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Postby Blueskies » Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:21 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
Blueskies wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Wow, I missed that post... I was gone for most of Saturday when this got most of its action. No wonder he's pissed! That's ridiculous.

Exactly. That was my point that on that poster is a blatent ripoff of Journey scarab art. That is also a picture of Hugo and it says "The Journey Show" and no where mentions tribute.... so it's understandable why Neal would say something to him about it. Hugo's band member claims he had no part in it and that may be true but someone is responsible and if Hugo didn't have anything to do with it then he should look into who did.


I mean I know Neal's an off-the-cuff kinda guy as I just posted in the Perry statement thread, but I think my issue is as a professional, he should have kept this one to himself and quietly resolved it through the proper channels. Journey is doing very well touring, there's no need for him to appear threatened by someone like Hugo doing this. Plus, who knows how much digging Neal did before going nuts in front of many fans on Facebook - I am completely ignorant of the origins of the poster, but do we know for certain Hugo made this poster? Or did the venue? Or someone else?


No where have I argued in support of the manner in which Neal handled it or his manner of speech, I just said I could understand his point. I also just stated that someone who claims to be a member of Hugo's band has been posting in this thread claiming Hugo had no part in the poster. What the truth of the matter is and who is responsible is still up in the air.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:22 am

Blueskies wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Blueskies wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Wow, I missed that post... I was gone for most of Saturday when this got most of its action. No wonder he's pissed! That's ridiculous.

Exactly. That was my point that on that poster is a blatent ripoff of Journey scarab art. That is also a picture of Hugo and it says "The Journey Show" and no where mentions tribute.... so it's understandable why Neal would say something to him about it. Hugo's band member claims he had no part in it and that may be true but someone is responsible and if Hugo didn't have anything to do with it then he should look into who did.


I mean I know Neal's an off-the-cuff kinda guy as I just posted in the Perry statement thread, but I think my issue is as a professional, he should have kept this one to himself and quietly resolved it through the proper channels. Journey is doing very well touring, there's no need for him to appear threatened by someone like Hugo doing this. Plus, who knows how much digging Neal did before going nuts in front of many fans on Facebook - I am completely ignorant of the origins of the poster, but do we know for certain Hugo made this poster? Or did the venue? Or someone else?


No where have I argued in support of the manner in which Neal handled it or his manner of speech, I just said I could understand his point. I also just stated that someone who claims to be a member of Hugo's band has been posting in this thread claiming Hugo had no part in the poster. What the truth of the matter is and who is responsible is still up in the air.


So basically, we seem to agree.
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Postby Jana » Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:25 am

strangegrey wrote:
Gunbot wrote: Where is Tito?


Looking for his kneepads.


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Postby Blueskies » Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:26 am

Gunbot wrote:If Hugo isn't one of Neal's friends on Face Book, why is Fro talking about it on there? Can The EVOLUTION band even read those comments, much less respond to them on Schon's page? how does that work?


They would have to be friends on Facebook to be able to write messages on the "wall's".
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Postby Behshad » Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:48 am

Blueskies wrote:
Blueskies wrote:The debate has been won when the only comeback are insults that do not lend any evidentuary proof towards completely empty, highly biased, unsubstantiated claims.


:lol:
Only YOU would quote yourself :lol: to prove a point to yourself 8)
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Postby strangegrey » Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:52 am

Behshad wrote:
Blueskies wrote:
Blueskies wrote:The debate has been won when the only comeback are insults that do not lend any evidentuary proof towards completely empty, highly biased, unsubstantiated claims.


:lol:
Only YOU would quote yourself :lol: to prove a point to yourself 8)


Nah, give her more credit than that, B. She's thinking ahead. She's just leaving herself notes so that when one of her multiple personalities takes over another, shes caught up!
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Postby steveperryfan » Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:37 am

Blueskies wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Blueskies wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Wow, I missed that post... I was gone for most of Saturday when this got most of its action. No wonder he's pissed! That's ridiculous.

Exactly. That was my point that on that poster is a blatent ripoff of Journey scarab art. That is also a picture of Hugo and it says "The Journey Show" and no where mentions tribute.... so it's understandable why Neal would say something to him about it. Hugo's band member claims he had no part in it and that may be true but someone is responsible and if Hugo didn't have anything to do with it then he should look into who did.


I mean I know Neal's an off-the-cuff kinda guy as I just posted in the Perry statement thread, but I think my issue is as a professional, he should have kept this one to himself and quietly resolved it through the proper channels. Journey is doing very well touring, there's no need for him to appear threatened by someone like Hugo doing this. Plus, who knows how much digging Neal did before going nuts in front of many fans on Facebook - I am completely ignorant of the origins of the poster, but do we know for certain Hugo made this poster? Or did the venue? Or someone else?


No where have I argued in support of the manner in which Neal handled it or his manner of speech, I just said I could understand his point. I also just stated that someone who claims to be a member of Hugo's band has been posting in this thread claiming Hugo had no part in the poster. What the truth of the matter is and who is responsible is still up in the air.


it is me .. les from EVOLUTION that has been posting ... all i am saying about the poster from hawaii is Evolution had nothing to do with this ... as far as hugo goes he is on his own own that poster ,,, i don't know the whole story on there then he sang for a band that lost there singer for this show ,,neal has a point about the hawaii poster ,,
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Postby Blueskies » Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:01 am

steveperryfan wrote:
Blueskies wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Blueskies wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Wow, I missed that post... I was gone for most of Saturday when this got most of its action. No wonder he's pissed! That's ridiculous.

Exactly. That was my point that on that poster is a blatent ripoff of Journey scarab art. That is also a picture of Hugo and it says "The Journey Show" and no where mentions tribute.... so it's understandable why Neal would say something to him about it. Hugo's band member claims he had no part in it and that may be true but someone is responsible and if Hugo didn't have anything to do with it then he should look into who did.


I mean I know Neal's an off-the-cuff kinda guy as I just posted in the Perry statement thread, but I think my issue is as a professional, he should have kept this one to himself and quietly resolved it through the proper channels. Journey is doing very well touring, there's no need for him to appear threatened by someone like Hugo doing this. Plus, who knows how much digging Neal did before going nuts in front of many fans on Facebook - I am completely ignorant of the origins of the poster, but do we know for certain Hugo made this poster? Or did the venue? Or someone else?


No where have I argued in support of the manner in which Neal handled it or his manner of speech, I just said I could understand his point. I also just stated that someone who claims to be a member of Hugo's band has been posting in this thread claiming Hugo had no part in the poster. What the truth of the matter is and who is responsible is still up in the air.


it is me .. les from EVOLUTION that has been posting ... all i am saying about the poster from hawaii is Evolution had nothing to do with this ... as far as hugo goes he is on his own own that poster ,,, i don't know the whole story on there then he sang for a band that lost there singer for this show ,,neal has a point about the hawaii poster ,,


Thanks for clarifying because I wasn't even sure if Hugo took part in the show at all and that maybe someone just lifted his image for it. Now I know he did perform for the show as advertised and that you are only saying that the whole band didn't and that as a band you and the other band members had no part in it but Hugo did. Also thanks for saying you, as well , see the points of contention with that poster. So, this is an issue that needs to be answered to and resolved between Hugo, the club and Neal & Journey.
Although a gig in Hawaii is always nice I'm sure you are very glad that it wasn't an Evolution gig that night at this point. :lol: :wink: :)
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Postby strangegrey » Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:47 am

Blueskies wrote:So, this is an issue that needs to be answered to and resolved between Hugo, the club and Neal & Journey.


Gee, a misspelled, grammatically challenged flurry of posts on facebook seems like the perfect forum for that! :roll:
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Postby Chubby321 » Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:01 am

wednesday's child wrote:
Chubby321 wrote:I professed the love for this band only after they hired Arnel. I was very honest from the start how I got to know and love this band. And you should know it by now.

I will not renounce "my fan-ship" nor you cannot make me buy Infinity or TBF. :twisted: I have my preference and that is Arnel with Journey. And I really like Neal, as a matter of fact, I am a proud facebook friend of Neal. :wink:



Chubby,
:roll:

1. Lubos ang tuwa at pagmamalaki ko nang mapili si Arnel ng Journey, at kung hindi man ako datihan pang
tumatangkilik sa Journey, ay gugustuhin ko pa ring makilala't marinig ang mga nakaraang likha ng banda. Para
magtakip-tenga ka sa mga dating mga album nila ay salungat sa gawa ni Arnel mismo, na siyang kumakayod
sa pagbigay-parangal sa nasabing mga pamana nina Perry, Augeri atbp; sa entablado at sa plaka.

2. Ang pangit ng dating mo.
Kung ang mga binitiwan mong salita ukol kay Augeri, at 'tapos nun, kay Frank, ay walang malisya, ang naiisip
pa rin ng mga nakakabasa ng salita mo ay meron nga. Marapat na pag-aralan mo ang iyong paraan ng
pakikipag-usap, at kung BAKIT naiisip ng marami na pangit ang mga bigkas mo.

3. Ang pasan na binuhat ni Augeri ay hindi makakayang buhatin ni Arnel.
Kaka-alis lang ni Perry nun, na siyang kilala ng napakarami na boses ng Journey. Kahit sino ang kapalit niya,
babatikusin. Lalo pa kung taga-ibang bansa, at hirap pa'ng mag-Inggles --mawalang-galang na kay Arnel, pero
medyo hirap naman talaga siyang makipag-usap sa wikang Inggles.

4. Si Arnel, ay pinili dahil sa hawig ang boses niya kay Perry. Hindi exacto, pero kasinungalingan para
sabihin na iba pa ang dahilan kung bakit siya napansin ni Neal sa YouTube. Maganda ang boses, at hawig sa
boses-Perry, kaya nakuha si 'Nel.


wech


Alam mo Welch hindi sana kita sasagutin kaya lang sa dami nang taong ipapagtaggol mo ay yuon pang tao na ang pastime ay hamakin at liitin ang kapwa mo Pilipino at si Arnel. At sa baho nang mga words na lumalabas sa bunganga niya ay siguro paminsan minsan dapat makatikim din siya na mainsulto para matikman niya ang masasakit na salita na binibitawan niya tunkol sa mga kapwa mo Pilipino at kay Arnel. Ako ay humingi nang paumanhin at kung hindi niya tanggapin ay wala akong magagawa. Sana naman, dahil na offend ka sinabi ko tungkol sa kanya, dapat 10x kang ma offend sa mga panlalaiit niya sa mga kapwa natin Pilipino.

Kailan ang istorya nang buhay nang isang tao ay naging disrespectful? Kaya ako naging fan nang Journey ay dahil kay Arnel. Hindi ako fan nang Journey noong araw. Ako yung tinatawag nilang new breed na fan. At hindi lang ako fan sa salita, pati sa gawa dahil ako ay gumagastos para mapanood itong banda na ito. Hindi lang ako ang ganito marami pang mag puti, taga Chile at ibang nasyon na kaya naging Journey fan sa ngayon ay dahil nagustuhan namin si Arnel. iyon ay tunay na buhay at hidi pagiging disrespectful. Ewan ko kung bakit hindi maintindihan iyon nang ibang tao dito.

Huwag mo akong intindihin Welch, kaya ang tawag dito ay forum kasi may kanya kanya tayong storya at paniniwala. At ito ang nag papasikat sa forum na ito. Kaya ko lang nasabi ang tungkol kay SA ay dahil ang sabi dito, kaya lang sikat si Arnel ay dahil kaboses siya ni SP. Hindi ako naniniwala na yun lang ang dahilan kung bakit may konting success ang banda. Isa lang yun sa dahilan at may iba pa. Kung talagang boses lang ang kailangan para sumikat, bakit si Arnel ay may kontrata lang for one year. Kasi gusto nilang makita kung si Arnel ay may "it factor" at mag click siya sa manoond. Para yang artista, hindi porke ikaw ay mahusay umarte ay box office hit din ang pelikula mo. Dapat ang mga tao ay may desire na mapanood ka at maaliw sa performance mo para sila bumalik at manood ulit nang concert. Sino ba ang nagpapakahirap gabi gabi? Di ba ang buong banda? Katulad nga nang sabi ni Oprah, bibalik bi Arnel ang magic sa Journey. Hindi yun diss kay SA, comparison sa nangyayari sa band ngayon. May respeto ako kay SA, gusto ko nga siya, katunayan may mga kanta siya na nasa ipod ko.

Eh ano kung hindi marunong mag inglis sa Arnel, eh hindi naman siya Amerkano. Alam mo dito sa America si Arnel ay mas magaling pang mag inglis kaysa sa ibang nasyon. Hindi ko yun kinahihiya. Kung may pinasan si SA, ganoon din si Arnel. Nakalimutan mo na ba kung paano hinamak nang husto nuong iannounce siya na frontman? Pero nagpapakirap siya na magampanan ang trabaho niya para ay tao ay satisfied kapag lumabas nang concert.

Hindi lahat nang tao ay fan ni SP, hindi ibig sabihin nuon na hindi mo siya nirerespeto, ang tao lang ay makanya kayang gusto. Nangyayari yun kahit kanino. Yun sana ang maintindihan nang mga tao dito na diehard ni SP. Kanya kanya lang yan na panahon.
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Postby steveo777 » Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:07 am

Chubby321 wrote:
wednesday's child wrote:
Chubby321 wrote:I professed the love for this band only after they hired Arnel. I was very honest from the start how I got to know and love this band. And you should know it by now.

I will not renounce "my fan-ship" nor you cannot make me buy Infinity or TBF. :twisted: I have my preference and that is Arnel with Journey. And I really like Neal, as a matter of fact, I am a proud facebook friend of Neal. :wink:



Chubby,
:roll:

1. Lubos ang tuwa at pagmamalaki ko nang mapili si Arnel ng Journey, at kung hindi man ako datihan pang
tumatangkilik sa Journey, ay gugustuhin ko pa ring makilala't marinig ang mga nakaraang likha ng banda. Para
magtakip-tenga ka sa mga dating mga album nila ay salungat sa gawa ni Arnel mismo, na siyang kumakayod
sa pagbigay-parangal sa nasabing mga pamana nina Perry, Augeri atbp; sa entablado at sa plaka.

2. Ang pangit ng dating mo.
Kung ang mga binitiwan mong salita ukol kay Augeri, at 'tapos nun, kay Frank, ay walang malisya, ang naiisip
pa rin ng mga nakakabasa ng salita mo ay meron nga. Marapat na pag-aralan mo ang iyong paraan ng
pakikipag-usap, at kung BAKIT naiisip ng marami na pangit ang mga bigkas mo.

3. Ang pasan na binuhat ni Augeri ay hindi makakayang buhatin ni Arnel.
Kaka-alis lang ni Perry nun, na siyang kilala ng napakarami na boses ng Journey. Kahit sino ang kapalit niya,
babatikusin. Lalo pa kung taga-ibang bansa, at hirap pa'ng mag-Inggles --mawalang-galang na kay Arnel, pero
medyo hirap naman talaga siyang makipag-usap sa wikang Inggles.

4. Si Arnel, ay pinili dahil sa hawig ang boses niya kay Perry. Hindi exacto, pero kasinungalingan para
sabihin na iba pa ang dahilan kung bakit siya napansin ni Neal sa YouTube. Maganda ang boses, at hawig sa
boses-Perry, kaya nakuha si 'Nel.


wech


Alam mo Welch hindi sana kita sasagutin kaya lang sa dami nang taong ipapagtaggol mo ay yuon pang tao na ang pastime ay hamakin at liitin ang kapwa mo Pilipino at si Arnel. At sa baho nang mga words na lumalabas sa bunganga niya ay siguro paminsan minsan dapat makatikim din siya na mainsulto para matikman niya ang masasakit na salita na binibitawan niya tunkol sa mga kapwa mo Pilipino at kay Arnel. Ako ay humingi nang paumanhin at kung hindi niya tanggapin ay wala akong magagawa. Sana naman, dahil na offend ka sinabi ko tungkol sa kanya, dapat 10x kang ma offend sa mga panlalaiit niya sa mga kapwa natin Pilipino.

Kailan ang istorya nang buhay nang isang tao ay naging disrespectful? Kaya ako naging fan nang Journey ay dahil kay Arnel. Hindi ako fan nang Journey noong araw. Ako yung tinatawag nilang new breed na fan. At hindi lang ako fan sa salita, pati sa gawa dahil ako ay gumagastos para mapanood itong banda na ito. Hindi lang ako ang ganito marami pang mag puti, taga Chile at ibang nasyon na kaya naging Journey fan sa ngayon ay dahil nagustuhan namin si Arnel. iyon ay tunay na buhay at hidi pagiging disrespectful. Ewan ko kung bakit hindi maintindihan iyon nang ibang tao dito.

Huwag mo akong intindihin Welch, kaya ang tawag dito ay forum kasi may kanya kanya tayong storya at paniniwala. At ito ang nag papasikat sa forum na ito. Kaya ko lang nasabi ang tungkol kay SA ay dahil ang sabi dito, kaya lang sikat si Arnel ay dahil kaboses siya ni SP. Hindi ako naniniwala na yun lang ang dahilan kung bakit may konting success ang banda. Isa lang yun sa dahilan at may iba pa. Kung talagang boses lang ang kailangan para sumikat, bakit si Arnel ay may kontrata lang for one year. Kasi gusto nilang makita kung si Arnel ay may "it factor" at mag click siya sa manoond. Para yang artista, hindi porke ikaw ay mahusay umarte ay box office hit din ang pelikula mo. Dapat ang mga tao ay may desire na mapanood ka at maaliw sa performance mo para sila bumalik at manood ulit nang concert. Sino ba ang nagpapakahirap gabi gabi? Di ba ang buong banda? Katulad nga nang sabi ni Oprah, bibalik bi Arnel ang magic sa Journey. Hindi yun diss kay SA, comparison sa nangyayari sa band ngayon. May respeto ako kay SA, gusto ko nga siya, katunayan may mga kanta siya na nasa ipod ko.

Eh ano kung hindi marunong mag inglis sa Arnel, eh hindi naman siya Amerkano. Alam mo dito sa America si Arnel ay mas magaling pang mag inglis kaysa sa ibang nasyon. Hindi ko yun kinahihiya. Kung may pinasan si SA, ganoon din si Arnel. Nakalimutan mo na ba kung paano hinamak nang husto nuong iannounce siya na frontman? Pero nagpapakirap siya na magampanan ang trabaho niya para ay tao ay satisfied kapag lumabas nang concert.

Hindi lahat nag tao ay fan ni SP, hindi ibig sabihin nuon na hindi mo siya nirerespeto, ang tao lang ay makanya kayang gusto. Nangyayari yun kahit kanino. Yun sana ang maintindihan nang mga tao dito na diehard ni SP. Kanya kanya lang yan na panahon.


Why don't you two get a room? Oh, I guess it doesn't matter since nobody understands it anyway. :wink:

I'll bet prior to Dec of 2007 you MR would never have seen Tagalog spoken. :mrgreen:
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Postby mdaemon » Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:10 am

steveo777 wrote:
Chubby321 wrote:
wednesday's child wrote:
Chubby321 wrote:I professed the love for this band only after they hired Arnel. I was very honest from the start how I got to know and love this band. And you should know it by now.

I will not renounce "my fan-ship" nor you cannot make me buy Infinity or TBF. :twisted: I have my preference and that is Arnel with Journey. And I really like Neal, as a matter of fact, I am a proud facebook friend of Neal. :wink:



Chubby,
:roll:

1. Lubos ang tuwa at pagmamalaki ko nang mapili si Arnel ng Journey, at kung hindi man ako datihan pang
tumatangkilik sa Journey, ay gugustuhin ko pa ring makilala't marinig ang mga nakaraang likha ng banda. Para
magtakip-tenga ka sa mga dating mga album nila ay salungat sa gawa ni Arnel mismo, na siyang kumakayod
sa pagbigay-parangal sa nasabing mga pamana nina Perry, Augeri atbp; sa entablado at sa plaka.

2. Ang pangit ng dating mo.
Kung ang mga binitiwan mong salita ukol kay Augeri, at 'tapos nun, kay Frank, ay walang malisya, ang naiisip
pa rin ng mga nakakabasa ng salita mo ay meron nga. Marapat na pag-aralan mo ang iyong paraan ng
pakikipag-usap, at kung BAKIT naiisip ng marami na pangit ang mga bigkas mo.

3. Ang pasan na binuhat ni Augeri ay hindi makakayang buhatin ni Arnel.
Kaka-alis lang ni Perry nun, na siyang kilala ng napakarami na boses ng Journey. Kahit sino ang kapalit niya,
babatikusin. Lalo pa kung taga-ibang bansa, at hirap pa'ng mag-Inggles --mawalang-galang na kay Arnel, pero
medyo hirap naman talaga siyang makipag-usap sa wikang Inggles.

4. Si Arnel, ay pinili dahil sa hawig ang boses niya kay Perry. Hindi exacto, pero kasinungalingan para
sabihin na iba pa ang dahilan kung bakit siya napansin ni Neal sa YouTube. Maganda ang boses, at hawig sa
boses-Perry, kaya nakuha si 'Nel.


wech


Alam mo Welch hindi sana kita sasagutin kaya lang sa dami nang taong ipapagtaggol mo ay yuon pang tao na ang pastime ay hamakin at liitin ang kapwa mo Pilipino at si Arnel. At sa baho nang mga words na lumalabas sa bunganga niya ay siguro paminsan minsan dapat makatikim din siya na mainsulto para matikman niya ang masasakit na salita na binibitawan niya tunkol sa mga kapwa mo Pilipino at kay Arnel. Ako ay humingi nang paumanhin at kung hindi niya tanggapin ay wala akong magagawa. Sana naman, dahil na offend ka sinabi ko tungkol sa kanya, dapat 10x kang ma offend sa mga panlalaiit niya sa mga kapwa natin Pilipino.

Kailan ang istorya nang buhay nang isang tao ay naging disrespectful? Kaya ako naging fan nang Journey ay dahil kay Arnel. Hindi ako fan nang Journey noong araw. Ako yung tinatawag nilang new breed na fan. At hindi lang ako fan sa salita, pati sa gawa dahil ako ay gumagastos para mapanood itong banda na ito. Hindi lang ako ang ganito marami pang mag puti, taga Chile at ibang nasyon na kaya naging Journey fan sa ngayon ay dahil nagustuhan namin si Arnel. iyon ay tunay na buhay at hidi pagiging disrespectful. Ewan ko kung bakit hindi maintindihan iyon nang ibang tao dito.

Huwag mo akong intindihin Welch, kaya ang tawag dito ay forum kasi may kanya kanya tayong storya at paniniwala. At ito ang nag papasikat sa forum na ito. Kaya ko lang nasabi ang tungkol kay SA ay dahil ang sabi dito, kaya lang sikat si Arnel ay dahil kaboses siya ni SP. Hindi ako naniniwala na yun lang ang dahilan kung bakit may konting success ang banda. Isa lang yun sa dahilan at may iba pa. Kung talagang boses lang ang kailangan para sumikat, bakit si Arnel ay may kontrata lang for one year. Kasi gusto nilang makita kung si Arnel ay may "it factor" at mag click siya sa manoond. Para yang artista, hindi porke ikaw ay mahusay umarte ay box office hit din ang pelikula mo. Dapat ang mga tao ay may desire na mapanood ka at maaliw sa performance mo para sila bumalik at manood ulit nang concert. Sino ba ang nagpapakahirap gabi gabi? Di ba ang buong banda? Katulad nga nang sabi ni Oprah, bibalik bi Arnel ang magic sa Journey. Hindi yun diss kay SA, comparison sa nangyayari sa band ngayon. May respeto ako kay SA, gusto ko nga siya, katunayan may mga kanta siya na nasa ipod ko.

Eh ano kung hindi marunong mag inglis sa Arnel, eh hindi naman siya Amerkano. Alam mo dito sa America si Arnel ay mas magaling pang mag inglis kaysa sa ibang nasyon. Hindi ko yun kinahihiya. Kung may pinasan si SA, ganoon din si Arnel. Nakalimutan mo na ba kung paano hinamak nang husto nuong iannounce siya na frontman? Pero nagpapakirap siya na magampanan ang trabaho niya para ay tao ay satisfied kapag lumabas nang concert.

Hindi lahat nag tao ay fan ni SP, hindi ibig sabihin nuon na hindi mo siya nirerespeto, ang tao lang ay makanya kayang gusto. Nangyayari yun kahit kanino. Yun sana ang maintindihan nang mga tao dito na diehard ni SP. Kanya kanya lang yan na panahon.


Why don't you two get a room? Oh, I guess it doesn't matter since nobody understands it anyway. :wink:


I am not translating :D

...my tagalog is not very good :lol:

....and my english too :lol:
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Postby mdaemon » Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:12 am

steveo777 wrote:I'll bet prior to Dec of 2007 you MR would never have seen Tagalog spoken. :mrgreen:


MR was a better place back then....because you weren't a member yet :lol:
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Postby steveo777 » Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:14 am

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steveo777 wrote:I'll bet prior to Dec of 2007 you MR would never have seen Tagalog spoken. :mrgreen:


MR was a better place back then....because you weren't a member yet :lol:


Always a lot of love around here. Bite me douche bag! :wink:
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Postby strangegrey » Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:19 am

Chubby321 wrote:
wednesday's child wrote:
Chubby321 wrote:I professed the love for this band only after they hired Arnel. I was very honest from the start how I got to know and love this band. And you should know it by now.

I will not renounce "my fan-ship" nor you cannot make me buy Infinity or TBF. :twisted: I have my preference and that is Arnel with Journey. And I really like Neal, as a matter of fact, I am a proud facebook friend of Neal. :wink:



Chubby,
:roll:

1. Lubos ang tuwa at pagmamalaki ko nang mapili si Arnel ng Journey, at kung hindi man ako datihan pang
tumatangkilik sa Journey, ay gugustuhin ko pa ring makilala't marinig ang mga nakaraang likha ng banda. Para
magtakip-tenga ka sa mga dating mga album nila ay salungat sa gawa ni Arnel mismo, na siyang kumakayod
sa pagbigay-parangal sa nasabing mga pamana nina Perry, Augeri atbp; sa entablado at sa plaka.

2. Ang pangit ng dating mo.
Kung ang mga binitiwan mong salita ukol kay Augeri, at 'tapos nun, kay Frank, ay walang malisya, ang naiisip
pa rin ng mga nakakabasa ng salita mo ay meron nga. Marapat na pag-aralan mo ang iyong paraan ng
pakikipag-usap, at kung BAKIT naiisip ng marami na pangit ang mga bigkas mo.

3. Ang pasan na binuhat ni Augeri ay hindi makakayang buhatin ni Arnel.
Kaka-alis lang ni Perry nun, na siyang kilala ng napakarami na boses ng Journey. Kahit sino ang kapalit niya,
babatikusin. Lalo pa kung taga-ibang bansa, at hirap pa'ng mag-Inggles --mawalang-galang na kay Arnel, pero
medyo hirap naman talaga siyang makipag-usap sa wikang Inggles.

4. Si Arnel, ay pinili dahil sa hawig ang boses niya kay Perry. Hindi exacto, pero kasinungalingan para
sabihin na iba pa ang dahilan kung bakit siya napansin ni Neal sa YouTube. Maganda ang boses, at hawig sa
boses-Perry, kaya nakuha si 'Nel.


wech


Alam mo Welch hindi sana kita sasagutin kaya lang sa dami nang taong ipapagtaggol mo ay yuon pang tao na ang pastime ay hamakin at liitin ang kapwa mo Pilipino at si Arnel. At sa baho nang mga words na lumalabas sa bunganga niya ay siguro paminsan minsan dapat makatikim din siya na mainsulto para matikman niya ang masasakit na salita na binibitawan niya tunkol sa mga kapwa mo Pilipino at kay Arnel. Ako ay humingi nang paumanhin at kung hindi niya tanggapin ay wala akong magagawa. Sana naman, dahil na offend ka sinabi ko tungkol sa kanya, dapat 10x kang ma offend sa mga panlalaiit niya sa mga kapwa natin Pilipino.

Kailan ang istorya nang buhay nang isang tao ay naging disrespectful? Kaya ako naging fan nang Journey ay dahil kay Arnel. Hindi ako fan nang Journey noong araw. Ako yung tinatawag nilang new breed na fan. At hindi lang ako fan sa salita, pati sa gawa dahil ako ay gumagastos para mapanood itong banda na ito. Hindi lang ako ang ganito marami pang mag puti, taga Chile at ibang nasyon na kaya naging Journey fan sa ngayon ay dahil nagustuhan namin si Arnel. iyon ay tunay na buhay at hidi pagiging disrespectful. Ewan ko kung bakit hindi maintindihan iyon nang ibang tao dito.

Huwag mo akong intindihin Welch, kaya ang tawag dito ay forum kasi may kanya kanya tayong storya at paniniwala. At ito ang nag papasikat sa forum na ito. Kaya ko lang nasabi ang tungkol kay SA ay dahil ang sabi dito, kaya lang sikat si Arnel ay dahil kaboses siya ni SP. Hindi ako naniniwala na yun lang ang dahilan kung bakit may konting success ang banda. Isa lang yun sa dahilan at may iba pa. Kung talagang boses lang ang kailangan para sumikat, bakit si Arnel ay may kontrata lang for one year. Kasi gusto nilang makita kung si Arnel ay may "it factor" at mag click siya sa manoond. Para yang artista, hindi porke ikaw ay mahusay umarte ay box office hit din ang pelikula mo. Dapat ang mga tao ay may desire na mapanood ka at maaliw sa performance mo para sila bumalik at manood ulit nang concert. Sino ba ang nagpapakahirap gabi gabi? Di ba ang buong banda? Katulad nga nang sabi ni Oprah, bibalik bi Arnel ang magic sa Journey. Hindi yun diss kay SA, comparison sa nangyayari sa band ngayon. May respeto ako kay SA, gusto ko nga siya, katunayan may mga kanta siya na nasa ipod ko.

Eh ano kung hindi marunong mag inglis sa Arnel, eh hindi naman siya Amerkano. Alam mo dito sa America si Arnel ay mas magaling pang mag inglis kaysa sa ibang nasyon. Hindi ko yun kinahihiya. Kung may pinasan si SA, ganoon din si Arnel. Nakalimutan mo na ba kung paano hinamak nang husto nuong iannounce siya na frontman? Pero nagpapakirap siya na magampanan ang trabaho niya para ay tao ay satisfied kapag lumabas nang concert.

Hindi lahat nag tao ay fan ni SP, hindi ibig sabihin nuon na hindi mo siya nirerespeto, ang tao lang ay makanya kayang gusto. Nangyayari yun kahit kanino. Yun sana ang maintindihan nang mga tao dito na diehard ni SP. Kanya kanya lang yan na panahon.



Um there's this thing called PM...people. Use it!
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Postby G.I.Jim » Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:50 am

WTH??? :? Now I need a translator to understand the posts around here? How the hell am I supposed to reply with a smart-assed post, if I don't even know what you two are talking about? :shock: :x :lol:
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Postby strangegrey » Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:53 am

G.I.Jim wrote:WTH??? :? Now I need a translator to understand the posts around here? How the hell am I supposed to reply with a smart-assed post, if I don't even know what you two are talking about? :shock: :x :lol:



Thanks for saying it in a light hearted way. I'm not capable.

My grandmother used to rudely speak to my grandfather in her native language around us when she was melodramatically trying to exclude us from the conversation. My grandfather knew it was rude as fuck and chastised her for it...

Too bad there isn't anyone around here that's going to get the same point across. :roll:
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Postby portland » Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:53 am

G.I.Jim wrote:WTH??? :? Now I need a translator to understand the posts around here? How the hell am I supposed to reply with a smart-assed post, if I don't even know what you two are talking about? :shock: :x :lol:






I know is there someone here who would care to let the rest of the kids in on what to hell was discussed??? :wink:
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Postby steveo777 » Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:58 am

portland wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:WTH??? :? Now I need a translator to understand the posts around here? How the hell am I supposed to reply with a smart-assed post, if I don't even know what you two are talking about? :shock: :x :lol:






I know is there someone here who would care to let the rest of the kids in on what to hell was discussed??? :wink:


Wech probably just gave her the Tagalog version of what I said. I hope he has a gentle way because I felt bad about doing that to her but sometimes the only thing you can do is just say it and hope the point gets across.
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Postby strangegrey » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:20 am

steveo777 wrote:Wech probably just gave her the Tagalog version of what I said. I hope he has a gentle way because I felt bad about doing that to her but sometimes the only thing you can do is just say it and hope the point gets across.


The more apropriate way to do that would be PMs...
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Postby JohnH » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:41 am

steveperryfan wrote:ok here it is ..... you want someone from a journey tribute this is the bass player that plays with hugo in EVOLUTION ... out there , this is only the beginnig with this ,,, there will be issuses from this from other type of tributes out there soon , it had to come to this .... i agree that you must present your self proper ,, we can not help ourselsves that we look like the band a bit ,, agian o know we have haters and likers the is life there are more journey tributes out there then ever know ...what should neal do now ....i do not dislike anyone in the band i am just caught in the hugo vs neal cross fire ... ...


I'm not sure what I understand less- Tagalog or this english challenged post. I need some advil after trying to read it. At least I speak a couple of Tagalog words.
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Postby steveperryfan » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:58 am

JohnH wrote:
steveperryfan wrote:ok here it is ..... you want someone from a journey tribute this is the bass player that plays with hugo in EVOLUTION ... out there , this is only the beginnig with this ,,, there will be issuses from this from other type of tributes out there soon , it had to come to this .... i agree that you must present your self proper ,, we can not help ourselsves that we look like the band a bit ,, agian o know we have haters and likers the is life there are more journey tributes out there then ever know ...what should neal do now ....i do not dislike anyone in the band i am just caught in the hugo vs neal cross fire ... ...


I'm not sure what I understand less- Tagalog or this english challenged post. I need some advil after trying to read it. At least I speak a couple of Tagalog words.


sorry i was a bit worked up when i wrote this and typed really fast .... :shock:
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Postby Author2 » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:59 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
Gunbot wrote:I believe Perry has writing credits on 17 of Journey's 18 Top 40 hits, Cain 15 and Schon 12.

Hypothetically, Steve Perry never joined the band...so these number's are irrelevant!! :wink:

Hey, AUTHOR2.....welcome aboard!!! :wink:




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Postby brywool » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:12 pm

Jana wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:
parfait wrote:I still think neal is overreacting, but geez...

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And this was Neal's response to the poster: Ok, now tell me this is not misleading?? (THE JOURNEY SHOW) SEPARATE WAYS . This is Hugo , Now is he from( Evolution) or (Separate Ways) ?? Or is he trying to make you believe this is a solo S.P. gig ?? You tell me... No ware on this poster do I see (A Tribute to Journey) Fraudulent Bull Shit!.... You be the judge....;)


Neal has a definite point -- does anyone remember the gig earlier in the year (or was it last year) where Evolution was basically advertised AS Journey? There was a thread here about it, and an article mentioning that many people were fooled and thought they were watching Journey. Some YouTube clips, too. I don't know if that promotion came from the band or the venue, but I'm surprised it still continues.


I think Neal has a point too.


WOW. No kidding. It looks like a Perry shot that was never used. Neal should be pissed.
NO. He's NOT Steve F'ing Perry. But he's Arnel F'ing Pineda and I'm okay with that.
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Postby hoagiepete » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:36 pm

And just why should Schon NOT be a touch ticked off????
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Postby Andrew » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:59 pm

has ANYONE considered this might all be the work of the cafe????

Maybe THEY did the poster on their own? They already have a question mark over their head as far as this so called "Steve Perry" show, whihc was never EVER going to happen...

Just saying...
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Postby PowerChords » Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:05 pm

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You got to be kidding me! Wow, I cannot believe this! The hair, the face! Could it be? It's... It's...







Amanda Abila!!!!



Oh and who's that guy on the poster?
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Postby JasonD » Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:12 pm

Nah, I bet it's just somebody who looks & sings like Amanda Abila. :twisted: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Blueskies » Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:20 pm

Andrew wrote:has ANYONE considered this might all be the work of the cafe????

Maybe THEY did the poster on their own? They already have a question mark over their head as far as this so called "Steve Perry" show, whihc was never EVER going to happen...

Just saying...


Yes, I did consider that and commented to that affect by saying that if Hugo had no part of the promotion material for the show then I would think he would want to get to the bottom of it as well. I would think he would have been aware of how he was being promoted and had seen the poster but maybe not. Questions need to be answered though, because someone is responsible....so it's still up in the air on who is responsible and to what if any extent Hugo's level of involvement in the promotion material was or wasn't. He surely had to know at least what the show was being billed as. :wink:
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Postby annie89509 » Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:39 pm

portland wrote:I wonder what SP thinks for Hugo and this act??? I mean if anyone should be a little upset I would think it would be him.....is it not his stage presence that Hugo is emulating????

Oh wait......that would piss Neal off as well.....got it :lol: :lol: :lol:

I recall a quote from way back attributed to SP after seeing Hugo ... "give me my DNA back." True story.
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