strangegrey wrote:Arianddu wrote:I don't have a problem with the Wal-Mart employee - when it comes to children and suspected abuse, it should always be check it out and better safe than sorry - but I do have big issues with the child services employee who made the decision to take the children away. That's knee-jerk beauracracy, somebody covering their own butt, not looking after the welfare of the children.
You don't have a problem with the Wal-Mart employee??
So you don't have a problem with the Wal-Mart employee's invasion of the family's privacy? Last I checked, a walmart employee doesn't go through the necessary training required to spot such 'abuse' in a photograph.
Sorry. This sorta thing is sickening...and equally sickening that you would condone the behavior of this employee. Look at what this piece of shit and his so called 'better safe than sorry' actions resulted in:
Children removed from parents from 1 month
Mother losing her job
Mother and Father put on a list of sex offenders
Holy fucking shit. They couldn't get fucking Michael Jackson on that fucking list, despite gobs of proof...yet these poor parents were thrown on it without so much as a second look. Holy fuck!
If child protective services tried to remove my children because of a bathroom photo of my kids in the bathtub, they'd have a few dead CPS agents to clean up on my front lawn. Holy fuck!
You condone this behavior?
Where do you live? remind me never to go there....last thing I'd want is you developing my photos.

No, I don't have a problem with the Wal-Mart employee, any more than I have a problem with the neighbour who called the cops once when my Mamma and I were having a fight and he heard a huge crash and then silence (the dog freaked out at us yelling, jumped up and knocked over a tea-trolley loaded with dirty glasses I was supposed to have washed which we were fighting about.) My neighbour was concerned and didn't know what was happening, so got it checked out. As it happened, there was nothing wrong, the police found us both cleaning up a lot of broken glass and the dog sitting in a basket licking at a cut paw. We explained what happened, I was obviously ok and more concerned with my dog than anything else, and they left. They did the right thing, my neighbour did the right thing and no one was hurt or the worse for it.
That employee didn't remove those kids - child welfare did.
That employee didn't cost the mother her job - child welfare did.
That employee didn't put the parents on a list of sex offenders - child welfare did.
That employee did what all those neighbours of that poor woman who was kidnapped as a child and held and abused for years should have done - said 'this might not be right,
maybe I should tell someone who is qualified to make an assessment.' He or she did the right thing.
But the Welfare officers, who ARE trained, who SHOULD know the difference between child porn and an ordinary, innocent family photo should be strung up by their privates! Like I said before, they weren't looking after the welfare of the children involved, they were covering their own arses. Bureaucratic, self-centred fuckwits like this are the reason why kindergarten teachers can't comfort a child who has fallen over and hurt themselves, why fathers are afraid to kiss or hug their daughters in public, why children whose families need help are institutionalised instead of aided - because the paperwork and red tape protects the welfare workers from prosecution if something goes wrong, which is easier and safer for them than actually assessing situations and making considered decisions. It's the same attitude, just the other end of the scale, that keeps genuine offenders out of gaol and still abusing their family - play by the book, protect yourself with red tape, don't look at the bodies involved as real people, just treat it as a case.
When it comes to child safety no one should just shrug it off, but the people who have the authority and the experience to make judgement? Those pencil-pushers involved should be arrested and charged with child abuse for what they did to this family. There is no excuse there.
Why treat life as a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving in an attractive & well-preserved body? Get there by skidding in sideways, a glass of wine in one hand, chocolate in the other, body totally worn out, screaming WOOHOO! What a ride!