Arnel Pineda flatly denies rumors that he is leaving Journey

[journeyrock]

Where theres smoke theres fire.....since this rumor is certainly out there maybe arnie boy was giving the "politcally correct" answer and the real blaze is still to come??? Shoot, one can wish....

Remember "Somewhere There's Hope"

[journeyrock]

STEVE PERRY IS COMING BACK TO JOURNEY!!!

YES!!! I NEVER BELIEVED IT COULD HAPPEN!!!!

dont we wish.

Every day I hear one or two Journey songs on the radio. Sometimes they'll even identify the artist as Steve Perry and Journey instead of just plain "Journey". It's like he never left. I wouldn't sweat it Gator, ain't nobody in the media forgetting about Perry when it comes to Journey. Someone did a google trend chart on Arnel's site. Every time the search engine increases/ spikes for Journey/Pineda it increases also for Perry as one usually doesn't get mentioned without the other. They're intertwined for life.

I still miss the voice live!!! and well for me that's Journey.

me too Portland...sigh!

[brywool]

Didn't he learn anything from the way Jeff was treated!!!

Soto was treated just fine.

Jews were also treated fine by Hitler

Jeez, gimme a break. Jeff wasn't what they wanted for whatever reason so they moved on. That happens in bands all the time. It happens in the job world. Jeff's great but his voice is not even close to what people think of when they think "Journey".

I don't get why the Jeff thing rubs people so wrong. Jeff's been in bands or the music biz all his life and replacing members is how things go. Anybody that's done the club circuit knows that. Sometimes players work out, sometimes they don't. To liken it to Jews and Hitler... gimme a break.

[Saint John]

If Perry's going to return it should be with Journey. Releasing another shitty album with 32 co-writers and half-ass musicians would be stupid. Perry, Schon and Cain all make each other great. That combination is deadly when it comes to lyrics, melodies and hooks.

[brywool]

If Perry's going to return it should be with Journey. Releasing another shitty album with 32 co-writers and half-ass musicians would be stupid. Perry, Schon and Cain all make each other great. That combination is deadly when it comes to lyrics, melodies and hooks.

If Perry, Schon, and Cain had half a brain- they'd WRITE together. Crap, if Perry can't tour anymore, write for Arnel's voice. Everybody wins. (well, except group 145)

[journeyrock]

If Perry's going to return it should be with Journey. Releasing another shitty album with 32 co-writers and half-ass musicians would be stupid. Perry, Schon and Cain all make each other great. That combination is deadly when it comes to lyrics, melodies and hooks.

again....AMEN!

[lights1961]

The relationship between Perry/Schon makes Waters/Gilmour look like BFFs. There's just no need to even try and fix it anymore. The Legacy is set in stone. Nothing either of the parties does from this point forward is going to change it.

EXACTLY. So why do people continue to beat the dead horse every day with every topic?? Get over it- it ain't happening. Move on. If you don't dig the new version, then why hang around, just to bitch about how it ain't "the good old days". Sounds like my freakin' grandparents.... "Dang, remember when gas was a nickel??? Wish that'd come back".

If people didn't hang around bitchin' about the good ol days then you wouldn't get to
come here and bitch about people bitchin' about the good 'l days!!! We make our
own fun around here!!

OLD TIME ROCK AND ROLL... the good old days were the best days!!

R

[Behshad]

Didn't he learn anything from the way Jeff was treated!!!

Soto was treated just fine.

Jews were also treated fine by Hitler

Jeez, gimme a break. Jeff wasn't what they wanted for whatever reason so they moved on. That happens in bands all the time. It happens in the job world. Jeff's great but his voice is not even close to what people think of when they think "Journey".

I don't get why the Jeff thing rubs people so wrong. Jeff's been in bands or the music biz all his life and replacing members is how things go. Anybody that's done the club circuit knows that. Sometimes players work out, sometimes they don't. To liken it to Jews and Hitler... gimme a break.

You want a break, show me your fucking neck , I'll give you a break Take a fucken joke , k?

[brywool]

You want a break, show me your fucking neck , I'll give you a break Take a fucken joke , k?

yeah, yer right. I withdraw that last comment. I know you didn't mean it like that literally. Rough week.
However, the deal with JSS is just so overblown by people. That crap happens in bands all the time.

[Jana]

If Perry's going to return it should be with Journey. Releasing another shitty album with 32 co-writers and half-ass musicians would be stupid. Perry, Schon and Cain all make each other great. That combination is deadly when it comes to lyrics, melodies and hooks.

[Behshad]

You want a break, show me your fucking neck , I'll give you a break Take a fucken joke , k?

yeah, yer right. I withdraw that last comment. I know you didn't mean it like that literally. Rough week.
However, the deal with JSS is just so overblown by people. That crap happens in bands all the time.

Like Saint John would say "the deal is overblown by a dozen people".,,,,

And youre correct,,, things like that DOES happen all the time in bands ,,, and no one is really questioning WHY Soto was let go..... they just couldve done it a bit classier, thats all.......

[perryswoman]

Can we please not discuss this topic after I just ot done having 10 white Russians? Damn I live for the day those 3 idiots kiss and make up and give us what us the fans want!!!! In the meantime I can deal with AP

[Voyager]

Hanggang sa marami na ngang tao ang nakapansin sa talento niya bilang mahusay na mang-aawit.

Na ako, mga gamit lang ang naapektuhan!!

[Voyager]

I think all this quite clearly points to SP returning to the band. One can come to no other logical conclusion...

Yeah, because it will be hard to get Augeri away from leading the New York Philharmonic Orchestra (not to mention he has made night manager at The Gap).

[etcetera]

Hanggang sa marami na ngang tao ang nakapansin sa talento niya bilang mahusay na mang-aawit.

Na ako, mga gamit lang ang naapektuhan!!

What's wrong?

[Esc]

If Perry's going to return it should be with Journey. Releasing another shitty album with 32 co-writers and half-ass musicians would be stupid. Perry, Schon and Cain all make each other great. That combination is deadly when it comes to lyrics, melodies and hooks.

If Perry, Schon, and Cain had half a brain- they'd WRITE together. Crap, if Perry can't tour anymore, write for Arnel's voice. Everybody wins. (well, except group 145)

i've said this once or twice, and someone here said it was a ridiculous idea.

[Don]

If Perry's going to return it should be with Journey. Releasing another shitty album with 32 co-writers and half-ass musicians would be stupid. Perry, Schon and Cain all make each other great. That combination is deadly when it comes to lyrics, melodies and hooks.

If Perry, Schon, and Cain had half a brain- they'd WRITE together. Crap, if Perry can't tour anymore, write for Arnel's voice. Everybody wins. (well, except group 145)

i've said this once or twice, and someone here said it was a ridiculous idea.

I'll say it, it's a ridiculous Idea. Has Perry ever written a song for another artist like Cain has? I think Perry writes stuff that he feels only he will be able to convey emotionally. I don't think writing music for someone that is supposed to be the new and improved version of himself is something he would even contemplate.

[Esc]

If Perry's going to return it should be with Journey. Releasing another shitty album with 32 co-writers and half-ass musicians would be stupid. Perry, Schon and Cain all make each other great. That combination is deadly when it comes to lyrics, melodies and hooks.

If Perry, Schon, and Cain had half a brain- they'd WRITE together. Crap, if Perry can't tour anymore, write for Arnel's voice. Everybody wins. (well, except group 145)

i've said this once or twice, and someone here said it was a ridiculous idea.

I'll say it, it's a ridiculous Idea. Has Perry ever written a song for another artist like Cain has? I think Perry writes stuff that he feels only he will be able to convey emotionally. I don't think writing music for someone that is supposed to be the new and improved version of himself is something he would even contemplate.

ah, so it all boils down as to how adamant perry really is?

[Don]

If Perry's going to return it should be with Journey. Releasing another shitty album with 32 co-writers and half-ass musicians would be stupid. Perry, Schon and Cain all make each other great. That combination is deadly when it comes to lyrics, melodies and hooks.

If Perry, Schon, and Cain had half a brain- they'd WRITE together. Crap, if Perry can't tour anymore, write for Arnel's voice. Everybody wins. (well, except group 145)

i've said this once or twice, and someone here said it was a ridiculous idea.

I'll say it, it's a ridiculous Idea. Has Perry ever written a song for another artist like Cain has? I think Perry writes stuff that he feels only he will be able to convey emotionally. I don't think writing music for someone that is supposed to be the new and improved version of himself is something he would even contemplate.

ah, so it all boils down as to how adamant perry really is?

I think Perry would make a bigger splash as a producer. Hell, he could be a soundtrack composer like Trevor Rabin. Trevor has probably gotten more accolades from his post Yes career doing movie scores than when he was an active particpant in the band.

[bluejeangirl76]

If Perry's going to return it should be with Journey. Releasing another shitty album with 32 co-writers and half-ass musicians would be stupid. Perry, Schon and Cain all make each other great. That combination is deadly when it comes to lyrics, melodies and hooks.

If Perry, Schon, and Cain had half a brain- they'd WRITE together. Crap, if Perry can't tour anymore, write for Arnel's voice. Everybody wins. (well, except group 145)

i've said this once or twice, and someone here said it was a ridiculous idea.

I'll say it, it's a ridiculous Idea. Has Perry ever written a song for another artist like Cain has? I think Perry writes stuff that he feels only he will be able to convey emotionally. I don't think writing music for someone that is supposed to be the new and improved version of himself is something he would even contemplate.

That's kind of like being asked to teach your ex's new girlfriend how he likes to be "serviced". Not happening.

[Jana]

If Perry's going to return it should be with Journey. Releasing another shitty album with 32 co-writers and half-ass musicians would be stupid. Perry, Schon and Cain all make each other great. That combination is deadly when it comes to lyrics, melodies and hooks.

If Perry, Schon, and Cain had half a brain- they'd WRITE together. Crap, if Perry can't tour anymore, write for Arnel's voice. Everybody wins. (well, except group 145)

i've said this once or twice, and someone here said it was a ridiculous idea.

I'll say it, it's a ridiculous Idea. Has Perry ever written a song for another artist like Cain has? I think Perry writes stuff that he feels only he will be able to convey emotionally. I don't think writing music for someone that is supposed to be the new and improved version of himself is something he would even contemplate.

That's kind of like being asked to teach your ex's new girlfriend how he likes to be "serviced". Not happening.

Considering he had 13 co-authors listed as credits for his songs on FTLOSM, he won't be writing a song alone for them anyway. I guess it took a village to create a "masterpiece" like FTLOSM.

[Don]

He did write Journey's first Top 20 hit by himself. Of course, the melody and a few of the lyrics do seem to to have a little bit in common with this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM-0NpvjDsU

[Jana]

He did write Journey's first Top 20 hit by himself. Of course, the melody and a few of the lyrics do seem to to have a little bit in common with this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM-0NpvjDsU

We're talking recent history. Journey would be better suited to have Sall and Martensson write them a song for Journey's next album similar to If I Fall, than Perry alone writing them a song. Actually, Perry might be better off asking Sall and Martensson to write for him, instead of his other gaggle of writers.

[Don]

They just need to have Boy Wonder write some songs with them. Kelly Hansen got wring credits on nine of the songs from Can't Slow Down, the first new album from Foreigner that he has been on, so let AP have a turn. Honestly, I think even if Pineda doesn't write a lick, his name will show up on a few of the credits just to throw a bone to his fans. It's not like it will take money out of anyone's pocket. AATY and WDILYL have completey disappeared from the radio while the old favorites are still going strong. No one's breaking the bank from songwriting credits off these new albums anytime soon.

As sappy as Open Arms is, being on two movie soundtracks, 30 million Journey albums and 20 million Mariah Carey albums has made it's two song writers a pretty penny. Those kind of sales just don't happen anymore.

[Jana]

They just need to have Boy Wonder write some songs with them. Kelly Hansen got wring credits on nine of the songs from Can't Slow Down, the first new album from Foreigner that he has been on, so let AP have a turn. Honestly, I think even if Pineda doesn't write a lick, his name will show up on a few of the credits just to throw a bone to his fans. It's not like it will take money out of anyone's pocket. AATY and WDILYL have completey disappeared from the radio while the old favorites are still going strong. No one's breaking the bank from songwriting credits off these new albums anytime soon.

As sappy as Open Arms is, being on two movie soundtracks, 30 million Journey albums and 20 million Mariah Carey albums has made it's two song writers a pretty penny. Those kind of sales just don't happen anymore.

So basically Arnel will never be able to win. If they have his name on some good songs, people will say Neal and Jon just did that out of the kindness of their heart. If they're bad songs and his name is on them, he will be blamed for the whole song. I can't wait for this new album.

[Don]

They just need to have Boy Wonder write some songs with them. Kelly Hansen got wring credits on nine of the songs from Can't Slow Down, the first new album from Foreigner that he has been on, so let AP have a turn. Honestly, I think even if Pineda doesn't write a lick, his name will show up on a few of the credits just to throw a bone to his fans. It's not like it will take money out of anyone's pocket. AATY and WDILYL have completey disappeared from the radio while the old favorites are still going strong. No one's breaking the bank from songwriting credits off these new albums anytime soon.

As sappy as Open Arms is, being on two movie soundtracks, 30 million Journey albums and 20 million Mariah Carey albums has made it's two song writers a pretty penny. Those kind of sales just don't happen anymore.

So basically Arnel will never be able to win. If they have his name on some good songs, people will say Neal and Jon just did that out of the kindness of their heart. If they're bad songs and his name is on them, he will be blamed for the whole song. I can't wait for this new album.

Correct.

It's so far in the future, who's to say this forum will still be around then? No one may even care enough to offer criticism at that point.

[ScarabGator]

The relationship between Perry/Schon makes Waters/Gilmour look like BFFs. There's just no need to even try and fix it anymore. The Legacy is set in stone. Nothing either of the parties does from this point forward is going to change it.

EXACTLY. So why do people continue to beat the dead horse every day with every topic?? Get over it- it ain't happening. Move on. If you don't dig the new version, then why hang around, just to bitch about how it ain't "the good old days"? Sounds like my freakin' grandparents.... "Dang, remember when gas was a nickel??? Wish that'd come back".

Let me clarify my opinions here: Its not that I believe Perry will ever be part of Journey again and I guess I just have to accept that but my main point from this topic is I dont like arnie boy in Journey. He doesnt fit. Plain and simple. Hes a talented dude but not for this band. Soto would be perfect. Augeri was great early on. Arnie boy is not. And if he rolls his eyes back in his head one more time while singing I really believe Im gonna yak.

[bluejeangirl76]

He did write Journey's first Top 20 hit by himself. Of course, the melody and a few of the lyrics do seem to to have a little bit in common with this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM-0NpvjDsU

You think?

[Since 78]

He did write Journey's first Top 20 hit by himself. Of course, the melody and a few of the lyrics do seem to to have a little bit in common with this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM-0NpvjDsU

You think?

I'm sure it just came to him in his sleep.

[Don]

He did write Journey's first Top 20 hit by himself. Of course, the melody and a few of the lyrics do seem to to have a little bit in common with this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM-0NpvjDsU

You think?

I'm sure it just came to him in his sleep.

Subliminal messages from Sammy.