and the offense that orchestrated last minutes drives, and the length of the field to put teams away in the final seconds year in and year out. Look it up, Ben is one of the best QB's of clutch football. It's right there on tape or in the books.
I need to call you out on a question. Do you really think Tom Brady could survive behind the Steelers offensive line with rushers coming free on almost every drop back? Do you believe Brady can get out of the line of fire and elude the pass rush as well as Roethliseberger and still make it look as easy as it is when sitting there for 7 seconds? If you answer YES, you are a MORON.
This is tiring. It's going to go back and forth as we beat this in the dirt every year. I know your stance and you know mine. I'm not going to change your opinion and you're certainly not going to change mine. When it comes down to it, look at the evidence in front of you. That's all we have. Both of these teams and Quarterbacks made their staple in the league and nothing of what we say is going to change that, regardless of style points.