Jana wrote:portland wrote:Yes Jason right back at ya!!! :
What did I do? I just figured a gay guy would appreciate Neal -- well, all gay guys except SteveW. He appreciates Jon.![]()
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Jana, you appreciate Neal, don't you?

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Jana wrote:portland wrote:Yes Jason right back at ya!!! :
What did I do? I just figured a gay guy would appreciate Neal -- well, all gay guys except SteveW. He appreciates Jon.![]()
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mdaemon wrote:Jana wrote:portland wrote:Yes Jason right back at ya!!! :
What did I do? I just figured a gay guy would appreciate Neal -- well, all gay guys except SteveW. He appreciates Jon.![]()
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Jana, you appreciate Neal, don't you?
jrny84 wrote:I have always wanted to see a full ROR concert dvd released.
Liquid_Drummer wrote:jrny84 wrote:I have always wanted to see a full ROR concert dvd released.
Raspy Steve with every song too fast and no groove ? Why ? I know we all have our favorite periods but damn that tour was lame. I have not heard a single boot that I liked from ROR. Steve sounds great singing the ror stuff and thats it. The whole feel of the band was gone and I dont think I could bear seeing Randy Jackson in spandex and Cain in that Neon paint splattered nightmare trench coat with matching Keytar. Please god no !
Houston 1980 would be so fucking cool.
Liquid_Drummer wrote:jrny84 wrote:I have always wanted to see a full ROR concert dvd released.
Raspy Steve with every song too fast and no groove ? Why ? I know we all have our favorite periods but damn that tour was lame. I have not heard a single boot that I liked from ROR. Steve sounds great singing the ror stuff and thats it. The whole feel of the band was gone and I dont think I could bear seeing Randy Jackson in spandex and Cain in that Neon paint splattered nightmare trench coat with matching Keytar. Please god no !
Houston 1980 would be so fucking cool.
jrny84 wrote:Liquid_Drummer wrote:jrny84 wrote:I have always wanted to see a full ROR concert dvd released.
Raspy Steve with every song too fast and no groove ? Why ? I know we all have our favorite periods but damn that tour was lame. I have not heard a single boot that I liked from ROR. Steve sounds great singing the ror stuff and thats it. The whole feel of the band was gone and I dont think I could bear seeing Randy Jackson in spandex and Cain in that Neon paint splattered nightmare trench coat with matching Keytar. Please god no !
Houston 1980 would be so fucking cool.
Already have an escape era dvd, the Houston show, and its good, but the setlist isnt that impressive. The vocals are the best from Steve in the early eighties, but 1980?? Thats even b4 escape...they had like no hits b4 then and really not that impressive of a setlist. No frontiers or ROR songs either. I personally like the sound of Perry's voice on the Mountain Aire shows where he is singing "Girl Cant Help It", and "Ill be alright without you". The mountain aire ROR show would definetly have a great setlist featuring songs from every album, but Trial by fire. Plus the production quality, stage setup, and the energy the guys had when playing at mountain aire is awesome to watch.
Liquid_Drummer wrote:jrny84 wrote:I have always wanted to see a full ROR concert dvd released.
Raspy Steve with every song too fast and no groove ? Why ? I know we all have our favorite periods but damn that tour was lame. I have not heard a single boot that I liked from ROR. Steve sounds great singing the ror stuff and thats it. The whole feel of the band was gone and I dont think I could bear seeing Randy Jackson in spandex and Cain in that Neon paint splattered nightmare trench coat with matching Keytar. Please god no !
Houston 1980 would be so fucking cool.
Ehwmatt wrote:jrny84 wrote:Liquid_Drummer wrote:jrny84 wrote:I have always wanted to see a full ROR concert dvd released.
Raspy Steve with every song too fast and no groove ? Why ? I know we all have our favorite periods but damn that tour was lame. I have not heard a single boot that I liked from ROR. Steve sounds great singing the ror stuff and thats it. The whole feel of the band was gone and I dont think I could bear seeing Randy Jackson in spandex and Cain in that Neon paint splattered nightmare trench coat with matching Keytar. Please god no !
Houston 1980 would be so fucking cool.
Already have an escape era dvd, the Houston show, and its good, but the setlist isnt that impressive. The vocals are the best from Steve in the early eighties, but 1980?? Thats even b4 escape...they had like no hits b4 then and really not that impressive of a setlist. No frontiers or ROR songs either. I personally like the sound of Perry's voice on the Mountain Aire shows where he is singing "Girl Cant Help It", and "Ill be alright without you". The mountain aire ROR show would definetly have a great setlist featuring songs from every album, but Trial by fire. Plus the production quality, stage setup, and the energy the guys had when playing at mountain aire is awesome to watch.
Yeah, for as much love as Houston 81 gets, I really barely watch it. The setlist is just nothing special.
Saint John wrote:Something from Frontiers would be nice. Anything pre-Escape is just ear piercing garbage, we already have an awesome Escape DVD, ROR, with the exception of the actual ROR album songs, was Perry singing like his crotch was on fire and a TBF DVD would be like Helen Keller putting on headphones.
Chubby321 wrote:My 2 cents on Dixie Highway......
In future concerts, I hope Arnel will take on this song but with more grit, just to give the song more muscle.
IMHO, I think Arnel is giving Journey rock songs a heavier sound than Perry. I know the Perry fans prefer his sound better, and that's where we differ. I like the wholeness and the grit Arnel is offering to the songs.
Ehwmatt wrote:Dixie Highway blows they better never play it live again ever.
Do somethin good like Do You Recall
Saint John wrote:ROR, with the exception of the actual ROR album songs, was Perry singing like his crotch was on fire
Jana wrote:Chubby321 wrote:My 2 cents on Dixie Highway......
In future concerts, I hope Arnel will take on this song but with more grit, just to give the song more muscle.
IMHO, I think Arnel is giving Journey rock songs a heavier sound than Perry. I know the Perry fans prefer his sound better, and that's where we differ. I like the wholeness and the grit Arnel is offering to the songs.
Well, I wouldn't mind seeing Arnel try Dixie Highway since I don't like Perry's vocals on it from the early days.
But re the rest of your comment, Chubby, what you don't understand is from album to album his voice was changing and there was different depths to his voice all the way through. These clips are from his earliest days that SJ was talking about when his voice was much higher. Example below Send Her My Love later album, the sound Arnel tries to stay so closely to. You can't get the appreciation for the different shades of his voice and delivery of songs unless you really owned the music they put out over the years and didn't just check songs out on Youtube with average sound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ1eIsiwcFY
Chubby321 wrote:Jana wrote:Chubby321 wrote:My 2 cents on Dixie Highway......
In future concerts, I hope Arnel will take on this song but with more grit, just to give the song more muscle.
IMHO, I think Arnel is giving Journey rock songs a heavier sound than Perry. I know the Perry fans prefer his sound better, and that's where we differ. I like the wholeness and the grit Arnel is offering to the songs.
Well, I wouldn't mind seeing Arnel try Dixie Highway since I don't like Perry's vocals on it from the early days.
But re the rest of your comment, Chubby, what you don't understand is from album to album his voice was changing and there was different depths to his voice all the way through. These clips are from his earliest days that SJ was talking about when his voice was much higher. Example below Send Her My Love later album, the sound Arnel tries to stay so closely to. You can't get the appreciation for the different shades of his voice and delivery of songs unless you really owned the music they put out over the years and didn't just check songs out on Youtube with average sound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ1eIsiwcFY
I learned that from reading here. But there's a reason why I did not quote anybody. I was giving my opinion on the song. I am not criticizing Perry's voice by any means. I just believe that Arnel has more grit in his voice than Perry. Some people can't tell the difference but I could, even compared to the song you just posted, SHML. That's all.
steveo777 wrote:Chubby321 wrote:Jana wrote:Chubby321 wrote:My 2 cents on Dixie Highway......
In future concerts, I hope Arnel will take on this song but with more grit, just to give the song more muscle.
IMHO, I think Arnel is giving Journey rock songs a heavier sound than Perry. I know the Perry fans prefer his sound better, and that's where we differ. I like the wholeness and the grit Arnel is offering to the songs.
Well, I wouldn't mind seeing Arnel try Dixie Highway since I don't like Perry's vocals on it from the early days.
But re the rest of your comment, Chubby, what you don't understand is from album to album his voice was changing and there was different depths to his voice all the way through. These clips are from his earliest days that SJ was talking about when his voice was much higher. Example below Send Her My Love later album, the sound Arnel tries to stay so closely to. You can't get the appreciation for the different shades of his voice and delivery of songs unless you really owned the music they put out over the years and didn't just check songs out on Youtube with average sound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ1eIsiwcFY
I learned that from reading here. But there's a reason why I did not quote anybody. I was giving my opinion on the song. I am not criticizing Perry's voice by any means. I just believe that Arnel has more grit in his voice than Perry. Some people can't tell the difference but I could, even compared to the song you just posted, SHML. That's all.
Arnel is 42 years old. At 42 Perry had some grit in his voice too...just sayin.It's a natural vocal aging process and Arnel will hopefully enjoy it while it lasts because age catches all. Well, almost everyone, except Anne Wilson, John Farnham...and perhaps Pat Benetar.
Chubby321 wrote:steveo777 wrote:Chubby321 wrote:Jana wrote:Chubby321 wrote:My 2 cents on Dixie Highway......
In future concerts, I hope Arnel will take on this song but with more grit, just to give the song more muscle.
IMHO, I think Arnel is giving Journey rock songs a heavier sound than Perry. I know the Perry fans prefer his sound better, and that's where we differ. I like the wholeness and the grit Arnel is offering to the songs.
Well, I wouldn't mind seeing Arnel try Dixie Highway since I don't like Perry's vocals on it from the early days.
But re the rest of your comment, Chubby, what you don't understand is from album to album his voice was changing and there was different depths to his voice all the way through. These clips are from his earliest days that SJ was talking about when his voice was much higher. Example below Send Her My Love later album, the sound Arnel tries to stay so closely to. You can't get the appreciation for the different shades of his voice and delivery of songs unless you really owned the music they put out over the years and didn't just check songs out on Youtube with average sound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ1eIsiwcFY
I learned that from reading here. But there's a reason why I did not quote anybody. I was giving my opinion on the song. I am not criticizing Perry's voice by any means. I just believe that Arnel has more grit in his voice than Perry. Some people can't tell the difference but I could, even compared to the song you just posted, SHML. That's all.
Arnel is 42 years old. At 42 Perry had some grit in his voice too...just sayin.It's a natural vocal aging process and Arnel will hopefully enjoy it while it lasts because age catches all. Well, almost everyone, except Anne Wilson, John Farnham...and perhaps Pat Benetar.
I still contend that Arnel has more grit in his voice (based from his PI albums or youtube vids) but it's not important to argue about.
I am sure he's enjoying this because singing is his passion. I agree about the age thing and this is also the reason why I want to enjoy him/the band as much. You'll never know what lies ahead.
Speaking of John Farham, I read that he's on the top two of Arnel's favorite.
Chubby321 wrote:
Speaking of John Farham, I read that he's on the top two of Arnel's favorite.
Ehwmatt wrote:Dixie Highway blows they better never play it live again ever.
Do somethin good like Do You Recall
steveo777 wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Dixie Highway blows they better never play it live again ever.
Do somethin good like Do You Recall
Um..I have to agree. For all that Journey has done right with songs over the years, I just have to say DH sucks. I never liked it at all, so in this case it's not the singer its the song!
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