So how many so far have the new DVD?

[Ehwmatt]

Hey, bought the dvd yesterday. when I opened it up, in the first flap there is a place meant to insert a booklet/liner notes but mine was empty. Just curious if it wasn't included by mistake. Now, if nobody's dvd came with a booklet, why is there an insert for nothing?

Take it back, you should have a booklet. It's nothing special, but still, you should have it.

[Enigma869]

What's up w/ Castronovo's increasingly "metal" look? All inked up, rockin that "Hulk Hair" again...looks like a completely different person than the 2001 DVD...

He definitely looks dramatically different and needs a fucking haircut. I just wish they'd stop having Deen sing "Mother/Father", because I'd still love to hear Arnel do that one song. Deen has a good voice, but it's way too thin to take on that song. I love watching him drum on that song while singing at the same time, because I think it's an amazing feat. I would just prefer to hear Arnel sing it.

[YoungJRNY]

Just watched the DVD. Nothing really new here when comparing this DVD to the Vegas DVD in my opinion. The only difference I hear is the crisp sound riffing out of Neal's guitar, and Deen's drumming is nothing short of spectacular. The energy level is through the roof the whole show and the band is really jelling on all cylinders and they have really sealed their niche with Arnel. I wasn't really expecting much from the picture, but I expected it to be better than it visibly was shown. The sound quality wasn't that great also, and I have bow's speakers set up. This needs to be released in Blue Rey. There's no way, no how that it shouldn't and the overall picture and sound would do major justice.

Arnel, is still having diction issue's, much noticed to me, in Only the Young. He sings the songs very well, better than anyone before him not named Steve Perry, but his diction is what's giving me a headache. The "AAaaAA" on the end on some notes is just crucial to me. He has gotten better, and on some songs he seems to not have issue's whatso ever, but when he falls into that bad habit of "AaaaAAa" then it ruins energry for me.

However, Lights, and When You Love A Woman was one of the best re-incarnations of these song's I've ever heard. The opening lines to WYLAW literally gave me chills and he nailed the performance from top to bottom. A complete knock out. I was stunned with his vocal capabilities throughout the show and he got better as the night went on. Overall, he still needs some vocal coaching, and you could tell that sometimes it's not so much of diction or accent, but just the way the man sings, and I'm okay with that. Arnel is so amazing at what he does that overall, those little nit-pics are OVERLOOKED for me, but at the same time, noticeable. If they can get him in a rhythm and work on the habit, then he will continue to get better, to which I expect. I'd give a full breakdown like Matt did, but I'm tired as hell, and I still got to watch it again and probably see things I haven't the first run through.

Also, RIP is shown throughout the video and is in perfect position to be on camera. Good job, Rip. (Clapping*) Arnel during the coarse of the night, gets his legged grabbed by women who feels the need to feel the dude up while belting out high notes. That would drive me up a wall, but I'm more than happy by where the band is today. Bring on the new album!

[Behshad]

Just watched the DVD. Nothing really new here when comparing this DVD to the Vegas DVD in my opinion. The only difference I hear is the crisp sound riffing out of Neal's guitar, and Deen's drumming is nothing short of spectacular. The energy level is through the roof the whole show and the band is really jelling on all cylinders and they have really sealed their niche with Arnel. I wasn't really expecting much from the picture, but I expected it to be better than it visibly was shown. The sound quality wasn't that great also, and I have bow's speakers set up. This needs to be released in Blue Rey. There's no way, no how that it shouldn't and the overall picture and sound would do major justice.

Arnel, is still having diction issue's, much noticed to me, in Only the Young. He sings the songs very well, better than anyone before him not named Steve Perry, but his diction is what's giving me a headache. The "AAaaAA" on the end on some notes is just crucial to me. He has gotten better, and on some songs he seems to not have issue's whatso ever, but when he falls into that bad habit of "AaaaAAa" then it ruins energry for me.

However, Lights, and When You Love A Woman was one of the best re-incarnations of these song's I've ever heard. The opening lines to WYLAW literally gave me chills and he nailed the performance from top to bottom. A complete knock out. I was stunned with his vocal capabilities throughout the show and he got better as the night went on. Overall, he still needs some vocal coaching, and you could tell that sometimes it's not so much of diction or accent, but just the way the man sings, and I'm okay with that. Arnel is so amazing at what he does that overall, those little nit-pics are OVERLOOKED for me, but at the same time, noticeable. If they can get him in a rhythm and work on the habit, then he will continue to get better, to which I expect. I'd give a full breakdown like Matt did, but I'm tired as hell, and I still got to watch it again and probably see things I haven't the first run through.

Also, RIP is shown throughout the video and is in perfect position to be on camera. Good job, Rip. (Clapping*) Arnel during the coarse of the night, gets his legged grabbed by women who feels the need to feel the dude up while belting out high notes. That would drive me up a wall, but I'm more than happy by where the band is today. Bring on the new album!

Aha! that explains why he was hunting down that DVD so badly last week..... Itd been much easier (& cheaper) to invest in a mirror

[Enigma869]

The sound quality wasn't that great also, and I have bow's speakers set up.

Here is a tip for you dude...If your speakers actually say "bow's" on the front, you've been ripped off If they say Bose on the front, you simply have crappy, VERY overrated speakers. As everyone says, "All highs and no lows...Must be Bose"!

This needs to be released in Blue Rey.

Let me help you out with this one too...Bluray On a more serious note, I find it VERY odd that these guys pat themselves on the back about this state of the art high definition camera the concert was recorded in (the booklet mentions this) and then release it in crappy standard definition!

Arnel, is still having diction issue's, much noticed to me, in Only the Young. He sings the songs very well, better than anyone before him not named Steve Perry, but his diction is what's giving me a headache.

His diction issues are pretty bad and I suspect will never go away. It's always been interesting to me that some guys with accents (think Joe Elliot, Phil Collins, and the list goes on and on and on and on...) never have any accent while singing while Arnel's accent is quite glaring. On another note, does anyone know why he pulled out his in-ear monitors during "After All These Years" and left them out, even while changing clothes? Doesn't he simply hear the mix of the instruments in those monitors or am I missing something?

[YoungJRNY]

Also, the closeups of Cain need to be taken out from ANY DVD THAT THEY DO FROM HERE ON OUT. He looks bored to the point of death. He is, to what it seems to be, day dreaming on some points of the concert to where he makes you want to yawn uncontrollably throughout. His "backup vocals" are weak as hell too and you could just tell he wants to get the hell out of there the second he hits the stage. You know, there IS a thing called, pretending.

[YoungJRNY]

The sound quality wasn't that great also, and I have bow's speakers set up.

Here is a tip for you dude...If your speakers actually say "bow's" on the front, you've been ripped off If they say Bose on the front, you simply have crappy, VERY overrated speakers. As everyone says, "All highs and no lows...Must be Bose"!

This needs to be released in Blue Rey.

Let me help you out with this one too...Bluray On a more serious note, I find it VERY odd that these guys pat themselves on the back about this state of the art high definition camera the concert was recorded in (the booklet mentions this) and then release it in crappy standard definition!

Arnel, is still having diction issue's, much noticed to me, in Only the Young. He sings the songs very well, better than anyone before him not named Steve Perry, but his diction is what's giving me a headache.

His diction issues are pretty bad and I suspect will never go away. It's always been interesting to me that some guys with accents (think Joe Elliot, Phil Collins, and the list goes on and on and on and on...) never have any accent while singing while Arnel's accent is quite glaring. On another note, does anyone know why he pulled out his in-ear monitors during "After All These Years" and left them out, even while changing clothes? Doesn't he simply hear the mix of the instruments in those monitors or am I missing something?

You can pick at my spelling all you want, I'm not re-reading to see mistakes. My eyes are crossing as it is and my bed's my top priority at the moment. You are one big boner, John. One big boner.

[Ehwmatt]

The sound quality wasn't that great also, and I have bow's speakers set up.

Here is a tip for you dude...If your speakers actually say "bow's" on the front, you've been ripped off If they say Bose on the front, you simply have crappy, VERY overrated speakers. As everyone says, "All highs and no lows...Must be Bose"!

This needs to be released in Blue Rey.

Let me help you out with this one too...Bluray On a more serious note, I find it VERY odd that these guys pat themselves on the back about this state of the art high definition camera the concert was recorded in (the booklet mentions this) and then release it in crappy standard definition!

Arnel, is still having diction issue's, much noticed to me, in Only the Young. He sings the songs very well, better than anyone before him not named Steve Perry, but his diction is what's giving me a headache.

His diction issues are pretty bad and I suspect will never go away. It's always been interesting to me that some guys with accents (think Joe Elliot, Phil Collins, and the list goes on and on and on and on...) never have any accent while singing while Arnel's accent is quite glaring. On another note, does anyone know why he pulled out his in-ear monitors during "After All These Years" and left them out, even while changing clothes? Doesn't he simply hear the mix of the instruments in those monitors or am I missing something?

I really don't think it's ever going to go away either. I gave him a complete, 100% free pass on this for the first year or so. I just can't stomach the fact that it hasn't improved ONE bit, and if anything, has gotten worse since he joined the band. It's turning me off quick in a big way.

[YoungJRNY]

The sound quality wasn't that great also, and I have bow's speakers set up.

Here is a tip for you dude...If your speakers actually say "bow's" on the front, you've been ripped off If they say Bose on the front, you simply have crappy, VERY overrated speakers. As everyone says, "All highs and no lows...Must be Bose"!

This needs to be released in Blue Rey.

Let me help you out with this one too...Bluray On a more serious note, I find it VERY odd that these guys pat themselves on the back about this state of the art high definition camera the concert was recorded in (the booklet mentions this) and then release it in crappy standard definition!

Arnel, is still having diction issue's, much noticed to me, in Only the Young. He sings the songs very well, better than anyone before him not named Steve Perry, but his diction is what's giving me a headache.

His diction issues are pretty bad and I suspect will never go away. It's always been interesting to me that some guys with accents (think Joe Elliot, Phil Collins, and the list goes on and on and on and on...) never have any accent while singing while Arnel's accent is quite glaring. On another note, does anyone know why he pulled out his in-ear monitors during "After All These Years" and left them out, even while changing clothes? Doesn't he simply hear the mix of the instruments in those monitors or am I missing something?

I really don't think it's ever going to go away either. I gave him a complete, 100% free pass on this for the first year or so. I just can't stomach the fact that it hasn't improved ONE bit, and if anything, has gotten worse since he joined the band. It's turning me off quick in a big way.

During the coarse of the year, youtube video's (high quality ones by the way) have shown during the timeline of this tour & had me convinced that Arnel lost the accent and that he truly was on his way to fixing up a glaring problem that upset most of the fanbase. Watching him on this DVD leaves me disappointed in a way and leads me to believe that this probably won't be fixed, since like I said earlier in my post, is the way the man sings. You can get all the coaching you want, but when he's out there in crunch time and getting lost in the crowd and music, he will still sing them the way his brain is use to singing them. It'll be interesting to see how he handles this as time goes on, and if he can actually nail this weakness that he has so few of. I don't mean to be too harsh, because I let it go, but it's just something that needs to be addressed.

On the bright side, as he crawls more into his comfort zone, his confidence and style propels him over the accent and he seems to lose it the majority of the night, when comparing his first year with the band. He can fix it, but don't expect it to be a complete wash when live on stage, and I can live with that. He is one helluva vocalist and performer and that's all I ask for. He's doing a PHENOMENAL job and it makes me looking forward to many years of Journey.

[RumTumJM]

The big things that annoyed me are the almost total lack of backing vocals. I feel for certain songs, they are ESSENTIAL. Also, songs like Wildest Dreams, you can barely, if at all, hear the piano. That intro does not sound right without the piano.

I hope you will all tell me this is an audio setting issue, but I have a feeling it is not.

[steveo777]

The big things that annoyed me are the almost total lack of backing vocals. I feel for certain songs, they are ESSENTIAL. Also, songs like Wildest Dreams, you can barely, if at all, hear the piano. That intro does not sound right without the piano.

I hope you will all tell me this is an audio setting issue, but I have a feeling it is not.

I don't know if it's an audio setting issue or not. The first time I watched it was on a standard 38" plasma tv, using the tv's own sound system, which is hardly a way to get optimal sound. The second time I watched it was on computer while listening to it thru Klipsch Promedia 5.1 system. I thought it sounded great and the backing vocals were definitely heard in the mix. I did mess around with my equalizer to get the sound the way I wanted to hear it. Tonight I'm gonna make an audio only CD and see how it sounds in the car.

[Escape Artist]

Got mine yesterday and watched both discs. I thought it was a great show, particularly Neal, Arnel and Deeno. Looking forward to the NEW material!

[steveo777]

From what I've read it was a tough gig to pull off. The humidity over there in the Phils is just insane and there were all kinds of tuning issues. It must have been murder on the 4 band members who are not aclimated. March and April over there are just brutal as I personally experienced in 1991 when I was there for a month.

[la michelona]

The sound quality wasn't that great also, and I have bow's speakers set up.

Here is a tip for you dude...If your speakers actually say "bow's" on the front, you've been ripped off If they say Bose on the front, you simply have crappy, VERY overrated speakers. As everyone says, "All highs and no lows...Must be Bose"!

This needs to be released in Blue Rey.

Let me help you out with this one too...Bluray On a more serious note, I find it VERY odd that these guys pat themselves on the back about this state of the art high definition camera the concert was recorded in (the booklet mentions this) and then release it in crappy standard definition!

Arnel, is still having diction issue's, much noticed to me, in Only the Young. He sings the songs very well, better than anyone before him not named Steve Perry, but his diction is what's giving me a headache.

His diction issues are pretty bad and I suspect will never go away. It's always been interesting to me that some guys with accents (think Joe Elliot, Phil Collins, and the list goes on and on and on and on...) never have any accent while singing while Arnel's accent is quite glaring. On another note, does anyone know why he pulled out his in-ear monitors during "After All These Years" and left them out, even while changing clothes? Doesn't he simply hear the mix of the instruments in those monitors or am I missing something?

You are aware that you speak with an accent as well, aren't you?

[steveo777]

The sound quality wasn't that great also, and I have bow's speakers set up.

Here is a tip for you dude...If your speakers actually say "bow's" on the front, you've been ripped off If they say Bose on the front, you simply have crappy, VERY overrated speakers. As everyone says, "All highs and no lows...Must be Bose"!

This needs to be released in Blue Rey.

Let me help you out with this one too...Bluray On a more serious note, I find it VERY odd that these guys pat themselves on the back about this state of the art high definition camera the concert was recorded in (the booklet mentions this) and then release it in crappy standard definition!

Arnel, is still having diction issue's, much noticed to me, in Only the Young. He sings the songs very well, better than anyone before him not named Steve Perry, but his diction is what's giving me a headache.

His diction issues are pretty bad and I suspect will never go away. It's always been interesting to me that some guys with accents (think Joe Elliot, Phil Collins, and the list goes on and on and on and on...) never have any accent while singing while Arnel's accent is quite glaring. On another note, does anyone know why he pulled out his in-ear monitors during "After All These Years" and left them out, even while changing clothes? Doesn't he simply hear the mix of the instruments in those monitors or am I missing something?

You are aware that you speak with an accent as well, aren't you?

LOL My wife says when I drink I have diction issues.

[SultanOfSwing]

I got thru the Walmart BS and walked out with it from the very first store I checked. How about others?

I suspect there are many who could not get it yet and will try again next week.

Haven't got mine yet, don't have time to go to WalMart, possibly this weekend.

[Ligzig]

I don't have it yet, not in any real hurry really.

I kinda got burned out, but I still support this line up.

[YoungJRNY]

For the record, I had the opportunity last night to blast the Manila DVD as loud as I wanted and completely get lost in the music with me, myself, and I. Let me tell you, louder music, in a deserted area, by yourself is the way to go and it gives off the whole concept of a rock concert, the way it's supposed to be. It brought me back like I was first row all over again.

Completely throwing the critique away, I couldn't help but love this DVD better than the first time, and it's continuing to grow on me. At first you kind of nit pick it just to find things you don't like, even when there's nothing there, but I must say that the band literally gave me chills and the energy I felt during the set list made me feel like I could of ran a marathon. Neal is absolutely breath taking in his work, and Deen is the best in the business. Arnel is flat out AMAZING and the energy he possesses is something you could never take away from him, and I feel beyond thrilledto follow such a band like this. I left my living room last night in a better mood, and on cloud nine because of their music. It's nights like this that make you want to flat out rock, and this DVD took me there. My love for Journey music continues to grow and I don't know if that's a good thing or bad thing.

Whenever the next get together is, sign me up! I'm about ready!

[Ehwmatt]

For the record, I had the opportunity last night to blast the Manila DVD as loud as I wanted and completely get lost in the music with me, myself, and I. Let me tell you, louder music, in a deserted area, by yourself is the way to go and it gives off the whole concept of a rock concert, the way it's supposed to be. It brought me back like I was first row all over again.

Completely throwing the critique away, I couldn't help but love this DVD better than the first time, and it's continuing to grow on me. At first you kind of nit pick it just to find things you don't like, even when there's nothing there, but I must say that the band literally gave me chills and the energy I felt during the set list made me feel like I could of ran a marathon. Neal is absolutely breath taking in his work, and Deen is the best in the business. Arnel is flat out AMAZING and the energy he possesses is something you could never take away from him, and I feel beyond thrilledto follow such a band like this. I left my living room last night in a better mood, and on cloud nine because of their music. It's nights like this that make you want to flat out rock, and this DVD took me there. My love for Journey music continues to grow and I don't know if that's a good thing or bad thing.

Whenever the next get together is, sign me up! I'm about ready!

I gave disc 2 another whirl last night and I'm sorry to say it underwhelmed me once again. Arnel is really losing his voice by this point and he's squawking all over the place, cracking, rasping, straining (see: Escape "I'm on my Wayyy-yyyy", Be Good To Yourself, all of DSB, particularly the beginning and the whole adlibbed outro). I did enjoy TDTWT a lot better this time around.

[YoungJRNY]

For the record, I had the opportunity last night to blast the Manila DVD as loud as I wanted and completely get lost in the music with me, myself, and I. Let me tell you, louder music, in a deserted area, by yourself is the way to go and it gives off the whole concept of a rock concert, the way it's supposed to be. It brought me back like I was first row all over again.

Completely throwing the critique away, I couldn't help but love this DVD better than the first time, and it's continuing to grow on me. At first you kind of nit pick it just to find things you don't like, even when there's nothing there, but I must say that the band literally gave me chills and the energy I felt during the set list made me feel like I could of ran a marathon. Neal is absolutely breath taking in his work, and Deen is the best in the business. Arnel is flat out AMAZING and the energy he possesses is something you could never take away from him, and I feel beyond thrilledto follow such a band like this. I left my living room last night in a better mood, and on cloud nine because of their music. It's nights like this that make you want to flat out rock, and this DVD took me there. My love for Journey music continues to grow and I don't know if that's a good thing or bad thing.

Whenever the next get together is, sign me up! I'm about ready!

I gave disc 2 another whirl last night and I'm sorry to say it underwhelmed me once again. Arnel is really losing his voice by this point and he's squawking all over the place, cracking, rasping, straining (see: Escape "I'm on my Wayyy-yyyy", Be Good To Yourself, all of DSB, particularly the beginning and the whole adlibbed outro). I did enjoy TDTWT a lot better this time around.

I've come to learn that straining is going to be apart of any performance now since these notes are meant for a vocalist that owns power, and Arnel has & OWNS that. Arnel is known at times to scream and put major stress on his vocal chords (The end to Separate Ways). I for one, don't mind that rasp as it gives the songs it's own definition, and there's a difference between good rasp and bad rasp in my opinion. There ARE points, esp in BGTY and ESCAPE where it IS more noticeable, but the overall performances I can't help but be happy with.

I actually thought he sounded good on DSB and sang most of the tracks with a clear, more balanced tone & voice. There's a lot of things I see what you're seeing, but I guess everyone hears certain things and there's more that meets the ear with judgment calls.I liked the performance better the second time around, esp after comparing it to the Vegas 2008 DVD as a whole when actually sitting down and watching both one after another. It's night and day for AP IMO.

[Jana]

For the record, I had the opportunity last night to blast the Manila DVD as loud as I wanted and completely get lost in the music with me, myself, and I. Let me tell you, louder music, in a deserted area, by yourself is the way to go and it gives off the whole concept of a rock concert, the way it's supposed to be. It brought me back like I was first row all over again.

Completely throwing the critique away, I couldn't help but love this DVD better than the first time, and it's continuing to grow on me. At first you kind of nit pick it just to find things you don't like, even when there's nothing there, but I must say that the band literally gave me chills and the energy I felt during the set list made me feel like I could of ran a marathon. Neal is absolutely breath taking in his work, and Deen is the best in the business. Arnel is flat out AMAZING and the energy he possesses is something you could never take away from him, and I feel beyond thrilledto follow such a band like this. I left my living room last night in a better mood, and on cloud nine because of their music. It's nights like this that make you want to flat out rock, and this DVD took me there. My love for Journey music continues to grow and I don't know if that's a good thing or bad thing.

Whenever the next get together is, sign me up! I'm about ready!

I agree.

[Jana]

Okay. Here's my review: First, a few superficial things. I agree about the muted audience response. Bad decision. They should, at least, let us hear the thunderous applause at the end of songs even if he mutes it for the actual performance. Weird to see so many people clapping and waving their arms and hear a dulled sound. I could have forgiven Jon his bored looks at times if he had worn a black T-shirt and shown his arms, which are his best feature. The shirt he wore looked like he was in his garage working on something..

I didn't mind that the video was a little dark. I really liked the moody look of the concert, with the purple and blue lights in the back. This comment is expected by me, but Neal looks better in that concert than he has the whole last two years, really fantastic. A tan suits him. And these guys were sweating profusely by the second song. I remember one of the Filipinos on his site talking about that time of year and how hot and humid it was in the spring there when it was announced it was going to be outdoors.

I loved the catwalk. Wasn't sure about it when I watched poor youtube videos, but it really was a great touch for Arnel and also Neal coming out to the audience. And there was Rip time after time. He should definitely have been listed in the credits.

It really was Neal's night in this concert in so many ways. He poured so much energy into his peformance all night and his solos rocked. He was on fire. The whole band was (well, except for not much expression from Jon ). Deen was a powerhouse.

Re Arnel: I thought his diction problems are greatly reduced. It was a nonissue for me. And this guy works his ass off on stage. To see his growth on stage as a performer from the last DVD, when he was brand new with them, to a year later on this DVD is amazing. He really brought it in this concert and then some. I've said it b/f but I will say it again, for me he is a joy to watch on stage and he really brought such great energy to the stage.

Now to the setlist. It started off shaky for me. Immediately I noticed the graveliness in Arnel's voice in NWA, just not his best on that song. Only the Young, which he nailed in Orlando and his voice was really clear, was very gravelly in Manila in places. Good performance on ATL. SIL I can't remember. Maybe that's the one not so good on in parts, but, truthfully, I can't remember. I would have to see it again. But from then on this concert took off as it built in momentum with great songs and great performances all night and Arnel's vocals really strong. I loved it. The song placement in the setlist was near perfect. KOR was great to hear with Deen. Arnel's vocals were really great on After All These Years. CFTB was truly one of the best of the night for me. The band really rocked in WITS. Loved Arnel on Lights. Still They Ride with Deen one of the highlights for me b/c I love that song. With Neal's extended solo Open Arms was great. Arnel always great on that song. Mother Father should be in every show. Deen is the man. Great decision afterwards to move into Wildest Dream and keep up the momentum. I agree with YoungJRYNY, When You Love A Woman was one of Arnel's best performances of the night. Superb. Arnel always excels on SW and the extended version with Neal's solo really made this song.

What I Needed, truly one of the absolute best songs of the night. Between Arnel's powerful soaring vocals and Neal's exquisite solo it was almost rock opera.

Loved Edge of the Blade (another highlight for me.), Where Did I Lose Your Love, Escape. And, of course, Faithfully. I don't notice a drag that bothered me. Loved it.

I thought Arnel was really good on Don't Stop Believing and actually didn't mind the added part. A lot of energy with the crowd. Neal's solo into LTS is what makes a Journey concert and I thought Arnel did a great job on it. I really enjoyed Turn Down The World Tonight, really strong vocals and melody, and really liked where they placed it in the setlist. BGTY is just a great high energy ending to the concert and just a great jam for the band and a chance for Neal to shine.

[Rick]

[rant] As much as AP has done for this band, he should be paid like an equal member. That really gripes my ass. I know he makes a good buck doing what he's doing, but for fucks sake, he's absolutely the reason they have had this resurgence of fame. His story, his voice, and his stage presence are all amazing. Waiting to hear the "pop" sound when NOMOTA pulls their heads out of their collective asses. [/rant]

[Jana]

[rant] As much as AP has done for this band, he should be paid like an equal member. That really gripes my ass. I know he makes a good buck doing what he's doing, but for fucks sake, he's absolutely the reason they have had this resurgence of fame. His story, his voice, and his stage presence are all amazing. Waiting to hear the "pop" sound when NOMOTA pulls their heads out of their collective asses. [/rant]

I believe he is paid as an equal member starting this year, 2009 tour. Neal said it, I'm pretty sure in his blog once addressing something said. And I believe Arnel said something also, but not sure. But if not, I'm with you.

[Rick]

[rant] As much as AP has done for this band, he should be paid like an equal member. That really gripes my ass. I know he makes a good buck doing what he's doing, but for fucks sake, he's absolutely the reason they have had this resurgence of fame. His story, his voice, and his stage presence are all amazing. Waiting to hear the "pop" sound when NOMOTA pulls their heads out of their collective asses. [/rant]

I believe he is paid as an equal member starting this year, 2009 tour. Neal said it, I'm pretty sure in his blog once addressing something said. And I believe Arnel said something also, but not sure. But if not, I'm with you.

Cool.

TDTWT is fantastic on this DVD. This one is a bitch to do live for the backing vocals, but they did well here, if it's not augmented. Arnel tore this song up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_q-xRw8J4Y

[Rick]

Rip got a lot of time in this DVD. He's in every song. Good for him, he's spent a ton seeing this band these last couple of years.

[Jana]

[rant] As much as AP has done for this band, he should be paid like an equal member. That really gripes my ass. I know he makes a good buck doing what he's doing, but for fucks sake, he's absolutely the reason they have had this resurgence of fame. His story, his voice, and his stage presence are all amazing. Waiting to hear the "pop" sound when NOMOTA pulls their heads out of their collective asses. [/rant]

I believe he is paid as an equal member starting this year, 2009 tour. Neal said it, I'm pretty sure in his blog once addressing something said. And I believe Arnel said something also, but not sure. But if not, I'm with you.

Cool.

TDTWT is fantastic on this DVD. This one is a bitch to do live for the backing vocals, but they did well here, if it's not augmented. Arnel tore this song up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_q-xRw8J4Y

Arnel killed on every Revelation song, all seven. I can't think of one that his vocals weren't spot on. Re-Edit. He wasn't spot on with Never Walk Away. First show of the night and he started off rough. But the other six I loved.

[Rick]

[rant] As much as AP has done for this band, he should be paid like an equal member. That really gripes my ass. I know he makes a good buck doing what he's doing, but for fucks sake, he's absolutely the reason they have had this resurgence of fame. His story, his voice, and his stage presence are all amazing. Waiting to hear the "pop" sound when NOMOTA pulls their heads out of their collective asses. [/rant]

I believe he is paid as an equal member starting this year, 2009 tour. Neal said it, I'm pretty sure in his blog once addressing something said. And I believe Arnel said something also, but not sure. But if not, I'm with you.

Cool.

TDTWT is fantastic on this DVD. This one is a bitch to do live for the backing vocals, but they did well here, if it's not augmented. Arnel tore this song up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_q-xRw8J4Y

Arnel killed on every Revelation song, all seven. I can't think of one that his vocals weren't spot on.

And Neal killed on this one. Arnel too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKUnMOf5Efk

[Jana]

[rant] As much as AP has done for this band, he should be paid like an equal member. That really gripes my ass. I know he makes a good buck doing what he's doing, but for fucks sake, he's absolutely the reason they have had this resurgence of fame. His story, his voice, and his stage presence are all amazing. Waiting to hear the "pop" sound when NOMOTA pulls their heads out of their collective asses. [/rant]

I believe he is paid as an equal member starting this year, 2009 tour. Neal said it, I'm pretty sure in his blog once addressing something said. And I believe Arnel said something also, but not sure. But if not, I'm with you.

Cool.

TDTWT is fantastic on this DVD. This one is a bitch to do live for the backing vocals, but they did well here, if it's not augmented. Arnel tore this song up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_q-xRw8J4Y

Arnel killed on every Revelation song, all seven. I can't think of one that his vocals weren't spot on.

And Neal killed on this one. Arnel too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKUnMOf5Efk

Didn't he, though? Talk about soulful.

[steveo777]

[rant] As much as AP has done for this band, he should be paid like an equal member. That really gripes my ass. I know he makes a good buck doing what he's doing, but for fucks sake, he's absolutely the reason they have had this resurgence of fame. His story, his voice, and his stage presence are all amazing. Waiting to hear the "pop" sound when NOMOTA pulls their heads out of their collective asses. [/rant]

I believe he is paid as an equal member starting this year, 2009 tour. Neal said it, I'm pretty sure in his blog once addressing something said. And I believe Arnel said something also, but not sure. But if not, I'm with you.

Cool.

TDTWT is fantastic on this DVD. This one is a bitch to do live for the backing vocals, but they did well here, if it's not augmented. Arnel tore this song up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_q-xRw8J4Y

Arnel killed on every Revelation song, all seven. I can't think of one that his vocals weren't spot on.

And Neal killed on this one. Arnel too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKUnMOf5Efk

I love the Jam and think it's really cool the way Neal is out there playing with the Audiance. You can tell they are eating right up.