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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:49 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
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Cincinnati at Pittsburgh - There is simply ZERO chance Shitsburgh is losing to the Bengals twice in one season. WILL NOT HAPPEN! I suspect this will be another hard fought game and that the Steelers pull it out by a touchdown. I see this one being lower scoring. (20-13 in favor of Steelers).




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It's not the first prediction I've been wrong about and won't be the last. I honestly didn't expect Pittsburgh to get slapped around so much. I'm not sold on the Cincinatti offense but their defense looks VERY good, to my eyes. Congrats on the win and see you in January. As you probably already know from the tone of my postings on this board, I LOATHE Shitsburgh and all of their big-mouthed, whiny, bitch fans, so I can assure you that I'm not shedding any tears right now! That said, the Steelers aren't going away. They have the weakest road schedule in the entire NFL for the remainder of the season, so that will pretty much guarantee that they'll win their share of games!


The Steelers do have a MUCH MUCH tougher schedule from here on out compared to Cinci. We got Baltimore twice (I think they will split) Green Bay, and Miami during that stretch. No gimmie's. We won't go away but it'll be a tough week to week basis from here on out. You'll know what the Steelers are made of throughout the rest of the season and they will need to prove to everybody again if they are contenders. It's up to them. Been there done this. Division is not out of reach but the window is closing. Long season.


I'll be shocked if you guys lose to the Ravens either time. I just don't believe they are very good at all. But, things can change. Teams like Green Bay and Miami are always dangerous, as they are likely to be fighting and clawing for a playoff spot every game out from this point...


It doesn't matter if Baltimore is winless at this point, these division matchups are always brutal and each team knows it's others tendencies. Even in the past where Baltimore wasn't that great and the Steelers were playoff contenders, it took all we had to take it to them. That's just the way it'll always be. We are due for a split, esp since going 3-0 against them last season. I expect it to be equally tough, if not tougher. I hope you right, but it'll be a tough 2 game matchup no matter who wins.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:50 am

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The Steelers do have a MUCH MUCH tougher schedule from here on out compared to Cinci. We got Baltimore twice (I think they will split) Green Bay, and Miami during that stretch. No gimmie's.


If you read what I wrote...I said ROAD schedule. This isn't an opinion...It's a fact, based on their opponents record. Baltimore is nothing special and is barely a .500 team. The Steelers have Baltimore, Kansas City, Cleveland, and Miami (who struggled to beat a pathetic Tampa team on a last second field goal today) on the road, and Oakland at home. That's not a juggernaut schedule no matter how you slice or dice it. Honestly, I fully expect the Steelers not to lose more than 2 of their remaining games, because there are a lot of layups on that schedule!


I was just speaking overall comparing the schedules to that of Cinci. But we'll see how they respond and it's all about responding at this point.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:56 am

Fact Finder wrote:Remaining Schedules

Cincy

@ Oakland
Cleveland
Detroit
@Minnesota
@San Diego
Kansas City
NY Jets

Pittsburgh

@Kansas City
@Baltimore
Oakland
@Cleveland
Green Bay
Baltimore
@Miami


On paper, it's hard to see either team losing more than two of those games.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:15 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:Remaining Schedules

Cincy

@ Oakland
Cleveland
Detroit
@Minnesota
@San Diego
Kansas City
NY Jets

Pittsburgh

@Kansas City
@Baltimore
Oakland
@Cleveland
Green Bay
Baltimore
@Miami


On paper, it's hard to see either team losing more than two of those games.


Each team has their shares of cup cakes for sure, but the Steelers still have Baltimore twice, Green Bay and @ Miami. (the kickers I see on Cinci's schedule is @ Minn and @ SD, both TOUGH road environments.) Also, Arrowhead is one tough place to play, so I'm not over looking ANYONE for a second at this point in the game. The Steelers shouldn't lose more than 2, but the potential is there to see a couple games there where you could see trouble at squeaking in the playoffs in a TOUGH AFC. With that said, Cinci was a good team and the Steelers defensive performance should not go un noticed. They just didn't get it done.

Polamalu MRI by the way. Tweaked that same knee. That's an injury that will linger the rest of the way.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:23 am

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Each team has their shares of cup cakes for sure, but the Steelers still have Baltimore twice, Green Bay and @ Miami. (the kickers I see on Cinci's schedule is @ Minn and @ SD, both TOUGH road environments.) Also, Arrowhead is one tough place to play, so I'm not over looking ANYONE for a second at this point in the game. The Steelers shouldn't lose more than 2, but the potential is there to see a couple games there where you could see trouble at squeaking in the playoffs in a TOUGH AFC. With that said, Cinci was a good team and the Steelers defensive performance should not go un noticed. They just didn't get it done.

Polamalu MRI by the way. Tweaked that same knee. That's an injury that will linger the rest of the way.


Polamalu just plays like such an animal he's always gonna be hurting shit. He can't change his style though because that's what makes him good. That's a tough loss for you guys.

On paper, the Steelers remaining schedule is slightly tougher than Cinci's. Green Bay and Miami are just dangerous teams regardless of their weaknesses and inconsistency and as you said, the Ravens are always gonna be a game because of the long-standing rivalry.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:27 am

Fact Finder wrote:A big key for Cincy now is the health of Cedric Benson. He is the #2 rusher in the league and so far I haven't seen a report on his hip injury. That could be a big loss. We have been waiting for BIG ANDRE SMITH our 1st round pick to be activated. They say he can move mountains and open huge holes on the O-line. I was looking forward to him giving us a whole new dimension with Cedric back there. Well see. Maybe he'll just need a week or 2 off and be back for the playoff run.


It might not be that bad at all, who knows. Bernard Scott looked good today. He could end up being the Bengals' Sproles.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:47 am

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Each team has their shares of cup cakes for sure, but the Steelers still have Baltimore twice, Green Bay and @ Miami. (the kickers I see on Cinci's schedule is @ Minn and @ SD, both TOUGH road environments.) Also, Arrowhead is one tough place to play, so I'm not over looking ANYONE for a second at this point in the game. The Steelers shouldn't lose more than 2, but the potential is there to see a couple games there where you could see trouble at squeaking in the playoffs in a TOUGH AFC. With that said, Cinci was a good team and the Steelers defensive performance should not go un noticed. They just didn't get it done.

Polamalu MRI by the way. Tweaked that same knee. That's an injury that will linger the rest of the way.


Polamalu just plays like such an animal he's always gonna be hurting shit. He can't change his style though because that's what makes him good. That's a tough loss for you guys.

On paper, the Steelers remaining schedule is slightly tougher than Cinci's. Green Bay and Miami are just dangerous teams regardless of their weaknesses and inconsistency and as you said, the Ravens are always gonna be a game because of the long-standing rivalry.


I agree Troy's play is so disastrous that he will tweak things here and there, as does every player. But the way Troy hurt his knee wasn't exactly the way he plays, it was mainly a freak accident that happens across the NFL, but yes, Troy puts himself in danger at time judging by the way he throws his body around, and his concussion status always showed for it.

As far as Cedric Benson, a hip is a bad injury, esp that of a runner. He took that one sweep play and he basically jogged to try to get out and looked uncomfortable. Most RB's power come from the hips so, if Cinci loses him for a significant amount of time that would be a tough loss.
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Postby Saint John » Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:51 am

This might prompt Cincy to go and sign Larry Johnson. Did anyone sign him yet? I was out of town at Penn State for 4 days and have been out of touch with the rest of the sports world. The last 72+ hour bender was centered around more important stuff like drinking, eating, Penn State-Indiana football games and bar hopping. :)
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Postby S2M » Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:58 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:Predictios for week 10:

New Orleans at St. Louis - Saints by 24
Tampa Bay at Miami - Phins by 17
Detroit at Minnesota - Minnie by 31
Jacksonville at NY Jets - Jets by 14
Buffalo at Tennessee - Buffalo by 9
Cincinnati at Pittsburgh - Stealers by 10
Denver at Washington - Denver by 13
Atlanta at Carolina - Atl by 11
Kansas City at Oakland - Oakland by 3
Seattle at Arizona - AZ by 14
Dallas at Green Bay -UPSET - GB by 10
Philadelphia at San Diego - Philly by 6
New England at Indianapolis - NE by 9
Baltimore at Cleveland - Ravens by 1




Boy, did I get this week's games wrong.... :shock: :shock:
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Postby Ehwmatt » Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:58 am

Saint John wrote:This might prompt Cincy to go and sign Larry Johnson. Did anyone sign him yet? I was out of town at Penn State for 4 days and have been out of touch with the rest of the sports world. The last 72+ hour bender was centered around more important stuff like drinking, eating, Penn State-Indiana football games and bar hopping. :)


No one signed him yet. I dunno if bringing in a miscreant like Johnson is what they need, but who knows, it could work. But Johnson and Ochocinco in the same locker room? Hmm
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:59 am

Saint John wrote:This might prompt Cincy to go and sign Larry Johnson. Did anyone sign him yet?


He's still there for the taking. I wouldn't touch that dude. Complete cancer and simply can't play!
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:00 am

Carolina is playing some great ball right now. I picked them in the upset special. Atlanta is quickly scrambling at the moment and if they continue this slide then they are in for a rude awakening come playoff time. A team that should have roared this season.
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Postby S2M » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:07 am

What does everyone think of ESPN's damn Insider feature? Every link I fucking click on wants me to pay. Pretty soon I'll have to pay to see next week's NFl schedule.... :lol:
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Postby Saint John » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:12 am

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Saint John wrote:This might prompt Cincy to go and sign Larry Johnson. Did anyone sign him yet?


He's still there for the taking. I wouldn't touch that dude. Complete cancer and simply can't play!


Sometimes you reap the benefits of the guy simply wanting to prove his last team wrong, and the guy still has some talent left. He's worth taking a "flyer" on.
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Postby S2M » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:14 am

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Saint John wrote:This might prompt Cincy to go and sign Larry Johnson. Did anyone sign him yet?


He's still there for the taking. I wouldn't touch that dude. Complete cancer and simply can't play!


Sometimes you reap the benefits of the guy simply wanting to prove his last team wrong, and the guy still has some talent left. He's worth taking a "flyer" on.


Yep, he go go fly a kite..... :lol:
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Postby Ehwmatt » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:16 am

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Saint John wrote:This might prompt Cincy to go and sign Larry Johnson. Did anyone sign him yet?


He's still there for the taking. I wouldn't touch that dude. Complete cancer and simply can't play!


Sometimes you reap the benefits of the guy simply wanting to prove his last team wrong, and the guy still has some talent left. He's worth taking a "flyer" on.


That's definitely one possible way to look at it. If he were 27 or 28, I'd definitely be willing to take the chance. If he comes in and acts like a buffoon, you cut him and cut your losses. Now that he's just about 30, it's definitely a big risk given the disruption he could create and the possibility he might not be that great anymore, either... Either way I suppose you can cut him if he's a big problem or a total waste
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:21 am

Fact Finder wrote:Cincy always takes shot at the outlaws.


Isn't that the fucking truth. Shit, half their fucking team has been arrested at one time or another since Marvin Lewis has been the head coach there. In my 30+ years of following the NFL, it's the most embarrassing franchise I've come across, and it has nothing to do with their putrid record since the glory days of Kenny Anderson, Boomer Esiason, and the immortal Elbert "Ickey" Woods and the "Ickey Shuffle" :shock:
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Postby Ehwmatt » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:23 am

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Fact Finder wrote:Cincy always takes shot at the outlaws.


Isn't that the fucking truth. Shit, half their fucking team has been arrested at one time or another since Marvin Lewis has been the head coach there. In my 30+ years of following the NFL, it's the most embarrassing franchise I've come across, and it has nothing to do with their putrid record since the glory days of Kenny Anderson, Boomer Esiason, and the immortal Elbert "Ickey" Woods and the "Ickey Shuffle" :shock:


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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:29 am

Fact Finder wrote:Don't forget the glory days of Sam Wyche.. :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJMa20xXykI



I actually remember that VERY well! Funny shit.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:32 am

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Saint John wrote:This might prompt Cincy to go and sign Larry Johnson. Did anyone sign him yet?


He's still there for the taking. I wouldn't touch that dude. Complete cancer and simply can't play!


Sometimes you reap the benefits of the guy simply wanting to prove his last team wrong, and the guy still has some talent left. He's worth taking a "flyer" on.


That's definitely one possible way to look at it. If he were 27 or 28, I'd definitely be willing to take the chance. If he comes in and acts like a buffoon, you cut him and cut your losses. Now that he's just about 30, it's definitely a big risk given the disruption he could create and the possibility he might not be that great anymore, either... Either way I suppose you can cut him if he's a big problem or a total waste


This is a typical move that Bellicheat would go after. You look at players he's picked up when they were having a tough outing and gave them a chance to the point where these players helped out for a Championship run. Guys like Corey Dillion and Randy Moss comes to mind. As far as Cinci picking him up, that's actually wouldn't be a bad decision at this point. If they do pursue him then they would certainly have an insurance policy with Johnson but no decision will be made unless Benson is a no go for quite some time. He might be picked up before hand but Cinci could be a landing spot. Being a cancer doesn't matter to a puke organization like Cincy. They set the standard for thugs at a high level throughout the years. What's one more going to hurt?
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Postby Ehwmatt » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:36 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
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Saint John wrote:This might prompt Cincy to go and sign Larry Johnson. Did anyone sign him yet?


He's still there for the taking. I wouldn't touch that dude. Complete cancer and simply can't play!


Sometimes you reap the benefits of the guy simply wanting to prove his last team wrong, and the guy still has some talent left. He's worth taking a "flyer" on.


That's definitely one possible way to look at it. If he were 27 or 28, I'd definitely be willing to take the chance. If he comes in and acts like a buffoon, you cut him and cut your losses. Now that he's just about 30, it's definitely a big risk given the disruption he could create and the possibility he might not be that great anymore, either... Either way I suppose you can cut him if he's a big problem or a total waste


This is a typical move that Bellicheat would go after. You look at players he's picked up when they were having a tough outing and gave them a chance to the point where these players helped out for a Championship run. Guys like Corey Dillion and Randy Moss comes to mind. As far as Cinci picking him up, that's actually wouldn't be a bad decision at this point. If they do pursue him then they would certainly have an insurance policy with Johnson but no decision will be made unless Benson is a no go for quite some time. He might be picked up before hand but Cinci could be a landing spot. Being a cancer doesn't matter to a puke organization like Cincy. They set the standard for thugs at a high level throughout the years. What's one more going to hurt?


lol, there's so many thugs in the league overall, what the hell does it matter? Would you rather them take the Mangini approach and draft Academic All-Americans who are barely good enough to be in the NFL at all? :lol: :lol:
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:36 am

These are ALWAYS classic!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGXHxhDM ... re=related

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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:40 am

YoungJRNY wrote:This is a typical move that Bellicheat would go after. You look at players he's picked up when they were having a tough outing and gave them a chance to the point where these players helped out for a Championship run. Guys like Corey Dillion and Randy Moss comes to mind.



Just one more example of you having zero fucking clue what you're talking about. Corey Dillon and Randy Moss have NEVER had a single arrest between them! Johnson has 5 freakin' arrests just in the past couple of years. The Patriots organization has ZERO history of picking up thugs. Guys like Moss and Dillon were considered "malcontents" (and in Moss' case, it was only in Oakland) simply because they played for shit organizations who didn't give a fuck about winning football games! Also, I have no idea what the hell you're talking about when you say "when they were having a tough outing". That makes it sound like the Patriots went out and grabbed these guys from someone's scrap heap. Neither of these guys was signed during the season. Dillon was signed in the off-season and Moss was traded for...not signed!
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Postby Ehwmatt » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:41 am

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YoungJRNY wrote:This is a typical move that Bellicheat would go after. You look at players he's picked up when they were having a tough outing and gave them a chance to the point where these players helped out for a Championship run. Guys like Corey Dillion and Randy Moss comes to mind.



Just one more example of you having zero fucking clue what you're talking about. Corey Dillon and Randy Moss have NEVER had a single arrest between them! Johnson has 5 freakin' arrests just in the past couple of years. The Patriots organization has ZERO history of picking up thugs. Guys like Moss and Dillon were considered "malcontents" (and in Moss' case, it was only in Oakland) simply because they played for shit organizations who didn't give a fuck about winning football games! Also, I have no idea what the hell you're talking about when you say "when they were having a tough outing". That makes it sound like the Patriots went out and grabbed these guys from someone's scrap heap. Neither of these guys was signed during the season. Dillon was signed in the off-season and Moss was traded for...not signed!


I remember Dillon being traded for a second-rounder? Wasn't he?
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:45 am

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YoungJRNY wrote:This is a typical move that Bellicheat would go after. You look at players he's picked up when they were having a tough outing and gave them a chance to the point where these players helped out for a Championship run. Guys like Corey Dillion and Randy Moss comes to mind.



Just one more example of you having zero fucking clue what you're talking about. Corey Dillon and Randy Moss have NEVER had a single arrest between them! Johnson has 5 freakin' arrests just in the past couple of years. The Patriots organization has ZERO history of picking up thugs. Guys like Moss and Dillon were considered "malcontents" (and in Moss' case, it was only in Oakland) simply because they played for shit organizations who didn't give a fuck about winning football games! Also, I have no idea what the hell you're talking about when you say "when they were having a tough outing". That makes it sound like the Patriots went out and grabbed these guys from someone's scrap heap. Neither of these guys was signed during the season. Dillon was signed in the off-season and Moss was traded for...not signed!


Dude where was it said that the Pats pick up thugs? I'm just saying that with a player out there of Johnson's caliber looking for a second chance, Belichick pursued some guys that panned out for them. That's all that I intended the post to be, not the criminal side of it. I just said that with Johnson's career on the rocks, he needs a coach like Belichick to give him a shot, and he can certainly help out any team that needs a back at this point. I was just making a comparison that the dude could have a re-emergence in the league when his stock level is low for the time being.
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Postby Rick » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:50 am

Fact Finder wrote:
CINCINNATI -- Running back Corey Dillon got his wish Monday when the Cincinnati Bengals traded him to the New England Patriots for a second-round draft pick.



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Postby Saint John » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:51 am

Enigma869 wrote:Just one more example of you having zero fucking clue what you're talking about. Dillon was signed in the off-season


This is priceless. :lol:
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Postby Saint John » Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:58 am

JFB is having a rough day in the accuracy department. :lol:
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:03 am

Saint John wrote:JFB is having a rough day in the accuracy department. :lol:

Get ready, Dan. He'll come back with some kind of horseshit and prove to be the Braniac he is and make you look puny in his efforts. Because didn't you know? John From Boston's opinion is the ONLY opinion! (Exclamation point.) :lol:
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:06 am

Aw man FactFinder, you're done now. NOW you have to answer to the Brainac that is John from Boston. His response will be so brutal that it will be heard as one of the biggest beatdowns across the whole community of message boards. I can't wait to see how he talks and spews his way out of this one. But, I'm sure it'll be a damn good one since his opinion is the only one that matters in the world of Enigma869. What a tool.
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